NHL rumours 2

29 May 2025 21:13:26
Tor: Rielly, robertson

Ana: zegras, 2025 2nd

Sign:
Gavrikov 4x7m
Ekblad 8x8m

So this gets the leafs a skilled player for the 3rd line. Aswell as changes the dynamic of the defense. We'd still have money left over to sign JT and knies. While moving other peices to fill some gaps

Tor: McMann Kampf nemiela 2025 2nd (lowest)
Utah: schmaltz (1.25m retained)

Here we have a playmaker with skill to play the 2nd line, also able to play center.

Sign
roslovic 3x4m
Lorentz 2x900k

Domi Matthews Nylander
Knies JT schmalt
Zegras Laughton roslovic
Holmberg Lorentz jarnkrok

Gavrikov - ekblad
McCabe tanev
Oel - Carlo.

30 May 2025 13:32:02
There's not really any incentive for the grams that aren't Toronto to do those. Very Pinbally type trades.

30 May 2025 14:09:56
Teams not grams. Stoopid autocorrect.

29 May 2025 15:53:55
Anaheim Trades
Terry
Gauthier
1st Round Pick 2025 (10th Overall)

Toronto Trades
WNylander*


*WNylander will have to waive his NTC.



Ducks looking to make that next step and have enough good young players to make a deal like this going forward.

Toronto gets 2 solid Players back with Gauthier maybe being the best player going to The Leafs and free up some Cap to continue to change as Treliving said The DNA of the team.



Thoughts ?

29 May 2025 17:42:56
Not a chance the Ducks consider moving all that for Nylander. 2 comparable players and a high first, typical pinball.

A landslide trade win for Toronto and a deal that ends up getting the Anaheim GM fired.

29 May 2025 21:46:15
memarcusjoe.
So now WNylander isn't an elite player?
WNylander is the best player in my proposal and when you want an elite player like WNylander in his prime you're not getting him for a couple 4th liners.

29 May 2025 22:02:41
To add to Memarcus, why would a team that’s taking the time to build it slowly and correctly do this? Because they’d rather see the leafs succeed than themselves?

When your only criteria is what helps the leafs and ignores what another team needs, you get trade proposals like this: one-sides, leaf-loving trades that ignore what the non-leaf trade needs.

29 May 2025 22:58:27
Chickenfoot
The Ducks have more young good players and prospects then they do vets, they don't have an elite player in their prime though and markets like Anaheim look for this to sell more tickets, jerseys etc.
The NHL is very much a business as well and so many like yourself think it's just about playing hockey.
It isn't there is so much more involved, that's why a team like Anaheim would be looking to make a splash like this imo.

30 May 2025 03:33:15
Pinball, who said anything about elite?

You're coming to Anaheim asking for two top players, plus a first round pick to take your overpaid, complimentary winger.

Just as you have realized now, the benefit of having two players, the pick and the flexibilty that gives you is better than one guy taking up a huge chunk of cap.

With their timeline, Anaheim is better off with Gauthier and the pick as opposed to still have to pay Nylander 11.5 mil as he begins his decline when they are ready for the playoffs.

Anaheim is not obligated to bail Toronto out of their cap mismanagement.

30 May 2025 16:34:52
You make the rest of us Leaf fans look bad.

1) Nylander isn't going to all of a sudden make the Ducks a playoff team.

2) We would be selling so low on him. People just watched him put out next to zero effort in our final 3-4 games of the playoffs. We look like fools for paying him north of $10mill with the effort he was putting out.

3) ANA isn't going to trade away their future for a player who is going to have them in the same position as they were before. He may sell them a few more jerseys, but ultimately winning games sells tickets.

The change that's coming is Marner is walking. We shouldn't be willing to go above $11mill for him and I think he wants to leave too for a fresh start. From what I've gathered he's not interested in a sign and situation either so we are unlikely to recoup any assets for him; that's the nature of the beast though.

Hopefully JT gets brought back at a decent cap hit, Knies gets locked down for 5+ years, and we go after some guys to really fill out our team that are the type of guys to drag yah through the mud in the guts of the game. We do that and we are going to be a much better team come playoff time. Regular season success is cool and all, but the playoffs is what actually matters.

