30 Mar 2023 11:22:57
to Montreal Canadiens :
C/LW - Pierre-Luc Dubois (RFA)
D - Logan Stanley (RFA)
to Winnipeg Jets :
FLA's 1st Rd Selection in 2023
RW - Josh Anderson (5.50 @ 4 UFA)
D - Lane Hutson (unsigned)
D - Justin Barron (ELC)
P Dubois - N Suzuki - C Caufield
J Slafkovsky - K Dach - B Gallagher
S Farrell - C Dvorak - M Hoffman
H Pinard - J Evans - J Armia / D Gurianov
M Matheson - D Savard
K Guhle - J Edmundson
L Stanley - A Xhekaj
K Connor - M Scheifele - B Wheeler
N Ehlers - C Perfetti - J Anderson
M Appleton - C Lucius - N Niederreiter
M Barron - A Lowry - K Stenlund
J Morrissey - N Pionk
N Schmidt - J Barron
B Dillon - D Demelo
30 Mar 2023 13:18:03
I don't see there even being a slight chance Winnipeg does that.
The 1st round pick is good and would be required in any deal.
Anderson isn't waiving for Winnipeg and is behind Connor, Ehlers, Wheeler, Perfetti, Niederreiter and Namestnikov on the wings in Winnipeg and has an awful contract for a bottom sixer and isn't good enough defensively for that role.
Hutson is okay, but is a tiny LHD that the Jets don't need at all and with his size is a long shot to be a full time NHL regular. Montreal probably doesn't want to trade him anyways.
Barron is a good piece.
I appreciate that you're trying to give Winnipeg value, but most of it is in a position or positions that do nothing for the Jets and Anderson takes away a fairly large chunk of that value.
I'm not sure Montreal is the best place to send Dubois.
30 Mar 2023 15:28:15
Jets don't need to trade PLD for a quantity of pieces. They would rather get 1 quality player or PLD. Also adding Stanley makes this trade too one sided for the Habs.
30 Mar 2023 18:20:31
Instead of giving all that up, just wait till next off season and sign him without giving up anything.
30 Mar 2023 18:26:56
PLD is a really good player , but really what GM would give all that for someone they know is interested in coming there. Maybe, as someone said in the post below he gets traded and signs long term somewhere else. That's fine. But what GM is gonna try for him when it's not even a secret that he desires to be a Montreal Canadien. Really this is all up to PLD, and Hughes/ Gorton.
31 Mar 2023 02:14:15
This is a ridiculous trade proposal.
31 Mar 2023 14:12:58
@sosa that’s exactly how you acquire a player- “we’re not willing to give up anything for you and you mean nothing to us”. If a team trades For PLD and show interest at meeting his and his family’s needs, he will sign with them b4 the offseason.
31 Mar 2023 15:53:51
Ya I see your point HockeyDad. However, I'd rather keep the package offered than have PLD. if he wants next off-season to join those players and be part of the Montreal Canadiens, well, let the negotiations begin.
If it were me, as a GM I'd call the shots on this one. Although he is a really good player, he's not a franchise player.
Although small, Lane Hutson is not someone I want to give up in this new NHL where the little guys can thrive and use there skill.
31 Mar 2023 16:36:15
Way too much for PLD. He's a good center that plays as a 70pt player and MAYBE has PPG potential, but he's not a bonafide top line center.
They're trading a top 15 pick in a veery deep draft, giving up Barron who has solid top 4 potential and Hutson who's one of the best D prospects in the league.
No way the habs trade Hutson. That guy has superstar potential and his advanced stats are monstruous. Will it translate to the nhl? Maybe, but his ceiling is sky high
This is way too much
01 Apr 2023 17:59:32
Dubois is a very good C. Full stop.
He is not a “great” center. He is a good 2C for a contender, which MTL is not, and won’t be for a few years.
The whole league knows where the player wants to play, because his agent deliberately announced it publicly.
WPG has a good asset, but in terms of the trade market, it is a distressed asset. The return they receive will reflect that.
MTL may trade for him this summer, but WPG will not receive full market value for a guy who MTL can sign as a UFA after next season.
It’s always possible that WPG will trade him to another market after re-signing him. A team needing a 2C for a Cup run may trade for him, but any such offer will reflect the fact that they’re unlikely to re-sign Dubois before he hits unrestricted free agency and can call his shot.
WPG has great fans and they deserve some good news. I hope they get a fair return, but they won’t get full value for Dubois.
It’s an open secret that WPG has a broken room. You simply can’t bring back Scheifele, Dubois & Wheeler. It’s time to start again and:
- trade Scheifele and Dubois before the draft and be done with both of them. (Scheifele is a talent, but he has a well-deserved reputation for being a cancer. He should never where a letter for an NHL team again. )
- buy out the final year of Wheeler for 2.75M x 2 years.
- get some more picks in this pivotal draft. (They only have 5)
- graduate some more prospects from the system
- bring optimism back and restore a functional dressing room so that young players are coming into a stable and healthy environment.
Chevy is a smart guy, and he will do the right things. He was patient this year, but will be prudent this coming offseason, especially if they miss the playoffs. Stripping the C was worth a shot, but it’s obvious the core 3 have to go.