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21 Feb 2024 11:22:39
WSH - Martin Fehervary, Nic Dowd & 2024 4th
TOR - 2024 1st

DAL - Jani Hakanpaa, Radek Faksa & 2024 7th
TOR - Tyler Bertuzzi

Matthew Knies - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner
Max Domi - John Tavares - William Nylander
Bobby McMann - Radek Faksa - Calle Jarnkrok
Nic Dowd - David Kampf - Nicholas Robertson / Ryan Reaves

Morgan Rielly - TJ Brodie
Martin Fehervary - Jake McCabe
Simon Benoit - Jani Hakanpaa / Timothy Liljegren

Ilya Samsonov
Joseph Woll


1.) 21 Feb 2024 13:14:02
I actually like those but I don’t think Washington moves Fehravary.

2.) 21 Feb 2024 14:31:22
- WSH & DAL decline.

- Dowd left with an upper body injury last night, but if he's healthy he'll definitely be sought after, and teams like the Rangers will definitely overpay to get him. If he's healthy I expect to see him on Broadway.



20 Feb 2024 13:26:15
NSH - Juuse Saros and Yakov Trenin
CAR - Martin Necas, Pyotr Kochetkov and 2024 1st

“The Juuse Saros trade situation could be more serious than believed and he could actually be moved.”
(via Michael Gallagher)

“The Hurricanes, Kings and Devils have been linked to Juuse Saros ahead of the deadline.”
(via Michael Gallagher)

“Martin Necas may be a player that the Nashville Predators are interested in.”
(via Elliotte Friedman)


1.) 21 Feb 2024 13:15:55
I like the idea but I think it’s to much from Carolina think you could drop the 1st. Goalies aren’t worth much in trade.

2.) 21 Feb 2024 14:33:10
I could see something like this happening. Saros will draw a healthy return if Trotz pulls the trigger on a trade, and CAR is reportedly in the mix for him.



19 Feb 2024 13:33:56
MIN - Jake Middleton, Patrick Maroon and 2024 2nd
TOR - Tyler Bertuzzi

Minnesota acquires Bertuzzi in hopes of resigning him long-term. Leafs grab a decent defensemen, winning veteran bottom 6 forward, a draft pick and frees up 2.25M in cap space for more potential moves.

Middleton - 2.45M @ 2 UFA
Maroon - 800K @ 1 UFA
Bertuzzi - 5.5M @ 1 UFA

Matthew Knies - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner
Max Domi - John Tavares - William Nylander
Bobby McMann - Calle Jarnkrok - Nicholas Robertson
Ryan Reaves - David Kampf - Patrick Maroon

Morgan Rielly - TJ Brodie
Jake Middleton - Jake McCabe
Simon Benoit - Timothy Liljegren

Ilya Samsonov
Joseph Woll

Just wanted to post something new


1.) 19 Feb 2024 14:27:40
Seems fair but I don't think Bertuzzi will waive for a non contending team.

2.) 19 Feb 2024 14:44:44
So the leafs get:

- the best player in the trade (Middleton), who is under contract for the coming year at a very reasonable cap hit. (A D-man with almost identical offensive stats as Bert. )

- 2.25M in cap relief…which is absolutely huge.

- a proven winner in Maroon who would be an instant heart transplant for the leafs at playoff time.

- on top of all this, they get a 2nd too?

MIN gets:

- a head case they could sign as a UFA next season if they really wanted him. (And they won’t because they won’t be able to afford him with their crushing buyout penalties. )

- less depth for a team only 4 points out of a wild card?

I can’t imagine any scenario where Billy G would consider such a move. There’s absolutely no reason for him to do this to his team.

3.) 19 Feb 2024 15:11:10
Maroon is out 4-6 weeks just sayin ;)

4.) 20 Feb 2024 02:04:54
I think you're right, just throwing new trade ideas out instead of posting the same old stuff @chickenfoot.

5.) 20 Feb 2024 16:10:07
Would love to acquire a guy like Middleton. He would round out the defense without breaking the bank in terms of cap hit. I'd imagine to get him though you're looking at parting with a 1st, 2nd, and one of Minten or Cowen, plus a player to make the cap work (Kampf) . Big price, but got to pay to play.

