NHL rumours 2

11 Jan 2025 22:45:48
Habs trades: Evans, Engstrom and the later of there 1sts

Jersey trades: Nemac

12 Jan 2025 02:19:02
Why would NJ do that?

12 Jan 2025 06:11:59
They are pretty solid on the right side of there D, are apparently calling about Evans and are much thinner on the left side.

12 Jan 2025 14:38:23
Id rather keep Evans re signed at 5× 3.5, and Engstrom and the 1st.

12 Jan 2025 20:42:02
Where are Beck, Hage and Kapanan gonna play. I love Evans but this crazy 25 game stretch he is on doesn't change who he is. 5yrs! I just don't see it. Sell high on him now and see what he is worth on the open market in the off season. If he gets more then 3 yes goodbye Jake, thx for some great yrs. Habs have the people to fill his shoes.

12 Jan 2025 21:53:28
. 5 is a bit to much. I didnt really consider the kids you mentioned, all 3 should be more than capable of filling his shoes sooner than later, with Beck or Kappanen filling Dvoraks immediately. If he would sign for 3, that would be great.

13 Jan 2025 12:58:25
The Habs aren't weak at LD, either on the big team or in prospects.

Hutson, Guhle & Xhekaj is a good NHL mix on LD, and they're all between the age of 20-23.

Engstrom has adjusted to the North American game, and Trudeau has been good for Laval as well.

With all the prospects and picks there will come a time to package some off. I don't see NJ trading Nemec, and MTL shouldn't want to part with Engstrom or the 1st. If Evans re-signs at a reasonable cap hit, great. If not, he's a valuable trade asset.

13 Jan 2025 19:38:07
Nemec only plays on the right side.

10 Jan 2025 15:45:40
Toronto Trades
Rielly
Minton (AHL)

Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
Soucy*

*Canucks retain 1,325.000 of Soucy's remaining contract.


Would be a bold move by both Teams and The Leafs would still have to deal with Cap Space when everyone is healthy, if Toronto has to add a 2nd Rounder in this proposal or another prospect I am ok with that.


Thoughts ?

11 Jan 2025 01:07:31
Vancouver politely declines.

11 Jan 2025 22:27:08
Alvin said want an etablish center in return.

13 Jan 2025 13:07:20
- wow. another Pinball trade that heavily favours the leafs? I just never saw that coming.

- stop upvoting yourself Pinball. you're embarrassing yourself! Your posts always have more upvotes AND downvotes than any others, and yet you never never have anyone leaving comments supporting your ridiculously one-sided trades. Give it a rest.

- Why would VCR do this? They get the more expensive D. but have to retain on the cheaper one?

- Minten's prospect value has taken a beating. This isn't close in trade value at all. IF VCR trades Miller it will be for a package. not scraps like you've offered.

15 Jan 2025 03:41:45
Lol. No.

09 Jan 2025 19:14:28
With Toronto looking for more stable and experienced d-man. Let's look at this potential trade.
Mtl: Cowan
Tor: Savard.
Toronto could ask for a 3rd rounder.

09 Jan 2025 21:56:34
no way from leafs.

10 Jan 2025 00:21:07
Did you watch the WJHC? Cowan didn’t show well at all.

Habs decline.

10 Jan 2025 15:09:53
Savard is dogrubbish and old. I hated Cowan and he should not have been on that roster, but he is still young and has potential.

Why give a promising prospect for pretty well nothing?

10 Jan 2025 16:57:54
Chicken foot if an nhl player has a down year does that mean they have no trade value. They still have lots of it if they were a top player. This is a bit different because he is a prospect but he was having an in and season before he had a bad wjhc.

10 Jan 2025 17:10:39
The thinking on this trade is that Savard solidifies better defence now. Toronto can't wait for promising prospects to get to the finals.

11 Jan 2025 04:29:35
David Pasternak was sent down from NHL after a full season on the Bruins and played awful for Czech Republic. Basing a players value on 5 games when he led that team in points is just ridiculous. I’m also assuming the thing you’re referring to is his shootout attempt?

