NHL rumours 2

01 Apr 2020 17:45:44
Tor:
Lowry

Winn:
Kerfoot
2021 4th

01 Apr 2020 20:06:45
No from Winnipeg. Kerfoot costs too much and doesn't fill any need for the Jets.

01 Apr 2020 21:44:18
Lowry who earns $2.9 mil and plays a physical checking game that all NHL teams want and need while Kerfoot at $3.5 mil plays a soft game. The Leafs are looking to dump their expensive Kadri trade mistake in order to fix their soft weak team at the expense of the Jets who don't need a player like Kerfoot.

02 Apr 2020 11:52:11
I don't see this working out unless for some reason Winnipeg is unhappy with Lowry. But as the Jets fans pointed out its not really a want or need for their team at this time.

01 Apr 2020 15:13:00
Game plan for Detroit Red Wings

Coaching: Fire Jeff Blashill and hire Gerard Gallant

NHL draft: Trade the rights to Ehn, Erne and Perlini at the draft for draft picks

Free agency: Lose Ericsson, Gagner, Howard, Franzen, Daley, Goloubef and Biega in free agency.

Go after Markstrom as a free agent goalie, 4 years $22 million deal.


Extensions: Sign Fabbri to a 2 year $5 million deal

Sign Bertuzzi to a 6 year $30 million deal

Sign Mantha to an 8 year $60 million deal

Sign Bowey to a 2 year $4 million deal

HC: Gerard Gallant

Bertuzzi - Larkin (C) - Mantha
Fabbri - Filppula - Zadina
Helm - Veleno - Hirose
Svechnikov - Nielsen (A) - Abdelkader
*Rasmussen*

Cholowski - Hronek
Nemeth - Bowey
DeKeyser (A) - Seider
*MacIssac*

Markstrom
Bernier

01 Apr 2020 16:06:06
Biega already got an extension.

01 Apr 2020 16:29:28
No kidding eh March 8th I must have been busy buying toilet paper and I didn't hear about it lol. Thanks!

01 Apr 2020 19:40:46
Hahahaha Markstrom ain’t sighing for 5.5 a year, dream on, and if it was that cheap it would be with Vancouver.

02 Apr 2020 04:43:54
I completely agree on the Fire Blashill. Would have liked Gallant but chances are since he wasn’t signed up yet, we may not get him.

Truthfully was hoping for Tampa to mess up again to so we could snag Jon Cooper, I can dream.

Personally would love to give Perlini another shot with the new coach, he can be good if utilized well. But if we trade him like the others you mentioned, I’m ok with it.

I’m good with all of the re-signings you mentioned, hopefully the players are too.

As for Goalie, I like Markstrom but not sure he would join us. I could see us making a play but getting a Goalie this off-season would be tough for a later financial move.

I say we see if we can swing a deal for Georgiev, he would get a chance to steal the crease and would be a good tandem with Bernier.

Overall, good post but could use a few tweaks.

02 Apr 2020 07:50:19
I'll happily give you Cooper, you won't have much fun with him, that I can tell you.

03 Apr 2020 07:42:01
Georgiev would be a smart add if cheap for the wings. 2nd + a prospect? If anymore i wouldn’t pay the price. Doubt their will be a big market for him.

31 Mar 2020 20:13:33
To Detroit
Saad

To Chicago
Ehn, Biega, 3rd

Taking this one from Liltuzzibert and pkane88. If it makes sense for Ottawa it makes even more sense for Detroit.

01 Apr 2020 00:04:48
it's okay, but saad is worth a bit more than that, at least a 2nd round pick in there and something better than biega. saad is in his prime years and has at least 5-6 good years left.

01 Apr 2020 12:41:09
If Detroit didn't already have a logjam of left wingers it would make sense for them. But as it is they already have: Bertuzzi, Fabbri, Erne, Perlini, Abdelkader, Helm and Timashov.

Both Ottawa and Detroit are working towards the same goal of a short term rebuild, Saad would be old enough to be a veteran leader presence on a younger team while still young enough to produce roughly 40-50 points in a top 6 role on either team.

I think both teams would have a hard time luring free agents to sign with them because it will take at least 3 more years before they're competitive, so they're better off finding trade partners who want to move salary.

02 Apr 2020 04:38:21
I agree with the premise and the trade is not horrid but I have to agree with LittleTuzziBert on the logjam.

We have quite a few LWs, really forwards for that matter and could use the space to try out the kids instead.

I am open to making deals where we can take back cap or expensive players like Saad for assets.

I would be more open to grabbing a Vet Dman who may be a cap casualty. Our D-Core is pretty young, adding another Vet would be nice.

