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28 Feb 2021 18:46:02
Calgary trades:
Johnny Gaudreau
Sam Bennett

Philadelphia trades:
James Van Riemsdyk
Nolan Patrick

JVR is included to balance cap.
Philly moves both the youngest and oldest player in the trade. 22 and 31 vs 24 and 27 for Calgary.

Why Philly might do it:
Philly gets a player in Johnny they have significant interest in who really wants to play for them.
They move an older player who though he is having a good year is declining, is currently the highest paid player in the deal and on the longest contract.
They get the most skilled player in the deal.

Why Calgary should do it:
They get bigger.
They get a right shooting forward who can play center or wing (right shot RW being Calgary's most pressing need) .
If JVR continues to produce well his contract isn't all that bad and if he doesn't work out he can be bought out in a year or two.


The teams swap young centers capable of playing on the wing. Both are high picks who haven't met expectations. Patrick has been injury prone, Bennett has been inconsistent (poor in the regular seaons and great in the playoffs) . A change of scenery might be good for both players.

Calgary probably winds up with the better young player in the end but Gaudreau is still in his prime and a definite skill upgrade over a declining JVR.

MoxNix

1.) 28 Feb 2021 19:57:10
Bad for Calgary which is surprising. Patrick while a lot younger and better then Bennet is very injury prone and JVR is a complimentary piece.


2.) 28 Feb 2021 20:43:30
2 years isn't "a lot younger". Overall Philly actually gets younger by 2 years and Calgary 2 years older which again isn't a big difference.

Gaudreau is a complementary piece on the Flames and he's just going to sign with Philly in 1.5 years anyhow. This way Calgary gets something for him. A useful player in Patrick who could be either a top 6 winger or a 3rd line center right now and if he's over the injury bug still has the potential to be even better.

Bennett should fit right in Philly and might finally start approaching the potential everyone still sees in him.

Of course there's usually some risk involved for both teams in any good trade. Bennett and/ or Patrick might not be any better with new teams than they have been with their existing teams. Philly might not be big enough and mean enough to make more room for Johnny (I think they are though) . And JVR might drop off badly (I think he'll be ok for at least the rest of this year) . On the other hand it could work out very well for both teams and all the players involved.


3.) 28 Feb 2021 20:55:58
Besides my initial thought was adding a Philly 2nd round pick or something to the deal. But with the way people are around here once they figure which team is your team they pretty much always without fail shoot down anything you propose for your team as too much. ;)


4.) 28 Feb 2021 22:08:59
No from Calgary


 

 

26 Feb 2021 17:40:23
Calgary trades:
Milan Lucic (2.5 mil retained)
And?

Boston trades:
Brandon Carlo

I believe Lucic would waive his NMC to go back to Boston and Boston just might take him back if they only have to pay 2-3 mil of his salary. Edmonton is already paying 750k, leaving 5.25 mil. With Calgary retaining 2.5 that'd leave 2.75 mil.

Carlo makes 2.85 mil and is an RFA after this season. There's no doubt Calgary would have to add something to make it happen but the teams have talked about Carlo before.

I doubt the Bruins would be very interested in picks or prospects, it'd probably take a roster player, likely a defenseman. Kylington or Nesterov shouldn't be a problem but if the Bruins want a Hanifin or Valimaki the Bruins would have to add more too.

The question is what else would Calgary have to add to make it happen?

MoxNix

1.) 26 Feb 2021 17:55:18
Guadreau for Carlo straight up would be fair. Carlo large premium 6 foot 5 shut down dman. He’s basically Colten Paryanko with less speed and a little worse shot. Guadreaus contract hurts his value being a UFA in 1.5 years.


2.) 26 Feb 2021 18:46:07
@Nylander you really think Carlo has the same value as Gaudreau?


3.) 26 Feb 2021 21:08:07
I do think so he’s a young physical cheap big mobile cost controlled shut down dman. Those are rare to find. I’d say his value is abit higher then Rasmus Andersson although I think those 2 and Lindell on Dallas in the same tier. Maybe just below the Brodin/ Pesce tier.


4.) 26 Feb 2021 23:25:18
Didn’t the GM say they’d trade Pastrnak before they’d ever think of trading Carlo?


5.) 27 Feb 2021 00:50:17
I’ll admit he’s off to a good start this season but I mean a 2.5M Lucic is not worth very much if anything. Would have to be a fairly significant piece to get Carlo.


6.) 27 Feb 2021 14:34:07
@Ebsolutely No argument there. I'm just wondering what adds others here think it would take.


7.) 27 Feb 2021 20:32:24
I believe the add is hanifin. That's who Boston likes. But with lucic, if Boston sees no value, then you're paying them to take the contract. So the add becomes quite big.


8.) 05 Mar 2021 02:21:58
Well you’d have to add Tkachuk to get Carlo and get rid of Lucic.
Carlo is 23/ 24 top 4 dman on a top defensive team, leads team in pk, right hand shot.

You must not watch much hockey outside of Calgary to even suggest this trade.


 

 

17 Feb 2021 21:31:26
Lotta crazy trade suggestions from Leafies wanting Sam Bennett from Calgary. Trades have to make sense for both teams and none of the proposals make any sense for Calgary.

Here's one that does.

Toronto trades:
Zach Hyman
2nd round pick

Calgary trades:
Sam Bennett

- Cap hit is equitable with Bennett making 300k more.
- Bennett is 4 years younger
- Bennett has more upside potential
- Bennett is a center who can also play either wing.
- Hyman isn't a center but can play either wing.
- Both are currently playing on the 2nd line
but Hyman is a right shot playing LW and Bennett a left shot playing RW.
- Bennett is an RFA after this season.
- Hyman is a UFA after this season.

