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12 Aug 2022 18:54:52
VGK: Marchessault, 2nd & 3rd (2023)

NYI: Varlamov


VGK needs goaltending after foolishly choosing the wrong goalie. NYI get some more pop up front and a couple of picks. Cap hits equal out except NYI have an extra year of Marchy.

On a side note it's nice to see this page return to some form of normal without the name calling and snippy comments. It never has to be that way if people communicate as if they're speaking in person as opposed to anonymously posting on a web page. Kudos one and all?

Chickenfoot

1.) 13 Aug 2022 14:33:45
A good trade for both teams Chickenfoot. The only way this wouldn't be done is if Vegas decides to tank to get into the Bedard hunt.


2.) 13 Aug 2022 15:32:01
@islandjet there's no way that Vegas goes for the Bedard hunt. They have solid pieces up front and I'm seriously guessing Stone, Pietrangelo and Eichel wouldn't be too pleased that the team doesn't even try to contend


3.) 14 Aug 2022 04:24:17
This is a team that is built to challenge for the Cup, or was or should be? There would have to be some kind of investigation if this team was the winner of the Bedard sweepstakes . Arizona Chicago and my Habs are all the contenders for that.


 

 

27 Jul 2022 00:33:35
NYR: Pullijarvi

EDM: Kakko

Simple swap of underperforming players with more to prove. Maybe a change of scenery helps one more than the other.

My money is on Pullijarvi finding a way to stay in the league, and Zibby could show him the way.

Chickenfoot

1.) 27 Jul 2022 02:27:34
I feel like Kakko being a few years younger makes his value higher. But I also think Puljujarvi is going to turn into a 45+ point player and I don’t know enough about Kakko to know if he will or not.


2.) 27 Jul 2022 03:06:39
Kakko is younger and on a ELC. No way rangers touch this.


3.) 27 Jul 2022 04:19:29
Nice idea but both Teams are struggling with Cap Space. I see NYR Trading Kakko for a Pick and going with Kravtsov, simply because he's cheaper

Most Finnish Players seem to have problems transitioning to the North American game I find.


4.) 27 Jul 2022 04:36:52
If CGY can't sign Stralman, Subban, Stone or acquire Holl:

CGY'a Jusso Valimaki @1.55/ RFA2023 FOR
EDM's Tyson Barrie @4.5/ UFA2024 + 2023-5th Round Pick

Oilers open up about $3mil in Cap Space/ Flames add more D-Scoring, similarly like COL/ Hanifin shelters Barrie Defensively

Weegar-Andersson
Hanifin-Barrie
Mackey-Zadorov/ Tanev (Kylington to be Traded/ It's Mackey Time)

Nurse-Ceci
Kulak-Bouchard
Broberg/ Nielamlainen-Valimaki.


5.) 27 Jul 2022 04:46:55
Oops sorry, I posted my trade in the thread. Too many drinks for me lol FML

Everything considered (Age, G/ PPG, Size, Defence, etc. ) Kakko = Puljujarvi. I'd prefer PJ myself, but McDavid & Draisaitl may prefer Kakko.


6.) 27 Jul 2022 13:31:54
Kakko > Puljujarvi due to age and attitude.


7.) 27 Jul 2022 20:45:03
Right there Trevor, that’s strike one!


8.) 28 Jul 2022 04:43:26
Sorry ?

Hey! Who wins the Jake Virtanen Sweepstakes now that he was found Not Guilty!?


 

 

21 Jul 2022 13:28:07
VGK:

- Tkachuk

CGY:

- Smith (if CGY isn't one of the teams in his NTC)
- Roy (RFA)
- Brisson
- 1st

VGK loves the latest shiny object. Their owner goes after "the next big thing" like a puppy goes after a slipper. They also need to clear some space with more than one move.

Some say CGY can't win this trade. Treliving is smarter than most CGY fans give him credit for. CGY is still good, with solid D, a good goalie, and depth up front. They don't have to lose this trade by a wide margin, and they'll still be a tough out this year regardless.

STL is the obvious trading partner, given its Tkachuk's hometown, but VGK is usually a generous trading partner.

