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02 Sep 2021 00:05:54
To SJS :
C - Sean Monahan ( 6.37 @ 2 UFA )

To CGY :
C - Tomas Hertl ( 5.62 @ 1 UFA )

Hertl, 27
Monahan, 26

J Gaudreau - T Hertl - E Lindholm
A Mangiapane - M Backlund - M Tkachuk
J Pelletier - D Dube - B Coleman
M Lucic - T Lewis - T Pitlick

N Hanifin - C Tanev
J Valimaki - R Andersson
N Zadorov - C Mackey

J Markstrom
D Vladar

T Meier - L Couture - K Lebanc
E Kane - S Monahan - N Merkley
N Gregor - N Bonino - R Balcers
A Cogliano - L Pederson - M Nieto

M Vlasic - B Burns
R Simek - E Karlsson
M Ferraro - N Knyzhov

J Reimer
A Hill.

1.) 02 Sep 2021 16:22:51
Value wise I see the main difference being 2 years of the slightly younger Monahan for a 1 year of Hertl.

If Hertl had equal term or an extension, I’d lean towards Hertl having the edge in value so Calgary would need to add. Not necessarily too much, like a 2nd/ 3rd or maybe an equivalent prospect.

If it’s just for rental Hertl, then this is an overpay by Calgary. Rentals don’t get much more than picks/ prospects unless it’s a Rental for Rental swap.

Also my guess is Calgary is going retool and compete. Sharks if moving Hertl would be going towards rebuild territory. So Sharks might not see Monahan as a fit for the rebuild. Calgary also May prefer a Right handed RW in place of left handed C in Hertl. Unless of course they move Monahan to get that RW and then have Hertl fill his spot.

So the deal proposed is interesting, would just need fine tuning based on a couple other factors.

2.) 02 Sep 2021 18:51:06
How does Monahan fit into the sharks rebuild? Makes no sense for sharks. They’d want a 1st and a prospect or a player like Mangiapane and a 2nd.

3.) 02 Sep 2021 22:34:56
@nylander I didn’t realize that they are rebuilding. They haven’t really done anything to signal that.

4.) 05 Sep 2021 23:12:43
They haven't really done much to say they aren't rebuilding either. Compared to the other teams in the division, if they have a good season they still are outside of the playoff picture.

5.) 13 Sep 2021 22:13:39
San Jose would have to add.

Monahan is a year younger but he and Hertl both came into the league the same year. With the exception of last year when Monahan was playing injured he's outpointed Hertl every year.

Monahan has 2 years left on his contract Hertl only has 1.

If Hertl had more than a year left on his contract too it'd be a lot closer.



30 Aug 2021 00:05:51
To Montreal :
C - Sean Monahan ( 6.37 @ 2 UFA )

To Toronto :
LW - Jonathan Drouin ( 5.50 @ 2 UFA )

To Calgary :
2022 - First-Round Selection ( MTL )
2022 - Second-Round Selection ( TOR )
C - Alex Kerfoot ( 3.50 @ 2 UFA )
D - Travis Dermott ( 1.50 @ 2 RFA )

J Drouin - A Matthews - M Marner
N Robertson - J Tavares - W Nylander
N Ritchie - M Bunting - I Mikheyev

T Toffoli - N Suzuki - C Caufield
M Hoffman - S Monahan - B Gallagher
A Lehkonen - J Evans - J Anderson

J Gaudreau - E Lindholm - M Tkachuk
A Mangiapane - M Backlund - B Coleman
D Dube - A Kerfoot - T Pitlick.

1.) 30 Aug 2021 04:31:43
Not bad, but I'd rather just cut Toronto out and make it KK with the offer sheet matched + Montreal's first.

2.) 30 Aug 2021 04:36:10
I forgot about Drouin. I guess that won't work.

3.) 30 Aug 2021 16:11:39
MTL declines Monahan, a career -31.

CGY declines picks, they're still trying to go for it.

Everyone declines Kerfoot and Dermott who are in EVERY leaf proposal. (Seattle could have taken Kerfoot for nothing, and declined. )

KK can't be traded this year by anyone.

4.) 30 Aug 2021 20:56:39
Kerfoot, Dermott and Engvall too!

Actually someone might take a flyer on Engvall just because he's 6/ 5" 214 lbs.

5.) 30 Aug 2021 22:30:42

Engvall just doesn't move the needle for me. I think we've discussed this before.