30 May 2025 17:24:57
memarcusjoe
Top 5 RW scoring leaders this past season.
1. Kucherov
2. Pastrnak
3. Marner
4. Rantanen
5. WNylander
How can defend that he isn't an elite RWinger?

30 May 2025 18:18:08
As usual Pinball the point goes right over your head. I never mentioned anything about whether Nylander was elite or not, you're just trying to argue something with yourself, because you have nothing else realistic to offer on how this helps Anaheim.

So, instead of trying to deflect and argue against a point that neither myself or anyone else made, make an argument for what was actually said to defend your trade.

Tell me why Anaheim guts their future by trading away a high end young player just entering his prime, for an overpaid player, soon to be 30 and exiting his prime, just because it helps Toronto free themselves from a bad contract?

That's what I want to hear about from you. Not an argument against yourself about semantics.

30 May 2025 18:22:57
Even fellow Leaf fans are telling you it's extremely biased in favour of Toronto.

02 Jun 2025 16:36:02
Pinball. listen to your fellow leaf fans. You're embarrassing yourself. Your conclusions, and the logic behind them, are deeply flawed.

I'm REALLY looking forward to the two-month break from your posts when Marner doesn't re-sign with the leafs.

26 May 2025 15:01:16
New Jersey gets:
Matheson 50% retained (2.4375 mil)
Mallioux
Laine 50% retained (4.35 mil)
2025 2nd

Montreal Gets:
Nemec
mercer (4 mil)

Although montreal has Rienbacher I could see line up being

Hutson-Nemec
Guhle-reinbacher.

26 May 2025 15:30:40
C'mon be serious. Why on earth would Jersey do that?

26 May 2025 16:56:45
I see why Jersey doesn't do this, also, I don't want Habs to do this either.

27 May 2025 01:54:10
Honestly I think habs could get nemec for matheson 50% retained + 17th overall
New Jersey has a lot of right handed defenders
Hamilton, Casey, pesce, kovacevic… devils adding matheson makes them better and habs adding rhd nemec fits the plan of a rebuild
MTL future pairings
Hutson nemec
Guhle reinbacher
Xehjaj Mailloux.

27 May 2025 16:34:22
Habs decline.

28 May 2025 05:05:57
Mailoux , Reinbacher , Engstrom and also that Bogdonovic???? Something like that in KHL, Habs don't need any young Dman..

24 May 2025 23:03:46
Montreal has 18 million in cap space
I think if they want they could trade laine to Vancouver for a 2nd round which would clear 8.7 to make it roughly 27 million
Montreal trades with wild
Habs send 17th overall, 2nd and 3rd
To wild for Marco Rossi sign him to 6yrs 6 million
Montreal trades with rangers
Habs send 16th overall, Newhook, struble and beck or Heineman
To rangers for Alexis Lafrenière 7.4 per
Habs sign Johnathan Toews 1yr 2,5
MTL still has 15,5 million in cap space
Slavkosky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov Rossi Lafrenière
Dach Toews Gallagher
Anderson Evans flo xhejaj

25 May 2025 00:12:13
Just remember Hutson needs to be signed. And Demidov soon as well. I know cap is going up, but both are gonna command a hefty price

Id kick some tires on Kuznetsov from KHL.. I'm not a huge fan, but I'm thinking for Demidov .. maybe a 2 year 4m per..
Love to see Lafreniere in a Habs uniform, but not at expense of Heineman , Struble ect..
Whats exciting about the Habs is the depth they have with these young stars.. They need the Heinemans and Strubles to win. I think some minor tweaks are needed, but now it's time to let the boys grow into what they are.

25 May 2025 02:16:22
By the time Hutson new contract is up the cap is rumoured to be 8.5 million more so habs would have 24 million + Mathesons 5 million off, so there’s plenty of money for demidov and Hutson then the next year there’s Gallagher and Anderson off the books that’s another 12 million . Habs are in a great spot!

