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23 Sep 2023 16:41:13
Chicago Trades
Future Considerations

Toronto Trades
Brodie
NRobertson

Chicago has the cap and could use a veteran defenceman that can be traded at the deadline with salary retained, Brodie at 2.5 million if Chicago retains half of his salary and any team needing a defenceman at the deadline would probably be able to afford that, adding NRobertson is the sacrifice Toronto has to make to shed that salary.
Leafs can then add a defenceman like a Peeke or Lyubushkin to play with Rielly and be under the cap.


Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 23 Sep 2023 17:25:31
I thought Robertson was going to be the next Marner so why trade him?


2.) 23 Sep 2023 17:51:17
You’re a lost record man. No leaf’s fan besides you wants Brodie gone he’s the leafs best dman. If anything why wouldn’t the give Rielly away if he makes 2 million more. Rielly isn’t as good defensively and Klingberg can replace his offence.


3.) 23 Sep 2023 18:09:46
Who ever said Robertson would be the next Marner? And Brodie is far from great vb. He is a good 3/ 4 dman.


4.) 23 Sep 2023 21:55:09
vbbbvvbb
So please tell me who goes to get the cap under the limit?
Lafferty isn't enough, the only one that makes sense is Brodie because of the 5 million cap hit, this gives The Leafs enough cap to replace Brodie if need be, or sign Patrick Kane if he decides to sign in Toronto, subtraction for addition in trading Brodie.


5.) 24 Sep 2023 03:47:10
Chicago is done for now they said, but Brodie gets traded maybe to a team that equals salary that has too many winger. Or Toronto sends more for eating his entire salary, like picks or better prospects.


6.) 24 Sep 2023 16:21:26
Let me think. Lets trade our best defensive defenceman retain 2.5 million and trade honey baker winner who costs us nothing against the cap and is waiver exempt for nothing. man what are you thinking?

Would you trade Connor Murphy retain 2.5 and Lukas Rychel for nothing?


7.) 24 Sep 2023 22:08:56
Morgan Rielly should go before Brodie.


 

 

14 Sep 2023 16:15:21
Columbus Trades
Peeke

Toronto Trades
Brodie
Lafferty
Hildeby (SHL)


Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 14 Sep 2023 17:52:22
Explain why on earth Columbus would do this. Every leaf trade put up never balanced.


2.) 14 Sep 2023 20:21:56
Nashan
Brodie is a Lefthanded shooting Defenceman and Columbus is stacked on the Rightside compared to the Leftside, plus Brodie would be a Top 3 Defenceman on Columbus.
Lafferty is a solid bottom 6 Winger/ Centre that young teams always add in a rebuild.
Hildeby isn't some throw in prospect, he is a solid Goaltender that could become a future #1, Toronto has plenty of Goaltending Depth coming up but Columbus doesn't.
Peeke is solid but will never be an All-star so honestly don't you believe you are over rating Peeke?
So there you got why this makes sense for Columbus, for Toronto they need to shed some Cap and if this wasn't a Cap situation they are actually weaker after this proposal.


3.) 15 Sep 2023 10:57:13
Columbus declines. no value coming back.


4.) 15 Sep 2023 11:51:53
Brodie hasn't played the left side for years man. Might be left handed but he plays better on the right side. Hildeby is a complete unknown in terms of whether his play in Europe will transfer over hear. We had a Swedish goalie before who was suppose to be our saving grace and that blew up in our faces. Just don't see it happening.


5.) 15 Sep 2023 16:51:40
MG69
Brodie can play either side equally as well, in fact he played a lot with Holl last season with Holl a RHanded Shooting Defenceman.
Hildeby is a very good prospect, to say he isn't is a judgement that has no base at all.
Peeke is a solid Defenceman that fits The Leafs better than he does on Columbus, that's why it makes sense for both Teams imo.


6.) 18 Sep 2023 18:15:12
I still don't think pinball realizes brodie isn't gonna get you much, hes a salary hindering weight. Just like he is on Toronto. If Toronto retained 50% they'd get a good return. But as is they'll pay to trade him or take an equal salary for a similar talent.


7.) 21 Sep 2023 20:12:18
Peeke isn’t making Columbus this season. He can be had for free on waivers most likely.


 

 

10 Sep 2023 16:58:28
2 Trade Proposals to Get The Leafs under the cap limit.

Calgary Trades
Hanifin

Toronto Trades
Brodie*
Liljegren

*Brodie would have to accept the trade otherwise it's a no go obviously.


Pittsburgh Trades
ANylander

Toronto Trades
Lafferty

They were traded once before for each other so why not one more time.

Leafs do these 2 proposals they are not over the cap anymore with MMurray and Muzzin going on LTIR when the season starts.


Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 11 Sep 2023 01:06:17
I know you Leaf fans think poorly of Hanifin but that trade is brutal.


2.) 11 Sep 2023 03:38:51
I can't see any scenario where the Flames make that deal lol


3.) 12 Sep 2023 20:08:06
Great joke post. Pinball has to be the funniest guy on the internet.