You once called him a project. Call him what you want but he is not a full-time NHL player, and holds no value except with leaf fans who include him, Kerfoot, Dermott, Holl, etc. in every trade proposal every day.

6.) 31 Aug 2021 04:42:10

I don't disagree. I don't like Engvall either but I do think some GM (s) would look at his size and take chance on him. He's an RFA in a year anyhow so if it doesn't work out they'd just not qualify him and let him become a UFA.

7.) 31 Aug 2021 21:33:55
Umm I wouldn’t call selecting McCann ( a solid player ) over Kerfoot also a solid vanilla player “declining him for free” they chose the younger cheaper player. Personally I’d take Kerfoot over McCann he’s a better defensive player and played phenomenal in the playoffs.



29 Aug 2021 23:58:04
If Montreal doesn’t match Kotkaniemi

To Montreal :
C - Jack Eichel

To Buffalo :
2022 - First-Round Selection ( MTL )
2022 - First-Round Selection ( CAR )
2022 - Second-Round Selection ( NJD )
LD - Kaiden Guhle
RW - Tyce Thompson

To New Jersey :
LW - Jonathan Drouin

T Toffoli - J Eichel - C Caufield
M Hoffman - N Suzuki - B Gallagher
A Lehkonen - J Evans - J Anderson
R Poehling - C Paquette - J Armia.

1.) 30 Aug 2021 16:13:19
MTL declines to include Guhle, and counter with:

- Two 1st (2022 MTL and CAR)
- 2nd and 3rd (2022)
- Drouin
- Ylonen

This would be as generous as I would consider for Eichel. If Buf asks for more I'd understand, but I'd walk.

2.) 31 Aug 2021 21:34:55
Buffalo definitely walks from that. They’re smarter to sit back and get Eichel healthy.

3.) 01 Sep 2021 15:46:19
NYLANDER, sadly Eichel can't even have the surgery he wants till he's traded to a team that accepts that surgery.

I agree BUF would be smarter to get him healthy, but I just don't see them doing the right thing. The situation is toxic, and with both sides dug in, I feel badly for the fans in Buffalo.

I hope for all concerned that Eichel gets traded, gets healthy, and Buf fans get something back to cheer for.



29 Aug 2021 01:24:25
To Calgary :
LW - Brandon Tanev ( 3.50 @ 4 UFA )
C - Jared McCann ( 2.94 @ 1 RFA )
Second-Round Selection in (2023)

To Seattle :
C - Sean Monahan ( 6.37 @ 2 UFA )

To Calgary :
RW - Bryan Rust ( 3.50 @ 1 UFA )

To Pittsburgh :
First-Round Selection in (2022)
C - Glenn Gawdin ( 750K @ 1 RFA )

To Calgary :
RD - Colin Miller ( 3.87 @ 1 UFA )

To Buffalo :
Third-Round Selection in (2023)
C - Mathias Emilio Pettersen ( ELC )
LD - Oliver Kylington ( 750K @ 1 RFA )
LW - Milan Lucic ( 5.25 @ 2 UFA )

Johnny Gaudreau - Elias Lindholm - Matthew Tkachuk

Andrew Mangiapane - Mikael Backlund - Blake Coleman

Dillon Dube - Jared McCann - Bryan Rust

Brandon Tanev - Trevor Lewis - Tyler Pitlick / Brett Ritchie

Noah Hanifin - Chris Tanev

Juuso Valimaki - Rasmus Andersson

Nikita Zadorov - Colin Miller / Connor Mackey

Jacob Markstrom

Dan Vladar.

1.) 29 Aug 2021 08:08:49
If that's the best offer they get for Monahan then he'll be staying in Calgary.

Rust is decent but I dunno, I just don't like giving up a 1st for a 1 year rental who will almost certainly be on the 3rd line. Especially not in a year a player like Shane Wright is available.

Colin Miller isn't very good. I'd rather see Mackey or even Kylington on the team than him. Still they could buy him out. That'd only cost ~1.3 mil for 2 years saving the Flames nearly 4 mil/ yr on what Looch gets.



28 Aug 2021 13:55:02
If Seattle was open to making Brandon Tanev and Jared McCann available. Tom Wilson is apparently not untouchable according to Washington.