29 May 2025 13:53:15
I don't see the Canucks making any trade for Laine, but I could see a trade where Habs acquire 15th overall, for the 16th overall and 1 of the Habs 2nd round picks.
This would be contingent on whether Carbonneau is available at 15th.

23 May 2025 23:20:11
My very Flames-favoured offseason (feel free to cook me)
Draft Weekend:
To CGY: 2nd overall
To SJ: Connor Zary, Rasmus Andersson, Sam Honzek/Aydar Suniev, Henry Mews

To CGY: 13th overall, 75th overall
To DET: Blake Coleman (50% retained for 2 seasons), FLA 1st (29-32), Daniil Miromanov

Calgary Drafts:
2 - Micheal Misa/Matthew Schaefer
13 - Brady Martin/Jake Obrien
18 - Braeden Cootes/Roger McQueen
54 - Eric Nilson/Cole McKinney/Will Horcoff
75 & 80 - Theo Stockselius/Philip Veilleux/Filip Ekberg/Peyton Kettles/Haoxi Wang

July 1st:
To CGY: Marco Rossi
To MIN: Nazem Kadri
(This deal doesn't NEED to happen if Calgary gets misa + Martin but that's unlikely to happen)
CGY signs Rossi to 7x7

Sign Vlad Gavrikov 7m x 3 years to play with Parekh (or with Weegar if Bahl is better with Parekh)

Resign Vladar or go sign Jake Allen if you don't trust Devin Cooley.

Extend Bahl (RFA) to 5m x 7-8 years
Extend Wolf (RFA) to 8-9m x 8 years
Sign Frost to 2-3 years at most. $ doesn't matter for that contract (call it between 3.5-5m).

Roll into opening night with:

Huberdeau-Rossi-Coronato
Sharangovich-Frost-Pospisil
Stromgren-Backlund-Farabee
Lomberg-Kirkland-Klapka

Gavrikov-Weegar
Bahl-Parekh
Kuznetsov-Pachal
Bean

Wolf
Vladar

The hope is this roster is dog water and lands us Mckenna, Stennberg, or Rooboreck.

Enter 2026 with

Mckenna-Rossi-Coronato
Sharangovich-Misa-Gridin
Huberdeau-Frost-Farabee
Stromgren-Pospisil-Klapka

24 May 2025 19:54:08
That is very busy. If they could pull that all off they would be set for future.

26 May 2025 19:23:14
Great thoughts. I feel you are selling low on Anderson. Anderson (with 50% retained and then an extension with the new team), Honzek and Mews should get you the 2025 second.

Instead of the Detroit trade I would take the same Calgary players and make the trade with Minnesota for Rossi.

This should put us near a McKenna draft position since Wolf is going to have an off year.

21 May 2025 20:20:45
Buccigross that crosby would only waive to play for mtl, if it happens,mtl would have a bit of leverage for that trade.


Habs- 17th pick overall 2025,41th pick 2025, 1st pick 2026, kapanen,mailloux,strubble,Roy,dobes, laine 50% retain

Pits- crosby, letang 33% retain

Then Pittsburgh can flip laine too and chase mckenna

Habs sign fleury 1year 2m
Habs sign trent Frédéric 4year 16 M

Caufield-suzuki-slaf
Demidov-crosby-dach
Newhook-frederic-anderson
Heineman-evans-gallagher

Guhle-hutson
Mattheson-letang
Xhekaj-reinbacher

Montenbault- fleury

22 May 2025 01:30:32
What is the first word, and what is meant by the 4 1th pick in 2025?

22 May 2025 15:41:04
Chickenfoot, he means ESPN reporter John Buccigross and I believe the 41st overall pick for your other question.

22 May 2025 19:00:54
Thanks Memarcusjoe!

Habs decline.

23 May 2025 18:06:51
The Crosby To Montreal is a great idea for.... Habs fans. However it's more than likely not gonna happen

Also, I believe the Gorton/Hughes idea is to make the Habs a power team for years , not just potentially a couple of years. I don't see them sending that many young peices and draft capital for guys that are still great, but pushing 40 and in the twilight of their careers..