Tkachuk will get 10M or more wherever he goes, but in Nevada, he doesn't lose any to income tax. The Tkachuk family negotiate hard. I'm calling my shot to VGK with a generous return to CGY.

Chickenfoot

1.) 21 Jul 2022 13:56:06
Value wise that’s what’d I’d expect but Vegas can’t afford him and smith just signed a contract.


2.) 21 Jul 2022 15:17:57
VBBB - agreed, and I mentioned VGK will need more than one move to clear space. ?.


3.) 21 Jul 2022 17:04:40
Mark Stone + Brett Howden + Brayden McNabb + Nic Hague + Zach Hayes
FOR Matthew Tkachuk + Oliver Kylington + Jusso Valimaki would be better

Just need Stone & McNabb to approve and Michael Stone to re-sign.


4.) 21 Jul 2022 23:55:23
The poor Flames should do a sign and trade with any team that Tkachuk would want to sign long term with and hope to get the best return possible.


 

 

20 Apr 2022 18:13:42
Off-season Trade:

MTL trades Poehling, Norlinder, 2023 7th (EDM) + Weber's contract

MIN trades Fiala (RFA)

. Minny needs cap relief and likely can't re-sign Fiala. Weber's contract will provide some cap relief on-going to get through the worst of the Suter/Parise buyouts.

. Minny gets a left shot up front to replace Fiala's LW and a D prospect with offensive upside, plus a pick.

.MTL gets a left shot who is young enough to grow with the team (25) and slot in next to Suzuki and Caufield on the first line.

inny is up against it next year. Whether its this or something else, they'll have to make some moves. The GM's have a relationship too and have the pieces to help each other.

Chickenfoot

1.) 20 Apr 2022 18:43:51
Minnesota should easily be able to get a better futures package than that.


2.) 20 Apr 2022 20:41:11
The guy is a point per game… he’ll bring back a whole lot more than that.


3.) 20 Apr 2022 21:51:39
Fiala will get better offers.


4.) 20 Apr 2022 22:39:20
Minny gets better offers than that for Fiala from everyone.


 

 

17 Mar 2022 14:38:30
MTL trades Hoffman & Kulak (50% ret)

PIT trades Kapanen, Simon, 2022 1st & 5th + 2023 2nd

- Kap helps the salary fit
- Simon is included to fit the 23-man roster (PIT may be able to find the spot internally as well)

Chickenfoot

1.) 17 Mar 2022 16:58:01
Horrendous = Terrible Trade for PIT.


2.) 17 Mar 2022 17:10:14
Hoffman is a locker room cancer and worse than Kapanen imo.


3.) 17 Mar 2022 17:49:06
Hey HOCKEY DAD: PIT has been trying to move Kapanen's salary because his play has really fallen off this year. They're also trying to add a gun up front. That was my thinking, but I respect your perspective 100%. 👍.


4.) 17 Mar 2022 20:28:32
I agree with Hockey Dad and Hoffman. Pitts don't need side distractions.

Pitsburgh are probably looking to deal with vancouver around Connor Garland and maybe Kap ends up in a trade scenerio there.

Now you got me thinking what team is desperate enough to take on Hoffman who really has been strugggling point wise but then again. it was a bad habs year.

If his points were up I'd say it would greater his chances of being traded. Kane was traded right? ;)


5.) 17 Mar 2022 21:03:31
It would definitely make me happy, as i'm not a big fan of Hoffman. I don't know to much about his demeanor in the dressing room, but I just don't see anything to special about this guy. Maybe with guys like Crosby and Malkin to fee him the puck, he could be a good sniper for them.


6.) 17 Mar 2022 22:15:07
I hadn't heard anything about dressing room issues, exactly the opposite. (He had a crazy girlfriend though. ) Bad year for all in MTL, and the pens want Kappy gone, I still like that one. Time will tell.


 

 

 

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09 Aug 2022 13:11:34
I'm curious how WPG fans assess PLD's trade value. (Full respect WPG fans - sorry to bring this up.)

I respect Jets' fans and I hope they get good value for him in the way Treliving with Gaudreau.

Given that PLD will have to wait 2 years to "possibly" sign with MTL, and the fact that every NHL team now knows his preferred spot, his in-season trade value is impacted. It seems like the best chance to trade him is as a deadline rental. (For several reasons I don't see MTL as a logical trading partner.)

