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01 Mar 2021 11:44:16
Apparently if Forsberg is made available then Calgary would be a serious front runner. But we hear the same stuff every year from Treliving. I’m glad we didn’t trade for Taylor Hall though, apparently the Flames offered Hanifin and Bennett for Hall. Anyways here’s my proposal :


To Preds :
- (2021) 1st Round Pick
- C Mikael Backlund
- RD Connor Mackey
- C Adam Ruzicka

To Flames :
- Filip Forsberg

(We saw what Laine got in return, so I feel the value of this package comes close. Love negative/positive feedback cause it helps me understand value more)


F Forsberg - E Lindholm - J Gaudreau
M Tkachuk - S Monahan - S Bennett
A Mangiapane - D Dube - M Lucic
G Gawdin - D Ryan - B Robinson

M Giordano - R Andersson
N Hanifin - C Tanev
J Valimaki - N Nesterov


If you guys don’t know who Ruzicka is, look him up. He’s one of our best prospects.


1.) 01 Mar 2021 13:51:10
Backlund would be of no interest of the Predators. Would be smarter to move him elsewhere.


2.) 01 Mar 2021 16:18:40
That's a bad idea for Calgary.

If the Preds trade Forsberg they probably want young players, prospects and picks in return, not Backlund.

I like what we've seen from Conner Mackey in the 2 games he's played so far. Looks like a solid defenseman with more of a physical game than any Flames defensemen that aren't named Giordano or Andersson.

Take out Backlund and Mackey, add Kylington and a 2nd or something would be more to my liking. I'd even say Valimaki but Treliving likes Valimaki so much I don't see him ever considering that.

Also I don't see those line combos happening. The Flames have steadfastly refused to split Johnny and Monny up over the years through multiple coaches. That must be coming from Treliving or the board.

Those combos for 2nd and 3rd line don't make sense either. Bennett is at his best as 3rd line center. A line with him at center, Lucic and Dube has already proven effective. Plus Tkachuk and Mangiapane have proven chemistry (with Backlund at center) .


3.) 01 Mar 2021 16:21:38
Oh BTW, regarding Mackey he's a left shot and though he can play either side, normally plays LD. The Flames used him at RD for those 2 games because he was replacing Nesterov.


4.) 01 Mar 2021 23:12:03
@moxnix I put him as rd not rhd. Cause we’ve used him as a rd since scrims


 

 

25 Feb 2021 13:08:12
(ARZ-TOR)
To ARZ : Alex Kerfoot, Timothy Liljegren and (2021) Third-Round Pick
To TOR : Lawson Crouse


(CGY-TOR)
To CGY : Conditional (2021) Second-Round Pick and Pierre Engvall
To TOR : Sam Bennett

(Condition : If Toronto advances to the 2nd Round of the Playoffs then the pick turns into Toronto’s 2021 First-Round Pick, if Toronto is eliminated in Round 1 or misses the Playoffs then the pick remains Toronto’s 2021 Second-Round Pick)



Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner
Joe Thornton - John Tavares - William Nylander
Ilya Mikheyev - Sam Bennett - Wayne Simmonds
Lawson Crouse - Jason Spezza - Jimmy Vesey / Alex Galchenyuk

Morgan Rielly - Tj Brodie
Jake Muzzin - Justin Holl
Travis Dermott - Zach Bogosian

Frederik Andersen
Jack Campbell


1.) 25 Feb 2021 15:19:57
ID wholeheartedly do the Bennett deal, but i just don’t like the Crouse deal. Haven’t been a big fan of him and have been liking Kerfoot more and more over the last few games. I’d rather keep Kerfoot, although he doesn't bring the energy/ truculence that Crouse brings, when Wayne gets healthy there's enough of that from him, and maybe we could add a rental (older guy like that, wouldn't cost as much) for a cheaper price, like a 2nd or so.

I do see where the idea comes from, I just don’t like Crouse enough to be paying that bug of a package for him.


2.) 25 Feb 2021 18:22:12
too much for crouse, take out liljegren and i'd do it.

bennett deal seems fine.


3.) 25 Feb 2021 19:05:08
I don't think conditional picks are allowed anymore.


4.) 26 Feb 2021 04:43:16
Bennett for Thornton. would be funny to me.

All seriousness, bennett has more value to the flames than they'll get for him. He's usually top 3 on the team at playoff time. Just bottom 3 through regular season.


