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31 May 2021 05:22:08
Apparently Seth Jones has informed Columbus that he will not be resigning with them next year. They need a center badly.

Calgary trades:

Sean Monahan
Johnny Gaudreau

Columbus trades:

Seth Jones
Oliver Bjorkstrand

Columbus gets linemates to play with Laine on the first line. Calgary gets a really good shutdown defenseman and the top 6 RW they've been lacking for years.

MoxNix

1.) 31 May 2021 06:00:50
Bjorkstrand plays 1st line Laine plays 2nd. No way Bjorkstrand is moved. Guadreau also wouldn’t resign in Columbus. Also Columbus won’t be interested in any player over 23 in their rebuild.

Jones for Mangiapane, Valimaki and 1st 2022.


2.) 31 May 2021 09:47:59
@nylander I like that deal way better. Mangiapane would be a significant loss imo but Jones on the top pair with Gio would be fire.

Giordano - Jones
Hanifin - Tanev
Mackey - Andersson

Solid af.


3.) 31 May 2021 14:34:37
I dunno. Mangiapane is one of those guys who just keeps improving, getting better and better year after year.

He's already exceeded expectations from when he was drafted by a lot. If he hit his ceiling this year it's a fair trade but if he takes another step again next year it's a terrible trade for Calgary.

With that in mind, Calgary should keep Mangiapane.


4.) 31 May 2021 16:33:43
You have to give to get @Moxnix if the deal you make doesn’t hurt chances are it’s not fair for the other team. Sure Guadreau and Monahan are two solid peices but their is absolutely no reason why Columbus would want either of them considering they are a bottom feeding team even with

Mangiapane, Valamki and 1st for Jones

You’re giving a top 6 wing, a struggling but highly touted prospect and 1st for a bonafide number 1 dman. You have to beat every other teams offer and every competitive team in the NHL would put in a offer for him.


5.) 31 May 2021 19:02:38
When a player wants out and says he won't resign, the team has to take what they can get for him or wind up with nothing. Plus no team is going to offer much unless they can talk to Jones first to make certain he will sign with them.

Trading Valimaki, a first and something else no probably, but making Mangiapane the something else would be a mistake. If Mangy plateaus where he is now and stays at that level then it'd be ok but not if he takes another step.


6.) 31 May 2021 21:16:26
That was supposed to be "no problem", rather than "no probably".


7.) 31 May 2021 21:28:14
If Jones resigns he’s a franchise player and you take that and run. That’s the most highly sought after position in hockey. I’m sure the leafs out but that offer as a RHD would be a massive add.


 

 

15 May 2021 23:06:07
Jack Eichel
Jeff Skinner

for

Auston Matthews
Mitch Marner

After all what would Matthews be without Marner and vice versa.

What do you think @Nylander, how many firsts does Toronto add? 5? not enough? How about 10?

MoxNix

1.) 16 May 2021 05:53:56
Both teams decline Skinner is awful but Eichel is better then both players. Eichel=Eric Lindros.


2.) 16 May 2021 11:18:07
Matthews > Eichel
Marner >>> Skinner


3.) 16 May 2021 12:56:48
I'd say Eichel is somewhere between Eric Lindros and Alexander Daigle.


4.) 16 May 2021 15:29:53
Nylander, Eichel hasn't done enough to justify be rated better than either Marner or Matthews. Could he be? Absolutely. His diac in his neck is going to be a huge hindrance on him. So we may never find out.


5.) 16 May 2021 15:42:38
I dissagree with his injury it can be corrected through surgery it’s also not something that reoccurs. That injury happens to a lot of QBs in the NFL. They all return fine.


6.) 17 May 2021 01:49:11
Eichel's true value can be summed up by his effect on other players.

Taylor Hall stats GP G A P PM +/ -

2020-21 Buffalo Sabres NHL 37 2 17 19 24 -21
2020-21 Boston Bruins NHL 16 8 6 14 2 15


That's playing with the supposedly great Eichel vs playing with Krejki.


7.) 17 May 2021 02:51:33
There’s this thing in life called chemistry and Hall/ Eichel had none.


 

 

12 May 2021 22:32:23
Not that I want to see him in Calgary but since Jack Eichel trades seem to be FoTM now here's mine:

Johnny Gaudreau
Sean Monahan
2022 1st round pick

for

Jack Eichel
Sam Reinhart
2022 4th round pick

Both teams get the shakeup they need with Buffalo gaining a 1st round pick and just over $2 mil in cap flexibility.

MoxNix

1.) 13 May 2021 04:28:50
Take out Eichel and it’s closer lmao

Try

Tkachuk
Lindholm
Valimaki
1st
For
Jack Echel.


