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13 Aug 2024 15:09:46
Calgary Trades
Kadri*
Toronto Trades
Kampf
Jarnkrok
NRobertson (RFA)
Minton (WHL)
*Flames retain 50% of Kadri's remaining contract.
Any player in my proposal that have a NTM/NTC would have to waive to complete this transaction.
Flames truly in a both retool and rebuild will be looking towards the future, Kadri at 33 years old is a trade asset 3.5 million is a lot to retain but to move Kadri at full salary would be next to impossible, getting NRobertson and Minton is a great move in depth of young players, Kampf and Jarnkrok gives them 2 players to fill in the roster as they add to there prospect pool.
Kadri makes his way back home where it all started giving The Leafs 3 solid Centers for the upcoming season, I believe Kadri will be exactly what Treliving will be looking before the season gets going as Kadri and Tavares are close in talent wise, this proposal would help huge upfront after losing Bertuzzi to Chicago in Free Agency.
Thoughts ?
1.) 13 Aug 2024 15:30:19
16 Jul 2024 16:37:37
Colorado Trades
Future Considerations
Toronto Trades
Kampf
Jarnkrok
Avalanche have the cap space with LTIR in place for next season, and need to solidify the 4th line.
Leafs get the well needed cap space to continue to change the roster that Treliving talked about.
Thoughts?
Pinballisback
1 month ago you said Kampf and Jarnkrok were worth nothing more thanbmagic beans, but now you're saying they're worth Kadri for 5 more years at a 50% discount as long as the Leafs include an RFA and an AHLer.
2.) 14 Aug 2024 15:48:35
This is a freaking pipe dream two bad players and a blah young player who gets hurt and an ok prospect why just why.
3.) 17 Aug 2024 14:29:17
redwing1
Two bad players?
If Kampf and Jarnkrok were one million less each would you still call them bad players?
The truth it's more contract related not their abilities.
NRobertson showed he is an NHLer last season and being 22 years old this is what Calgary would want.
Minton is a real prospect with a very good 2 way game and leadership qualities, He was Team Canada's JR Captain don't forget.
Kadri at soon to be 34 years old isn't The Flames future at this point, and yes retaining 3.5 million on a long term contract is a lot, but 3.5 million is still better Cap Wise long term than 7 million.
4.) 19 Aug 2024 04:12:42
You're not wrong about Kampf and Jarnkrok. They are overpaid for what they are which is bottom 6 players. But that also hurts their value quite a bit.
Robertson doesn't hold a tonne of value either at this point. He's a 3rd liner who can score you some goals occasionally. But he's injury prone.
Minten is a huge question mark for me now. Was just barely above a point a game this season in the WHL. Was hoping we'd see a bit more from him. So I don't know where his value is as I'm assuming most people are looking at him as a third line center as his ceiling which is great but again doesn't hold a tonne of value.
Kadri would be a great addition no doubt, but Calgary isn't retaining 50% on him. It's just not going to happen.
31 Jul 2024 03:14:09
Columbus Trades
Laine*
Jenner*
Toronto Trades
Kampf
Jarnkrok
Holmberg
Niemela (AHL)
Akhtyamov (KHL)(AHL)
1st Round Pick 2026
*Jackets retain 50% of Laine and Jenner's remaining contract.
Kampf and Jarnkrok would also have to waive their NTC to complete the transaction.
Columbus makes the biggest trade in their history with this proposal getting mostly a young forward in Holmberg, 2 good prospects plus a 1st Rounder, Kampf and Jarnkrok have to be part of the package for Cap reasons.
Treliving said he wants to change things up, he went hard in free agency getting Defensive and a Goaltender but has yet to address the forwards, this proposal does that in flying colors.
Thoughts ?
1.) 31 Jul 2024 14:15:11
I dont see anything that makes Columbus want to do this. Also, Laine is not what the Leafs need.
2.) 31 Jul 2024 14:35:57
No from CBJ. I don't see why they would do this.
3.) 31 Jul 2024 15:04:47
Ain't a chance in hell Columbus is retaining 50% on both of them and only get that back. They'd get better offers from most teams. I'd be all for going after Jenner though. He'd a great 3C for us.
Unrelated to the trade but the biggest trade for them could be acquiring Panarin or dealing Nash. This would be the worst trade in the teams history if they made it.
4.) 31 Jul 2024 16:49:23
Wow…all this AND they retain 50%? While paying for the remainder of Kampf’s deal?
The term “homer deal” doesn’t do this justice. Embarrassing is closer, but still doesn’t properly rate what is yet another one-sided deal for your team while ignoring what the other team needs.
CLB hangs up and laughs.
5.) 31 Jul 2024 22:35:26
I guess Toronto is out of draft picks to retain salary so maybe over paid 4th liners and some low prospects get the job done?
