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19 Jan 2025 06:25:31
Calgary retained 2m on seth jones, Vancouver:petterson, Chicago , petterson. Calgary gets Toronto 1st, Vancouver 2nd Lukas reichal and crevier and Vancouver takes the
the best 2 2nd round picks 202 year
18 Jan 2025 15:13:21
Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
Soucy*
Toronto Trades
Rielly
Minton (AHL)
VJohansson (Swe)
2nd Round Pick 2025
1st Round Pick 2026
*Canucks retain 50% of Soucy's remaining contract.
Thoughts ?
17 Jan 2025 19:07:40
Vancouver: petterson chicago: Jones, reichal, hall 50% retained, prospect Ryan Greene
18 Jan 2025 05:26:38
Id like comments by who put unbelievable. Why? Canucks get a 1st round pick? Hall at half price. Top 4 defenseman. Reichel probably
would thrive in Vancouver Petterson signed forever. Same as Jones. Id just like some feedback.
18 Jan 2025 05:57:52
Retain Jones at 50% and it’s closer but they already made that mistake with OEL. Hall at 50% is worth like a 4th.
18 Jan 2025 20:11:27
Hmm, I've read hall 50% is worth a 2nd, without a 3rd or 4th. Jones is a top pairing and it's not like petterson is on a great deal, hes 2 million more than jones. Vancouver wants a top 4 de and Jones can fill that next 5 years for sure. He's a bit overpaid but is petterson playing like he worth 11.5?
16 Jan 2025 18:16:40
Chi: Jones, Vancouver Jt Miller.
16 Jan 2025 00:53:12
Montreal trades with Dallas
Mtl sends David Savard and a 3 rd
To Dallas for mavrik Bourque
This gives mtl a replacement for the 3rd line center trade Dvorak or evans ( if the offer is too good to say no)
16 Jan 2025 02:25:31
I'm not opposed to this. I just don't know if Dallas would say yes.
16 Jan 2025 10:23:11
I simply dont see them doing this. Makes more sence to offer draft capital instead of promising young guys. These young guys are intouchtables IMO.
Johnston, Wyatt
Bourque, Mavrik
Stankoven, Logan
What is equivalent (in draft picks) to Savard? Maybe.
2nd round without retention?
plus 5th with rentention?
16 Jan 2025 16:05:56
change it to Savard, 2nd, Mesar for Bourque.
16 Jan 2025 17:10:49
LOOKYN17: I think that valuation looks about right for Savard.
The big determination though will be how many RD are available, and who needs what. For a defensive/ shut-down RD like Savard, I see EDM as needing him the most. However, EDM doesn't have as many trade assets to work with.
15 Jan 2025 21:23:22
Habs Trade
Habs Trade 2025 1st, 2nd, Josh Roy and $$ Anderson
Pit Trade Sid
16 Jan 2025 00:35:22
PIT hangs up. This just isn’t a fit for either team, and Sid has way more value than this.
16 Jan 2025 02:30:16
I'm not really sure what the cost would be to get Crosby. Players don't age like they did back in the day, when 30 was considered old., way more physical fit and more awareness to longevity. However with that being said, reality sets in and he is in his late 30s. still a top 10 player in the game. for how much longer though? These older Superstars are hard to put a value on.
16 Jan 2025 12:48:39
If you're a playoff team and you feel he's the missing piece than I still think he gets a top 6 forward, one of the teams top 3 listed prospects, a 1st, and maybe additional draft capital.
I think only two teams he'd maybe consider going to would be the AVS and the Habs. But I tend to think he just stays a Pen.
16 Jan 2025 13:04:52
Honestly I would give up both 1st round 2025 Filip mesar and kidney or Luke tuch for Sid!
15 Jan 2025 08:16:49
What do you think about this one?
BOS:
Coyle, Charlie - $5,250,000
Carlo, Brandon - $4,100,000
Poitras, Matthew - $870,000
2025 1st Round Pick - without protection
VAN:
Pettersson, Elias - $11,600,000
2025 4th Round Pick
Boston getting true 1st center and Vancouver in exchange solid 2nd pair RHD + 2nd RH center. Plus promising young kid. He showed some promise last season. Then BOS also add 1st round pick. I think this helps both sides.