2.) 13 May 2021 08:03:17
@nylander that’s such an overpayment... don’t got to be a Calgary fan to see it. Dumbest proposal I’ve ever seen


3.) 13 May 2021 14:29:50
Value wise it’s not bad @Moxnix. To make it happen Gaudreau would need to sign an extension (so he’s not a one season rental), which I don’t see him wanting to be on Buffalo.
For that reason it wouldn’t happen.


4.) 13 May 2021 15:30:12
Eichel is a franchise C whens the last time one has been traded? Eric Lindros? Yeah that’s not going to cut it for the hardest position to find. A 24 year old franchise altering centre locked up for 5 more years is going to take a lot more then that. Rangers and LA both beat that offer without hesitation.

Also why would a rebuilding team want Guadreau and Monahan they are not competitive they want draft capital and blue chip prospects back. Just very biased towards Calgary and not taking Buffalos needs into consideration.


5.) 13 May 2021 16:43:33
@Nylander the problem for Buffalo is a) Eichel is injured, b) he doesn’t want to stay and c) he has never had a winning season (just a stat guy)

All those things decrease Eichels value. He’s not a player a GM should sell the farm for.


6.) 13 May 2021 17:32:52
That still doesn’t take away the fact every team in the NHL beats that offer.


7.) 14 May 2021 00:09:28
I guess we’ll wait and see.
I’m betting he goes for around 4 firsts. Guarantee Laf or any player of his caliber is not included. Best they will get is Byfield + from LA and Kakko + from NY.


8.) 14 May 2021 02:57:13
@Websjac 4 firsts is probably too much, unless it's a powerhouse team that expects to picking near the end of the draft for the next 3 or 4 years. But those teams don't often have the cap space to take on a contract like Eichel's even more so in these flat cap times.

I don't think Buffalo wants to start the rebuild all over again. I expect they'll trade him for the best player (or two) back they can. Maybe add a pick/ prospect or two but not all picks or even picks and prospects unless they're elite prospects.


9.) 14 May 2021 03:30:34
Those are both solid bases I agree.


10.) 14 May 2021 07:03:13
MoxNix
Tampa Bay: Alex Killhorn, Yanni Gourde, Tyler Johnson, Cal Foote, 2nd 2021, 1st 2023, 1st 2024 and 1st 2025

Buffalo: Eichel

Gives the Bolts 5 million extra in cap space. Spezza, Thortan and Simmonds combine for about half that.

Any team in the NHL could make room for Eichel and would out bid that offer you proposed.


11.) 14 May 2021 19:45:55
@Nylander Buffalo turns that one down for sure.

Three older somewhat overpaid forwards and a 7th defenseman. Yeah right, taking on that bunch would actually up the cost in picks. The four picks (which are going to be very late) should be enough by themselves though it'd be better if Buffalo can get 2 or 3 higher picks from another team.

Better yet if they can get a good center back, maybe a decent winger and a pick or two. How many picks/ prospects and how good they are would depend on who the player (s) they're getting are.


 

 

09 May 2021 16:56:23
Calgary trades:
Johnny Gaudreau

Columbus trades:
Oliver Bjorkstrand

Yeah, Bjorkstrand is younger, signed for less money and for a lot longer. Columbus goes for it anyhow because Jarmo won't be able to resist getting a LW with Gaudreau's skill set to play with Laine.

With Torts out as coach and Laine's biggest fan as GM in Columbus Laine will resign with Columbus.

Calgary finally gets the top 6 right shot RW they've needed for so long.

MoxNix

1.) 09 May 2021 17:59:04
Columbus laughs. Just because a GM is Finnish doesn’t mean he likes every Finnish player. He passed over Puljujarvi to draft PLD. The bluejackets are a bottom feeder team that is interested in rebuilding. Laine, Jones and Werenski all get moved before Bjorkstrand he is the young core untouchable player. Laine and Werenski are definitely going to be traded at some point and you got to think Jones goes to a contender as a UFA.


2.) 09 May 2021 18:10:21
I didn’t really agree with anything @nylander said. I don’t think flames do this @moxnix.


3.) 09 May 2021 20:28:10
I don't agree with you there Casual. The Flames would do it with Gaudreau being a rental, but the Jackets wouldn't for the same reason.


4.) 09 May 2021 21:09:08
@ MoxNix. Clearly you have no idea who Oliver Bjorkstrand is. He’s the top line RW on Columbus and is a fan favourite. He’s on par with Nylander/ Ehlers/ Konecny. Young player that’s a part of a rebuilding team. Columbus doesn’t have a 1c nor anyone to set up laine. Laine can’t generate any offense himself. He needs a playmaker/ play driver on his line to do all the work to put in the puck and without that Laines value just gets lower. Staying in Columbus only hurts the team and Laines next contract. Do you really think Jones is going to resign on a weak rebuilding team with no recognizable prospects coming up? Probably not I’d wager but not impossible. Also if you haven’t been living under a rock it’s known that Zach Werenski will be heading to Detroit once he reaches UFA status. That’s known around the league.