6.) 31 Jul 2024 23:03:25
Add in 2 1sts, and better prospects for retaining 7 million dollars next 2 year, plus taking a couple bad contracts. Torontos got no 1st for 5 years.
7.) 31 Jul 2024 23:09:13
Oh ya, chicago trading panarin for saad back was the best trade Columbus have done. This might be the worst unless Columbus is eyeing a guy in the 20-30 range of the 2026 draft.
8.) 01 Aug 2024 22:14:27
Columbus makes the biggest trade in their history? In their history pinball?
I know you've only been a part time Blue Jackets fan for 3 days but I have to believe you know the team has been in the NHL for almost 25 years.
Their biggest trade by far was acquiring Sergei Bobrovsky from the Flyers for 2012 2nd and 4th round picks and a 2023 4th round pick.
But going back to your garage sale trade proposal, you yourself offered Kampf and Jarnkrok WITH Robertson to the Sharks for future considerations. You're telling us now 4 weeks later that both those players have so much trade value that they're the center pieces of a Laine & Jenner trade with salary retention?
9.) 01 Aug 2024 22:17:43
16 Jul 2024 16:37:37
Colorado Trades
Future Considerations
Toronto Trades
Kampf
Jarnkrok
Avalanche have the cap space with LTIR in place for next season, and need to solidify the 4th line.
Leafs get the well needed cap space to continue to change the roster that Treliving talked about.
Thoughts?
Pinballisback
Soooo within 2 weeks Kampf and Jarnkrok have gone from worth nothing to being worth Laine AND Jenner WITH RETENTION as long as you include 3 AHLers and a late 1st round pick?
10.) 04 Aug 2024 21:14:01
PINBALL: stay down champ, this ain’t your night/ year/ sport.
DRW: thanks for putting Pinball’s own words to some kind of use…but I’m pretty sure he still doesn’t get it.
#PinballREALLYNeedsATimeOut.
22 Jul 2024 15:36:43
Calgary Trades
Wolf (RFA)
Nashville Trades
Glass
Lankinen
Preds looking for some Cap relief and The Flames with a ton capitalize on this proposal.
I believe you will see similar trades to this the rest of the off season of teams against the Cap ceiling trading good players for less to teams with a lot of Cap.
Thoughts ?
1.) 22 Jul 2024 16:33:30
I don't see why Calgary would be in a hurry to deal Wolf at all. He's there guy going forward and there's really no reason to deal him.
2.) 22 Jul 2024 19:04:01
Lankinen is a UFA so my mistake putting him in a trade proposal, I will change it up and Trade Glass to Calgary for a 3rd Round Pick.
Thoughts?
3.) 22 Jul 2024 20:36:45
NO NO NO. Wolf isn’t going anywhere. I believe you might be correct about cap relief trades. Wolf at this point is worth more than Glass and lankinen so how is that for cap relief.
4.) 22 Jul 2024 22:56:42
Pinball, are you serious or this is just a joke? Wolf isn't going anywhere and definitely not for that return.
5.) 24 Jul 2024 11:46:06
- why would either team consider this trade?
- Wolf is going to get meaningful games for CGY this year.
- NAS already has a great goalie prospect in Askarov, so why do they need Wolf?
- you seriously need to consider posting MUCH less. Hockey knowledge clearly isn’t your thing. This is embarrassing.
21 Jul 2024 15:43:14
San Jose Trades
Granlund*
Toronto Trades
Kampf**
NRobertson (RFA)
Akhtyamov (KHL)/(AHL)
*Sharks retain 2 million of Granlund's expiring contract.
**Kampf if SJ isn't on his list would have to waive his NTC.
Sharks in a full rebuild get some more younger players in NRobertson and Akhtyamov, the one area SJ lacks in prospects is at Goaltender and Akhtyamov definitely fits what they would be looking for, Kampf has to be part of this transaction as well as retaining cap to complete a proposal like this.
Leafs get for at least this upcoming season a better suited 2C in Granlund with Tavares going to 3C to give The Leafs a stronger top 9.
Thoughts ?
20 Jul 2024 17:45:57
Pittsburgh Trades
Bemstrom
Toronto Trades
Jarnkrok
Thoughts ?
1.) 21 Jul 2024 16:38:51
Pitt has no need for another over the hill player.
2.) 21 Jul 2024 17:17:02
Nashan
Don't forget who Pits GM is and he loves Leaf Players on his team.
Dubad is the one who signed Jarnkrok and yes I do believe he would want him on The Pens imo.
3.) 26 Jul 2024 14:47:49
Dubas left his mistakes behind him in Toronto, he's not bringing a Maple Leaf to Pittsburgh unless the name on the back of the sweater is Marner.
