NHL rumours 2

10 Jun 2021 04:15:27
Tanev and Gaudreau for Marner and Dermott

10 Jun 2021 05:31:53
Calgary needs a RW not a LW. With Tkachuk, Mangiapane and Gaudreau the Flames already have too many top 6 LW. They don't need another, especially not one who's way overpaid, is only a little bigger than Gaudreau and nearly as soft.

Calgary would have absolutely no interest in Dermott. They aren't going to trade Tanev (their best defensive defenseman) either unless they're getting a better right shot RD to replace him.

Seth Jones now. If it was up to me I'd trade Gaudreau and Tanev for Jones no problem. Or if Columbus adds Bjorkstrand I'd add something else and I'd even think about making it Andersson instead of Tanev.

10 Jun 2021 07:54:36
Moxnix, in all honesty if Calgary gets offered Marner straight up for Gaudreau and Taney they take it 100%. Marner has his own problems but he would be the best player on your team and you would have him for longer then probably both the guys you giving up. Marker has more value then this tho. And this is coming from a Habs fan.

10 Jun 2021 12:01:39
@moxnix
Marner is a Right winger and former junior linemate of Tkachuk back in Junior, when they won the Memorial Cup.
He is a much better player than Gaudreau, and I strongly dislike the Leafs.
As a Canuck fan, I am well aware of how good Tanev is, one of the best defensive defensemen in the league,

10 Jun 2021 12:12:01
Lmao Marner has never played LW in his life. He played centre a little bit in Junior and in minor hockey but never LW. He is a right hand shot the Calgary doesn’t have. Also Marner would have the most take aways and block shots for forwards on the flames so how does that make him soft.

Zero interest in this as a leafs fan.

10 Jun 2021 15:04:25
I also would like to add that Marner was better then Matthews in the round against Habs. Yes Matthews scored 1 goal. But Marner was more implicated and had a lot more quality scoring chances that he created for himself. Plus he killed a lot of penalties. I thought he could of done better but he wasn’t bad by any means. Price was just too damn good!

10 Jun 2021 15:49:08
Marner is overpaid. WAY overpaid. No way Calgary takes on that contract.

10 Jun 2021 16:42:10
They took on Neal and Lucic lmao.

10 Jun 2021 16:46:23
Marner won’t get traded.
Calgary is a seller looking for rebuilding pieces not a buyer.

10 Jun 2021 17:50:40
Calgary isn't selling or rebuilding. They're retooling.

10 Jun 2021 18:56:13
If the leafs trade Marner it better be for a guy like Tkachuk, not another soft player. Marner is a great player and yes Nylander he does a lot of those things well, including killing penalties. Saying he’s soft is because he avoids contact for the most part. That doesn’t work in the playoffs. I wouldn’t trade Marner unless someone nasty and talented was coming back. Look how young the leafs core is, other than Tavares, no need to give up on them. They just need their balls to drop. I know I’ve said myself I would trade Nylander but that’s just because I don’t like his defensive play. They were so close to finishing the habs in 5, maybe they deserve to mature some more to take that next step. A lot of people said their window was closing, not even close IMO. They’ve already replaced Andersen and Sandin looks great for his age. I don’t want to lose Hyman but I’m sure he’s replaceable.

10 Jun 2021 22:45:56
I don’t think any team wants a playoff liability in Tkachuk who does nothing offensively or Defensively. Atleast Marner gets a lot of chances and is an elite PKer.

11 Jun 2021 00:51:19
@Toronto17 I agree with most of your points.

That's pretty much exactly how Flames fans view Gaudreau. Yes he's a very talented player but he's soft, avoids contact and that doesn't work in the playoffs.

If we're going to trade Gaudreau we want someone fairly talented and a whole lot grittier coming back. Not another highly skilled but soft player, especially not one making > $4 million more than he does.

Also Nylander was pretty good in this year's playoffs. It would be foolish to trade him now.

But hey if Toronto fans insist. Gaudreau for Nylander sounds a heck of lot better now than it did at the start of this season. :)

11 Jun 2021 01:27:50
I don’t believe they have replaced Anderson to be honest with you Toronto17. Campbell is a great stop gap but he isn’t a true number 1 goalie. If Montreal had Jack Campbell and Toronto had Carey Price, it would be Toronto waiting on who they are playing next.

11 Jun 2021 22:50:36
JAnderson, Campbell was not at fault for losing. There weakness was there forwards only. Campbell played pretty good in the series. Not willing to guarantee he is not a potential number one.

12 Jun 2021 15:30:20
Campbell is as good as Andersen is what I was getting at. I didn’t say he was one of the top goalies in the league like Price is.

10 Jun 2021 03:58:33
Stl - tarasenko

For

Edm 1st 2021 Dmitri Samorukov.

10 Jun 2021 02:30:27
Leafs fantasy proposals. This will never happen mainly because Tavares will never waive and would make the leafs look terrible if he were to be moved.

Post expansion

Leafs: John Tavares

Minnesota: Marcus Foligno and Joel Ericksson EK

Minnastota gets desperate help at C and the leafs get a heart and soul player + a young 2way 3C.

Post Expansion

Leafs: Mitch Marner, B prospect, Travis Dermott and 1st 2021

Arizona: Phil Kessel, Connor Garland and Jacob Chychrun

Arizona brings in a young player who puts fans in seats + a prospect and pick for Garland who was rumoured to be on block so basically Marner for Chychrun and Kessel as a overpayed rental.

Pre expansion

Toronto: Morgan Rielly

Winnipeg: Andrew Copp and 1st 2022

The jets get a great offensive dman who can eat huge minutes and have 2 amazing potential partners in Demelo/Poink

Kerfoot gets claimed in expansion draft.

