31 Aug 2021 13:58:41
Islanders Trade
Bailey
Dobson
6th Round Pick 2022

Leafs Trade
Rielly
Kerfoot
Engvall
Holl


Thoughts ?

31 Aug 2021 14:29:34
What no Dermott?

31 Aug 2021 14:57:02
MoxNix
So please tell me why either team would say no?
Bailey was not protected in Expansion so he wasn't looked at as a key player on The Islanders.
Rielly is probably signing elsewhere but there is still this season for The Islanders and they are not rebuilding.
Leafs need a LWinger and to look at there young Defencemen.
Leafs also need Cap Space.

31 Aug 2021 15:53:46
To start with, the Islanders organization sees Dobson as a cornerstone piece. Having seen him from ice level at the Memorial Cup a few years ago, I can appreciate why. He's big, smart, and skates like the wind.

For that reason alone, the Islanders don't touch this.

31 Aug 2021 16:06:59
Bailey has a good contract, 5M for 3 more seasons is perfect for a veteran 50+ point guy. Hard to say but I’d guess he has more value than one season of Reilly? Maybe close. Regardless there’s nothing there that is equivalent to Dobson.

31 Aug 2021 16:49:40
Chickenfoot that's about what I thought though I wasn't sure about Dobson. I haven't seen him play and don't know much about him other than what's on hockeydb and other sites. He has good size, is only 21 and still on an entry level contract.

Agree with Ebsolutely on Bailey. He's a good winger on a good contract with 3 years left. Reilly makes the same money now but will be a UFA looking for a big raise next year. I'd keep Bailey.

Holl is ok. Just ok, nothing special. He plays 2nd pair in Toronto but would be 3rd pair on many other teams. I'd keep Dobson.

Kerfoot and Engvall as has been said repeatedly nobody wants them. Adding them makes the deal worse not better.

31 Aug 2021 17:11:15
Agreed on Bailey, I'd rather have 2 really good 5M guys than one 10M guy for depth reasons alone.

I think Bailey is a great value, but Dobson looks like the real deal. I'm 6-1 and this kid made me feel short.

31 Aug 2021 18:30:18
Chickenfoot
So Dobson is now the second coming of who Bobby Orr?
Bailey wasn't even protected in expansion and you want to believe The Islanders aren't looking to unload him?
Kerfoot does have value at 3.5m Cap hit, Rielly would be there best Defenceman this year.
We can agree to disagree but if I said Pulock or Mayfield besides Dobson you would still argue they are better than Rielly when they aren't.

31 Aug 2021 19:41:03
There's only one Bobby Orr. I was really impressed with all areas of Dobson's game. It was impressive to my eyes. (A member of my family dates one of the players and I can tell you he is highly regarded in the organization. )

I really like Rielly as a player. He had a tough year last year, but this is a contract year, and I expect he'll be ready to have a big year.

The challenge with Rielly is that he's due for a big raise, and has no term left on his deal. The leafs will rightfully expect a good haul.

31 Aug 2021 20:28:53
Pinball

The Islanders aren't looking to unload either of those players.

Toronto is looking to unload Reilly because he's going to be too expensive to fit into Toronto's salary structure in a year.

Kerfoot and Engvall nobody wants, not the Isles, not Toronto, not any team! Toronto's been trying to unload them (and Dermott too) for some time now. If any other team did want them, they'd be long gone already! The reality is they don't add any value to a deal. Quite the opposite it's going to cost something to get anyone to take them.

31 Aug 2021 23:50:28
Bailey has no value but Kerfoot does? Seattle had a tough choice between Eberle or Bailey, doesn’t mean because he wasn’t taken he has no value. Plus Lamoriello is the only GM out there that would protect Martin over them.

01 Sep 2021 04:16:42
Who wants any of the Leafs trash. Give it up man.

05 Sep 2021 12:01:28
Not Being protected in the expansion draft has nothing to do with whether the team wants you or not there was only a limited number of spaces.

07 Sep 2021 09:58:56
@Chickenfoot I like Reilly too. I wouldn't say he had tough year when you consider who he was paired with. Reilly is only the 2nd partner who's been able to make Brodie look good.