24 May 2025 13:08:18
Well said Sosa👍.

24 May 2025 13:46:31
A Pittsburg journalist, and the 41th selection in the 2025 draft, habs first second pick.

19 May 2025 15:51:44
Here we go it's been a while since I posted but here is my Leaf off season proposal.

Seattle Trades
McCann
CFleury (RFA)
Stephens (AHL)

Toronto Trades
McMann
Kampf
Jarnkrok
McCabe

I also believe they will resign Marner and Tavares and also go hard on signing Marchand and Bennett as character players are lacking on The Leafs imo.
There will be changes no doubt but they aren't going to tear it down either.


Thoughts ?

19 May 2025 19:50:31
Marchand never wanted to go there in the 1st place so no chance he goes now and why would sea want 4th liners for mccann.

19 May 2025 20:33:44
Laughable they r not resigning either marner or Tavares. Certainly not going to be able to sign both plus Marchand and Bennett 😂😂😂.

20 May 2025 13:16:26
- The fact you think the leafs would even consider re-signing Marner, or that he'd want to re-sign there, shows what you know about even your favourite team.

- The fact that you think the leafs would have the cap space (or the interest) to re-sign Marner & Tavares, and somehow magically sign Bennett & Marchand, shows what you know about the business of hockey.

- The fact you continue to post garbage trade after garbage trade, despite years of feedback saying your trades are absolutely beyond the realm of possibility, shows that you're incapable of intaking information and adjusting.

I have to hand it to you leaf fans. you're the most patient fanbase on the planet. The most overhyped rebuild in hockey yielded two series wins in almost a decade and the most embarrasing Game 7 record in hockey. I honestly don't know how you cheer for a team like that.

21 May 2025 12:52:48
Chickenfoot just knows it all lol.
Yes they will resign Marner because teams don't let elite players walk for nothing, I hope you apologize to me on here when Marner and Tavares are resigned.
Cheers.

21 May 2025 17:04:22
Nice of the NHL to let us not have a salary cap in your trade and signing scenario. Only way that would be even remotely possible.

We're only going to be able to keep a combo of 2/ 3 of Marner, Tavares, and Knies. My hope is we keep Knies and maybe Tavares if the deal is low enough. We can't afford to pay three guys north of $11mill and fill the rest of the team with 'meh' players. If we want to do any sort of damage in the playoffs our team needs to score by committee and that only happens if you have a deeper, well rounded team.

Ideally we get Knies signed to a Slaf like deal, ideally less would be even better. We move Jarnkrok and Kampf for late draft picks to teams trying to hit the cap floor. Time for some of these AHL guys to get a legitimate look. Leaves the Leafs around around $17mill roughly I believe. Can look to add maybe a bigger name like Boeser, Ehlers, Ekbald under $10mill. Then go after some better depth like Fredric, Granlund, Tanev, etc. Won't be able to sign em all but we'd be a much deeper team going forward if we could add a few of them.

Going to be an interesting off-season.

21 May 2025 19:53:43
Pinball…I would be HAPPY to apologize to you if the leafs resign Marner.

Shall I assume you’ll own it if they don’t resign Marner? You’re good for that I assume?

21 May 2025 20:53:15
Chickenfoot yes I am a man of my word if Marner signs elsewhere I wil post an apology to you personally.

22 May 2025 01:36:37
Pinball…an apology is a little dramatic, just own it, that’s all. You post a lot of crazy crap, so if Marner doesn’t re-sign, just give everyone a 2-month break from your posts. I’ll do the same👍.

22 May 2025 12:51:35
Deal Chickenfoot.

23 May 2025 03:04:54
Pinball 👍.

23 May 2025 18:11:46
Please don't take 2 months off, either of you , this site has lost alot of people over the years. Your guys banter back and forth is good reading at time lol

Anyway.. I think Marner is done in Toronto, I could see Tavares taking a home town discount to stay in Toronto, to retire a Leaf. Bennett to Toronto also sounds realistic, id personally not like that as a Habs fan.
I dont know what it is about the Leafs, but they just don't seem to have any heart..It seems like a bad character team, and they should consider blowing it up and starting over.