30 Mar 2020 02:30:51
Come draft Day

Ott : l. brown, Davidson, 2021 2nd, 2020 3rd

For the 7th to 9th overall pick in 2020

Then

Ott : nyi 1st (currently 15th overall), 2020 2nd (2nd highest), 2020 2nd (3rd highest), chlapic

Njd : 10th overall pick in 2020

New Jersey has the talent as is plus a top 6 this year already and look too be adding a plethora of picks this year too. Sacrificing 5spots from 10th overall to add 2 more 2md rounders and a decent prospect would be right up their alley.


And Logan brown does still carry more than enough value that he's at least equal or greater value to the 15th overall pick sens have. Adding next year's Ottawa 2nd, and a 3rd this year should bring him to 10th overall value, and Davidson is a solid prospect in his own rights that should up his value even more to get this deal done.

Ottawa wins lottery with San Jose pick but moves down to 3rd with their own pick.

Lafreniere at 1
Byfield / Stutzle at 3
Raymond / Drysdale / Rossi at 7
Drysdale / Rossi / Holtz / Mercer / askarov at 10


The order the draft picks above is priority order depending who's available at the time of each pick. (Eg. Pick 7 if ramond and Drysdale are off the board then Rossi is the pick)

30 Mar 2020 13:08:19
I’m not sure about Brown value at this point. I think he has the potential to become a big top 6 center that plays with an edge, he has to bring it to the NHL tho. Hasn’t been able to do it yet on one of the worse teams in the nhl. His value might be close to Jesse Pulijujarvi imo.

30 Mar 2020 15:15:39
I don’t think Brown has hit Puijarvi level yet but I also don’t think he’s worth that high of a pick either even with the adds.

Also you mentioned the 7-9 range, the question is which teams they are, their needs and close to competitive level. If it’s a pure rebuilder with needs at C who is so far away, they may consider what you’re offering but would likely want more or more quality vs quantity.

If it’s a playoff bubble team, they might want a mix of picks/ NHL ready players (that fill a need)

If it’s a contender, they want impact roster players or they will keep their young Top 6 potential player who can be cost controlled.

That’s my analysis on that part.

The 2nd Trade you posted is more realistic as it’s a swap of firsts plus adds. Just once again depends on who’s on the board and NJ’s interest in that.

30 Mar 2020 20:33:54
Logan Brown ( basically a 2nd round pick ) + a 2nd and 3rd for a top 10 pick? No way. 2nd trade isn’t awful.

31 Mar 2020 12:00:16
Brown might be worth a bit more then Pul but if so it doesn’t really add up tho. Both same draft, Puli has debatably been more successful in the nhl. Idk I feel like Pul is a good player he might become a Panarin type player but he needs to realize that you can either make excuses or get result not both.

31 Mar 2020 22:41:27
I love when ridiculous trades lead to a rebuild via a single draft year. HAHA! So very plausible.

01 Apr 2020 08:37:28
Wow for once I agree with vb.

27 Mar 2020 16:20:53
Mtl:4rd2020

Win:Stanley

Mtl gets a good defensemen for the farm team. Ya Stanley might never play in the nhl but if he's plays a few AHL seasons it would be worth the pick.

27 Mar 2020 17:35:35
Very easy no from Winnipeg. Montreal doesn't really have anything available that would interest the Jets for Stanley.

27 Mar 2020 20:33:03
Coming from the most biased person on this site, your response didn’t have any value to be honest with you. Go back to bed.

27 Mar 2020 21:33:52
I don't think the Jets would want to dump Stanley just yet. They may as well keep him playing for the Moose as a 4th round pick is n't going to replace him on the Moose.

27 Mar 2020 22:59:01
I don't think anyone is more biased than you MM. Every post you make is biased and you have demonstrated many, many times you have no knowledge of player values.

28 Mar 2020 18:13:29
All you can ask is why? Lol.

28 Mar 2020 18:46:55
Don’t think there is anything the Canadians could offer that’d entice to move an b- prospect? Suzuki, Kotekneimi, Petry and the next 3 1sts for Stanley? Let me guess Canadians would have to pay more to dump Petry. You’re a clown.

28 Mar 2020 19:42:03
Reading comprehension is very important Vbbb and a clown like you obviously doesn't have any. You missed a key word "available" of course, but it doesn't suit your narrative, so I guess it's not surprising.

28 Mar 2020 21:50:43
Everyone is a available for the right price.

29 Mar 2020 09:25:48
Stanley could be had for a middling pick, don’t kid yourself biased Winnipeg’s fans. You guys are becoming worst then Leafs fans!

29 Mar 2020 16:37:23
That statement definitely emphasizes your lack of hockey knowledge Marc.

29 Mar 2020 18:30:28
I know I'm wasting my time but MagicMark why are you always so negative and angry? I don't recall you posting anything that isn't an insult. Try and explain your argument with facts and serious opinion not childish rants then people would take you seriously. .

