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09 Jan 2020 12:25:35
Midway point Awards. who ya got?

Hart McDavid ( MacKinnon closing gap)
Norris Carlson ( Hedman may take over)
Vezina Binnington? ( Not sure on this, could be a few guys, Andersson is right there.)
Selke Barkov (Of course Bergeron or O'Reilly could be in..anyone else?
Calder. Makar. ( not going to count out Suzuki)
Adams. Keefe. (should always be Trotz IMO)
Masterton. Fabbri. Really I have no clue. But great to see him back playing well.
Byng. 🤷‍♂️?

McDavid will finish with 130 points.

Matthews👎🤬 wins Rocket 57 goals.

Biggest surprise so far? Jarry? Not sure on this either.
Biggest disappointment. I'm a Habs fan, I'll leave it at that.

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09 Jan 2020 14:21:45
I think Hart should be Mcdavid for sure.
The Hart is “player judged most valuable to his team” and the Oilers would be a lot more screwed without Mcdavid than the Aves would be without McKinnon.
The Ted Lindsay trophy should be talked about and Held in higher regard than the Hart because it’s the legit mvp trophy given to “the most outstanding player in the regular season as judged by the members of the NHLPA”. Which should also be Mcdavid. Lol. There’s a big difference in the two trophy’s tho.

09 Jan 2020 14:31:14
Hart and Ted: McDavid
Vezina: Not sure, few battling.
Norris: Carlson running away with it still? Maybe?
Selke: I like the Barkov pick. Man him and Huberdeau are two of the most underrated, best contracts in the league.
Calder: Makar for sure for me. He might be my third player in the league behind McD and Drai.
Adams: Maybe Keefe! He’s impressed me a lot. I really like him actually.


Surprise: Ya with the Play of Jarry and Desmith maybe being a legit backup I’ve been ready it might open up the possibility of trading Murray! Could be big.
King Henrik should ask for a trade with Sorokin (spelling) coming in. And will Holtby re-sign in Wash with Samsonov maybe ready to take over? Three big name goalies might hit the market.

Biggest Disappointment: Nashville? They still have 2/ 3 games in hand of the wild card teams they are chasing while 6/ 7 points behind. They are a good enough team and can go on a run with still 40 games left, lots. Get in the playoffs and anything can happen.
Habs yes, feel bad for Price.
San Jose is another big surprise. I had them and Vegas as kicks in the pacific.

09 Jan 2020 15:30:20
Yupp. I agree with ya on the Lindsay as well. although for me MacKinnon is right there.
I think Mack has now taken over as the best player from Cole Harbor Nova Scotia. although Crosby hasn't been able to compete for that this season. Hopefully Crosby comes back strong and proves me wrong.

09 Jan 2020 15:50:26
Holy crap. I didn't realize Josi is only 9 points behind Carlson. I know points aren't the most important part of a Dmans game, however the voters seem to like em. he's another underrated guy. hopefully he doesn't get the Shea Weber treatment come voting time. playing in Nashville.

09 Jan 2020 16:41:24
Woah interesting. I think he’s now maybe tied for 2nd with Crosby behind MCDavid.
But I still think the Aves are a it stronger without McKinnon than the Oilers are without McDavid at the moment. Both teams looking to improve tho, Aves want a good winger and Oilers want a good third line C. McKinnon is def my third favorite forward tho. I ran into him at the Halifax airport when I was there this summer, and just missed him and Crosby by two days when I golfed Cabot links/ cliffs. Wish I had something for him to autograph but didn’t. He deserves the praise he is starting to get tho! Only going to get bigger and higher praise too.

09 Jan 2020 19:14:22
Am I the only one who thinks Quinn Hughes wins the Hart. He’s doing more with less talent around him.

09 Jan 2020 19:38:01
What VB? . go back to sleep buddy.

09 Jan 2020 23:15:59
Hahahahaha. What? Vancouver is a pretty good team and he isn’t even the most valuable on that team.
You home, you’re drunk.

10 Jan 2020 03:59:19
I think right now I'd give mavkinnon the hart both his line mates have been injured and he's still nipping at mcdavid heels in scoring.

