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30 Aug 2021 04:34:53
To Calgary:
2022 first round pick
Kotkaniemi (with offer sheet matched)

To Montreal:
Sean Monahan

Montreal gets out of a bind with the offer sheet on KK.

Calgary gets.


1.) 30 Aug 2021 05:09:39
Accidently posted. I was working on a post when I realized it wouldn't work, went to cancel and hit the post button.

2.) 30 Aug 2021 15:33:24
I’d do it.

3.) 30 Aug 2021 16:07:39
This transaction is impossible under league rules.

KK can't be traded by ANYONE this year, either by the team that offer-sheeted him, or by the Habs if they matched.

4.) 31 Aug 2021 21:29:40
I this were legal you don’t trade a 21 year old 3rd overall pick who’s looking like a 2c for someone like Monahan or Ryan Strome.

5.) 01 Sep 2021 04:29:11
they just have to trade the right b4 matched then cgy matched.

6.) 01 Sep 2021 15:40:23
GIS1838: under the CBA the only two teams KK can possibly play for this year are CAR or MTL.



28 Aug 2021 03:18:49
Spotted this in of all places Sportsnet reader comments.

Vancouver trades:


Buffalo trades:


Sounds about right to me.


1.) 28 Aug 2021 03:29:56
I honestly value Pettersson higher than Eichel at the moment, Boeser is obviously way better than Skinner, Dahlin is better than Hughes. Skinner is what makes Vancouver say no. They don’t have even close to enough cap space for him.

2.) 28 Aug 2021 06:13:09
I value Pettersson quite a bit less than most do. He has talent but he doesn't have the size or strength to be elite. If he puts on at least 25 pounds of muscle he'll prove me wrong but I don't think he can do it. He doesn't have the 11th Commandment (thou shalt not touch Gretzky) or Dave Semenko protecting him either.

I think Eichel is vastly overrated. Healthy I'd value him a bit more than Pettersson. Right now I value him less.

Dahlin is far better than Hughes.

Boeser is much better than Skinner though it might be closer than you think. I wouldn't be surprised if Skinner with another team rebounds to be a player you can count on for around 25 goals / 50 points again. That'd even up the point production but Boeser still comes out ahead because he's bigger younger and his plus/ minus is far better.

3.) 28 Aug 2021 06:24:04
Vancouver has a good laugh.

4.) 28 Aug 2021 12:27:20
Take out Skinner and it’s closer. He brings Buffalos package down.
Peterson and Eichel are close (both top 20 players), but I’d take Eichel if both were 100%.
Dahlin >> Hughes. Dahlins much better 2-way whereas Hughes is offensively gifted but a defensive liability.
Boeser would be too much to fill in the difference, but a 1st from Vancouver would get it done.

5.) 28 Aug 2021 14:34:39
A healthy Eichel is a top 5 centre in the game.

6.) 28 Aug 2021 14:57:07
Omg Vancouver would be foolish to do this.

7.) 30 Aug 2021 16:23:09
I agree with the Bossman and Websac.




20 Aug 2021 21:19:09
St Louis trades:
Vladimir Tarasenko
0.5625M retained

Calgary trades:
Sean Monahan

Both players are former 30 goal scorers coming off a couple down years due to injury. Both players are being shopped by their teams. Both players have 2 years left on their current contracts. Salary retention on Tarasenko evens out the cap hit for both teams.


1.) 21 Aug 2021 03:28:18
I’d rather Monahan.

2.) 21 Aug 2021 05:07:05
Me too but it's looking like Treliving really wants to move Monahan and is about to do something really stupid. In that case I'd prefer taking a chance on Tarasenko returning to form over selling low on Monahan.

3.) 22 Aug 2021 00:11:00
@Moxnix, I understand your reasoning behind why this would be a deal.

I just recall hearing rumours that Tarasenko hasn’t been moved due to his shoulder issues. So his value has taken a big hit due to his injury.

So Monahan likely would be best moved elsewhere for someone in need of a Centre.

4.) 24 Aug 2021 22:23:49
No he hasn't been moved cause the right trade hasn't presented it self lol.



11 Aug 2021 01:56:12
Since the rumors aren't going away let's talk about Eichel to Calgary and what it might cost. The reported price tag for Eichel right now is the equivalent of four first round picks, which for Calgary would be something like:

Buffalo trades:
Jack Eichel

Calgary trades:
Sean Monahan
Dillon Dube
2023 first round pick
One of Matthew Coronato, Connor Zary, Jakob Pelletier or Juuso Valimaki

That's too much for player with a serious injury who may never be the same again. The price would have to come down or there would have to be conditions based on Eichel's recovery after surgery and return to form (or not) post surgery.