At the Trade Deadline I can see a max value for PLD as a 1st and a 2nd or a good prospect. At the least I see a 1st.

I'm curious how WPG fans see this ending. Island Jet, you're a legit WPG fan and a prudent/realistic observer. How do you see the PLD saga concluding, and where do you gauge the return?

(My apologies if this posts twice. I posted yesterday but perhaps something went wrong on my end?).

Chickenfoot

1.) 09 Aug 2022 15:08:53
I believe that if the Jets can't sign PLD by the trade deadline the Jets have 3 options.
1. trade him around the new year to a team that has a young skilled player that needs a change 1 for 1. Similar to the Laine trade.
2. trade him at the deadline in which they will get a couple of prospects and draft choices. This is a future trade if the Jets believe they need a do a rebuild.
3 trade him at the draft where they will get the best return of a top end player, A prospect and/ or high draft pick.


2.) 10 Aug 2022 05:08:18
I think assuming he is dead set on signing with the habs is ignorant. I’m sure if a team like Tampa has the cap room he’d consider there in a few years.


 

 

08 Aug 2022 16:55:44
Just to change the subject a little.?.I'm curious about what WPG fans think about PLD's trade value.

First and foremost, I respect WPG fans, and I want them to have a great season and get a fair deal for the PLD asset.

Given that PLD is an RFA this coming June, and a UFA the following June, and given his interest in landing in MTL eventually, his value seems to be that of a pure deadline rental. Whoever gets him knows they're unlikely to re-sign him.

I doubt the Habs will trade for him. It's not the right fit for a few reasons. Therefore, if true Cup contender is looking for a 2C-3C for a playoff run this year and next, I suspect his max-value is:

1st & 2nd

or

1st & decent prospect

What do you think Jets fans? What will he bring, and when will he be traded?

Chickenfoot

1.) 08 Aug 2022 18:59:18
I would like to see the Jets trade him 1 for 1 to a team that needs a change from one of their young, top end centre/ wingers. This type of trade can happen anytime by January or at the draft. If the Jets trade PLD at the deadline they will get A prospects and/ or high draft picks.
I would like to see them get a 1 for 1 top end player but if PLD doesn't sign long term before the deadline then he has to go by the draft.


2.) 09 Aug 2022 13:24:50
PLD's minimum value at the TDL in two years is a first and a good prospect.

So, if he is moved now, you would need to pay for those extra two years and would need to add probably either another good prospect or a young top 6 player.

Most likely nothing happens until next summer unless Chevy gets a too good to be true offer.


 

 

 

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11 Aug 2022 10:29:22
Wow, your optimism for Niemela is certainly noteworthy. At 5-11 / 160 at age 20 he will be an undersized NHL D and better have some amazing skill to back it up.

Is he the latest over-hyped leaf prospect or a small guy who will have a hard time at the NHL level, or both? I’ll be curious to see if he gets any preseason games to see how he performs against bigger men in North American rinks to see if I can see what you do?.

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11 Aug 2022 10:16:20
Muzzin has had 3 in an 18 month span, including 2 within a one month span. Concussions are no joke, and they’re cumulative.

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10 Aug 2022 20:37:06
Lots of names, but only the 1st is consequential, and a 1st is a given with a hot commodity like Miller.

The leafs shouldn’t trade any more first regardless. Scooby torpedoed the rebuild when he signed Tavares needlessly, and gave Marner 11M too.

Next summer the leafs’ new GM will trade Matthews and Nylander to get picks or prospects before they leave as UFA’s at the end of next season. The new GM will be hired based upon experience and achievement…someone respected, like LOU LAMORIELLO? ?.

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10 Aug 2022 20:31:21
I’m not sure why a rebuilding team like Anaheim would add an old D, it just doesn’t fit with what a rebuilding team does.

I can’t see them parting with a 2nd either, and certainly not for Muzzin, who is one hit away from permanent LTIR. Concussions are no joke, and his collection is pretty full.

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09 Aug 2022 19:40:07
I hope to see you post more often, and you’re right on the money with your WWE comment. Cheers ?.

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