To Seattle :
Second-Round Selection in (2022)
Third-Round Selection in (2023)
RW - Ryan Francis
C - Glenn Gawdin ( 750K @ 1 RFA )
D - Oliver Kylington ( 750K @ 1 RFA )
LW - Milan Lucic ( 5.25 @ 2 UFA )

To Calgary :
C - Jared McCann ( 2.94 @ 1 RFA )
LW - Brandon Tanev ( 3.50 @ 4 UFA )

To Washington :
C - Sean Monahan ( 6.37 @ 2 UFA )
First-Round Selection in (2022)

To Calgary :
RW - Tom Wilson ( 5.16 @ 3 UFA )

Johnny Gaudreau - Elias Lindholm - Matthew Tkachuk
Andrew Mangiapane - Mikael Backlund - Tom Wilson
Dillon Dube - Jared McCann - Blake Coleman
Brandon Tanev - Trevor Lewis - Tyler Pitlick

Noah Hanifin - Chris Tanev
Juuso Valimaki - Rasmus Andersson
Nikita Zadorov - Connor Mackey

Jacob Markstrom
Dan Vladar

Very pesky and defensive team, they would make the opposing team’s life a living hell.

1.) 28 Aug 2021 14:26:11
Washington laughs historically and Seattle says we’re not taking on Lucic for that crap even before those 2 names are mentioned.

2.) 28 Aug 2021 16:23:02
Seattle says no thanks.

Tom Wilson is a lifetime suspension waiting to happen. Bettman and his cronies wouldn't let Wilson get away with his antics on a Canadian team.

3.) 28 Aug 2021 20:06:58
Zero chance Seattle gives up two solid players for a cap dump and mediocre assets.

4.) 28 Aug 2021 22:21:18
Hard no from Calgary. No need to make the team even more mediocre.




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04 Sep 2021 22:15:42
Do y’all think Montreal is going to use those picks to acquire Dvorak maybe?

1.) 04 Sep 2021 22:39:43
Holy S*** lmaooo 1st and 3rd for Dvorak confirmed, bruh. Honestly had no idea, was just going off of what I heard on Twitter a few days ago. Which was that Habs we’re interested in Dvorak.

2.) 05 Sep 2021 13:52:56
My bad I meant 1ST and 2ND.



29 Aug 2021 00:13:20
Montreal shouldn’t match Kotkaniemi’s offer sheet. They don’t have the cap for it and the 1ST, 3RD could be valuable in this strong draft.

1.) 29 Aug 2021 04:36:59
I definitely would not match. and I like KK…take the picks.

2.) 29 Aug 2021 05:16:17
If he signed an offer sheet for one year, he must really want out of Montreal. They might as well just take the picks and let him go. It hurts the center depth though.

3.) 29 Aug 2021 15:01:00
Bye KK. I honestly wouldn't want him back. IMO, the $20 signing bonus was an F. U to Bergevin.
Sure. sign the deal , but that signing bonus was disrespectful.

4.) 30 Aug 2021 15:37:05
Memarcus I mean why wouldn’t he accept it? He’d be getting paid way more than arbitration would give him.

5.) 30 Aug 2021 17:12:58
Casual, just because it is only one year. Sure he gets 6.1 for a year, but if he wanted to stay in Montreal, he would probably end up with more money on a longer term contract.

I think he likely signed the OS with the understanding that this is what they are using to pry him out of Montreal and then they'll work on a fair long term deal that will depend on how he does this year. They couldn't go the Bergevin route and offer a deal that is a no-brainer to match. They had to offer a contract that makes Montreal think as it hurts Montreal both short and long term no matter what.

If he goes on a 1 year deal and stinks (with no indication that thecanes want him long term), he probably costs himself a lot more than 6 mil on a long term deal. The safer bet for him financially with a flat cap is a longer term deal. Less dollars per year, but more dollars overall.

A one year term to me just looks like, get me out of here and then we'll talk about a real long term deal for a fair cost.



23 Aug 2021 22:12:34
RIP Jimmy Hayes.



01 Aug 2021 00:57:16
Toronto fans are probably in for another disappointment, not really much has changed with their lineup. No improvement on their blueline. Not much of an upgrade in the bottom 6 either. I’m not a fan of the Kase signing, he’s super injury prone. He has yet to play a full season, if he stays healthy then it’s a steal but I doubt he will.

1.) 01 Aug 2021 02:44:49
Yeah they don’t look any better on paper. but ya never know. usually after about 25 games you get a better idea.

2.) 01 Aug 2021 04:37:44
I'm just surprised that the Leafs are going with two backups in net. I really thought they'd finally try and land a starter.