15 Jan 2025 16:20:35
not bad, but I wonder if Patterson fits the Boston player mold.
15 Jan 2025 18:21:23
Decent place holder/ bandages in Coyle and Carlo. But unless VAN thinks Poitras is going to be a stud then they easily pass on this.
15 Jan 2025 19:41:37
Yeah no chance from Vancouver.
16 Jan 2025 02:31:08
I think it seems pretty fair. I could see this.
16 Jan 2025 10:30:43
vbbbvvbb, Ebsolutely
Why no chance from VAN?
VAN is looking for proven def - Brandon Carlo is capable of playing in TOP 4 + is RHD, that is very valuable in present
In some news is also said that they want in return center also - Charlie Coyle is capable of playing as 2nd C for them + RH too (again +)
BOS also adds 1st rounder and promising young player to play in their top 9, can turn into top 6 in near future.
I think that this is kinda good deal, ofc in term of value. There is also question, if VAN consider these players as possible options. Who knows.
16 Jan 2025 13:11:49
Elias Pettersson is elite and requires at minimum a high upside prospect. Poitras has almost zero offensive upside, Carlo is a meh 4th D and Coyle is a good 3rd liner. Elias for Noah Dobson is a speculative swap. This would be awful for Vancouver.
16 Jan 2025 18:21:00
This is quantity over quality. Coyle peaked at a low end 2nd line center but is actually an expensive 3rd line center. Carlo is a mid to low end top 4.
Agree Petterson is elite so they’d need at least a piece that is high high end coming back.
17 Jan 2025 13:10:59
And who is that #2C? Certainly not Coyle. If he was, Boston wouldn't let him go.
17 Jan 2025 21:19:43
If you're going to try screwing the Bruins, at least buy them dinner first.
14 Jan 2025 00:11:10
Toronto:
Mikael Granlund C
Nico Sturm C
San Jose:
Nicholas Robertson RW
Roni Hirvonen C
Braeden Kressler C
2nd 2025
14 Jan 2025 13:52:14
Granlund is going to cost a lot. Most people dot realize how sought out he’s going to be at the deadline.
14 Jan 2025 15:39:31
"Les Habitants" always makes me laugh with his MTL sounding name, and 100% leaf-friendly trades.
This is like a Pinball trade, and hiding who you really cheer for is a fool's errand: only one team wins the Cup each year, so why hide who you cheer for?
SJ hangs up on "Les leafs".
16 Jan 2025 12:55:03
I like the idea of going after Granlund, but it would cost us more than that. He's having a really good year for SJ and is going to get them a good return if they choose to deal him.
13 Jan 2025 22:15:03
Chi: Jones, reichal. Sens: norris, pinto. Never happen but what you guys think value wise?
14 Jan 2025 03:13:12
I really hope the sens do not do this.
14 Jan 2025 16:02:54
I agree with Crozier - this would be terrible for the Sens.
Also, Jones never planned on playing on a rebuilding team, which is how it turned out for him in CHI. There's no way he'd wave his NMC to join another team that isn't yet contending.
15 Jan 2025 15:57:00
@chickenfoot wouldn’t you say that the senators are closer to contending then the blackhawks. It seems like he’d basically rather be anywhere else than chicago. Not a whole lot of talent even compared to a team like the senators.
16 Jan 2025 00:40:08
Me & Me: Jones is 30. Everyone is closer to contending than CHI. He isn’t waiving for OTT.
13 Jan 2025 15:25:56
Toronto Trades
Rielly
Reaves
Minton (AHL)
2nd Round Pick 2025 (FLAs Pick)
Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
Soucy
5th Round Pick 2025
Of course any player that has a NTC or NMC in their contract will have to waive it.
2 teams looking to make a trade or a few more deal with Vancouver dealing with issues including what each Roster will be looking at.
Thoughts ?
14 Jan 2025 16:14:58
IF anyone really upvoted this Pinball post, can you post your reply here? It's pretty obvious it's Pinball upvoting Pinball.
- Puts the leafs over the cap.
- If VCR trades Miller, they'll get a better return than this, and they won't have to include Soucy and 5th, nor will they have to take on Ryan Reaves' contract for this year or next.
Get real Pinball.
