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01 Mar 2024 16:56:51
Leafs Deadline deal

1. Washington: Jensen and Dowd (50% retained) For 2024 1st 3rd NYI, Timmins, voit and Niemala

Bertuzzi Matthews Robertson
Jarnkrok Domi Nylander
Knies Tavares Marner
Dowd Kampf Mcmann

Reilly Jensen
Brodie Liligrin
McCabe Benoit
* Gio LTIR *


To Explain the Roster shift.

Marner and Matthews is to predictable as they will get shut down so they should diversfy the lines and have Tavares and Brodie more realistic roles. Also will have one extra Goalie and defencemen to rotate in and out.


1.) 01 Mar 2024 18:33:12
It's important note only dowd is 50% retained for the deal.

2.) 02 Mar 2024 19:55:13
we just traded for lyubushkin and your already benching him until an injury. nty.

3.) 02 Mar 2024 19:58:26
A 1st for those 2 is steep. Maybe Simplify it to Timmons, Volt and 1st for the two. But I don’t think these 2 will require a 1st but that’s a trade I wouldn’t hate as a leafs fan.

4.) 02 Mar 2024 21:04:38
seems like an overpayment from TOR



10 Feb 2024 15:19:26
SJS Ferraro 25% retained and Rutta for Liljegrin and Timmins and 1st and 3rd (NYI)

Fire Keefe if possible hire Joe Quenville ( #2 playoff wins) if not #tucker for coach

Ideal Roster format in my opinion.
Bertuzzi Matthews Robertson
Jarnkrok Domi Marner
Knies Tavares Nylander
Mcmann Kampf Gregor

Reilly Rutta
Ferraro Brodie
McCabe Benoit

Scratches Giordano, Jones

Depth: Lagesson homberg


I think this spreads out the talent across three lines and are defensive responsible lines. ( only switch I might do is Nylander and Robertson) also think gives Tavares advantage as 3c over other competition and helps brodie as a 4.

Would probably add additional Depth/ grit
Such as Kastelic, Mccbain, Max Jones, Pezzetta, Bastian, *might be upgrade.


1.) 10 Feb 2024 18:44:43
“Joel” Quenville, and SJ declines.

2.) 11 Feb 2024 03:32:18
Chickenfoot why does SJS decline they are getting 1st for a defencemen who would normally get a 2nd and Liljegrin a young proven nhler, serviceable timmins. Rutta will not help them in the next 5 years. So 3 for him.

3.) 11 Feb 2024 14:58:41
Quantity doesn’t replace quality.

4.) 11 Feb 2024 18:10:24
If any team offers a 1st for Ferraro then San Jose jumps on that. Rutta cleared waivers 2x this season.

5.) 12 Feb 2024 12:48:53
BM4: I appreciate that you're a die-hard fan of your team, and that the explanation you requested wouldn't be of much use. You're a true believer. But simply put, this is a "homer deal". The eventual return for the player will dwarf what is offered here.

The reality is that there are more issues to fix in Toronto than there are tradable assets available. Does Treliving make trades for optics just to satisfy the fan base, knowing they're not able to contend? In my opinion it would be a waste of assets, and the leafs are already low on draft picks and prospects.

The real opportunity to address the leafs' areas of need was when they re-signed Nylander rather than trading him for what they needed. I'm not breaking any news when I say they have too many NTC contracts, and too many high salaries, without enough tradeable assets to do anything to help improve what is a flawed roster build.

Complicating the current sitation is the brain fart by Rielly, and his inevitable suspension. They're currently in a wild card, but with the Sergachev injury they had a chance to build a cushion against Tampa. They'll likely lose Rielly for 6-8 games, in what was an incredibly selfish play that will hurt his team in the stretch run.

6.) 12 Feb 2024 22:12:54
Joel Quenneville* ;)

7.) 13 Feb 2024 02:54:15
6-8 games? You’re kidding right? That wouldn’t even be a penalty in 2005.

8.) 13 Feb 2024 14:19:30

- the hearing is today, so we'll know if 6-8 games is accurate or not. (It's 5+ for an in-person hearing, so let's just say that I'm confident that I am right and you are wrong. again. )

- a cross-check to the head after a goal has ALWAYS been a penalty. at least. (Are you new to hockey? )

- head shots have always been a thing, even in 2005, such as the 6-game suspension Eric Boulton got for elbowing Paul Ranger in the head.