11 Jan 2025 12:46:44
Don't get me wrong he had an awful showing at the WJC. But he still holds value he just needs to bring it back up with strong play in the back half of the season and into the OHL playoffs.

11 Jan 2025 14:30:41
I don't believe a bad tournament defines a carreer. However, I don't think Easton Cowan is a super prospect he's made out to be. I think if he wants to be a full-time NHLer, he will need to change his game to a 4th line checking role. I think he's gonna be like a Charles Hudon. All of us Habs fans thought he was gonna be a top 6 player. Never came close.

11 Jan 2025 19:56:13
@SosaHabs I think you’re wrong. I think he can be a Jordan Eberle/ TJ Oshie type. I’d go as far as saying in a redraft he’d go higher. This guy just led team Canada in points and people are acting like he was the worst player. Where was Catton? Sam Dickinson turned over the puck more than any dman I’ve ever seen. All 4 QMJHL players shouldn’t even have been on the team. Nadeau with his AHL experience did nothing besides score the tieing goal. Luchenko and Ritchie did nothing either.

11 Jan 2025 21:34:29
Well VB, for the kids sake, hopefully I'm wrong.

12 Jan 2025 02:41:35
I’m just curious what made him stand out being worse then all the players I just mentioned with the exception of Dickinson.

12 Jan 2025 05:26:32
Sosa didn’t say worse than any of those guys. He said he’s not a high end prospect. I agree, I think the tournament proved it.

12 Jan 2025 14:43:14
Honestly VB, I didn't think many of the players were that good or looked like high end prospects other than ( The kid who got hurt, sorry can't remember his name, and McKenna.

Cowan probably stands out the most, because he gets alot of hype because he's a Leafs prospect. If he was say Utahs or Carolinas prospect, people wouldn't have really thought much of it. Wouldn't have been a big deal.

12 Jan 2025 19:05:37
A lot of those guys will also be back next year and they’ll be the ones in positions to be the best. And if they finish the tournament with 3 points Canada probably won’t medal again.

13 Jan 2025 00:36:12
I get what you mean but it’s a 5 game tournament. Pick a year and you’ll find a guy on any Canada roster that had a brutal tournament maybe 0 points and goes on to be a star in the NHL. A guy I’m personally really high on and was so excited to watch this tournament was Andrew Cristall. This guy has absolute super star Paniran level potential and he got cut. Buddy is leading WHL in points with 10 games less played then the player in 2nd place and was on a garbage rebuilding team before he was traded. The whole tournament was a joke on Canadas part their coach should be banned from ever stepping foot on a bench and I wouldn’t judge anyone based on it. Hell if Sam Dickinson wins the Calder next season running the sharks PP I wouldn’t be surprised.

13 Jan 2025 06:16:09
Really disappointing tournament for sure. Coach and GM were a lot to blame and maybe Hockey Canada culture?
I agree 5 game tournament doesn’t need to be taken too serious. He’s obviously a really good player, just hard to have him up there with the best when he wasn’t.
Canada should have a bunch of guys returning so hopefully they get us a medal!

13 Jan 2025 16:07:19
Cowan is getting torched because his misplays were costly. I think he rebounds in the back half of the season. Our WJC team was poorly coached and selected. We left some guys who could have made a difference, but can't do well with a coach who hold practices. The 67's arent in great shape with him at the helm either.

09 Jan 2025 19:07:02
There is talk that the Devils are interested in Evans.
NJ: Cotter
Mtl:Evans
Both teams would benefit with this trade. NJ will get an experienced forechecker and faceoff player. Mtl gets a more physical player upfront for the bottom six.