 

 

21 Aug 2023 13:03:30
Anaheim Trades
Vatrano
Vaakanainen

Toronto Trades
Brodie
Liljegren
NRobertson

Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 22 Aug 2023 06:51:26
It’s actually not bad imo


2.) 23 Aug 2023 18:31:03
The leafs miss playoffs if they make this trade. Despite what people on here think Brodie bring more to the leafs then Mathews and Marner he is the last player they move and will be there number 1 priority to resign. Anyone who has played hockey understands the importance of a dman that can basically play the whole game and shut down teams offence.


3.) 23 Aug 2023 20:23:21
Are you serious vb? I like Brodie, and I don't agree with all the people who say he is useless, but he is nothing more than a 3/ 4 man. He is NOT the the most valuable Leaf, and it's not close.


4.) 24 Aug 2023 14:28:49
vbbbvvbb
It's not Brodie's production that's the issue, it's his 5 million Cap hit that's the problem.
That's why Brodie will be the one going imo.


5.) 24 Aug 2023 16:17:05
He won’t be because he is the only good defensive dman in the nhl.


6.) 25 Aug 2023 01:03:52
I meant on the leafs.


7.) 28 Aug 2023 10:23:15
I'm gonna go with brodie is a good defenseman. His price is why he's talked-about trade. He's under appreciated because price. He'll definitely be traded. Nate Robertson is basically a throw in at this point.


8.) 29 Aug 2023 18:50:45
I tend to agree with Shoots & Pinball.

Sometimes players just aren't worth their cap hits anymore, such as the recent example of Petry. It doesn't mean they're without value, it just means their cap hit exceeds their as-is value.

If Brodie was traded, with proper retention he can produce commensurate results for who and what he is now. He's certainly not the only player in that situation. It just happens as the years tick by.


 

 

14 Aug 2023 15:15:20
Columbus Trades
Peeke

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Hildeby (AHL)

Jackets being a rebuilding team make trades like this for the future, plus signing Severson and with Werenski and Bean coming back Peeke is expendable.

Leafs will have to make a few more moves to not only get to the Cap limit but also get a bit more sandpaper on Defense, Brodie and either Timmons or Liljegren I believe will be traded before the season gets started.


Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 14 Aug 2023 16:36:24
Pinball your trades, like this one, are embarrassingly one sided for the Leafs. Then you wonder why your posts are ridiculed by people reading them.


2.) 15 Aug 2023 11:56:54
Actually don’t know if this is bad Peeke might not make the Jackets this year with Werenski and Severson locked in on the right side with Boqvist, Jiricek and Peeke fighting for the 3rd pairing. Now Peeke is definitely a Babcock player but those other 2 players have a lot higher potential then Peeke.

Peeke is probably worth a 3rd.


3.) 15 Aug 2023 12:58:41
islandjet
Have you looked at The Jackets Defense Depth?
Peeke is probably the odd man out plus Columbus is a rebuilding club adding both NRobertson and Hildeby is what rebuilding teams do.


4.) 15 Aug 2023 14:23:54
Robertson is an undersized injury prone soon to be 22 year old winger next month and has only played 82 games over the past 3 seasons in the NHL/AHL. I can’t see him being worth much honestly. His health has been a concern since his days in the OHL. The skill is there though, it’s just his size and health that’s a huge concern.


5.) 15 Aug 2023 18:51:58
This is to much for Peeke after seeing what Petry returned.


 

 

 

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28 Feb 2023 21:35:48
What a Leaf Day so far.

Leafs Going
Sandin (Washington)
Engvall (NYIslanders)
3rd Round Pick (Vancouver)

Leafs Incoming
Gustafsson (Washington)
LSchenn (Vancouver)
1st Round Pick 2023 (Boston's Pick)
3rd Round Pick 2024 (NYIslanders)

All I can say is my thorn on here Chickenfoot, didn't I say Dubas was going to do big things ?
More to come by THE GENIUS Dubas.

Pinballisback

1.) 01 Mar 2023 12:47:53
In 2 weeks he has brought in O’Rielly, McCabe, Acciari, Lafferty, Schenn, Gustafsson and recovered a 1st rounder…. lost only Sandin, Engvall and Joey Anderson off the NHL roster, has chicago paying 50% of McCabe for 2 more seasons AND actually gained cap space over that period.

I honestly don’t know anyone else that would have or could have done that. If they don’t extend him, where do you go looking for a replacement GM that’s an upgrade? I wouldn’t wanna be the guy who has to find it. And if you don’t keep Dubas around, does Brandon Pridham, their cap expert, stay? Or does he go with Dubas?

I think it’ll be a big mistake to not extend Dubas regardless of what happens in the first round. He’s done his job at an elite level. It’s up to the players to do theirs now.