10 Jan 2020 07:42:05
I’ll play.

Hart - McDavid
Norris - Carlson
Vezina - This is up for grabs at this point. My top 3 would be Andersen, Binnington and Kuemper (If he returns soon, otherwise Hellebuyck enters the convo)
Selke - Barkov (Draisaitl had this til mid-Dec)
Calder - Q. Hughes (Makar had this til injury, could still come back and win it)
Richard - Pastrnak
Adams - Sullivan? Pens have the most man-games lost this season and yet they sit 5th overall and continue to win.
Byng - I dunno . . . Draisaitl? Bergeron? I don’t know this one.

10 Jan 2020 16:17:50
Whoops I meant to say Quinn Hughes wins the Calder not the Hart.

10 Jan 2020 17:56:03
Lol. ok VB. . That's better buddy. yes, he could deffinetley get that.

10 Jan 2020 18:05:02
Habby the Hart is deemed most valuable to his team, not to his line mates. The Aves as a whole would be a lot better off without McKinnon than the Oilers would be with McDavid.
I’m kinda surprised by a few of you, You’re kinda saying the Oilers gave a good team, going by the definition of the Hart trophy. Lol. I’m impressed, thanks.

Yes VB, there will be a lot of people who would Pick Quinn for the Calder. You bet. Too bad for rookie scoring leader Olofsson. He was going to get a few votes.
In my opinion I think Makar gets it and in a fab of both him and Quinn but I just love Makar.

10 Jan 2020 22:20:36
OK yup we can swing that around and say if Mack had draisitil with him all this year and McDavid didn't how many more points would Mack have then McDavid now 15? 25? Possibly, then it wouldn't even be a discussion. Also as it stands if Colorado makes the playoffs and Edmonton doesn't it shouldn't even be a discussion then either.

11 Jan 2020 07:10:43
Andersen right there? Keefe? You sound like a TOR fan lol

McDavid is a fine pick, so is Carlson for now.

Bishop for Vezina and at the risk of sounding like a homer, I'd at least want to throw Cirelli in the Selke conversation. He deserves it.

Makar or Hughes for Calder, Jarry and others also still in contention.

Jack Adams I think there's a fair point for PITs coach, they're very good and have/ had a ton of injuries.

10 Jan 2020 22:24:33
Mack has more then double the points of anyone else on his team that doesn't happen often. Sounds like the definition of MVP to me.

11 Jan 2020 20:55:49
Haha Drais. far from fans of those guys.
I can see Cirelli getting a few votes.

09 Jan 2020 01:55:21
MTL: Brook

Edm: Pulijujarvi

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09 Jan 2020 15:45:55
I'd be interested in that. however, I think Holland will want more .
The deal I wish they woulda made, was Puluwhatever to Blues for Fabbri.
I like Brook, but if there is one D prospect I'd be willing to part with, it would probably be him.

Anywone know how Juulsen is doing?

10 Jan 2020 04:00:31
Jullsen is still having issues man. I'd be surprised if he's ever the same again. Too bad too cause he looked like he was going to be a stud defensively.

10 Jan 2020 14:49:06
Ya that's go bad. I agree Habby, the thought of having Romanov, Mete, Fluery, Brook, Juulsen and Primeau behind the forwards was something I was excited to see in the future.
I really hope the kid can get his health back, I'd hate to see a kids dream done after that unfortunate incident. after he had a small taste of NHL action.

08 Jan 2020 01:03:13
Habby.. or anyone.. who the heck is this Vejdemo character??

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08 Jan 2020 14:05:43
AHL player, won't be able to stay with the Habs. Drafted a few years back, can't remember what year but was playing in Sweden. He will go back down soon, we are just riddled with injuries right now.

08 Jan 2020 14:24:50
Thanks Turkey.
Ya, I was wondering. in a perfect world, if Byron, Drouin, Armia and Gallagher all returned . well who's out. Weiss, Poehling, Vejdemo. Could, and should it be KK.? Maybe some AHL time is needed?
I think after last nights loss to the Wings, it's pretty clear this team is done. the playoffs once again aren't going to be a thing. Time to start selling off some guys? T.

08 Jan 2020 14:33:24
He is also to the age where he soon needs to make the jump for good. I will say this he's a pretty solid two way player. Will never be a mainstay on a nhl scoring line mainly due to his skating. But he has been the best all around player in Laval this year. Could be a 4th line center option down the line. I think he is a step up from de la rose.

