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23 Jul 2022 21:40:04
Montreal trades:
Josh Anderson @5.5M UFA 2027

Calgary trades:
Sean Monahan @6.375M UFA 2023
Matthew Philips @750k RFA 2022 or Jack Beck @750k RFA 2022
2023 1st round pick

Montreal eats the last year of Monahan's contract and receives a 2023 first round pick + their choice of 2 prospects in the mold of Habs coach Martin St Louis.

Calgary gets a big power forward with speed who brings even more grit, physicality and toughness to the top 6 than was lost with the departure of Tkachuk. He'll score some goals too maybe a lot of them if he's on a line with Huberdeau and Lindholm.

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23 Jul 2022 22:38:56
Easy and quick no from MTL. They’re getting calls on Anderson, but they’re not trying to trade him. I can’t imagine why they would trade him, but it they do, it’ll be for an offer they can’t refuse, and this ain’t it.

I had to google Beck & Phillips…neither is much of an incentive to take on Monaghan’s contract. A 1st would be part of ANY offer MTL is receiving for Anderson, who is on a great value deal. This is a homer deal for CGY, and doesn’t come close for Anderson let alone the cost of dumping Monahan.

I’d try ARI for dumping Monahan, but why not keep him and let him ride out his final year on LTIR?

24 Jul 2022 00:27:09
Not interested. J. Anderson: 19G+13A=32PTS+153Hits in 69GP/ 17:14ATOI)

Cheaper + More Physical Options that I've extrapolated their stats to match Anderson's 69GP/ 17:14ATOI:

Austin Watson (15G+9A=24PTS + 315 Hits) @1.5/ UFA23
Nathan Bastian (17G+8A=25PTS + 292 Hits) @825k/ RFA23
Alex Chiasson (20G+14A=34PTS + 104 Hits) @750k/ Free Agent
Garnet Hathaway (16.5G+14A=30.5PTS + 294 Hits) @1.5/ UFA23
Mark Kastelic (16G+16A=32PTS + 414 Hits) @821.7/ RFA23

If we're going to make a Trade and give up Assets, go after Alex Tuch (15.5G+33.5A=49PTS + 41 Hits) @4.75/ UFA26

Huberdeau replace Tkachuk's Physicality fine and anybody will be more Physical than Gaudreau, so better to go after Talent than Size & Grit for another Top-6 Forward IMO.

Bastian & Kastelic could be Future Josh Anderson's or even better, so I'd be trying to acquire them to play Bottom-6 Roles now and go from there, otherwise stick with Duehr & Klapka or convert Michael Stone to a RW lol, cause Anderson is Overrated!

24 Jul 2022 03:04:15
@Trevor

Anderson is better than any of those options except maybe Alex Tuch but Buffalo won't trade him. Montreal would trade Anderson if they get the right offer. I'm assuming they'd want a first round pick (preferably in 2023) and a prospect.

Huberdeau has some size but isn't very physical.

@Chickenfoot

If they can keep Monahan on LTIR all year of course that works. I've mentioned that before. Monahan only has 1 year left on his contract and only makes 875K more than Anderson.

If you don't think my proposal is enough then what would be enough?

You're not getting Pelletier, Coronato or Wolf. Probably not Kerins either. Poirier or Kuznetsov maybe. Just about any other prospect should be available.

24 Jul 2022 04:27:58
Not interested in trading Anderson, but if a team forces their hand with a Godfather deal, then that’s to be determined. Monahan, Pelletier, or the others are of zero interest except CGY diehards.

IF Anderson were to be traded I can’t think of a reasonable return from CGY that makes any sense for either team. If someone wants a big boy who skates like the wind, who is on a good value deal, they’ll pay though.

? Homer Deals.

24 Jul 2022 04:50:44
My point was A) Josh Anderson isn't that great B) Let's try to find the next "Josh Anderson" C) We can find much better Players for that kind of $$$ and for less of an Acquisition Cost D) Let the Bottom-6 Guys be the Physical Aggressor's and Let the Top-6 focus on Speed & Skill

I know you're not a fan of Kessel, nor was @6.8-8mil, but hypothetically speaking, if we were to sign him for $2.5-3mil, he would contribute substantially more than Josh Anderson at 0 Acquisition Cost

Kessel typically takes 300-400 Shots/ Season, Scoring on 9-12% of them = 27-36 Goals. He wasn't able to do that in ARI obviously, but in CGY he probably will; look at what he did in Pittsburgh. He can also Pass and be a Playmaker as well. To me he's low risk, because if he does well you can use or Trade him for Assets and if not, you can Trade or Waive him and we have a Ton of guys to replace him. So let's keep Picks & Prospects and Monahan will be on LTIR, so isn't hurting us.