3.) 01 Aug 2021 15:13:05
I don't mind the Ritchie signing.
But ya, I don't see any improvement.

I think. as of now,
Boston get the 3 spots.

Leafs and Habs will battle for a Wildcard.

4.) 01 Aug 2021 17:47:28
Considering Campbell out played Price in the playoffs I’d say he’s a starter.

5.) 01 Aug 2021 19:56:27
Lol, 7 whole games where he played mediocre is DEFINITE proof he's a starter.

6.) 01 Aug 2021 23:28:44
Honestly, I’m content with what the Leafs did. I wanted more for sure, but the only way anything happens in the playoffs is if Matthews and Marner decide to show up. Adding more offence was what I wanted (Bertuzzi, Garland, etc. ), but honestky, with or without those guys, if Auston and Mitch combine for 1 goal between a combined 14 games, this team is going nowhere. I don’t think Auston’s traded if they fall flat again, but Mitch is on put-up or shut-up at this point if they fail again. I definitely would’ve wanted more, don’t get me wrong, but I feel a lot of the moves are decent enough depth. Bunting was nice in Arizona, and could be a chippy 30 point guy for the team, Kases a complete wild card, and as much as I’m not the biggest Ritchie fan, I like him on the 3-4L - especially since we weren't trading like Liljegren for him (as people have suggested Lily for Crouse before) . The dcore also stayed completely in tact - Sandin in for Bogo is a wash imo, and the goalies honestky improved. I loved years 1-3 Fred, but these last two years have been middling inconsistency. Mrazek is nothing special - he's not a Vasy or Fleury or Price or whatnot, but he's someone who can play 35-40 games easily, which is what we need. Campbell had the best sv% in the playoffs (albeit 7 games), and was very solid, rarely having positional mistakes and whatnot. Sure he isn't the best starter, but I do think he's ready to play 40 or so games, so long as he remains healthy.

In all, I agree that the Leafs probably couldve/ shouldve done more. But this is put up or shut up for Dubas and Marner, if they don't perform in the playoffs, both of them are gone imo. And really, I don't see an issue w making the playoffs either - Tampa lost their entire second line (Gourdes line played more than Stammers), Boston lost Krejci and Ritchie and replaced them with Foligno and Haula (net even or negative imo) and Florida improved. I think Toronto gets in for sure, its just, can this core actually do anything, or is it finally time to burn this bridge?



29 Jul 2021 16:26:40
Wanna learn how to get worse after free agency? Just look at the flames roster.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Coleman
Mangiapane - Dube - Pitlick
Lucic - Lewis - Ritchie

Hanifin - Tanev
Zadorov - Andersson
Valimaki - Mackey


1.) 29 Jul 2021 20:23:32
How are they worse? They got a solid backup, solid bottom 6 energy guy in Pitlick who’s underrated, solid 4th liner in Lewis and Coleman who is great in his role.

2.) 30 Jul 2021 18:20:57
Ryan >> Lewis
Giordano >> Zadorov

They’re worse.

3.) 01 Aug 2021 17:49:36
Ohh wow the got a slight downgrade at 4th line C and lost a 39 year old declining dman. That’s nothing Coleman makes up for that. He’s a stud you’ll love him as a player just slightly over payed by 1.5 mil.

4.) 02 Aug 2021 07:58:54
Lewis and Zadorov are huge downgrades.




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16 Sep 2021 04:49:50
Just saying, for the past 5 season Gaudreau is #15 and the players behind him are Tavares, Barkov, Malkin, Giroux, Backstrom, Huberdeau, Aho and Rantanen… do your research before you speak.



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16 Sep 2021 04:46:22
BOSSMAN67 you do realize that for the past 5 seasons Gaudreau is #15 in points and Huberdeau is #21 while playing with Barkov…. Just saying. For you to say Gaudreau is washed just shows how much of a casual you truly are. Put Gaudreau beside Barkov and he’d be much higher in points. Gaudreau plays with Monahan lol and carries the heck out of him, Monahan is good but he ain’t no Barkov that’s for sure.



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12 Sep 2021 11:35:29
Florida definitely says no but did you seriously call Gaudreau washed up? You know nothing about hockey bud.



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10 Sep 2021 06:33:39
Shane Doan got the privilege to draft his own son and you think Arizona would flip him months later? Bruh.



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08 Sep 2021 11:20:33
Who has more points than Hanifin? Lmao cause it certainly ain’t Brown.




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