08 Jan 2020 00:09:33
kadri just dummied a guy on a rangers. i do miss him. not his playoff suspensions.

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08 Jan 2020 01:03:56
Hes the kinda guy all teams would love to have. was my favorite Leaf.

08 Jan 2020 02:25:31
Classic Kadri style too, just jump the guy giving him zero time to square up. 👌.
He really was the only non softie on TO tho.
Tampa is rolling now back to regular season form 9-2 wow. Bos always so good and tough. Can Toronto beat either those two teams in a best of 7 playoff battle? Will Freddy be ran into the ground by then? He called out his players last night or this morning.

08 Jan 2020 14:26:49
I think Leafs can get past Boston the way Keefe is coaching them. however, Tampa, seems like they have been pacing themselves. and I think they are the team to beat for everyone.

08 Jan 2020 15:50:09
wow really Sosa? Toronto would have to dig pretty deep to win a hard fought playoff war bs Bos I think. Would be a huge victory if they did.
And even tho I’m viewed as a Leaf hater I actually really really like Keefe! That’s strange for me to say 😜. Getting rid of Babs was the best thing they’ve done for years.
Keefe had some great things to say about the Oilers after that last win so I have big respect for him, gave all the credit and praise in the world to them.

08 Jan 2020 18:50:24
I'm a straight up Leafs hater! . lol well, Mathews hater . . ya, I think they would win a shoot out style run and gun. I think . not 100% sure. I believe that in a 7 game series. they can now, finally get Chara tired. 7, 8 years ago. not a chance.

Hard for me to say. really hard. but I'd actually be rooting for Boston over Toronto. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️.

09 Jan 2020 04:48:14
I think the opposite, that the leafs will never Beat the Bruins. but if they meet Tampa it would be interesting, they both play the same style high offense and speed. That series could go either way imo.

07 Jan 2020 01:51:30
“Mo Rielly is a good friend of mine and, uh, ya I don’t think he liked that too much”
-Connor.

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07 Jan 2020 19:03:12
“It’s always fun to play here, ahh and it’s always fun to leave here as well”
-Connor
Lol.

07 Jan 2020 22:28:02
Could you imagine if the oilers had more than 2 good players? What a team they could be.

07 Jan 2020 23:48:58
Could you imagine!
Too bad we signed so many 4th liners and had them playing above their head. Lol.
But the lineup now the last four games is the best it’s been all season, no one slotted in above their capabilities. Hope it stays and Holland upgrades the 3C.

07 Jan 2020 22:59:35
I wonder what Connor meant by that? He is from the Toronto area and from experience, Edmonton is a hole.

08 Jan 2020 01:04:35
Your going down Thursday Yupp. Lol.

08 Jan 2020 02:23:17
Ya well Gretz and Mcdavid both have nothing but good things to say about Edm, so 🤷‍♂️ I think he meant he doesn’t like being in the city because he gets hounded every single minute he’s there. Would get pretty annoying don’t ya think.

08 Jan 2020 03:12:39
So McD and Draisaitl are split up again? What makes these lines so different? What are they if you don’t mind telling me?

08 Jan 2020 08:22:17
Professionals are paid to say the right thing. Especially the 2 guys you named, lol. When people kiss the ground you walk on, life is good.

08 Jan 2020 15:56:25
Ok so Mcdavid says he enjoys when he gets to leave Toronto and also says he loves playing in Edm and for those fans every night, But he’s lying? Lol. Alright man 🙄. Whatever you need to say to sleep at night I guess.


Well since about game #5 I’ve wanted to trade for a top six winger like a Hall, Kreider etc or bring in Yamomoto, and I’ve wanted to trade for a good 3C. Someone like a Pageau, Huala, Soderberg type who were traded fornlrettt cheap and Pageau could have been had for cheap early before he spiked his trade value.
But with Neal loving playing with buddy Mcdavid and Kassian who’s a great fit with Mcdavid allows a great well balanced line of Nuge Drai Yamo and then Nygard and Chaisson who are slotted in as 3Ws where they should be. And a great defensive fourth line made up of guys who are part of the 4th best P. K. in the league. No one is slotted in asked to play above their means like we have had all year with way too many 4th liners in every night like asking JJ, Gagner or Archibald to play top 6 minutes. Lol.
Only thing I still want is upgrade 3C somehow, I don’t mind Haas there because I like Nygard and Chaisson as 3W.

