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20 Jun 2024 19:18:28
Blues Trade
Binnington*

Leafs Trade
Kampf*
1st Round Pick 2026(Top-10 protected)

*Both Binnington and Kampf would have to waive their NTC to complete the transaction.


Similar to the Markstrom trade yesterday.



Thoughts ?

Agree4 Disagree18

20 Jun 2024 19:34:39
Can you name one time the Blues were rumored to be shopping Binnington?

Because Markstrom was on the trade block since March and NJ were pursuing a trade for him since then as well.

Also, this trade is hopelessly sad for St. Louis and their fanbase would hate seeing such a poor return for their franchise goalie.

But you're not going to learn anything from this reply anyway so I'm wasting my time.

20 Jun 2024 19:42:12
- STL laughs and hangs up.

- Kampf is a cap dump who’d require a sweetener to move. He’s a minus player and currently rated as 4th liner. At 2.4M x 3 more years you’d need to retain or sweeten the deal to make it palatable.

- Binnington is a hothead, and therefore wouldn’t be a great fit with any market with lots of media. I can’t imagine a worse market for him, with the possible exceptions of NY or MTL.

- leafs have 3 picks left in the first three rounds for the next three years. THREE! I suspect Treliving will want to acquire more picks, not trade more like Dubas foolishly did.

#PinballNeedsATimeOut.

20 Jun 2024 19:57:35
Not similar.
Binnington is better than Markstrom.
Kampf is not a 23 year old 6’6” D man with upside.

20 Jun 2024 23:22:15
Binnington was rumoured to be in a deal to Edmonton last season involving Jack Campbell+ I believe but don’t quote me Frank servelli reported that around December. Personally I don’t think Binnington is worth a 1st.

IMO it’d be smart to move Binnington and then sign a good backup like Brossiout. Joel Hoefer to me looks like the real deal.

From the leafs POV I’d rather sign a good backup Broissoit or Kahkonen and run Woll as the starter. While allocating the 6.5 million that’d be spent on Binnington to the leafs Dcore.

21 Jun 2024 00:46:36
LMac0420
Have you seen Bahl play?
He is at best a 6th Defenceman more a depth player, so upside is quite comical actually, Markstrom and Binnington are close imo.

Chickenfoot
Is Kampf a Cap Dump because he is a depth fringe NHLer, or is it his Salary because he plays every game unless he is hurt, on St. Louis he is probably a third line checking centre, and he actually is good at that.

So both of you can criticize all you want including Chickenfoot in another post saying no contender wants Marner, again ridiculous and comical.

21 Jun 2024 01:53:36
Once again you prove that feedback just bounces off of you.

I dont even know why you bother asking what our thoughts are about your trades. Nobody ever agrees with you and you don't accept any criticism when you inevitably get it.

21 Jun 2024 02:28:59
Vbb
Yes I know Binnington has been on the trading block, I also believe in Woll and actually Hildeby also but in Toronto they want more security in Goal and Binnington gives them that for sure, Markstrom went for a young 6th or depth Defenceman and a 1st, so the asking price is probably a 1st and a frindge player like Bahl, Kampf is in my proposal because The Blues won't be retaining any contract of Binnington.

21 Jun 2024 04:50:08
What really laughable is #pinball defending these outragous proposals. Marner is a good player, but all the trades you propose that include Marner. well any Toronto player is just trash. Try thinking about what other teams needs.

21 Jun 2024 13:36:48
Pinball
Bahl is 23 just coming into the NHL, D don’t usually hit their prime until 25-28. He has potential to be in the top 4 for Calgary in the coming years. Safe bet for a rebuilding/ retooling team.
How does he compare to a 29 year old 4th line centre who makes 2.4 million?
St. Louis would be better off allocating the money elsewhere.
Fair point Binnington and Markstrom are close, but personally I think Binnington is better. Plus he’s younger. Plus has cup winning experience.

21 Jun 2024 13:40:27
Kampf is an overpaid 4th liner, why not just waive him to get rid of the $2.4m cap hit and see if someone like San Jose or Chicago will grab him to make the cap floor?

If you're just going to compare something 2 other teams did to what you think the Leafs should do, using your own logic this is similar to Goodrow being waived 2 days ago.



And if you're looking to bring in a $6m goalie as starter, why wouldn't you just re-sign Samsonov for that type of money since he's already got team chemistry and is 3 years younger than Binnington?
Seems like the only reason you are trying to acquire Binnington is that his old coach is now in Toronto, no different than when you came up with trades for Saad and Sanford.

Now you can click that disagree button pinball.

21 Jun 2024 14:01:27
LMac0420
Bahl a Top 4 Defenceman?
That alone tells me you haven't seen him play, Markstrom was basically traded for a future 1st Rounder Bahl is the afterthought.

21 Jun 2024 15:07:05
"Today’s trade demonstrates our focus on the infusion of young talented players into our roster as well as acquiring important draft capital, while maintaining our commitment as a playoff competitive team, ” Flames general manager Craig Conroy said in a release. "We thank Jacob for his professionalism and understanding of our decision to make this trade now and at this stage in his career. " - Craig Conroy, June 19, 2024 via TSN

21 Jun 2024 17:25:57
You know what you’re right Pinball, the kids a bust don’t even know why Calgary picked him up. Might as well ship him to Toronto for future considerations.

Once that happens you can package him with Kampf and the rights to Samsonov for Saros. Once he’s a Leaf he’ll hold trade value.

21 Jun 2024 18:02:59
LMac0420
Leafs don't want Bahl, Conroy is one the worst GMs is why he asked for Bahl, if you think he is so great hope you buy his Flames Jersey.

21 Jun 2024 18:58:22
Never said he was great, said the kid has POTENTIAL.
As stated above, on a retooling team he could see top 4 minutes. Not saying he is a Top 4 Dman, not saying he won’t be a bust. Just stating he has more value in a trade for a retooling team than a 29 year old Centre making 2.4 million would for a retooling team.

That all being said if Bahl lives up to his potential and ends up being a top 4 D I just might grab a jersey ;)

21 Jun 2024 22:42:44
This is horrible for blued. He will garner more than markstrom. But why would blues trade him. why.

23 Jun 2024 00:59:13
PINBALL…here is exactly what LMac said:

“He has potential to be in the top 4 for Calgary in the coming years. “

LMac, take it as a compliment when Pinball doesn’t agree with you…it probably means you’re making sense. ?

#PinballNeedsATimeOut!







 

 

 
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