5.) 28 Feb 2021 19:45:56
Get Bennett get crouse get Spencer’s Watson then u have a great Kingston connection line


 

 

25 Feb 2021 12:56:13
To ARZ : Alex Kerfoot, Timothy Liljegren and (2021) Second-Round Pick

To TOR : Lawson Crouse


LW, Crouse - 1.53 @ 2 years RFA
( 23 years old )

C, Kerfoot - 3.50 @ 3 years UFA
( 26 years old )

RD, Liljegren - 863K @ 2 years RFA
( 21 years old )


 

 

20 Feb 2021 13:06:31
I’m going to attempt a Jack Eichel to CGY Trade. Obviously it’s probably highly unlikely he’d ever come here.. I wouldn’t ever do it from the Flames though, would be an expensive trade. This would mean that most likely Backlund and Lucic go to clear cap


To Calgary : Jack Eichel

To Buffalo : (2021) First-Round Pick, (2021) Second-Round Pick, Juuso Valimaki, Dustin Wolf, Jakob Pelletier and Sam Bennett



G Dustin Wolf, 19
46GP | 34-10-2 | 1.88 GAA

LHD Juuso Valimaki, 22
17GP | 0G 6A | 6Pts

RW Jakob Pelletier, 19
WJC - 7Pts in 7GP
16GP | 6G 18A | 24Pts


1.) 20 Feb 2021 15:58:23
Not enough for Eichel but the Flames don't need this me first coach killer.


2.) 20 Feb 2021 16:13:41
I think you've got decent value there, although goalies don't usually carry much value, but I'm pretty sure Buffalo would want one of the players that you don't want to give up. At least one of Tkachuk, Lindholm, Dube or Andersson would need to be included, IMO.


3.) 20 Feb 2021 17:15:02
I think any trade for Eichel would have to include Monahan or Gaudreau. If the Flames have Lindholm and Eichel, it'd make more sense to keep Backlund and either trade Monahan or convert him to wing anyhow.

And Lucic isn't going anywhere he doesn't want to with that NTC. He'll waive for the expansion draft and probably would for Vancouver too but that's about it.

Eichel is overrated but he's still worth Monahan or Gaudreau plus adds. The question is what would the adds need to be?


4.) 20 Feb 2021 20:22:48
Is Guadreau or Monahan in there as a cap dump because there is absolutely no reason that a rebuilding team would want either.


5.) 20 Feb 2021 20:26:10
LMAO eichel is overrated? I’m a leafs fan and I will say Eichel=Mathews. Monahan is not even a top 45C in the NHL and Eichel is a borderline top 10 player in the nhl. Guadreau isn’t bad but players like him and Hall aren’t who you build around. He’s a great supporting winger to a 1C which Calgary does not have.


6.) 20 Feb 2021 23:58:17
@Nylander Don't be ridiculous. I didn't say Eichel isn't a first line center or isn't one of the better first line centers around. All I said was that he's overrated. To be clear he's very good but he's not elite like many believe.

I also said it would take Monny or Johnny plus adds (plural since you don't seen to have noticed) . If that doesn't tell you I rate Eichel quite a bit higher than either Monny or Johnny I don't know what to say. In fact it might take Monny AND Johnny.

I agree you don't build around the Gaudreaus and Halls, they're complementary players.

Monahan isn't one of the better 1st line centers but he is an adequate one. I'd rank him towards the bottom of first line centers and Lindholm at least a few spots ahead of that. Before you bring it up, yes a few teams have better centers playing on the 2nd line. For that matter, Monahan himself is now the defacto 2nd line center in Calgary.


7.) 21 Feb 2021 15:22:51
Not sure what you define as elite but if Eichel isn’t elite Mathews and Crosby aren’t either. Eichel> Prime Jarome Iginla.


8.) 21 Feb 2021 15:27:21
Monahan and Guadreau for Eichel don’t even get the conversation started. Monahan isn’t a 1c Kadri>>Monahan as all around player he’s to old for Buffalo to want to build around and as per Guadreau the Sabres they have Skinner being payed 9 million for the next 7 seasons and Hall who is going to demand a pretty penny as well. They do not need or want either players. I’m sure they’d take both and retrade them but that just doesn’t happen.


9.) 21 Feb 2021 15:28:50
A fair trade for Mathews/ Eichel would be-

Mathew Tkachuk
Rasmus Anderson
Sam Bennet
1st 2021
2nd 2022.


10.) 22 Feb 2021 01:48:41
You lost me at Kadri >> monahan

I'll agree he's not a 1c, but Kadri is not above him.