 

 

18 Mar 2022 19:12:42
Toronto Trades
WNylander
NRobertson
Liljegren
Dermott
Hirvonen (SML)
1st Round Pick 2022
2nd Round Pick 2023

Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
Garland
LSchenn
Hunt

Both Toronto and Vancouver basically said respectfully that WNylander and/or JTMiller wouldn't be traded from their respected teams, and I know it probably won't happen, but if both Teams would be willing I believe this would be great trade for both Teams imo, plus it would be the biggest deadline trade in NHL history.


Thoughts ?

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08 Apr 2021 12:48:24
2 Trade Proposals for The Leafs.

First Trade.

Buffalo Trades
THall (50% of Contract Retained)

Toronto Trades
Barabanov
1st Round Pick 2021



Second Trade.

Detroit Trades
Bernier (50% of Contract Retained)

Toronto Trades
FAndersen
4th Round Pick 2021


The Leafs wouldn't have to trade Kerfoot or any other player on the current roster besides an injured FAndersen and replacing him with a healthy Bernier and saving 3.5m in Cap keeps Kerfoot on the Team only making them deeper with quality depth.

The Trades for UFAs have been established and this is very similar to what The Islanders and Devils did last night.


Thoughts ?

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04 Apr 2021 21:33:42
Devils Trade
Palmieri (50% of Contract Retained)

Toronto Trades
Simmonds
2nd Round Pick 2021

Leafs are just under the cap limit so it works Cap Wise in this trade proposal.


Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 05 Apr 2021 20:11:28
He’s the only guy that can fight his way out of a wet paper bag. Do you want them to get bullied in the playoffs and throw their skirts on? Or would you rather the other team know there are consequences for their actions.


2.) 06 Apr 2021 23:05:24
Agree with Toronto17. one thing Leafs have lacked the past couple of years is gritty hard nosed players. so Pinball, why would you want to trade away one of the grittier in your face types, the league has to offer? He may not score the way he once did. but he's still an important player. Leafs have enough guys to put the puck in the net. need to keep the grit. And. he still can score .


3.) 07 Apr 2021 04:52:15
If this is all Palmeri can get the devils will keep him .


 

 

11 Jul 2020 15:34:12
A Proposal that I don't see happening but if it did would either Team be even interested in doing it ?

Edmonton Traded
McDavid

Toronto Trades
Matthews
Kapanen
Dermott

Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 11 Jul 2020 17:54:42
The Oilers would never do this trade.


2.) 11 Jul 2020 19:49:21
One team would take it and run and the other wouldn't give the deal any consideration at all. See if you can put aside your heavy bias for one minute Pinball and figure out which is which.


3.) 11 Jul 2020 22:55:38
replace kap with freddie and a couple firsts and the oil don't hang up immediately.


4.) 12 Jul 2020 01:38:50
Mackinnon at 6.3 million>>>McDavid with the flat cap.

McDavid isn’t a top 5 most valuable player in the NHL anymore imo but mathews certainly isn’t either.


5.) 14 Jul 2020 01:05:15
McDavid for Matthews, Marner, Rielly and a 1st.


6.) 14 Jul 2020 17:10:33
@EP40 I hope that’s a troll.

Pettersson, Boeser, Hughes and Horvat for McDavid.


7.) 17 Jul 2020 03:24:45
Matthews and Reilly is fair value, but the leafs would still have to add Kapanen To get it done.


 

 

 

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23 Sep 2023 21:55:09
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So please tell me who goes to get the cap under the limit?
Lafferty isn't enough, the only one that makes sense is Brodie because of the 5 million cap hit, this gives The Leafs enough cap to replace Brodie if need be, or sign Patrick Kane if he decides to sign in Toronto, subtraction for addition in trading Brodie.

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15 Sep 2023 16:51:40
MG69
Brodie can play either side equally as well, in fact he played a lot with Holl last season with Holl a RHanded Shooting Defenceman.
Hildeby is a very good prospect, to say he isn't is a judgement that has no base at all.
Peeke is a solid Defenceman that fits The Leafs better than he does on Columbus, that's why it makes sense for both Teams imo.

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14 Sep 2023 20:21:56
Nashan
Brodie is a Lefthanded shooting Defenceman and Columbus is stacked on the Rightside compared to the Leftside, plus Brodie would be a Top 3 Defenceman on Columbus.
Lafferty is a solid bottom 6 Winger/ Centre that young teams always add in a rebuild.
Hildeby isn't some throw in prospect, he is a solid Goaltender that could become a future #1, Toronto has plenty of Goaltending Depth coming up but Columbus doesn't.
Peeke is solid but will never be an All-star so honestly don't you believe you are over rating Peeke?
So there you got why this makes sense for Columbus, for Toronto they need to shed some Cap and if this wasn't a Cap situation they are actually weaker after this proposal.

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24 Aug 2023 14:28:49
vbbbvvbb
It's not Brodie's production that's the issue, it's his 5 million Cap hit that's the problem.
That's why Brodie will be the one going imo.

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15 Aug 2023 12:58:41
islandjet
Have you looked at The Jackets Defense Depth?
Peeke is probably the odd man out plus Columbus is a rebuilding club adding both NRobertson and Hildeby is what rebuilding teams do.

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