30 Mar 2020 15:19:19
Obviously picks don’t seem to interest the Jets for Stanley.
Although a 4th is very low, I was thinking min would be a 3rd + in terms of pick value.

What kinds of pieces would the Jets be looking for in return? An equivalent forward? Package Stanley with picks for a roster Player?

Not saying he’s going to move or not, just speculating on what kinds of pieces Jets would like back if they moved him.

30 Mar 2020 19:01:13
Jets fan won't accept anything less than McDavid for Stanley.

30 Mar 2020 19:40:48
Stanley was a 1st round pick in 2016 you honestly believe he's regressed to being worth only a 4th round pick after 4 years in the AHL?

He's worth more than a 4th TO THE JETS because they can utilize him on the farm team and get more value from him there than they would get for the 4th round selection.

23 Mar 2020 14:03:11
Tor:
Hague
Marchessault
2020 1st

LV:
Marner

Then,

Tor:
Manson

Ana:
Johnsson
2020 1st (Vegas)
Bracco
Liljegren

23 Mar 2020 14:54:22
I don't think Vegas would want to get mixed up with Marner's contract. They'd be moving from a slightly unbalanced team to an extremely unbalanced team, similar to the Leafs.

There's nothing in the other offer that would entice the Ducks to even take a look at that offer.

23 Mar 2020 17:16:28
Leafs won’t trade Marner they’d just buyout Tavares or Mathews before moving the best player in the history of their Franchise and Manson might’ve been a bottom 5 worst Dman in the NHL last season why is he so overrated yes he’s physical but he was awful last year his value is probably a 2nd.

23 Mar 2020 17:51:56
Nothing in that offer the Ducks would want for Manson? Your way off in Mansons value if I had to guess.

23 Mar 2020 18:39:19
From what I've heard the Ducks are looking for top 6 forward help. So, the first would be nice, but I don't think they would be interested in a 4th line forward and an okay defensive prospect. I think they'd rather go after someone who at least has top 6 potential. So, not much there really interesting for them.

Trades usually aren't just piling up stuff until you have enough value like NHL 20. You usually have to address team needs.

23 Mar 2020 20:54:25
I’m not sure what there needs are so it might not be the perfect pieces for them but the value is enough they probably couldn’t say no to the offer.

24 Mar 2020 01:47:04
2 first round pick, a young middle 6 forward on a great contract ( basically another 1st ) and a decent prospect for a 4th defenceman coming off two awful season.

How about Vesalianen, Lowry, Stanley and 1st for Manson?

24 Mar 2020 15:31:10
You can tell memarcusjoe doesn't watch much hockey or he would know Manson is crap and not worth anywhere near those players. His assessment on the Leafs players is way off. Obviously a comment made from total ignorance and lack of respect for another teams players.

25 Mar 2020 16:26:13
memarcusjoe this has gone on long enough. You are undervaluing leafs players to the point where you think they are all worth nothing. You obviously have not looked at any stats this years and are going off of stats from 2 years ago.

Manson is an okay defenceman but he has no offensive output and his contract says top 4 guy. He is a bottom pairing guy at best. Not even worth half of that package.

25 Mar 2020 17:13:34
themostleaf, where did I de-value a Leaf player? All I said was that the Ducks are looking to add top 6 help, no top 6 help was offered by the Leafs in this proposal. Hence my saying there is nothing interesting for the Ducks.

It has nothing to do with what Manson is worth. Teams don't move players just because they are getting equal value. They trade players for guys that address team needs or wants.

It doesn't make the Leaf players bad just because they don't address the Ducks needs. It just makes them unneeded by the Ducks and there's nothing wrong with that. Sometimes there just isn't a fit.

25 Mar 2020 19:09:20
I’ll teach you a life lesson Memarcus let’s say Manson is a shinny dime the ducks really like and they’re trying to save up for a dollar. Andreas Johnsson is a dime obviously Anaheim likes their own dime so they keep there's ( Manson ) but then the leafs say how about we add 2 quarters ( 1st and Liligren ) and well add a nickel on top of that ( Bracco ) now if someone asks would you rather have 65 cents or 10 cents. No matter how shinny the Dime is you take the 65 cents. Also if you knew anything about the ducks their biggest need is RHD prospects for their rebuild which Lilijgren is.

25 Mar 2020 19:55:51
I would agree except that you value the Leaf players way too high. If Manson is a dime. Then a 25 year old, run of the mill 4th liner (Johnsson) is maybe a nickle, probably less. The first would be a dime, a nothing special defense prospect (Liljegren) is a dime. A 23 year old, career AHL'er, that every team has 3 or 4 of is pretty much worthless.

If their biggest need is RHD, why on earth would they trade one? So, again nothing there really makes it worth their while.

There's a life lesson for you.