Signing-
Saad-5x4mil
Bonino-1x2.5 million
Riemer-3x1.5 million
Spezza-1x700k
Simmonds-1x700k
Hyman-7x3.8 mil
Bogosian-1x700k

Hyman-Mathews-Garland
Saad-JEK-Nylander
Copp-Bonino-Kessel
Foligno-Spezza-Simmonds

Chychrun-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Bogosian

Campbell
Riemer

10 Jun 2021 13:35:11
You would need to definitely drop the 22 1st as the Jets aren't moving that for a rental, all offense, no defense LD. Copp would work, but only if he refuses to sign an extension. If Copp is extended at a reasonable price then Reilly would need an add.

10 Jun 2021 13:52:11
The Jet wouldn't trade a 1st for a rental in Rielly unless they plan to trade him at next years trade deadline for an improved 1st plus a good prospect.

10 Jun 2021 15:40:15
Tavares has an NTC, I don’t think hell move anywhere anytime.

The Chych trade is intriguing. I think Chych + Garland = Marner, so the rest for Kessel may be too light but its probabky close.

For Mo, Copp and a 1st may be a bit too high, Copp and 2nd maybe? Just cause Mo isn’t signed ling term and Copp is coming off a career year.

10 Jun 2021 16:43:03
That’s what I said in the 1st paragraph.

11 Jun 2021 11:56:25
Andrew Copp is really overrated on this site. Adding to Morgan Reilly to acquire a decent third line centre. Just Reilly’s right to negotiate with him at the end of next year would almost be worth Copp.

11 Jun 2021 12:27:47
Kessel sont waive to go back to Toronto, like never.

09 Jun 2021 20:17:44
Greenway

For

1st Amirov Kerfoot

10 Jun 2021 12:13:24
Kerfoot for Greenway straight up is pretty fair. Why are the leafs adding not 1 but 2 1sts.

10 Jun 2021 14:44:44
greenway is better younger bigger and has a better contract with a lot of team control. he’s improving every year and I seriously doubt kerfoot would even be considered in a return for him and I’m not a kerfoot hater like some on here. Greenway will not be cheap to aquire. this probably doesn’t interest minny at all. They already have players like kerfoot the prospect is a hit or miss at this point and the first I’m assuming is in 2022.

10 Jun 2021 16:49:50
Too much for a third line player. Amirov was just a recent first (14th oa last year) and the 1st could be who knows how high w the Leafs.

11 Jun 2021 11:49:49
I’m assuming the Leafs are picking around 15-20 this year?

11 Jun 2021 23:30:41
They don’t have a first this year.

09 Jun 2021 14:25:15
EDM - 2022 4th round pick (COL)
DET - Neal, Jones, Kahun [RFA Rights]
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SEA - Lagesson (Expansion Draft)
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EDM - 2021 5th round pick
SEA - Turris, 2021 6th round pick
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EDM - 2021 4th round pick (OTT)
NYR - Khaira
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Re-Sign;
Yamamoto 2yrs @ $2.5M
Larsson 3yrs @ $3M
Smith 1yr @ $2M

Sign;
Getzlaf 1yr @ $4M
Coleman 2yrs @ $4M
Oleksiak 2yrs @ $3M
Driedger 2yrs @ $2.5M
Haula 1yr @ $2M
Goodrow 2yrs @ $2M
Glendening 1yr @ $1.5M

Cap Space - $8M

Lines;
Draisaitl - McDavid - Kassian
Coleman - Getzlaf - Puljujärvi
Holloway - Haula - Yamamoto
Goodrow - Glendening - Archibald

Nurse - Bear
Klefbom - Larrson
Oleksiak - Bouchard

Smith / Driedger

09 Jun 2021 16:54:17
why would the wings do that?

09 Jun 2021 22:34:33
It would cost more than that to take the rest of Neal’s dead weight contract.

No matter who you send him to, they would want more. Think like a pair of 2nds or a late first would probably be the ask.

Also Detroit may have good interest in keeping Glenndenning so you may not be able to sign him.

If we weren’t, he likely would have got moved at the deadline.

09 Jun 2021 13:34:20
Rielly with extension

For

Trouba 2mil retained

09 Jun 2021 14:49:28
Trouba dosent waive.

09 Jun 2021 16:56:35
Trouba is garbage now too.

09 Jun 2021 03:35:47
to LA
Jones
7th 2021

to Columbus
1st 2021
Maatta (500k retained)

08 Jun 2021 14:55:17
Tor: Reilly Kerfoot amirov
Phi: Konecny Myers

Robertson Matthews Marner
Konecny Tavares Nylander

Sandin Brodie
Muzzin Myers

Leafs over the past have held on to their own rentals and it has hurt them more times then not they know they can't resign Reilly so they need to try and get something for him out Robertson with the big boys and watch him get a real chance to show what he's got worse case is Robertson doesn't do as well and you give him another year it really doesn't matter who's there you know where the production is coming from

08 Jun 2021 19:29:01
Flyers absolutely decline. The right side took a huge hit when Niskannen retired and they can’t afford to move Myers.

08 Jun 2021 21:18:06
Rielly > Konecny
Myers > Kerfoot and Amirov

So it’s fair imo but Philadelphia doesn’t need another LD and Toronto does need another RW. Also Philly has no need for Kerfoot as they have Couturier, Patrick, Frost down the middle
Toronto has Marner and Nylander
Philadelphia has Provorov and Sanheim.

09 Jun 2021 02:24:41
Patrick is gone this off-season and Frost plays the wing.