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19 Jun 2024 19:07:56
Congratulations to both CGY & LA fans.

- CGY: great haul for Markstrom.

- LAK: congrats on dumping PLD and possibly finding a goalie. Regardless if Kuemper works out, you're MUCH better off without PLD.

Nice work CGY & LAK! (Good luck NJ &'ll need it.)

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19 Jun 2024 20:34:26
So for The Leafs to get Saros it would probably take Benoit and a 1st Rounder 2026 (Lottery Protected), if you were to compare the Markstrom trade.
Yet didn't you agree it would take Marner plus to get Saros?
What I am trying to get at is again teams don't trade major assets in trades like you keep trying to say, that's about right for Markstrom and and not surprised at all at the price tag, including Calgary eating part of the contract.
Today was a prime example of what I have said all along.

19 Jun 2024 21:01:18
I can't believe that LA gave up on PLD so fast. Although, I don't know why they traded for him in the first place.

19 Jun 2024 23:29:26
- Saros will be in demand.

- Markstrom “can” be good, but no one knows which version of him will show up in Jersey, so the Devils are taking more of a risk.

- Marner, if he waives, would be a 1-year asset. Why give up hard assets for that if you’re Nashville? The Preds are rebuilding.

- Also, with Marners’ almost 11M ticket, he’s a huge cap hit, so you’re trading him at pennies on the dollar. He’s of no use to a contender, and no use to a rebuilding team. Like you said, he probably won’t move, right?

I’m pretty sure you won’t be able to grasp any of this, but hockey informed hockey fans will.

19 Jun 2024 23:30:31
Pinball: Saros (29 years old) isn't Markstrom (34 years old) and Benoit (25 years old) isn't Bahl (23 years old) .

And everyone here can agree Conroy still got the worse end of that trade.

But go off on your "I was right because I said I was right" tantrum.

20 Jun 2024 01:07:02
Just curious Pinball, do you consider Markstrom and Saros to be the same calibre goalie?

20 Jun 2024 01:17:31
To say Marner has no value to a contender is dumber than anything pinball has ever said. Look at the UFA market for an example contenders overpay for stupid contracts all the time that are far worse than Marner. Also IF the leafs aren’t willing to retain after they pay his bonus the actual cash value of the contract is low meaning the team will only pay him a fraction of his cap hit. Not 100% sure but I think it’s like 3mil, so 3rd party retention to a team that needs to reach the floor like San Jose for an example wouldn’t cost all that much if that’s needed to facilitate a trade.

20 Jun 2024 10:48:03
“To say Marner has no value to a contender is dumber than anything pinball has ever said. “


- why would a contender want a whiney player like Marner? Because of his record of outstanding achievement in the playoffs? Because he’s such a great teammate?

- Marner has nothing that contenders are looking for, and his salary precludes him from most contenders.

Stay classy VB. Looking forward to your next insulting and head-scratching post.

20 Jun 2024 13:04:35
Marner has value to a contender at the deadline, but if he gets dealt at the deadline it will be a devastatingly low return for the Leafs.

He's a good player with 50P in 57 playoff games. Not great when you look at what he makes and the level he plays at during the regular season, but not bad either. His recent playoff performance hurt his value for sure.

I doubt he gets dealt. Likely finishes the year and heads to FA. 2025 free agency class has the potential to be scary good. I know I would rather enter that free agency with north of $20mill in cap space then bring back Marner at North of $10mill a year.

20 Jun 2024 23:35:04
Before Mathew Tkachuk was moved to the panthers he was despite being “playoff style player” was awful offensively for a player of his caliber and on top that he took stupid penalties that lost his team 2 or 3 games in the playoffs. Look at what a change of scenery did for him. I’m not sure if you’re trolling but you sound foolish. Respectfully. There isn’t even a comparable to players who consistently produce 90-100 point paces because they aren’t traded.

You rambled for years that the leafs were going to trade Mathews then once he resigned you went to Nylander now it’s Marner. Not one of your predictions have ever been accurate. I’d say you’re up there with Pinball for the worst takes on this site.



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