They'd basically take each other's spot in the lineup, putting a left shot at LW in Toronto and a right shot at RW in Calgary.

MoxNix

1.) 17 Feb 2021 22:21:07
It’s fair


2.) 17 Feb 2021 22:42:25
Hyman is the last player they would trade outside the big 3F. They’re looking for more intense, responsible forwards that are harder to play against. Hyman is the best we have at that. This is counter productive.


3.) 17 Feb 2021 22:44:32
Bad trade for Toronto. Hyman is the superior player of the two. Hyman plays all areas well. Not sure why the 2nd round pick is there.


4.) 17 Feb 2021 22:44:41
Toronto is not adding to Hyman for Bennett. If anything Calgary is adding a third on Bennet for Hyman.


5.) 17 Feb 2021 22:46:47
I can see a 1 for 1 but not a 2nd too.


6.) 18 Feb 2021 01:12:31
I believe the values are really close, but Toronto would be silly to do this trade.

Hyman is consistent, has chemistry with both top lines, and will probably be a leaf forever. Don't trade for bennett right now, if flames inconsistency has them out of playoffs at deadline, try to get him. Maybe a bit cheaper. If he goes elsewhere, great.

At deadline, kerfoot and a pick for bennett (unless kerfoot becomes solid) .


 

 

06 Feb 2021 21:40:41
Probably never happen but here's a blockbuster that would help both teams.

Calgary trades:
Mark Giordano and
Sam Bennett

Toronto trades:
William Nylander and
Ilya Mikheyev

Salary evens out pretty good
Bennett and Nylander both go home
Toronto fixes their defense
Calgary gets a top 6 RW and another RW who's good on the PK.

MoxNix

1.) 07 Feb 2021 02:37:13
No LOL. Toronto already took the flames best D in brodie. if Gio was 5 years younger maybe . no deal.


2.) 07 Feb 2021 03:38:05
2 years of a 37 year old Giordano for Nylander? That would be a no from Toronto.


3.) 07 Feb 2021 11:39:20
Gio has been terrible this year and is too old. No deal


4.) 07 Feb 2021 20:12:11
Lol@ jerkbait. Brodie best flames dman? Lol.


5.) 07 Feb 2021 21:46:44
Easily. brodie been a fabulous partner for MR and on most nights is the leafs best all round D. Great pick up by leafs. The flames best D is tanev and he was signed as a free agent .


6.) 07 Feb 2021 22:14:15
If I’m trading Nylander ( which I wouldn’t because the leafs are playing amazing) Rasmus Anderson would absolutely need to be included there is no other way I’d move Nylander to flames. ( Obviously Tkachuk isn’t a realistic ask ) .


7.) 08 Feb 2021 04:07:20
Nylander is right, the most realistic piece would be Andersson but I don’t think Flames part with him at all.


8.) 09 Feb 2021 21:41:17
Nylander for Andersson?

A 2nd line winger with a reputation for being lazy doesn't get you a young top pairing defenseman who's still improving and on a very team friendly contract? Not even close.


 

 

11 Jan 2021 23:11:22
Minnesota: Matt Dumba

for

Winnipeg: Patrick Laine

A couple overrated players being shopped by their respective teams with absurd asks change places.

Winnipeg gets the right shot D they want and Minnesota gets a goal scoring forward they can use.

Both are on expiring contracts (RFAs after this year) with salaries in the same ballpark.

The only problem is both teams will like want more in return.

MoxNix

1.) 12 Jan 2021 03:43:20
I made a mistake about Dumba's contract, he actually has 3 years left and becomes a UFA when it's over.


2.) 12 Jan 2021 04:31:13
Easy no from Winnipeg and very poor knowledge of player values shown by the poster. Not surprisingly.


3.) 12 Jan 2021 05:36:49
Give it a rest with the insults Marcus. Every player in Winnipeg isn't a superstar no matter how much you keep insisting they are.


4.) 12 Jan 2021 13:49:01
Laine has high trade value whether you like it or not. He's actually pretty good and I'm not a Jets fan.


5.) 12 Jan 2021 14:01:15
Laine only wants to go to socal. He isn't interested in winning a up just getting paid and being on the coast.


6.) 12 Jan 2021 14:33:09
This is a trade proposal that the Jets would never do.


7.) 12 Jan 2021 18:09:27
Hopefully the Jets hang on to Laine. he's what a 22 year old kid? He's not mentally mature, but that will come, but seriously he's a kid. once he matures as a person, look out. sky is the limit.


8.) 12 Jan 2021 21:56:53
Laine for dumba and Fiala is closer.


9.) 13 Jan 2021 18:58:36
@Monkeyful

If Laine was signed to a longer term contract with a reasonable cap hit sure. But he isn't and if he was the Jets wouldn't be shopping him.


 

 

 

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05 Mar 2021 19:15:14
Detroit won't trade Mantha @50% retained.

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05 Mar 2021 01:09:21
Winnipeg doesn't have anywhere near the cap space they'd need to take on Eichel. Dubois is younger, gets half the salary and could very well end up the better player too.

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04 Mar 2021 14:43:23
CorsicaHockey ranks Eichel the number 9 center in the league. IMO even that is a little high.

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04 Mar 2021 14:37:45
Eichel is not equal to Matthews.

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04 Mar 2021 14:24:41
I don't think the Habs will be trading Romanov.

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