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07 Aug 2022 13:17:33
Arizona trades:
Jacob Chychrun

Ottawa trades:
Jake Sanderson
Shane Pinto
2023 1st


Is it enough for Chychrun or does Ottawa need to add?

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07 Aug 2022 14:37:56
Hell no from Ottawa. Sanderson is untouchable.

07 Aug 2022 15:00:45
I thimk that might be a little much.

07 Aug 2022 15:09:41
Ottawa gives up way too much as Sanderson should surpass Chychrun in skill and talent in a couple of years. But then adding Pinto and a 1st is just a ridiculous add that Chychrun isn't worth.

07 Aug 2022 18:39:21
Chychrun is a nice piece, but this doesn’t seem like a sincere offer for OTT. This would be a HUGE overpayment for OTT, and i can’t imagine why they’d consider it.

07 Aug 2022 18:47:58
Take out Sanderson and add Docker. Pinto is a really good NHL ready prospect.

07 Aug 2022 20:01:34
ARI wants a Young Player + a High-End Prospect + 1st Round Pick =

Shane Pinto, Mathieu Joseph, Alex Formenton or Erik Brannstrom +
Tyler Boucher, Lassi Thomson, Jacob Bernard-Docker or Ridly Greig +
2023-1st Round Pick-OTT

@MoxNix's offer is what they want, but I agree OTT won't include Jake Sanderson, but they'll have to give to get, as Chychrun (who I think is overrated and has health issues) is in High Demand and ARI isn't in a situation where they have to move him, so they'll simply wait until they get what they want.

08 Aug 2022 05:03:21
Like I said, you 2 are delusional beyond belief. And clearly I'm NOT the only one who notices that.

Young player is Alex Formenton
High end prospect is Docker or Thompson
2024 1st is the 1st
Ottawa also needs cap room to make this happen so a contract move of Zaitsev to fit Chychrun is pretty much mandatory, and Arizona has the space to facilitate that kind of move for a sweetener like Sokolov.

And without Crouse involved that's still an overpayment by Ottawa.

Arizona will NOT get their asking price for him and will likely get much less like in every trade for a guy with injury history and 1 year left till RFA status who has NO intention of resigning with that team. So get over yourselves.

08 Aug 2022 05:13:33
YOU are the one who is delusional if you think Alex Formenton and Docker or Thomson plus a first is going to cut it for Chychrun.

And you expect them to take on a cap dump too? That costs extra.

And then add Crouse too? ROTFLMFAO.

08 Aug 2022 14:56:05
Obviously a cap dump costs extra why do you think Sokolov is in there as a sweetener. Sweeteners aren't meant to be the major top end players prospects or picks, they are meant to be solid mid level prospects or 2nd/ 3rd round picks, enough to make it happen. The only cases where it takes more than that is when the cap dump in question is no longer a viable option in a teams top 4 or top 6 and costs a cap hit of 6 million or higher which in Zaitsevs case neither point is true. He can still put up top 4 minutes when needed and is under 5 million cap hit. Yeah he's a cap dump that's not in question but he's not that bad of a cap dump like you let on.

It 100% meets their requirements no matter what you say.

Formenton is a roster player with Top 6 potential and is still under 25 years old. On Arizona he will easily be a top 3 forward, top 6 at worst the second he gets there.

Docker and Thompson ARE high end prospects no matter what you think. High end does NOT meat number 1 prospect and never did. Ottawa wanted a high end prospect for Stone, did Vegas give us Cody Glass or Peyton Krebs? No! They gave us Erik Branstrom who was like Docker and Thompson considered by hockey personnel as a high end prospect. But he was NOT their TOP prospect by any stretch of the imagination. They fact they say high end prospect and NOT top prospects means any top 10 to top 5 prospect on the team with value will do just fine if they are interested. And not only is Arizona interested in both guys but both guys also fit the criteria perfectly whether you agree or not.

And a 2024 1st unprotected is more than enough to fit the 1st they want seeing how a 2025 1st was litteraly just traded elsewhere, and not just any elsewhere, I believe it was to your Calgary Flames.

As for Crouse, yeah I added him, because like I said before, Chychrun has injury history, and is on record that he don't want to stay in Arizona anymore. Which both take away from his value. And Ottawa is currently a bottom 10 team. Yeah they made some great additions in the off-season so far and adding Chychrun would be another one, however a bounce back year in the first year may not be a total guarantee as sometimes players take a couple years to get used to the new teams, look at Matt Duchene for instance. And other times they never really do, Erik Karlsson, and Kyle Turris are prime examples, he'll Mark Giordano too hasn't been the same since Calgary days nor had Phaneuf. So yeah, that 2024 1st unprotected still carries crazy value compared to a team like Calgary or Colorado or Tampa who were all among the bottom 20 picks due to strong years. Picks values are based on projection to a point yes but more so they are based on the most recent success or lack there of in which case Ottawa has been a bottom 10 team since 2018 making their picks more valuable at this point in time.







 

 

 
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