5.) 09 May 2021 22:33:35
Meant to tag NotACasual.


6.) 10 May 2021 01:46:17
@NotACasual I don't think anyone agrees with most of what that guy says. ;)


7.) 10 May 2021 20:44:02
I know sometimes GM’s say one thing and do another. However, Kekalainen has it’s “self explanatory” that Laine will be back. Nylander probably has a better source though.


8.) 11 May 2021 15:13:57
Same thing was said about Subban by Bergevan.


 

 

01 May 2021 16:39:01
Calgary trades:
Mikeal Backlund
2nd round pick

Montreal trades:
Tyler Toffoli

Both teams would be trading a player in a position of strength for a player to shore up the team where it's weakest.

Montreal's biggest problem is inexperience at center. Their centers aren't strong defensively and lose a lot of faceoffs too. Backlund gives them an experienced two way center who's very good defensively and strong on faceoffs.

Calgary's biggest problem is lack of top 6 scoring right shot RW. Toffoli provides that. Josh Anderson would work too.

Calgary adds a second because Backlund is older. The money is close enough with Toffoli making a bit less than Backlund and Anderson making a bit more.

MoxNix

1.) 01 May 2021 17:54:04
Absolutely no from Habs
I don't expect Toffoli to score at this pace next season, however, I see 25 to 30 . he's on a really good contract. i'd rather see Poehling get another chance to be a good 2 way Center than trade away Toffoli.

Also, Anderson won't be available either. Players like him don't really come around much anymore.
The only way either of those guys get moved, is in some sort of a package to bring in a true difference maker. like an Eichel or something on those lines. ( which i don't see happening)


2.) 01 May 2021 18:26:20
Montreal doesn’t need another 2nd/ 3rd line center they have 3 of those already. they definitely are not going to trade their leading goals and points leader for another one.


3.) 01 May 2021 18:37:49
The hab should make a pitch for Gaudreau or Monahan! They need raw talent, they have less talents then the leafs.


4.) 01 May 2021 19:12:50
I like that idea Barrie. Gaudreau to Habs during the offseason makes perfect sense to me for both teams. I think somewhere around Poehling, a 1st and a future 2nd gets it done.


5.) 01 May 2021 19:15:26
As for this trade, it’s not even close. Since when do you trade your best player (at least who’s playing like it) for a role player. Montreal is going to be in win-now mode next year.


6.) 01 May 2021 20:12:31
I think Barrie is Montreal’s finnest he was very familiar with Barrie in the fantasy league and I think he decided to make this a burner account to troll on I’d bet money on it.

Also nice job completely destroying the Habs in this trade. Toffoli has been great and they already have a better 2 way centre in Danault. The Canadians laugh.


7.) 01 May 2021 20:35:45
“Less talents than the leafs” from an oilers fan, lol. Have you ever looked at your own profile Barrie? You’re obsessed with the leafs, even when the conversation is not about them. Remind me please what your previous username was.


8.) 01 May 2021 20:46:03
@sosahabs24

Ordinarily I'd agree with most of the responses here and your's especially. However this trade makes sense for a lot of reasons. Both teams would be trading from a position of strength to shore up their biggest weakness.


Calgary needs a right shot RW. Montreal with Gallagher, Anderson and Toffoli has an enviable surplus at RW Any of the 3 players would be in the top 6 on most teams and on the first line on many teams (including Calgary) .

Montreal has a couple very young inexperienced centers on the top two lines who aren't very good defensively and lose a lot of faceoffs. Calgary is pretty strong at center with Lindholm, Monahan and Backlund. They could really use a good two way center like Backlund who's strong defensively, very good on faceoffs and could cover those deficiencies for 2-3 years while the young guys gain experience.

I chose Toffoli because I really don't see Montreal moving Gallagher, their spark plug and best player for several years now. Considering they traded more than expected to get Anderson and then signed him to fairly big long term contract *before signing Toffoli to a short term value contract, it's obvious they valued Anderson quite a bit more than Toffoli (I think they still do now) .

Others mentioned Gaudreau or Monahan.

If it was up to me I'd trade Gaudreau straight up for any of Montreal's top 3 right wingers but I don't think Treliving would. I don't see Montreal being very interested in Gaudreau anyhow, especially not with him being a UFA after next year.

Monahan I'd keep unless I'm getting a good center back. If the center coming back is better I'd add, if Monahan is the better center, I'd want the other team to add (preferably a right shot RW) .


