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11 Jan 2022 22:15:36
Arizona: Jakob Chychrun

Detroit: 2022 1st (Top 3 Protected), Filip Zadina, Joe Veleno, 2023 3rd

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12 Jan 2022 04:27:06
The first definitely gets Arizona's attention and Zadina is an ok add but they'll probably want something better than Veleno and a 3rd.

12 Jan 2022 13:59:54
Honestly I think they do it. That 1st prolly conveys to 10-16th. Two solid prospects as well.

12 Jan 2022 14:03:07
Definitely a better offer than the Calgary one below.

12 Jan 2022 14:15:34
This is a rare thing on this site: a fair offer without the "fan bias discount". This proposal is VERY realistic. 👍.

12 Jan 2022 17:22:48
@Hockey Dad I don't think so

Detroit's first will be higher but Valimaki and Zary are better than Zadina and Veleno. Zadorov isn't a good fit with the Flames and is a bit overpaid but he's still worth a 3rd.

Replace Veleno, the third or both with something better and it's a good offer.

12 Jan 2022 17:38:21
Sure, Detroit offers Better Draft Pick Position, but if Valimaki and Zary end up being better players than Zadina and Veleno, which there's a good chance that happens, than I would say no, it isn't a better offer.

Calgary is at least offering 2 replacement LD's. Arizona may have sufficient LD depth, but I think they would be rushing the development of their young LD's. They could either flip Zadorov or Trade Gostisbehere for even more Picks and Prospects and/ or They could tryout Zadorov and if he's a good fit, they sign him for a few years and if not, they let him walk to get the Cap Space back.

12 Jan 2022 20:47:35
Detroit’s pick will be better and there two prospects/ young players are better IMO. Also 3rd is better than Zadorov.

12 Jan 2022 23:30:34
After looking at Velano's stats again he's better than I thought he was the first time I looked him up.

The first time I didn't think he was good enough to make the NHL with only one good year in the Q. Then I realized what I thought was the 2 years prior to that was actually 1 year on 2 different teams.

So it's a lot closer than I thought the Detroit offer might even be a little better. It'd probably come down to if Arizona would prefer getting defensemen or forwards in return.

13 Jan 2022 03:14:02
@Moxnix
Zadina > Zary
Veleno > Valimaki
Not sure what your thinking.

13 Jan 2022 05:27:55
He will be a blue in next couple weeks e5.

13 Jan 2022 13:57:37
blues would offer the following.

Scandella (cap) Oskar Sundqvuist, 1st 2022, scott perunovich.

15 Jan 2022 03:06:21
HOCKEY DAD - its not just you. He posts incessantly and some of it is just plain baffling. Your assessment is bang on.

15 Jan 2022 18:30:15
I bet Zary scores more than 4 Goals and 10 Points in 36games if he gets 15mins/ gm at 22. Zary's also a Centre which is more valuable.

Veleno's stats are even worse with only 3 Goals and 4 points in 22 Games. I would say both these guys need more time in the AHL to develop their game and confidence, so they can hopefully become the 1st Round caliber players they're supposed to be instead of just scoring 0.18-0.38PPG, which is what I would expect out of a 2nd/ 3rd Rounder.

Zary will be > than Zadina and Valimaki is already > than Veleno. Valimaki has more PPG than Veleno and he's a D-Man for heaven's sake.







 

 

 
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