23 May 2025 23:29:11
@Sosahabs24! the issue is they don't have a genuine drag you through the mud leader that's won on the roster. You need that kind of player to do well, especially when you're in the guts of the game. Bennett checks that bill, but I don't think he leaves Florida. I think Marner is gone. Seems like he's ready for a fresh start and I think the Leafs are as well. The realization that we can't pay three guys north of $10mill and build an effective roster has hopefully sunk in. Tavares brought back on a cheap deal would be alright. 30+ goal scorer, good on the dot, battles hard. His foot speed is an issue obviously tho.

24 May 2025 13:12:28
MG loves his team but is never a Homer. Full respect for that. 👍.

18 May 2025 16:39:00
I wonder if habs would consider adding zegras on the cheap .. (5.75 1 yr)
trade for Lafrenière (7.4 7yrs)
And trade back for danault (5.5 2yrs)
Habs trade: 17th overall , laine (cap dump)
To ducks for zegras
Habs trade 16th overall, engstrom , beck
To rangers for Lafrenière
Habs trade: Newhook , 2nd round
To kings for danault

Slavkosky Suzuki demidov
Lafrenière zegras Caufield
Dach Danault Gallagher
Anderson evans heinemen or Flo xehjaj
MTL still have around 9 million in cap space

18 May 2025 18:33:35
The only team saying yes to any of those is Montreal.

20 May 2025 13:18:30
Habs decline all and stay the course.

You are the MTL "Pinball" of trades.

23 May 2025 18:15:11
To me, Beck should somewhat be considered untouchable. The kid is gonna be a tremendous leader as well as great penalty killer and 3rd line center man for potentially 10 years. He will be the type of guy that you win playoff series with.
He might not be flashy, and won't score 30 or 40 goals, but he will do the little things that don't get noticed on a stats sheet.

17 May 2025 15:53:36
Habs trade 16th overall , with Kirby Dach and Adam Engstrom to Anaheim for Mason McTavish .

17 May 2025 16:02:30
Anaheim isn't trading McTavish for that poor of a return.

20 May 2025 13:20:15
ANA declines. I doubt they trade McTavish, but if they do, you can take out Dach and keep adding significantly to your offer.

17 May 2025 15:49:33
NY Islanders trade to Chicago Noah Dobson, Matt Maggio, 2026 1st round pick (their own ) in return they get Chicago 3rd overall 2025 draft

17 May 2025 16:03:51
Highly overvaluing 3OA.

17 May 2025 22:01:00
they would Schaefer 1st and Hagens 3rd. Maggio is not going to be an NHL regular, their 2026 first round pick should 15th-20th. With Schaefer. Hagens, Ritchie and Eiserman a good group of prospects.

20 May 2025 13:22:50
I agree with Memarcusjoe.

Trading Dobson, in my humble opinion, would be a foolish decision.

20 May 2025 22:11:10
he's soft defensively, won' be worth the salary that he will demand.

16 May 2025 01:23:49
Montreal trades with ny islanders
Montreal trades: 16th ,17th overall, Mailloux,Josh Roy, Owen beck , laine (if it takes more I’m listening if I’m Hugues)
To islanders for : horvat and Dobson (signs at same cap as Caufield)
This still leaves habs with cash to go sniff around rangers about panarin ( 1yr , 11.6) or Lafrenière (7yrs , 7.4)
For: Newhook , engstrom ++

Slavkosky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov horvat Lafreniere or panarin
Gallagher dach Anderson
Heinemen evans Flo xehjaj

Hutson Dobson
Guhle Carrier
Xehjaj Matheson

16 May 2025 03:43:18
The Islanders would do better trading each guy separately. The only really desirable pieces are the two picks and you're trying to dump Laine on them as well.

I can't see the Islanders having any interest at all in that.

16 May 2025 14:02:15
Full respect to Horvat and Dobson, but there’s other options that won’t require so many assets.

22 May 2025 13:49:21
Not sure what the Habs cap situation is looking like, but Ekbald would be a great add for them on the backend. These playoffs he's really come into his own. Reminds me of Pietro as of late. Gives them the option to deal less assets to go after a 2nd line center 💁‍♂️.