9.) 01 May 2021 20:53:38
I was thinking Barrie is FairTrade4All Nylander, but you might be right. Barrie and Balsam are the two biggest trolls on this site.


10.) 02 May 2021 05:59:52
Moxnix. I see your point, however if Montreal was going to trade one of those guys to improve the center position, I don't see Backlund being that guy they would want. he is in the wrong side of 30, I think Habby said it best, that Habs don't need another 2/ 3 line center. I personally see Backlund as a 3rd at this stage in his career.

I just don't see trading either Toffoli or Anderson to Calgary for Backlund as an improvement for Montreal . I see it as a step backwards. Sorry buddy. I got to disagree with ya in this one.


11.) 02 May 2021 09:07:56
I agree that Montreal needs a center but not Backlund. We need production. Someone who is a lock for 50-60+ point minimum.


12.) 02 May 2021 12:27:56
Huge no from Montreal


13.) 02 May 2021 16:16:43
MoxNix have you never watched the Canadians?

Nick Suzuki will be 1C next year

Jesperi Kotekneimi will be 2C he needs time to develop and imo next year will be a break out for him.

Philip Danault ( if resigned ) is a far better shutdown centre then Backlunf as 3C

Backlund would be a huge overkill at 4C especially when they have a young defensively competent 4C in Pohling.


14.) 02 May 2021 17:11:34
@Nylander Many times, have you ever watched the Flames?

Backlund is a solid 45-50 points every year (over a full year) playing as a shutdown center. He's a proven 2nd line center. This year with 27 points playing on the 3rd line he has more points than every center on the Canadians except Suzuki who has 6 more points playing on the first line.

Suziki may be a true 1C eventually but he isn't there yet. Kotkaniemi may be a true 2C eventually but he isn't there yet either.

Philip Danault is all right as 3C but he's not better than Backlund.

Poehling can't even make the Canadians in spite of how weak they are at center. He's older than both Suziki and Kotkaniemi too.


15.) 02 May 2021 19:25:58
Okay so even if Backlund is a slight upgrade on Danault which is certainly debatable but I’m sure habs fans will disagree ( I’m almost certain Danault has received selke votes last year) . Backlands not playing 1st line C over Suzuki, he’s not taking 2nd line minutes from a 21 year old player being groomed to be a 1c. Instead of giving there top goal scorer away for a 3C when they already have a top 5 3C in the game they can just resign Danault for free. I’m teaching you this cool thing called logic and you’re welcome for that.


 

 

 

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26 Apr 2021 04:19:44
Calgary needs a top 6 goal scoring right shot RW, it's been their biggest weakness for years now. Calgary is strong at center and very strong at LW.

Montreal with Toffoli, Anderson and Galagher is very strong at RW but weak at LW and inexperienced at center.

Gallagher would certainly be a nogo but Montreal might part with Toffoli or Anderson if they get a LW or center back.

Possible players from Calgary would be Backlund
Monahan
Gaudreau

Possible players from Montreal would be
Toffoli
Anderson

Obviously with Backlund, Calgary would need to add but he might be a perfect fit with the Habs for a couple years while their two young centers gain experience.

Monahan would give them an experienced top 6 center and Gaudreau would instantly be the Habs most skilled LW and best playmaker.

Personally I'd prefer Gaudreau be the player heading to Montreal but what do you think?

Which RW might Montreal trade, which of the Calgary players named above would they want back, which team adds and what would the add need to be?

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14 Jun 2021 08:27:49
Hall would be a good fit in Montreal but he'll get lots of offers for more than 5.5 per year. At the very least Montreal will have to step up and offer more than Boston does.

The Habs are strong at RW. Caufield looks like he's going to be a top 6 LW, Hall would give them another. Caufield with Suzuki and Toffoli, Hall with Kotkaniemi and Anderson or Gallagher sounds pretty good.

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13 Jun 2021 16:19:32
No from Calgary. Eichel is damaged goods and Calgary doesn't need his me first attitude in the room either.

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11 Jun 2021 00:51:19
@Toronto17 I agree with most of your points.

That's pretty much exactly how Flames fans view Gaudreau. Yes he's a very talented player but he's soft, avoids contact and that doesn't work in the playoffs.

If we're going to trade Gaudreau we want someone fairly talented and a whole lot grittier coming back. Not another highly skilled but soft player, especially not one making > $4 million more than he does.

Also Nylander was pretty good in this year's playoffs. It would be foolish to trade him now.

But hey if Toronto fans insist. Gaudreau for Nylander sounds a heck of lot better now than it did at the start of this season. :)

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10 Jun 2021 17:50:40
Calgary isn't selling or rebuilding. They're retooling.

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10 Jun 2021 15:49:08
Marner is overpaid. WAY overpaid. No way Calgary takes on that contract.

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