28 Mar 2020 02:05:58
Johnsson is not a 4th liner he’s on the leafs 1st line and would make any teams 3rd.

28 Mar 2020 18:16:11
Manson doesn't get you top 6 help bud.

30 Mar 2020 04:53:08
lmfao, can i just point something out

mansons a dime: 10 cents

johnssons less than a nicel: 4 cents
the first is a dime: 10 cents
liljegrens a dime: 10 cents
braccos worthless: 0 cents

so trade 24 cents for 10 cents @memarcus?

your analogy just seems, off, lmao.

30 Mar 2020 18:05:43
This trade WILL NEVER HAPPEN because Marner WILL NOT be traded. Dubas didn't go through the whole summer of 2019 trying to resign him just to flip him for a pick to be used to acquire a 28 year old RHD, even if they're recovering some assets with Marchessault and Hague. If the first scenario was to provide cap space, I'd suggest Nylander is the more likely RW to be moved, and Kapanen much more likely to be moved before either WN or MM.

IMO Johnson is the detractor here, he puts up points on Auston's line but due to injuries we've yet to see enough of him on the ice to suggest he would develop into a top 6. Kapanen MIGHT be of interest to Anaheim now that they've traded Kase, but then again Anaheim could look to other teams for a better offer in a 1 for 1 trade for Manson instead of waiting for Liljegren and Bracco to further develop.


When you factor in that the salary cap is increasing next season and Toronto will have some flexibility once Horton and Clarkson's contracts are off the books, I'm 200% sure these trades would never happen.

Thanks for the laugh about "if I have 50 cents you're telling me you wouldn't trade me a dime for it? "

21 Mar 2020 15:48:00
To Blues
Klefbom

To Edm
Kostin
Alexandria

Blues are strong right side but need a solid lefty. I heard Edmonton is in a cap crunch so might want to move out salary. They can replace Klef with players from within. This is the best trade ever suggested. Ever. Take that redwing1.

21 Mar 2020 19:47:39
They’re in a cap crunch so they trade away their top Dman who logs up around the most minutes per game in the NHL while making a meagre $4.16mil/ yr? That doesn’t make a whole lotta sense now does it?

21 Mar 2020 22:13:36
It does when they got cheaper replacements in house for him. He's a good defenseman but he ain't great. He's worth a couple good prospects though.

24 Mar 2020 17:51:23
No basis in reality at all.

24 Mar 2020 19:52:40
Kinda like your responses.

25 Mar 2020 14:08:50
Wow, got a new troll I see.

25 Mar 2020 23:05:25
This site is full of them.

31 Mar 2020 21:22:19
Ahah, the trolls acknowledges he’s got completion lmao.

18 Mar 2020 22:42:06
I'm curious to know... If this Crisis lasts for a long time, would the NHL cancel this season, and just wait for the next?? Or.. totally change up the calendar for a year?? And if so play playoffs in Summer , or even Fall if need be?? And then possibly a 40 to 50 game regulars season for the 20/21 season??
Also.. if this season is scrapped?? Would end of season individual awards be given??

Anyway. , hope all of you and your families stay safe and healthy during this weird time..

18 Mar 2020 23:47:16
I think scrapping this season will be the very last resort. I think they'll find someway to get the playoffs in even if they are sharply shortened.

19 Mar 2020 08:57:28
Next season will be shortened before this one is cancelled imo.

19 Mar 2020 13:45:17
Players want to shorten both seasons. Start next year in November. It's all over the news.

19 Mar 2020 14:51:22
Apparently Bill Daley said shortening next season isn’t going to happen. I think have 5 game series until the last round is a good idea. I know it’ll barely help but it’s a start. These guys will definitely need a few regular season games to get back into as well. Might just have to scrap the season 😬.

19 Mar 2020 15:01:57
I think they are going to go with a 1 game format for the playoffs. So instead of 4 games win if you win that 1 game your going to the next round. They probably going to go with how the standings are right now so that sucks for the teams that were clost enough to maybe catch up but it is what it is.

19 Mar 2020 15:57:25
I can't see a 1 game format for this. 5 games seems realistic. And I agree with Ebs . They are going to need a few games to get ready. Also read about some 24 team format. Now for those 8 who would be lucky to get in, that I could possibly see a 1 and done. or mini 3 game series. who knows. Other issues are going to be getting the venues. the air travel, the lodging. this stuff takes a lot of time to plan. so it will be interesting

However, until all the other issues in the world are solved, I guess we just won't know. unfortunately this could last for a long time.

20 Mar 2020 16:53:34
If the league isn't back practicing as teams buy July 1st I think it will be " No Stanley Cup awarded due to Coronavirus"

21 Mar 2020 09:10:19
Let’s just wait and see and everyone concern themselves with staying healthy and safe instead.

21 Mar 2020 15:30:47
I agree Chirp, it's just nice however to take our minds off this crisis, even for a few minutes .

But ya, in the big picture. hockey really doesn't matter at the moment.