I know Bert personally (grew up playing hockey against him and with him on occasion) and he really isn't a headcase just to make that known. He had a good stint with Boston and got paid. I'm sure we all would take advantage of a nice pay increase if it allowed. As for his performance I couldn't tell yah why it hasn't seemed to click or work in Toronto. If the Leafs trade him to a playoff team I would imagine he would waive, but maybe not seeing as his family just welcomed a new addition and likely doesn't want to be relocating. Hopefully it turns around for him though and we get some production down the stretch and into the playoffs from him.

6.) 20 Feb 2024 18:30:18
Bertuzzi let his team down when he remained the last anti-vax holdout in the NHL. He let his team mates down by missing all Canadian games when his team was in the hunt for a playoff position, and this hurt his trade value as well.

He has the tools to be great, but not the mindset. He scored 30 two years ago, followed by 2 years in single digits. He's on his 3rd team in two years, and the leafs only signed him for one year on a "prove it deal". Call it "mindset" if you prefer, but clearly he leaves his potential unfulfilled for a variety of reasons, and this year did nothing to improve his UFA salary negotiations.



19 Feb 2024 05:10:54
CGY - Chris Tanev
EDM - 2024 1st, 2025 5th and Philip Broberg

Chris Tanev comes with an 3 year extension and 50% retention on current contract. Price is slightly higher due to dealing with a division rival.
Let’s say the next contract is about 3M @ 3 UFA with a NMC


1.) 19 Feb 2024 10:17:53
Tanev has provided offense at a 1% rate above league average and defense at a staggering 19% above league average.
OZ Impact - 1%
DZ Impact - 18%
Compared to Oilers Defense :
Bouchard | OZ 2% | DZ 5%
Ekholm | OZ 5% | DZ 6%
Nurse | OZ -4% | DZ 3%
Ceci | OZ 0% | DZ -5%
Kulak | OZ 4% | DZ 2%
Desharnhais | OZ -7% | DZ 9%
(via hockeyviz)

| 652.7 Mins | 49 GP | 52.5% xGoals % | 27.2 xGoals For | 24.6 xGoals Against | 2.5 xGoals For Per 60 Mins | 2.26 xGoals Against Per 60 Mins
(via moneypuck)

Tanev 92% WAR %
EV Offense 55% | EV Defense 99% | Finishing 59% | Goals 18% | 1st Assists 41% | Penalties 67% | Competition 83% | Teammates 83%
(via jfresh)

2020-21 | 56GP | 2G | 10A | 12Pts | 6PIM | +15 +/-
2021-22 | 82GP | 6G | 22A | 28Pts | 22PIM | +35 +/-
2022-23 | 65GP | 1G | 12A | 13Pts | 21PIM | +7 +/-
2023-24 | 52GP | 1G | 11A | 12Pts | 10PIM | +10 +/-
(via hockeydb)

2.) 20 Feb 2024 18:42:37
Seems crazy that those numbers show Bouchard as only 1% better than Tanev at offense. Can’t say I agree with that.

3.) 21 Feb 2024 02:07:55
@Ebsolutely Oilersnation posted it
Article - “The Oilers are reportedly ‘making a push’ for Flames defenceman Chris Tanev.”

4.) 21 Feb 2024 16:20:16
@Ebsolutely got to remember a lot of Bouchard's points don't come from the OZ, they come from that initial pass out of the DZ.

5.) 21 Feb 2024 18:26:59
Okay didn’t realize that’s how it’s tracked, makes sense. Still 14 goals vs. 12 points total makes me think these stats aren’t to be fully trusted.

6.) 23 Feb 2024 01:46:04
Completely unrealisric. Taney is way too injury prone and is nothing but a rental. It would need multiple teams to complete this trade and really. Taney is only better than Desardais on the Oilers roster.
Trade would need to be Tanev 50% retained to team 1, Taney to team 2 50% retained, Taney to edm. Desaedais & 2nd to Calgary, 3rd to team 1, 4th to team 2.



18 Feb 2024 16:09:47
PIT - Marcus Pettersson
TOR - Tyler Bertuzzi

Leafs need defense and Penguins need a forward.
Pettersson (27) - 4M @ 2 UFA
Bertuzzi (28) - 5.5M @ 1 UFA


1.) 18 Feb 2024 21:58:41
No interest in Petterson at any price.

2.) 18 Feb 2024 21:59:02
Also leaf’s need a RHD not a LHD.