I think Monahan and Dube up front with no conditions is reasonable but Calgary's 2023 pick would need to be conditional on Eichel's injury recovery and performance in 2021-22 and the 3rd player/ prospect should be balanced by a conditional pick coming back from the Sabres in 2023 (a late pick if he performs like an elite center, an earlier pick if he doesn't, how late or early depending on just how good or bad he is) .

What do you think?


1.) 11 Aug 2021 03:37:28
Buffalo counters with

Sean Monahan (flip)
2022 First Round Selection
Juuso Valimaki
Connor Zary
Dustin Wolf.

2.) 11 Aug 2021 12:57:58
I see Monahan getting atleast a 1st and good prospect, so essentially Buffalo would be getting 2 1st’s, A-/ B+ prospect, Valimaki, Zary, Wolf. I mean who wouldn’t take that.

3.) 11 Aug 2021 13:59:57
I don't think Buffalo would flip Monahan, at least not this year.

Buffalo is well under the cap floor now (around 12 mil under IIRC) and that's with Eichel's 10 mil per year still on the books. They do have a few RFAs to resign to get closer but I they'll need more contracts just to get to the floor, Monahan's will help with that.

The rest of your proposal looks good except there are no conditions?

4.) 11 Aug 2021 19:50:54
To Calgary: Eichel

To Buffalo: Monahan, Backlund, 2023 1st and lesser prospect (Zavgrodny/Petterson/Mackey)

5.) 11 Aug 2021 21:08:35
@greatscottcgy that’s horrible for Buffalo



01 Aug 2021 21:39:25
Calgary trades:
Johnny Gaudreau

Toronto trades:
Morgan Reilly

Both players are 27 years old and become UFAs after the 2021-22 season.

Toronto likely isn't on Johnny's 5 team list of teams he can be traded to but I think he'd waive for them if and when it becomes obvious he's not going to get extended with Calgary.

Calgary could retain salary and/ or take a depth player (Engvall maybe) to balance the $1.75 million difference in cap hit.

Toronto's offense gets even better and Calgary gets a replacement for Gio.

Calgary would need to find another top 6 winger preferably a right shot RW but they've needed a good right shot RW for years already anyhow.

Many Toronto fans seem to think Sandin is ready to replace Reilly now. I'm skeptical of that but if they're right Toronto already has Reilly's replacement.


1.) 01 Aug 2021 22:21:20
I’d rather keep Rielly.

2.) 02 Aug 2021 11:49:27
Gaudreau > Rielly.

3.) 02 Aug 2021 17:17:46
@NotACasual Gaudreau is more skilled but IMO trade value is close.

Treliving probably wouldn't do it anyhow. He'll wind up either badly overpaying Gaudreau or losing him in a year's time and getting nothing or next to nothing back in return.

4.) 02 Aug 2021 17:49:30
Elite winger=2nd pairing dman.

Rielly is a low end number 1 dman. He’s among the top 32 best dman in the game.

5.) 03 Aug 2021 02:14:52
@moxnix we already have troubles scoring goals, so giving up our best offensive forward isn’t a good idea.




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08 Aug 2021 11:00:19
HockeyBuzz says Gaudreau trade talk picked up again yesterday with the following teams interested in him

NY Islanders
Montreal Canadiens
LA Kings
Ottawa Senators
Minnesota Wild

I'm very skeptical of that list, Montreal and Ottawa have a player they might be willing to trade that Calgary would be interested in but the others don't really have what Calgary would be looking for in return.

Calgary's biggest need is a top 6 right shot RW.

Montreal has 3 of those in Toffoli, Anderson and Gallagher. I can't see Montreal trading Gallagher, he's been a core player for them for years now. After the year Toffoli just had and the chemistry he has with Suziki and Caufield I can't see them trading him either. That leaves Anderson, a player the Flames tried to trade for before who happens to be a Sutter type player too, big fast and physical.

Ottawa won't want to trade Batherson but after the chemistry Connor Brown showed with Mangiapane at the Worlds this year, Calgary should be interested in him if Ottawa is willing to trade him.

I'm a little skeptical of Ottawa being interested in Gaudreau because they already have Brady Tkachuk and Tim Stutzle at LW. Unless they want to play Stutzle at center which apparently he can play.

The Isles are probably the only one of those teams that is on Johnny's list of 5 teams he can be traded to. However if he isn't getting extended in Calgary I believe he'd waive for Montreal or Ottawa because it gets him closer to where he calls home if negotiations don't work out the way he wants there either. I doubt he'd waive for Minnisota or LA unless they offered him a pile of money first.