10 Jan 2025 00:22:18
Habs and Evans are working on a new deal.

10 Jan 2025 14:38:09
I hope so Chickenfoot . I'm hoping for 5 at 3.5M. What do you think he will get?

13 Jan 2025 13:17:09
SOSA: I think you're bang-on with 5 x 3.5M. It absolutely has to be less than 4M. On the upper end I could see them going as long as 8 years at 3.5M, which would make him 36 at the end of the deal. (Defensive centers tend to age well, so I could see them going that long if they had to. )

09 Jan 2025 00:07:59
Vancouver decides to trade both.

1st trade

Detroit sends Dylan Larkin $8,700,000 (whom requested a trade earlier this year)
and use their Projected Cap Space
$3,437,594 to aquire:

Elias Petterson $11,600,000


2nd trade

NYR sends
(c) Filip Chytil (4.4)
(rw) Alexis Lafreniere (2.325)
(D) Braden Schneider (2.2)

To Vancouver for:
(c) J.T. Miller - 8m
(rw) Kiefer Sherwood 1.5M

09 Jan 2025 12:47:46
the rumour about larkin requesting a trade was false! wings say no to this trade!

09 Jan 2025 14:27:54
Larkin did NOT request a trade earlier. And I would not accept Petterson for Larkin 1 for 1. Patterson has more talent, but Larkin's compete level has never been questioned, and he is a leader, unlike Petterson.

09 Jan 2025 15:43:29
- IF the Larkin rumour was true, VCR would do both trades.

- Both DET & NYR are weaker after these trades.

- 2 troubled teams like NYR & VCR should be able to come together on a trade where they can exchange problems to see if a change of scenery could help either or both.

10 Jan 2025 15:12:31
Skill-wise petey > Wings, BUT value to organization wise, Larkin should be untradeable. Trading a captain is not a good look and he is the foundation for the Wings.

The NYR is interesting but didn’t they have JT already? I also think Laf has earned his spot so it’s unlikely they trade him.

08 Jan 2025 08:14:51
EDM - Kemp, 2026 1st or 2nd

BOS - Carlo.

08 Jan 2025 10:41:13
Bit of a repost but I think at the deadline Oil might be able to fit this in without trading cap back.

Carlo has fallen to the bruins 4/ 5 D. They have no prospects and are on the decline. He’d be a very movable piece for them to start a retool.

08 Jan 2025 13:13:42
I can't see that being overly interesting for them. That's less than he gets as a rental.

08 Jan 2025 16:44:02
I can see the fit, but EDM would have to move some money out to fit Carlo under the cap.

08 Jan 2025 18:44:43
I disagree, I can’t see Carlo getting much more than a 1st.


I think I read they’ll have a lot of cap space at the deadline not exactly sure.

13 Jan 2025 19:12:36
Teams on a 7 game win streak dont trade their captain. Especially for a player rumored to have beef with another prominent player on their team.

Only one that wins in this trade is Petterson who finally gets to escape the media circus in Vancouver.

07 Jan 2025 19:35:59
Mtl Savard (50%), Evans, CBJ 2nd

Tor Reaves, Hakanpaa, Cowan, low pick

07 Jan 2025 19:57:00
No thanks from Montreal.

07 Jan 2025 23:22:19
the return is the only way to make the money work for the leafs because of the core. Evans value is rising but I don’t think as much as people think. Easton Cowan is a sick prospect and rare a low second rounder will be better than him. 3rd or 4th for the retention so more mid pick

08 Jan 2025 01:55:49
MTL hangs up. Reaves is completely irrelevant, Hak is too and is injured, and Cowan was poor in the WJHC.

It’s extra hilarious that you have MTL include the 2nd.

Wow…this will be on the top ten homer trade list of 2025, and there’s almost a full year to go.

WELL DONE👍.

08 Jan 2025 13:02:10
If the Habs are just giving away their players we might as well throw in a few more pieces like Kampf and Robertson and bring in Hutson and Laine as well.

Reaves has zero value at this point besides maybe being a glue guy or a good dressing room guy. Hak's health is huge red flag. Cowan needs to bring his stock back up after a horrible showing at the WJC.

08 Jan 2025 18:28:27
Obliviously Reavo will never see ice time, he’ll take Pezz spot next year. Hak is done at the end of the year. Cowans stock will rise again. Getting a top prospect for a D who’s worth a 3rd or 4th, a centre who’s worth a 2nd or 3rd and high second doesn’t seem that bad. Would you interchange Knies for Cowan?

09 Jan 2025 15:48:54
JRoy. your logic is significantly and "Obliviously" flawed.

Cowan isn't a top prospect, Reaves is irrellevant, and Hak is a cap dump without compensation.

