13 Aug 2021 12:10:17
Columbus Trades
Domi*

Toronto Trades
Kerfoot
Dermott

*Columbus retains 1.3m of Domi's remaining contract.

Columbus is looking to ship out Domi as it just hasn't worked there, getting Kerfoot and Dermott and having to retain 1.3m of his contract makes this a very fair trade.

Toronto gets a player that I believe will do great probably playing LW on a line with Matthews and Marner, Dubas is trying to improve on a budget and this works Cap wise they will have just enough to recall up to 2 players on the league minimum when needed with just under 1.5m in Cap left but in general it will be a 20 man roster.


Thoughts ?

1.) 13 Aug 2021
13 Aug 2021 13:54:12
Domi has more upside, Columbus says no but I actually don’t mind it myself.

2.) 13 Aug 2021
13 Aug 2021 15:05:01
NotACasual
Domi is a UFA after this season, believe me this is a trade a small market team like Columbus will do, Kerfoot is a UFA and 2 seasons and Dermott isn't going anywhere, it makes sense for Columbus for this season and beyond, this makes sense for the win now Leafs.

3.) 13 Aug 2021
13 Aug 2021 16:46:49
Columbus probably balks at retention but without retention they might do it.

4.) 13 Aug 2021
13 Aug 2021 17:41:19
MoxNix
1.3m for one season isn't a huge factor in retention imo, when you add retention and Kerfoot and Dermott's Salary it's 1m more than right now.
And they are getting 2 NHL Players back in this proposal, remember Columbus is more retooling and this does that.

5.) 13 Aug 2021
13 Aug 2021 18:20:06
If it's not a big deal then the Leafs shouldn't need it. Besides Domi is the best player in the deal and makes just 300k more than Kerfoot and Dermott together.

6.) 13 Aug 2021
13 Aug 2021 21:11:48
I like the idea. I’m not so sure there’s more upside to Domi. I’d say there’s more upside to Dermott considering defensemen usually take longer to develop.

7.) 13 Aug 2021
13 Aug 2021 22:12:17
Based on what I’ve seen of Columbus, it’s hard to tell if they are retooling or rebuilding based on Jones trade, Atkinson and Werenski extension.

Also Jackets are not that deep at C and Domi is capable of playing that position if needed. So unless they have another option they can trust, not sure they jump on this now.

Maybe revisit a Domi deal near trade Deadline as rental if Jackets are out of playoff picture.

As for value, Kerfoot like I mentioned has a lower value (not quite cap dump, close to based on other factors) but Leafs don’t have a lot of negotiating power when having to stuff him in a deal. So with that, Leafs would need to add. Not sure Dermott is what Jackets would think about or if they rather add to their picks/ prospects they’ve been going for recently. My thought is picks/ prospects are more enticing because I don’t see Dermott’s ceiling as more than a low #3-4 Dman at best.

So a deal isn’t out of the question, Leafs just need to add more and likely swap Dermott for picks/ prospects especially with retention expected on Jackets side.

8.) 13 Aug 2021
13 Aug 2021 22:13:10
Also if I’m the Leafs, I would be a little cautious dealing with Jackets after the value they gave up to get Foligno who had limited impact and didn’t even stay for another year.

9.) 14 Aug 2021
13 Aug 2021 23:05:16
Atkinson was traded.

10.) 14 Aug 2021
13 Aug 2021 23:57:01
Without that 1.3m retention they won't be able to call up anyone from The AHL unless someone goes on the injured list, someone like Spezza or Simmonds who might need a game off won't be able to, so yes that retention is very important.
1.3m retention gives them just under 1.5m in Cap Space.

11.) 14 Aug 2021
14 Aug 2021 13:57:49
As someone once said, the rest of the league isn't there to help Toronto out of their self-inflicted cap hell.

12.) 14 Aug 2021
14 Aug 2021 13:59:36
That's Toronto's problem, other teams aren't going to retain salary just to help the Leafs out.

You don't trade away the better player and reduce your own cap space in the process. It's just the opposite, you trade away the best player when it INCREASES your own cap space enough to make it worth doing.

13.) 14 Aug 2021
14 Aug 2021 15:55:20
There’s one thing to want a team to retain salary and then there’s another for not making it worth their while.

Dermott + Kerfoot likely doesn’t incentivize Jackets to trade Domi to Toronto with retention.

They might be able to find a more appealing deal elsewhere with no retention.

14.) 14 Aug 2021
14 Aug 2021 15:56:49
@Toronto17, I know Atkinson is traded. I was using his recent deal and the other moves Jackets were making to gauge if they are in rebuild or retool. My thoughts are it’s somewhere in between where they have pieces to compete now but have been stacking up futures.

15.) 14 Aug 2021
14 Aug 2021 16:35:46
Idk about yall, but Domi was left unprotected in the expansion draft, and Columbus isn't a team that has a surplus of forwards to protect either. And yet, Seattle still picked that Bayreuther guy over him. Domi really doesn't have all that much value (at the moment), but realistically, neither does Kerfoot, but at least Toronto lost McCann instrad of him. CBJ likely won't move him at retention, but Domi for Kerfoot AT THE MOMENT (no retention, just 1for1) is probably a lot closer than we think based on league perception of the two players, as well as based on how badly Domi played in his first year in CBJ at like 5.2 mill.

16.) 15 Aug 2021
15 Aug 2021 01:05:18
I agree topshelf. I would like Domi on the leafs, only because he will fight. He had one really solid season, the rest have been average. Giving Dermott and Kerfoot for Domi seems like more than enough. I know pinball through in a salary retention which changes everything, but I think it’s a decent proposal.

17.) 15 Aug 2021
15 Aug 2021 15:02:36
I don't get that anyone saying Domi is worth more?
Read up on him and Columbus, he won't even be ready to play for the first month of the season, so he is coming off a surgery, Columbus was ready to lose him in expansion for nothing and Seattle didn't take him, he is a UFA after this season, my offer if anything is better than almost any other Team would offer, so even with the 1.3m retention The Leafs might even be able to get a Draft Pick out of this proposal on top of a Kerfoot and Dermott for Domi trade, when he is traded which I believe he will be if it's a different trade everyone will see his value isn't there for Domi.

18.) 17 Aug 2021
17 Aug 2021 18:18:43
NOBODY wants Kerfoot or Dermot. that's why they're in every leaf trade proposal.

If YOU don't want them, what makes you think OTHER teams want them.
. and want them enough to RETAIN money to acquire them?

You couldn't GIVE Kerfoot away for nothing to brand new Seattle. Think it through.