I don't believe Pittsburgh needs a player like Jarnkrok and you're absolutely wrong in your assessment on what the Pens/ Dubas would want imo.
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30 Aug 2024 12:56:57
This isn't a trade post.
I just wanted to say RIP for Johnny Gaudreau and prayers for his family after his tragic death.
Very sad day for everyone who loves the game of hockey.
1.) 30 Aug 2024 18:26:22
A horrible tragedy. RIP to the Gaudreau brothers, Johnny and Matthew.
14 Jun 2024 15:53:08
New Jersey Trades
Mercer
Nemec
10th Overall Pick 2024
2nd Round Pick 2025
Toronto Trades
Marner*
Liljegren
*Marner would have to both waive his NMC and do a sign and trade otherwise Marner and NJ say no.
IF Marner agrees to a trade and signing long term with NJ and The Leafs willing to make this bold move, it will definitely change things for both teams.
Mercer is no Marner but a solid Winger, Liljegren is no Nemec either and that's the improvement for Toronto, I see NJ pursuing Guentzel and should have just enough to sign him and have a full roster imo.
Thoughts ?
13 Jun 2024 15:35:37
Montreal Trades
Suzuki
Caufield
DSavard
5th Overall Pick 2024
57th Overall Pick 2024
Toronto Trades
Marner*
NRobertson
1st Round Pick 2026
*Marner would have to both waive his NTC and do a sign and trade.
Montreal wants Marner this should be the asking price if Marner agrees to going to Montreal.
Thoughts ?
1.) 13 Jun 2024 19:58:48
Not even sure why I am responding to this. bur Pinball, maybe this is why you get so much negative backlash on this site. This is horrible. I might be bias, but this is one of the more rediculous trades I've seen from you.
28 Feb 2023 21:35:48
What a Leaf Day so far.
Leafs Going
Sandin (Washington)
Engvall (NYIslanders)
3rd Round Pick (Vancouver)
Leafs Incoming
Gustafsson (Washington)
LSchenn (Vancouver)
1st Round Pick 2023 (Boston's Pick)
3rd Round Pick 2024 (NYIslanders)
All I can say is my thorn on here Chickenfoot, didn't I say Dubas was going to do big things ?
More to come by THE GENIUS Dubas.
1.) 01 Mar 2023 12:47:53
In 2 weeks he has brought in O’Rielly, McCabe, Acciari, Lafferty, Schenn, Gustafsson and recovered a 1st rounder…. lost only Sandin, Engvall and Joey Anderson off the NHL roster, has chicago paying 50% of McCabe for 2 more seasons AND actually gained cap space over that period.
I honestly don’t know anyone else that would have or could have done that. If they don’t extend him, where do you go looking for a replacement GM that’s an upgrade? I wouldn’t wanna be the guy who has to find it. And if you don’t keep Dubas around, does Brandon Pridham, their cap expert, stay? Or does he go with Dubas?
I think it’ll be a big mistake to not extend Dubas regardless of what happens in the first round. He’s done his job at an elite level. It’s up to the players to do theirs now.
18 Mar 2022 19:12:42
Toronto Trades
WNylander
NRobertson
Liljegren
Dermott
Hirvonen (SML)
1st Round Pick 2022
2nd Round Pick 2023
Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
Garland
LSchenn
Hunt
Both Toronto and Vancouver basically said respectfully that WNylander and/or JTMiller wouldn't be traded from their respected teams, and I know it probably won't happen, but if both Teams would be willing I believe this would be great trade for both Teams imo, plus it would be the biggest deadline trade in NHL history.
Thoughts ?
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17 Aug 2024 14:29:17
redwing1
Two bad players?
If Kampf and Jarnkrok were one million less each would you still call them bad players?
The truth it's more contract related not their abilities.
NRobertson showed he is an NHLer last season and being 22 years old this is what Calgary would want.
Minton is a real prospect with a very good 2 way game and leadership qualities, He was Team Canada's JR Captain don't forget.
Kadri at soon to be 34 years old isn't The Flames future at this point, and yes retaining 3.5 million on a long term contract is a lot, but 3.5 million is still better Cap Wise long term than 7 million.
22 Jul 2024 19:04:01
Lankinen is a UFA so my mistake putting him in a trade proposal, I will change it up and Trade Glass to Calgary for a 3rd Round Pick.
Thoughts?
21 Jul 2024 17:17:02
Nashan
Don't forget who Pits GM is and he loves Leaf Players on his team.
Dubad is the one who signed Jarnkrok and yes I do believe he would want him on The Pens imo.
16 Jul 2024 19:26:35
Chickenfoot
Incorrect you better look up their Cap Again.
12 Jul 2024 19:58:00
Chickenfoot
That was my sarcasm at the end.
I said it because I knew you would point it out lol.
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