Looks like Evans will re-sign in MTL now, and you may be the only one who is surprised that Savard will return more than a 3rd or a 4th at the deadline. RD are in short supply, especially ones with Cup-winning experience who are excellent defensively.

07 Jan 2025 12:56:42
Red Wings trade Rasmussen to Canucks for Hoglander. Wings get a 24 goal scorer to help offensively, Canucks get a reliable 2 way forward who adds a bit of size to the forward group.

09 Jan 2025 14:35:42
Detroit says no thank you. They have a small forward group, and trading the only one they have with size for a 5'9" 185lb one probably won't fly.

06 Jan 2025 00:12:51
Montreal makes blockbuster trade with Canucks
Mtl sends :
2025 unprotected 1st round, 2nd round, evans, Josh Anderson ( a Tocchet type of guy) Jayden struble
To Vancouver for :
Elias Peterson
Mtl lineup 2025
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Dach Peterson laine
Heinemen Newhook armia
Roy Dvorak Gallagher
2026
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Demidov Peterson laine
Heinemen dach Newhook
Roy beck Gallagher

06 Jan 2025 05:26:10
That's way to much for Petterson.

06 Jan 2025 13:57:47
Depends on what version of Pettersson you get. If you get the guy who hit 100 points and is defensively responsible then absolutely, great trade for the Habs as it gives them a 1-2 punch of him and Suzuki. As it stands now though there's a lot of question marks with how he's played and his overall attitude. Same could be said about Laine though and it worked out very well for the Habs.

06 Jan 2025 19:21:14
I wouldn't want to give up Evans. I think he's a late bloomer that will be a valuable member of the Habs for quite a few years ( if he signs) . For some reason, I just don't feel like you win with Petterson. He's a great talent, but when the tough play starts ( playoffs) . he isn't much of a factor. For what it would cost to get him, id prefer to just stay the course.

07 Jan 2025 11:11:56
Who are these players?

07 Jan 2025 12:09:30
Van will most likely want a roster player with upside. Josh Anderson is 30 yr. If this package was for JT Miller. it might be enough.

07 Jan 2025 12:12:16
I forgot to mention. Van would need a center as well. so I guess it depend what they could get in return for a 1st round pick.

07 Jan 2025 16:38:59
Maybe something with Matheson as the bigger peice going to the West Coast . Obviously Habs would have to add from there. I dunno
. Maybe Matheson, Mesar, a 1st? Not sure of that gets it done. Probably not.

07 Jan 2025 23:23:40
I think Dach is going the other way if a trade for Petey

08 Jan 2025 02:09:14
- Pettersson is too sensitive to become the kind of player his talent can imply. If I’m trying to build a contender, I’m not considering Petey.

- if I did want Pettersson, I wouldn’t be trading all this for him.

05 Jan 2025 05:50:36
Just a thought

To hurricanes

JT Miller

To canucks

M. Necas


I remember Necas want out of Carolina at one point to get a more significant roll else where...

Either way I think it's Miller that has to go, he's not getting any younger.

05 Jan 2025 15:24:16
carolina say no, necas wanted opportunity, they gave it to him and look whats hes done with it. carolina would more likely look at petterson if anything.

05 Jan 2025 19:04:35
With the age difference, Canucks need to add something. But I also don't see the Canes wanting to trade Necas. He's cooled off some, but he still had 6 to 7 really productive season in front of him, where Miller has peaked and could possibly start regressing.

04 Jan 2025 21:13:18
Moving some big pieces off the flames.

To TOR:
Kadri (2mill retained each year)
Klapka

To CGY:
Danford +
2026 1st OR 2025 2nd +2026 3rd
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To NYR:
Rasmus Andersson
2025 NJ 1st or 2025 FLA 1st(whichever is later)

To CGY:
Braiden Schneider + 2025 NYR 1st
2

05 Jan 2025 06:06:40
The first trade looks alright. Might be tough to trade Kadri knowing that he's got one foot out the door.

Last trade I doubt NYR would trade schneider. I think NYR is pretty high on him. But never know what Drury will do!