15 Jun 2023 14:09:07
Seen an interesting trade and wanted some opinions.

PIT: Granlund
TOR: Murray

Trade was proposed as a 1 for 1 with no adds or retention.

1.) 15 Jun 2023
15 Jun 2023 15:21:59
No from both teams. The leafs need cap space. Samsonov and Woll is fine to run but need to spread out the savings over multiple players.

2.) 15 Jun 2023
15 Jun 2023 20:39:40
Like VBB said, Leafs want to trade Murray because they need cap space so trading him for another expensive player wouldn't make sense. Positional wise it makes no sense as well.

3.) 16 Jun 2023
16 Jun 2023 00:12:54
It makes sense for Toronto positionally if and only if O'Rielly and Kerfoot are gone. Reason stated in the article was that Pens may want to move on from Jarry. Why with Murray is beyond me. Granlund has shown he can be great offensively, but at 31 he's on the down slide of his career. Right circumstances I think he could have maybe a 70 point season (lots of PP time and playing with some top players) . But I'm more inclined to think a 40 point season is more likely and at $4mill+ that isn't ideal.

I truly don't know who yah even trade Murray to besides maybe Arizona, but it likely costs us one or two draft picks and all we'll be getting is future considerations.

4.) 16 Jun 2023
16 Jun 2023 11:35:42
can't see Pens wanting Murray back.

5.) 16 Jun 2023
16 Jun 2023 12:57:39
@balsam8 neither can I. The plus on Murray's value is it's only 1 year of him and then he's a FA. But with the age of the Pens core one year could mean the entire difference on a playoff run.

6.) 16 Jun 2023
16 Jun 2023 14:02:51
Murray signed a one year, two way with Dallas. $775k.

7.) 16 Jun 2023
16 Jun 2023 14:10:01
Because Granlund has 2 years remaining if Pittsburgh retained 2.5 million (50%) of Granlund's remaining 2 years I believe Toronto would consider it, Leafs would have to throw in a lower end prospect to make it fair as well imo.

8.) 16 Jun 2023
16 Jun 2023 15:14:45
@seabass2011 different Matt Murray.

9.) 16 Jun 2023
16 Jun 2023 15:52:33
I think a buyout makes more sense Murray. It would look like this:

TOR OTT
2023-24: 687,500 229,167
2024-25: 2M 666,667

This would save the leafs 5.33M this season, and likely the cap will be going up again next year to help pay the final year.


SEA BASS: The goalie DAL signed is a different Matt Murray.

10.) 16 Jun 2023
16 Jun 2023 16:35:24
@Chickenfoot I could live with a buyout on his contract if that's the savings. Curious to see what plays out with Muzzin as we could potentially have that cap available as well. I've also seen articles where they think Dubas will buyout Granlund. If the price is right he'd be a great 2nd (on the wing) or 3rd liner for just about about any team who lacks at those spots.

11.) 19 Jun 2023
19 Jun 2023 16:52:11
MG: It's sad to see any player forced into retirement for injuries, but I think it's widely understood that he'll live out the remainder of his contract on LTIR. He is pretty beat up, and it's time he look out for his post-career health, sadly.

12.) 19 Jun 2023
19 Jun 2023 17:35:36
@Chickenfoot: Definitely unfortunate what has happened injury wise to Muzzin. Last few years have not been kind to him in terms of injuries.

13.) 20 Jun 2023
20 Jun 2023 16:20:56
MG: If memory serves, he had 3 known concussions within 18 months. They should never have let him return so quickly for the 3rd one. Once you get one they happen easier and easier, and the damage is cumulative.

14.) 21 Jun 2023
21 Jun 2023 02:28:02
@Chickenfoot- I believe one was labeled a neck/ spine injury. Regardless he should have been off for longer to make sure he wasn't experiencing any of the lasting effects from the concussions. He's going to get paid to stay home going forward most likely.