11.) 22 Feb 2021 03:58:07
You think Eichel = Matthews and Kadri > Monahan? That's where you're wrong.

Matthews > Eichel
Monahan > Kadri

Eichel I'd rate somewhere around 10th to 15th best center in the league. Dailyfaceoff rates him as the #9 center but as I said earlier I think he's a little overrated.

Matthews is rated #6 there but that's going to rise if he keeps playing the way he has been lately. For that matter McDavid is only rated #5 and Draisaitl #1.

Hall will likely go to whatever good team offers him the most next year and there's a good chance he'll wind up being a playoff rental this year for the team of his choice.


 

 

18 Feb 2021 15:08:37
To Calgary : Brady Tkachuk

To Ottawa : (2021) 1ST-Round Pick, Dustin Wolf, Jakob Pelletier and Connor Mackey


1.) 18 Feb 2021 15:54:38
Why would Ottawa trade a young top 6 power forward?


2.) 18 Feb 2021 17:16:51
Lol why would Ottawa consider this.


3.) 19 Feb 2021 12:38:13
Because he's an RFA due for a big raise next year and Ottawa is cheap cheap cheap. But it won't happen yet. The Sens will step up this time and wait to trade Brady until he's about to become a UFA.


4.) 19 Feb 2021 16:31:07
I understand they're brothers, but why trade for Brady? Lw depth of gadreau Tkachuk and Tkachuk. Sounds nice, but pricey.


5.) 19 Feb 2021 19:30:07
@Monkeyful

Matthew can and has played RW for the Flames. Beyond that, if it were up to me, I'd trade Gaudreau for Brady or for a good RW to complement them.

It's all wishful thinking though. Not going to happen for sure not now maybe after his next contract expires but there will be lots of teams bidding if he is available.


6.) 22 Feb 2021 19:57:00
If Brady goes to Ottawa

Ottaw gets
Zary
Pelletier
Manigpane
Dube
2021 1st

But that still might not do it
Ottawa can offer better to get Matthew.


 

 

 

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02 Mar 2021 19:43:56
What if Johnny Gaudreau was 6’1 190lbs ? Do you guys think he’d be one of the Top 20 players in the league?


1.) 03 Mar 2021 01:55:32
Probably. his skill set and that size, he'd be a force.


2.) 03 Mar 2021 04:33:47
Doesn’t work like that. If Nathen Gerbe was 6 foot 2 with his skill set he’d be a top 5 player in the NHL but scientifically he wouldn’t have the same level as skill as his body would prohibit that.


3.) 03 Mar 2021 12:08:28
Elaborate Nylander? Hypothetical if he kept his skill level but just grows 4 inches, do you think he’d be a top player in the nhl. His size has nothing to do with his skill, but his size makes him overthink and scared to make plays or contact.


4.) 04 Mar 2021 18:07:20
I’d say no he’s been a real streaky player and Calgary is a dumpster fire.


 

 

01 Mar 2021 01:49:05
Build-Franchise-Player

Speed - Connor McDavid
Hands - Johnny Gaudreau
Vision - Sidney Crosby
Shot - Patrik Laine
Heart - Brendan Gallagher
Strength - Tom Wilson


How would you guys build a franchise player?


1.) 01 Mar 2021 12:52:13
Speed - McDavid
Hands - Datsyuk
Vision - Gretzky
Shot - Ovechkin

I feel heart and strength have too many variables to them to answer those.


2.) 01 Mar 2021 13:55:23
Laine over Ovie is a joke and probably Mathews too but Mathews has the has the best release in NHL but Laine has second to best 1 timer.


3.) 01 Mar 2021 23:14:42
@chirp oooh, datsyuk was a very good choice. I would’ve picked him but I tried to stay with current nhl players, datsyuk would’ve been my first choice for hands tho


4.) 02 Mar 2021 01:17:49
Elias Petterson/ Barkov/ Kane have 2x the hands of Guadreau.


5.) 02 Mar 2021 19:14:20
Gaudreau won puck control in the skills comp 2 years in a row now while nobody came close, so to say they have 2X the hands is an exaggeration


6.) 02 Mar 2021 19:39:29
Also you obviously don’t watch enough of Gaudreau, dude has some silky mitts. Wish Gaudreau was 6’1, he’d be a monster


 

 

18 Feb 2021 15:12:53
Three Lines I would really wanna see :


Miro Heiskanen - Cale Makar


Zach Hyman - Sam Bennett - Anthony Mantha


Matthew Tkachuk - Anthony Cirelli - Brady Tkachuk


1.) 18 Feb 2021 19:45:01
That line needs to be

Mt Robert Thomas be

That's a crazy ass young gun line.


