04 Jul 2020 06:40:15
OTT:

1st Round Pick 2020 (#3)

1st Round Pick 2020 (Lowest)

2nd Round Pick 2020 (3rd Highest)

Anthony Duclair


TBD:

1st Round Pick 2020 (#1)


Duclair can be top6 or top9 player, all star this year + two first round picks and second is very interesting deal for franchise who is not more needed in Laf than OTT


With #5 draft Rossi

Lafréniere - White - Batherson

Tkachuk - Rossi - C. Brown

Balcers - Tierney - Formenton

Paul - Hawryluk - Abramov


In two years this will be playoff team.

04 Jul 2020 16:46:51
This is better, but idk, I just don’t see the #1 team trading Laf unless they’re getting a big overpayment back.

04 Jul 2020 18:29:58
Vertuis, have you even seen this draft class? Anyone in the top 15 would easily be top 10 in any other draft class with exception to 2022 and 2023 classes. This here is an overpayment but more doable than 3 and 5. Byfield and Stutzle may not be where Lafreniere is now but they do have very similar ceilings. Some even say Byfield has a bigger ceiling potential.

04 Jul 2020 18:35:45
I think for a team to give up lafrenier, you need to add tkachuk or chabot instead of duclair. I personally think the sens are better off not trading for him.

As good as he is, it's not worth giving up so much.

04 Jul 2020 20:12:14
I have seen it Rambo, clearly you haven’t. It doesn’t matter how good 2 and on is when you have someone like Laf available. As much as I like Byfield, Stutzle, Rossi, Raymond etc. they aren’t Laf. Laf is the type of player that doesn’t get moved unless the package coming back is overwhelming.

05 Jul 2020 04:44:57
Theres lots of articles on a whole bunch of websites and blogs discussing valuation of picks. The number three pick plus the number five pick has greater value in any given draft year than the number one pick alone. I assume that includes this year. Especially when the draft class is as strong as this one is said to be.

So there is incentive for someone to trade down to the third and fifth picks. There would be no need for Ottawa to add anything.

05 Jul 2020 17:41:41
Laf is considered a generational talent. Take a look at previous drafts involving a generational or close to generational talent. Then look at what was picked at 3 and 5. You are never better off making that trade to move down.

07 Jul 2020 11:43:49
Yeah. It depends on who is doing the picking. If you look at picks 3-8, in every single case there are two players that are worth more than the first overall. It all depends on who is doing the picking and who they pick. Just saying the 3 and 5 didn't outperform the 1st when Matthews and McDavid were picked is meaningless. Because the draft could easily have gone a lot different (marner at 3rd instead of Strome in the year McDavid was picked for example, or Tkachuk at 5th the year Matthews was picked) .

There are a lot of studies on this subject. And they all say the same thing. The 3 and 5 are worth more in any given year than the number 1 is. Even when there is a generational talent involved.

12 Jul 2020 19:20:56
Borje not every 1st overall is generational players dude. Lafreniere is definitely franchise material as are Byfield and Stutzle. But being generational is debatable. The top 2 or 3 guys from each of the 2022 and 2023 drafts are already being considered above Lafreniere. Not a chance he's worth more than this package and definitely not worth giving both 3 and 5 overall let alone replacing duclair with Chabot or Tkachuk in this deal. You guys are insane.

That's like saying if Colorado wants Jack Eichel then they got to do 2 for 1 deal and give both MacKinnon and either Rantanen or Byram or Makar as well. Not going to happen ever!