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05 Dec 2022 22:15:54
Toronto Trades
WNylander
Kerfoot
Holl
Niemela (SHL)
1st Round Pick 2024

Vancouver Trades
Horvat
Boeser
LSchenn


Thoughts ?

Agree6 Disagree18

06 Dec 2022 01:07:21
I think the Canucks would have to add their 2023 1st.

06 Dec 2022 02:08:50
OMG that’s bad…I’d love to read your file Pinball to get a better understanding of what you’re dealing with. This is probably the most delusional post you’ve ever posted. Wow!

06 Dec 2022 13:27:18
Chickenfoot
Vancouver is looking to shake things up and Toronto is looking to win it all this year.
Horvat, LSchenn, Kerfoot and Holl are all UFAs after this season, so with guarantee players in this transaction after this season is Boeser for WNylander, Niemala and a 1st Rounder.
Vancouver wins the trade after this season by far, so because this is a trade for this season and next my proposal I believe is very fair.
That's my explanation.

06 Dec 2022 15:25:43
Nylander >> Boeser
Kerfoot, Niemela, 1st = Horvat (this is around the price year after year for top UFA’s. It might get beaten by another team but it’s in the ball park)
Holl.

06 Dec 2022 15:55:58
Your first sentence is 100% correct: VCR needs to rebuild/ reshuffle, and your leafs are in "go for it" mode.

Everything after that is written from a leaf needs/ wants perspective, and I fully appreciate that you're too far gone to even consider something other than the leaf point of view.

Your trade value for Horvat & Boeser is HORRIBLY undervalued, and that yard sale you're offering is way OVER-valued. This is typical of all your proposals, and the comments reflect that. You may not see it, but obviously most here do.

On the topic of Niemela, who is a common inclusion of leaf fans, because leaf TV (Sportsnet & TSN) have talked him up. They talk EVERY leaf prospect or player up, but considering they share a 90% ownership stake in MLSE, maybe you should take their daily leaf hype with a grain of salt.

Niemela is a 20 year-old, undersized D, who will likely never play in the NHL. If he does it will be because he brings something to overcome his "generously listed" 160-pound frame. He doesn't have unbelievable stats in his playing history, and as a 3rd round pick, he has roughly a 54% chance of making the NHL. As an undersized player his chances are even less unless he shows something more than he has so far.

There are prospects, and there are top-end prospects. Niemela might be coveted amongst the leaf fan base, but that's more by default since your team tends to trade most of your picks to fix roster construction flaws.

In short, Niemela is NOT an important piece in any trade proposal, and if both Boeser & Horvat are traded, it will be for better packages than this.

07 Dec 2022 00:54:02
Chickenfoot vs the world. Boeser has very little value. As Reindrag will tell you ( Canucks fan ) he is extremely slow and is a black hole outside of the ozone. ( Nylander is elite in 2 of the 3 zones ) . Horvat is a UFA and Schenn who has been playing really well should get a 2nd.

I wouldn’t move Nylander for that straight up because of what I mentioned with Boeser I just don’t think he is worth his cap hit to the leafs. Also the Canucks should target younger pieces then Nylander. Outside of the Pettersson connection he isn’t a great fit age wise imo.

07 Dec 2022 10:04:46
“Chickenfoot vs the world”?

Man…this is a fan site where people exchange sports opinions. ? Sounds like you might need a little break and perhaps a good long walk outside. You are hilarious without trying to be?.

07 Dec 2022 12:54:58
Gonna guess Vancouver is likely on the list of 10 teams Holl wouldn't like to be traded to so that stops this deal in its tracks.

07 Dec 2022 13:59:58
@ChickenFoot it’s VB, he likes to get hostile for some reason.

07 Dec 2022 17:56:16
I just mean you’re trying to argue against a Canucks fan saying they need to add a 1st to push your tin foil narrative that every leafs Player has low value. If anyone is angry it is you who reply negatively to every single one of Pinballs posts when you could simply just ignore them and move on.

07 Dec 2022 18:37:30
CASUAL - absolutely hilarious eh?

A fan comment forum is a lot like leaving your door open all night living on Main Street: you never know who is going to walk in, or what they may be dealing with.

: )

BTW, your Flames look like they're rounding things into shape nicely, and they are undisputably Canada's best shot at bringing the Cup home when Markstrom gets his game back. Good luck the rest of the way man.

08 Dec 2022 01:53:22
VB…narrative? You’re in too deep pal, it’s hockey fans talking hockey. I’m not sure what kind of mindset you deal with but this is hockey talk…narrative is more of something you see on political shows.

As far as Pinball goes, I disagree with almost every post he’s ever written. If you read above you’ll see you’re wrong about that too. I give kudos where I think it’s due. You suggest “I could have simply moved on rather than replying negatively to his posts”. Well, I could say the same about you, but it just doesn’t bother me what you say. It’s words on a page. I’d have to respect your opinion to be offended by you.

By the way, when you said you watched the prospect 5x more than anyone else on this page, I laughed out loud. I could explain why but it would be lost on you. You are hilarious without trying. You do you…. I guess…and I’m flattered you find me so interesting ?.

09 Dec 2022 00:01:31
Well considering I live in Saint John and actually been on the ice with Kuznetzkov for pick up I can guarantee that no one has as I watched quite abit of games for the sea dogs last year as they were hosting the mem cup, my parents have season tickets and I have a few buddys who played on the team.

If someone else on this site watched him in NCAA, Russia or AHL I apologize.

Also I replyed to attempt change a very narrowed mindset and make the world a better place clearly it expands beyond hockey.

09 Dec 2022 23:40:50
“Making the world a better place? ” On a fan page like this? Wow. Be well man?.

10 Dec 2022 04:00:07
Yes you’re welcome for that enlightenment.

10 Dec 2022 14:03:33
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, but I’ve lost interest. Good luck to you?.







 

 

 
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