23 Nov 2021 19:09:02
To Calgary:
RW Brock Boeser (24-RFA2022@5.875mil)
Vancouver Retains $875k
TOTAL: 5.00mil

To Vancouver:
LW Milan Lucic 2.55mil ret. = 2.70mil
RW/LW Dillon Dube (24-RFA2024@2.3mil)
TOTAL: 5.00mil

Does Calgary need to add or is retaining 48.5% of Lucic's Salary and Dillon Dube an RFA@2.3mil till 2024 sufficient?

1.) 23 Nov 2021
23 Nov 2021 20:09:47
Yeah. 0.36 PPG Dube AND abyss Lucic for a 1 year older 0.81 PPG Boeser. you are beyond delusional. Get some help.

2.) 23 Nov 2021
23 Nov 2021 21:00:22
Vancouver won't trade Boeser. He's overrated anyhow, would cost a lot more than he's worth.

3.) 23 Nov 2021
23 Nov 2021 22:44:17
Last I saw, Boeser is playing on the 3rd Line and is only getting 0.50PPG himself this year and the Canucks very likely won't be able to afford to keep him next year

If you want to compare the last 2 years, Dube is 0.43PPG, but only played 13 minutes per game on the 2nd and 3rd lines and received very little to no Power Play Minutes. If he got the 19 minutes and power play time Boeser does, he'd likely be getting 0.65-0.75+PPG as well, but at only 2.3mil/ year = 40% of what it costs for Boeser. Dube can also play every forward position LW/ C/ RW.

Lucic is 0.39PPG the last 2 years and plays 13:30 minutes per game on lines 3 and 4 with some 2nd line Power Play minutes. He too would likely contribute 0.60-0.65PPG if playing 19 minutes and given the same opportunities Boeser does. My proposal offers him to the Canucks for 2.70mil, which is better than Jason Dickson is contributing at his 2.65mil which cost the Canucks a 3rd Round Pick.

The way I saw it, Vancouver gets 2 NHL Players they can afford over the next 2 years for 1 they can't afford to keep. Maybe there's better offers out there, but instead of the negativity, why don't you provide some help? What do you think Calgary needs to add Draft Pick or Prospect that won't count against the Cap. They'll still need NHL players next year, draft picks typically take at least 2-3 years to be game ready and Calgary is already retaining $2 million in the deal x 2 years = $4 million, what's that worth, nothing?

If you're just comparing players based on Stats alone and not taking in to consideration minutes played and contract value, you should start.

4.) 23 Nov 2021
23 Nov 2021 23:28:25
@MoxNix, I trust your knowledge and opinion. Just trying to find secondary scoring and another Right Shot RW for the Flames with potential willing trade partners, just read that Boeser and J. T. Miller may both be on the block.

What about Brandon Sutter? Where's he at this year? Assuming he can get healthy and come back this year, could we send Pitlick and something their way for him? I was expecting more from Pitlick TBH, but maybe I haven't given him enough time.

5.) 24 Nov 2021
24 Nov 2021 00:48:13
The problems are:

1. Boeser is overpaid now and he'll want more money on his next contract. As an RFA they'll have to offer him the same money to keep him for another year or offer him even more to sign him for longer.

2. Vancouver is going to ask for a lot more than Boeser is worth.

If Boeser's salary was 4-4.5 mil/ yr I'd do that trade, with retention on Looch and all.

But I wouldn't trade Dube straight up for Boeser with that contract. Dube is has speed, skill and grit, he's a player who's shown flashes (like the hattrick last year) and is likely to pop if given a real opportunity to play in the top 6 and on the powerplay.

6.) 24 Nov 2021
24 Nov 2021 01:22:48
Okay Trade Off The Table. New Lines:

2nd Line: Monahan-Dube-Mangiapane and
3rd Line: Lucic-Backlund-Coleman
2nd Line: Pelletier-Dube-Mangiapane and
3rd Line: Monahan/ Coleman-Backland-Coleman/ Ruzicka.

7.) 24 Nov 2021
24 Nov 2021 01:35:40
There’s been lots of opportunity for Dube to be a top 6 in Calgary and get minutes and points. Where as Boeser has done it and produces at a top line level. If the Canucks aren’t saving any money with this trade then why couldn’t they afford Boeser? He probably won’t be getting a huge raise. Also give Lucic all the ice time he can take and he won’t be getting too 50 points.

8.) 24 Nov 2021
24 Nov 2021 02:02:15
Boeser WITH retention, and you’re giving Vancouver Lucic? Absolutely no chance with a sane GM at Vancouvers helm, howevers its Benning and he could very well trade Hughes for Mike Matheson without batting an eye so who knows lmfao.

9.) 24 Nov 2021
24 Nov 2021 05:00:12
Dube is having the same problem Sam Bennett had.

There are too many left shots ahead of him on the depth chart. He keeps getting shuffled around up and down the lineup and never really gets time to build some chemistry with anyone.

He's had the most success at LW and center, so they keep trying to turn him into a RW. Exactly like they did with Bennett.

10.) 25 Nov 2021
25 Nov 2021 02:53:51
Biased Flames fan.

11.) 25 Nov 2021
25 Nov 2021 14:21:58
JT Miller was also mentioned in that rumor article Trevor referenced. I'd be more interested in Miller as a replacement for Monahan.

Miller makes his contract has one remaining after this season and he's UFA then.

Monahan would have to be going back the other way unless they'd prefer hometown boy Looch.

It could make sense for both teams because Calgary is in win now mode and Vancouver isn't.

I'd offer:

Monahan @1.25 mil retained
2022 1st round draft pick / top prospect + 20202 2nd round pick

The prospect could be a lot of different players, Pelletier, Ruzicka, Gawdin, Mackey, Wolf, etc. The only prospects I wouldn't want to give up would be Zary and Coronato.

Could replace Dube with a prospect if the Canucks prefer that, making it 2 prospects and a 2nd or 1 prospect and a 1st.

12.) 25 Nov 2021
25 Nov 2021 14:25:38
The second sentence above should start with "Miller makes 5.25 mil/ yr". Forgot to put his salary in.

13.) 25 Nov 2021
25 Nov 2021 15:38:16
At this point, although Lucic would be willing go to Seattle or Vancouver, apparently no other team wants him. Based on the last game, I don't think we should break up the "All Kings Men" line, so he's fine on the 4th line.

Dube's not getting valued very highly and his shots will start going in, so we'll just keep him. Monahan is on the 1st Power Play and will rebound, so let's be patient and not disrupt anything for now, as it's working. Need to be patient with Pitlick, since he's a streaky player as well.

Zadorov is playing decent, so no immediate rush to move him, but other than wanting to trade for Phil Kessel, I will give credit to @NotACasual. Trading a pick and Glen Gawdin to Vegas for LD Braden McNabb @ $2.5mil when Alec Martinex comes back will save Vegas $2.5mil of the $7mil in cap space they need to clear to insert Jack Eichel in to the line-up and if we can trade Zadorov to get a 3rd round pick and dump his 3.75mil salary, we'll be up $1.25mil and likely have a higher 3rd RD pick than our own would have been and a better skating and we'd have a defensively minded 3rd line LD with playoff experience. Love You @NotACasual!