24 Jul 2022 05:03:56
If you think Pelletier would be of no interest to Montreal you don't know a thing about him.

24 Jul 2022 18:13:15
If you read my comment I stated I can’t think of a reasonable return for Anderson that would be acceptable to either team.

Some teams have more obvious fits for trades. Others don’t. I’d rather keep Anderson. I like a lot about his game, he’s on a great value deal, and I really like what he brings to the Habs.

I’ve seen Pelletier play so I’m familiar with the player. If he’s as good as you think he is you shouldn’t let him go. I see an undersized player who at 21 hasn’t had a cup of coffee in the NHL yet. I don’t think his game translates from junior the NHL. Maybe the kid will surprise me and have a long and productive career. Just because I don’t see the same potential in him doesn’t mean he won’t be great for CGY. All I can offer is my opinion, and my opinion is I’d rather have Anderson.

24 Jul 2022 19:50:38
Who's giving Pelletier away I clearly said you wouldn't get Pelletier.

25 Jul 2022 00:16:28
You are unintentionally hilarious Mox…. ?…. You brought up Pelletier…nowhere do I suggest him, except to say I don’t see him as you do, and I was trying to be nice about it. (Your exact quote was “You’re not getting Pelletier, etc”) . KEEP HIM?He’s ALL YOURS?

You initially also suggested Monahan, and when I explained he has no trade value without sweeteners, and it’s better if he stays on LTIR. Then you say, “if they can keep him on LTIR of course that works. I’ve said that before, etc. ”. You’re hilarious man. You can never admit fault. Thanks for the laughs as I wait through this excruciating layover?.

25 Jul 2022 02:06:50
I mentioned the players you wouldn't get because there's no way you're getting any of them and a first.

Monahan is there for cap reasons, one year of similar cap out for the cap coming in (875K difference) . Montreal could use him too. Not only would he help insulate Dach but if he rebounds he'll be better than Dvorak and if he doesn't that'll help with the tank.

I specifically suggested Phillips because he's a center who puts up a lot of points in the AHL and because he's a player that could thrive under Martin St Louis.

You say I'm hilarious yet you saying Montreal has no interest in Pelletier or any of the others is the funniest thing in this thread. Montreal (most teams in fact) most definitely would be interested in Pelletier, Coronato, Wolf, Kuznetsov, Poirier and Kerins. Montreal would be particularly interested in French Quebecois players Pelletier and Poirier because they're both French and skillful.

25 Jul 2022 10:44:40
Dance Mox dance. Hilarious! Monahan can’t help insulate anyone because he has serious health issues that make him more of an LTIR candidate than anything. For reasons stated I have zero interest in him, and just because a player is French it doesn’t mean MTL wants or needs him. You’re a Homer, and you overvalue your team’s prospects. If they’re so great keep them, and if Monahan can rejoin your lineup, he’ll be able to insulate your lineup?. There is certainly zero appeal for MTL to entertain this for Anderson when so many teams are allegedly interested in a player who isn’t even on the market. Stay down champ…. this ain’t your night ?.

25 Jul 2022 16:22:05
@Chickenfoot, what's your definition of a Homer, just so I'm clear on the term.

25 Jul 2022 20:52:24
I’ve heard rumours that the ask is fairly big for Anderson but I wouldn’t touch him at full salary. What should he be at 3.5M?

26 Jul 2022 00:19:08
Anderson around $4mil/ yr would be better considering the amount he gets injured. Not quite as Good as Toffoli overall, but he is More Physical and a Better Scorer at Even Strength, just not as good Defensively or as a Sniper on the PP.

26 Jul 2022 01:05:58
28 and only two seasons above 70 games, only one above a 40 point pace. Career average of 36 points over a full season. I don’t know enough about him but he can score and has potential for more offense but at best best case scenario he finally hits 50 points and is almost worth his 5.5M cap. Worst case scenario he has another 30 point season and he’s a really expensive 3rd liner. Retain 2M on him and his value is high otherwise better ways to spend your money.







 

 

 
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