14 Jan 2025 18:01:49
Chickenfoot
I don't upvote my posts.
Number 2 if you breakdown the proposal it's Rielly and a 2nd Rounder for Miller, and Minton and Reaves for Soucy and a 5th Rounder which imo is about right.
As for being over the cap it won't be by a lot and another move of course would have to happen.
15 Jan 2025 03:38:59
HAHA who's going to quarter back the top power play for toronto? Jake McCabe? OEL?
I think the leafs would decline. It's a no Brainerd Van declines.
15 Jan 2025 14:11:33
need to add to take Reaves. Also, Toronto needs better defense. Miller plays good 2 way but you need focused help on that blue line.
12 Jan 2025 23:57:59
I think habs got to reward their core with a blockbuster trade during season and petterson fits the bill ( a lot of smoke coming from Vancouver)
Mtl sends : josh Anderson, kapanen, struble, Calgary 1st
To Vancouver for :
Elias petterson
Montreal also deals with devils
MTL sends : mtl 1st round and Jake evans
To New Jersey for : nemec
Montreal lineup
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Dach petterson laine
Heinemen Newhook Roy
Gallagher Dvorak armia
Def:
Matheson hutson
Carrier Guhle
Savard or nemec xhejaj
2025-26
Slavkosky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov petterson laine
Newhook dach Roy
Heinemen beck Gallagher
Défense
Matheson hutson
Nemec Guhle
Carrier xhejaj
Mailloux engstrom
With reinbacher, hage, Mesar getting ready to take a spot,
13 Jan 2025 02:22:25
Vancouver says no to the first one. You're not going to be able to dump Anderson for free. He will cost a 1st minimum to dump according to puck pedia.
Jersey says no to the 2nd. Nothing there helps them.
13 Jan 2025 12:47:37
I would agree with Memarcus.
Pettersson is absolutely the wrong kind of addition for the Habs. He doesn't have the mental makeup to help a team become a contender, and is easily defended at playoff time. He's also grossly overpaid. Adding him would hamstring the habs cap for years to come, much how the leafs added Tavares and then never had the cap space to finish their rebuild, especially on the back end.
Nemec is a great young D, and no way NJ trades him unless it's a huge overpay. MTL has lots of good young D coming, so there's no need to deviate from their rebuild. They'll add some more young talent to the roster next year, so no need to skip any steps in the rebuild.
13 Jan 2025 12:47:42
memarcusjoe. there was a first included in the Vancouver trade. but always cautious about players that may cause issues (McGroarty, Gauthier, Matthews) . seem to have ego issues. I agree on passing.
13 Jan 2025 13:27:04
Balsam8. The first is likely a mid-first, so not all that interesting plus I find it highly doubtful Vancouver wants to trade their 1C for futures.
13 Jan 2025 19:37:01
How does Nemec fetch a better return then Pettersson lol.
13 Jan 2025 22:15:08
I don't see this working for any of the teams involved. I think Chicnenfoot explained it best.
For Montreal, I think best thing to do is minor tweaks, but stay tbe path Gorton and Hughes have set.
15 Jan 2025 14:14:36
I agree with Sosa. this rebuild has been going well, play it out.
16 Jan 2025 13:10:21
I think Pettersson would be a great add for the Habs tbh. Most Habs fans were leery about bringing in Laine with concerns of his work ethic and attitude. safe to say it worked out. If they can get him without giving up a significant prospect then why not? Big contract, but the core players are already signed to team friendly deals. Most of the D prospects are right on the cusp of being ready for the NHL so Matheson and Savard can likely be moved soon.
A one two punch of Suzuki and Pettersson is damn good imo. Sometimes guys just need a change of scenery to go back to the player they were.
18 Jan 2025 15:22:09
Well hate to burst everyone's bubble as a diehard canucks fan if anyone is getting traded it won't be pettey it will be the guy that can't keep his emotions in check and basically ripped a strip up his coach after last night's loss. Ultimately it doesn't make sense to trade pettersen first off he is younger and second he isn't a head case like Miller.
18 Jan 2025 20:57:06
@Vancityguy just curious if you think Miller's actions may diminish his trade value or not?
After seeing him go on off on the HC it was made pretty clear the guy doesn't want to be there anymore. Curious to see where he ends up.
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