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29 Feb 2024 08:29:26
Chris Tanev for Artem Grushnikov, 2024 2nd & Conditional 2026 3rd
Sean Monahan for 2024 1st & Conditional 2027 3rd
Elias Lindholm for Andrei Kuzmenko, Joni Jurmo, Hunter Brzustewicz, 2024 1st & Conditional 2024 4th

What do we think Noah Hanifin returns for the Flames? I’m thinking a 1st + prospect + roster player for rental, more if he comes with an extension.




29 Feb 2024 08:24:00
Flames basically got two 2nds and a 3rd for Tanev, you’re telling me Treliving couldn’t do better than that? It was rumoured that they were asking for a single 1st, why wouldn’t he pay that considering Tanev lives in Toronto in the off-season so there’s no doubt he’d resign, you’re getting him 75% retained and he improves your defence drastically for the playoffs. Flames fans know have seen this from Treliving for years “runner up” constantly lol.

Not a bad return but also not as good as everyone anticipated, I’m pretty sure it was VB who was pretty spot on about his value.




01 Feb 2024 01:13:11
what a haul for Lindholm


1.) 01 Feb 2024 13:37:34
I thought other teams could have used him more, but definitely not offering that much for him.



08 Jan 2024 14:09:45
Auston Matthews - $13.25 @ 4 UFA
William Nylander - $11.50 @ 8 UFA
John Tavares - $11.00 @ 2 UFA
Mitch Marner - $10.90 @ 2 UFA

yikes dude, this team will never win a cup with contracts like that.


1.) 09 Jan 2024 02:26:29
Tavares will sign a league Minimum 700k deal then they will be fine.

2.) 10 Jan 2024 15:10:23
Tavares could sign a Giroux / Pavelski deal easily. So he’s gonna leave 20M off the table?

3.) 12 Jan 2024 01:44:09
Nylander might end up being similar to the Nurse contract.



01 Dec 2023 01:10:53
Canucks fans are just torching the flames page rn lmaoo absolutely fleeced, apparently all the teams wanted the Flames to retain salary except the Canucks so Conroy took that deal.


1.) 01 Dec 2023 01:40:26
Can’t wait for the Flames to only get a 2nd and abruzzese for Tanev (50% Retained)

2.) 01 Dec 2023 13:46:20
Dude go google what pending UFAs normally get.

3.) 01 Dec 2023 16:33:39
@VBB I get that but he’s only 28 and went to a division rival. just odd

4.) 01 Dec 2023 22:36:33
@VBB Darren Dreger mentioned that the teams around the league even thought the return was a little light which is a huge yikes for Conroy.

5.) 02 Dec 2023 01:49:03
Zadarov is not good man. Tanev will get a 2nd and a 3rd and Hanfin will get a 1st.




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27 Feb 2024 23:04:52
Allen is a 33 year old backup goalie




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27 Feb 2024 10:36:39
COL trades Byram, O’Connor & Kero for Jarnkrok, Kampf & Dumba? nah wtf




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23 Feb 2024 01:20:45
@Chickenfoot that Gaudreau comparison seems really accurate actually lol




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23 Feb 2024 01:17:21
pretty close in terms of value imo




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22 Feb 2024 04:19:51
Marner > Keller (not by much)
Schmaltz > Bertuzzi
Crouse > > > Robertson
ARI 1st > > TOR 1st

would make no sense at all for the Coyotes.

- Keller (younger and cheaper)
- Schmaltz (younger, better and has years on his deal)
- Crouse (far better and proven player)
- ARI 1st (their pick is obviously going to be way better than the Leafs)





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01 Dec 2023 22:36:33
@VBB Darren Dreger mentioned that the teams around the league even thought the return was a little light which is a huge yikes for Conroy.




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01 Dec 2023 16:33:39
@VBB I get that but he’s only 28 and went to a division rival. just odd




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01 Dec 2023 01:40:26
Can’t wait for the Flames to only get a 2nd and abruzzese for Tanev (50% Retained)




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30 Jun 2023 23:15:47
@vbb newsflash insiders are saying the market is terrible for forwards right now if you keep up with hockey news, it seems like you only just flap your gums on this site. A 73pt Sniper with a low cap hit definitely should've gotten more, same with Reilly Smith.




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28 Jun 2023 00:35:07
Lol yeah happy for them