2.) 19 Feb 2021 00:33:09
I’m personally a huge fan of Robert Thomas


3.) 19 Feb 2021 05:12:23
Slow start this year for some reason.


4.) 20 Feb 2021 20:42:01
Because he keeps coming on this forum and advocating for himself

How’s the thumb colt

Seems your gaming injury might kill your hockey career


 

 

15 Feb 2021 23:42:26
Joe Thornton - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner
Zach Hyman - John Tavares - William Nylander
Ilya Mikheyev - Alex Kerfoot - Wayne Simmonds
Jimmy Vesey - Jason Spezza - Alex Galchenyuk

Morgan Rielly - Tj Brodie
Jake Muzzin - Justin Holl
Travis Dermott - Zach Bogosian



Dude Toronto is fricking stacked, they have to be the cup favourites..:


1.) 16 Feb 2021 04:06:10
Please don’t bet on it though.


2.) 16 Feb 2021 04:50:20
Can Galchenyuk play fourth line? Maybe top 5-7 but not cup favourites in my eyes.


3.) 16 Feb 2021 09:05:54
No way! When you have jumbo joe on the first line, you can’t be cup favorite. Forget about cup favorite, there not even favorite in the east, check the flyers and Canes lines!


4.) 16 Feb 2021 14:30:34
Hard to say who is the favorites, with this odd year. on paper they look good, but T. B is still the best team wearing Blue and White.
Leafs are good, no doubt about that, but without any of the elite opponents, hard to tell. I know my Habs have looked really good, but how do they stack against the others.?, are they a contender ( as Winning Pct would suggest, or is that a mirage of whipping the Canucks for the first part of the season
. i'm kind of over this Canadian Division already. I can't beleive i'm going to say this. but I miss the Bruins! The games that is. still hate the buggers.!


5.) 16 Feb 2021 17:42:00
Toffoli turns into a god looking for revenge every game against the Canucks lol.


 

 

09 Feb 2021 19:30:09
Leafs fans, how would you guys feel if the Leafs traded Nylander for Mantha. I think it would be exactly what they need, a big skilled Top 6 power forward.


1.) 09 Feb 2021 21:10:17
I know as a Habs fan it would piss me off lol.


2.) 09 Feb 2021 23:30:49
As a Wings Fan, As good as Nylander is. I would prefer to keep Mantha.

He brings an extra big body goal scoring that we need and don’t have a replacement for. It’s easier to find a similar skilled passer to Nylander than finding a Power Forward like Mantha.

Well that’s a Wings Fan perspective.


3.) 09 Feb 2021 23:43:03
That’s not exactly what the leafs need the leafs need another Hyman. Mantha is a goal scorer and that’s the 1 thing the leafs absolutely don’t need. I like Mantha but he’s not a fit in the leafs. Wouldn’t move Nylander while the leafs are in 1st for anyone realistically.


4.) 10 Feb 2021 04:51:55
I’ll add to that the value is probably similar Nylander is the better player but Mantha has a rare set of Power forward tools that teams envy. I’m not sure what the contracts look like but I think Mantha has a higher cap hit.


5.) 11 Feb 2021 18:33:00
Another Hyman is exactly what the leafs need, preferably one that would fight if need be. I think it was topshelf that mentioned Foligno. He can play at both ends of the rink and will stand up for his team. He’s a UFA so I don’t think it would take a ton to get him if Columbus is out of the playoff race. If Columbus is in the hunt for a playoff spot, you absolutely do not trade Foligno.


6.) 14 Feb 2021 04:07:52
Toronto17 I agree


 

 

 

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06 Mar 2021 15:20:31
That’s very true, stanley has looked really good


 

 

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06 Mar 2021 04:56:44
I agree @memarcusjoe this would be a super good deal if other teams were interested which I’m sure there will be, but if Winnipeg was the only serious trading partner then I can see a deal involving a 1st and Stanley working out


 

 

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05 Mar 2021 18:27:52
@sampson the habs lent them $5


 

 

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05 Mar 2021 18:27:06
If I’m Detroit, I ain’t retaining Mantha’s contract.


 

 

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05 Mar 2021 18:25:05
I don’t mind it, but Winnipeg doesn’t have the cap space


 

 

 

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