9.) 14 Feb 2024 20:44:07
Personally think it should’ve been 4 games. I think most people loved the whole play. But 2005 is irrelevant and Parros is impossible to guess. Gallagher should’ve gotten double what Reilly got IMO.



27 Jan 2024 18:23:42
Liljgrin, Steeves and 1st for Monahan, Xhekaj, Pezzetta

Timmins Jarnkrok and 3rd for Ferraro

Robertson Matthews Marner
Knies Tavares Nylander
Bertuzzi Monahan Domi
Gregor Kampf Pezzetta.


1.) 28 Jan 2024 00:11:21
pretty weak package for Monahan and Xhekaj

2.) 28 Jan 2024 00:18:59
Embarrassingly one-sided leaf trade.

3.) 28 Jan 2024 11:39:47
Montreal can get better offers than those players. nothing of value there.

4.) 28 Jan 2024 12:53:52
If and IF we trade xhekaj, it won't be to Toronto or Boston or in our division.



25 Dec 2023 04:23:29
I got roasted for this post on Cap friendly.

But was thinking

Nylander and Samsonov to Carolina for Pesce and Necas and 1st

And 2nd trade

Mcmann Timmins to Seattle for Drieger and Tanev


1.) 04 Jan 2024 19:48:46
That would be a real big ouchy for carolina and seattle.



06 Dec 2023 22:25:04
Montreal: Timmins, Abruzezes and 1st and for Xhekaj and Kovecvic and Pezzetta

Nashville: Liljegrin 1st Cowan for Lauzon and Carrier

San Jose: Timmins Abruzezes 1st for Sturm and Rutta.


1.) 07 Dec 2023 00:35:08
I doubt Montreal trades Xhekaj, let alone send him to their division rivals.

Probably too much from the Leafs on the other 2 trades.

2.) 07 Dec 2023 03:59:59
Lol what all of those Pieces outside of Xhajak who Montreal won’t move are waiver wire players and definitely aren’t worth a 1st. Maybe Carrier, Rutta, etc can return a 4th or late pick but they are a dime in a dozen.

3.) 07 Dec 2023 18:09:32
Toronto gets hosed in each offer.




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10 Feb 2024 15:32:13
If you do redo of the Dubas area what would you change?

My thoughts would
- keep Kadri as 3c,
-keep marchment,
-sign hyman and
-sign strome over Jarnkrok, and
sign better defence

Hyman Matthews Marner
Knies Tavares Nylander
Marchment Kadri Robertson
Lafferty Kampf Marchment

Reilly Brodie
Graves Mccabe
Sandin Benoit.


1.) 10 Feb 2024 19:42:47
Letting O'Reilly and Lafferty walk, trading away durzi.

2.) 19 Feb 2024 08:16:42
I dunno if it all woulda fit in salary. I'm sure every fan of every team wishes they kept certain guys. I wish we kept Phillip Danault as a 3rd line center, ect. but Kadri as a 3rd? He's making to much money, Hyman is making to much. ect.



04 Nov 2023 15:16:52
Jarnkrok 2.1 Liligrin 1.4 and 1st and 2nd for Xhekaj 0.9 and Monahan 1.985.


1.) 04 Nov 2023 20:38:12
Switch Lilijgren out with someone else like Timmons or a prospect, and I’d do it.

2.) 04 Nov 2023 23:19:12
There is no way that Hughes would trade Xhekaj away to the Leafs.

3.) 07 Nov 2023 00:31:01
I agree.




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01 Mar 2024 18:33:12
It's important note only dowd is 50% retained for the deal.




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11 Feb 2024 03:32:18
Chickenfoot why does SJS decline they are getting 1st for a defencemen who would normally get a 2nd and Liljegrin a young proven nhler, serviceable timmins. Rutta will not help them in the next 5 years. So 3 for him.




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11 Jan 2024 01:18:19
I have want to do Jenner for a while is a good fit. Peeke is okay for me but I see him at a comparable to Liljegrin kind of middle of the pack.

I probably try sweeten the pot and get Werenski if I could.




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26 Nov 2023 02:08:12
Massive term difference and think would need to add a prospect.

Doubt this is realistic as leafs didn't want Campbell because of his term.




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04 Nov 2023 00:19:59
Better then waiving him. He 0 for 6 GA Hes not hitting or fighting anymore ( ie Marchand nor even intimidating) does have to be today but soon.





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