1.) 08 Aug 2021 12:18:56
Hockeybuzz sucks.

2.) 09 Aug 2021 01:37:07
I don’t think I would trade Anderson for Gaudreau. Habs need Anderson style player more than Gaudreau type.
More size and toughness and more grit. Anderson can also score goals in the tough areas.

3.) 09 Aug 2021 03:26:47
Muzza01. I agree 100%.

4.) 09 Aug 2021 04:48:17
@muzza01 I’m a flames fan but I 100% agree, Gaudreau is very good offensively but he’s not the type of player they need.

5.) 10 Aug 2021 03:18:39
Thank guys.
I think Gaudreau is a great offensive player. But he plays to much of a finesse game.
Where as Anderson is the player the Habs needed for a long time. Wish they would have signed Perry for another season or two.

6.) 10 Aug 2021 14:13:51
LMAO really MoxNix. Hockeybuzz? Usually what Eklund reports is the exact opposite of what actually happens.

7.) 10 Aug 2021 19:33:41
Muzza. I was really disappointed when Habs didn't get Perry back.

8.) 12 Aug 2021 04:32:26
Same here Sosahabs24. Very disappointed in Habs not signing Perry. I thought he played very well with the Habs. He was the exact kind of player they needed and lacked for so long. Having Anderson and Perry was great for the Habs. Adding size, toughness, and grit. Perry wealth of experience and a cup winner.



21 Jul 2021 18:27:18
Things should get real interesting in the next 24-48 hours.

Seattle signed Adam Larsson and picked Mark Giordano. That gives them a pretty good defensive pair right there. They have to be talking with some big name free agents too. If they sign Dougie Hamilton or trade for Seth Jones they'll have a very good defense right out of the gate.

Most of their selections reported so far are big guys too. They're going to be tough to play against. With a few good free agent signings and/ or trades they'll be a very good team too.

No doubt they're talking to Gabriel Landeskog and few of the other top forward free agents too. They could wind up signing Zach Hyman to a nice team friendly deal.

Lots of trade possibilities too. Besides UFAs like "Landeskog players like Eichel and Reinhart in Buffalo, Monahan and Gaudreau in Calgary, Laine and Jones in Columbus, etc. are available too.

Then tomorrow at 1 pm the roster freeze is lifted and other teams can start making deals with each other again.

Things are about to get crazy!


1.) 22 Jul 2021 01:56:09
whats a team friendly deal for hyman?



26 Apr 2021 04:19:44
Calgary needs a top 6 goal scoring right shot RW, it's been their biggest weakness for years now. Calgary is strong at center and very strong at LW.

Montreal with Toffoli, Anderson and Galagher is very strong at RW but weak at LW and inexperienced at center.

Gallagher would certainly be a nogo but Montreal might part with Toffoli or Anderson if they get a LW or center back.

Possible players from Calgary would be Backlund

Possible players from Montreal would be

Obviously with Backlund, Calgary would need to add but he might be a perfect fit with the Habs for a couple years while their two young centers gain experience.

Monahan would give them an experienced top 6 center and Gaudreau would instantly be the Habs most skilled LW and best playmaker.

Personally I'd prefer Gaudreau be the player heading to Montreal but what do you think?

Which RW might Montreal trade, which of the Calgary players named above would they want back, which team adds and what would the add need to be?





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15 Sep 2021 21:26:40
Vancouver says no. They can't afford to resign Rielly, all their young current and pending RFAs and take on Kerfoot's contract too.

Besides Miller is a core player for Vancouver on a reasonable contract and Pettersson's production fell off a cliff when Miller was out. They need him a lot more than they need Rielly.




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13 Sep 2021 22:13:39
San Jose would have to add.

Monahan is a year younger but he and Hertl both came into the league the same year. With the exception of last year when Monahan was playing injured he's outpointed Hertl every year.

Monahan has 2 years left on his contract Hertl only has 1.

If Hertl had more than a year left on his contract too it'd be a lot closer.




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11 Sep 2021 22:49:10
It'd take more than Gaudreau to get Huberdeau.




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11 Sep 2021 01:21:21
They're not close in value and no I wouldn't trade Valimaki for a lowball offer like that.

Valimaki unlike Brown has cracked an NHL roster. At a younger age in spite of defensemen taking longer to develop than forwards.

Valimaki still has plenty of talent and upside. Brown can't even crack the Sens roster in spite of them being in such desperate need for centers.

Valimaki isn't being shopped though he could possibly be traded for something that improves the team now. It'd probably take an overpay though because Treliving is really big on Valimaki (more than he should be IMO) .




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10 Sep 2021 18:21:35
No doubt 29 other teams would beat the offer in the original post too.





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