08 Jan 2020 15:58:02
Going to be a good game Sosa!
What’s going on with MTL, they sliding big time lately?
Sorry but I just read a nasty rumor that Price May want out if thy miss the playoffs this season. And a rumored deal to Colorado was mentioned. Would be pretty crazy.

08 Jan 2020 16:53:58
I saw that rumor a long time ago actually and comparing it to Roy. I don't think he will go anywhere, but if he did Colorado would be an amazing fit. We might have to retain some money on his contact if we want to get anything back of significant value though.

08 Jan 2020 18:53:48
Lol. I posted that before we lost to Wings. now. ughh. I don't even know what to say . and Price to Avalanche. team that is just missing a star goalie . Hmm reminds me of something . the only difference is now we have a salary cap, and that contract is going to be really hard to move. I'm a huge Price fan, but I'm at the point where I want to see him get his cup, and it just isn't going to happen in a Habs uniform. I'm sad to say.

08 Jan 2020 20:06:41
Hopefully he has already asked to be traded.

09 Jan 2020 12:24:12
And yaaa Gretz continues to praise the city of Edm and the fans his entire life and even works for the organization and Mcdavid and his gf just finished building a nice house there but ya, they hate that sh@thole. I live between Edm and Cal and I like the city of Calgary way better myself, cleaner and easier to get around. But ya, Mcdavid and Gretz both still love the city and fans as much as you hate to believe it.
Also another spot I would like to improve is a 6rh D man. I like Klefbom, Nurse, Bear and Larson as the top 4 right now and Russell is a solid third pairing grinder but they’ve rotated in Benning, Persson, Jones, Manning, Leggsasson this year as that 6th D. Benning is the best of the few but I’ve still never been a fan of his. But Russell Benning is the best combo I think there and might have to do.
Goaltending is fine, when your backup can go .500 and get you 20-30 points and your starter has a good winning record to get the rest to about 94-100 points your on pace to make the playoffs which is what Kosk and smith are doing now.

09 Jan 2020 12:27:01
Man Colorado has become maybe my second favourite team. Makar I think is my favourite D man in the league now and McKinnon is in my top 6 with McDavid, Drai, Nuge, Makar and Pettersson. Price on the Aves would be scary. Would love to see an Oilers Aves western final a few times in the next few years but also scared of them! Would be unreal hockey tho holy.

The Habs impressed me a few weeks ago when I watched a few games, Seemed liked they all played with such good heart and grind, no real big superstars minus Price and awe we, all smaller players it seems but all come together and play for the logo on the front of their jersey rather than the name on the back. Too bad they are struggling now would like to see them in the playoffs for Price and Weber’s sake.


But, you're GOING DOWN TOMORROW! 😜😜🍻🤝.

09 Jan 2020 13:52:50
Lol. ya I hear what your saying Yupp, and ya, I think we are go9ng down. and I also think after this game. Some big changes could come as a result.? Guess we will see.

09 Jan 2020 15:24:33
If we had all our guys back from injury we would be a completely different team. I like how we started the year, lots of grit and heart but with the injuries it has been hard to keep up.
I think your team has the edge tonight Yup, but I can't count out my Habs! We would like to welcome your team to the holy land of the poutine and wish you nothing but luck and stomach cramps from too many cheese curds!

09 Jan 2020 16:47:01
There is a strict no poutine on game day rule.
It’s more of a celebratory meal for after the butt whooping! Ha ha ha 😜😜.
Hey at least we are talking smack BEFORE the game instead of after. Big difference. Respect ✊✊. Lol.
5-2 Oilers win. Maybe 5-3 with our 5th being an empty netter tho. Could be close up to that. Mike Smith getting his 4th straight start. On these tough road games. He got Buffalo, which was going to happen anyways, but then he got Boston last night because Kosk was ill. I think the Toronto start was a bit of earning it and I heard Miko was still a little sick so they stuck with Smith. This start surprised me tho, not sure if he’s getting the nod because he’s earned it by playing well the last 3 road games (5/ 6 points) or if Kosk is still a little sick.
Big game for us in Calgary Saturday too.
Be a fun game tonight tho!

09 Jan 2020 19:20:31
I’m sure if McDavid had the opportunity to leave Edmonton and play on Tampa ( assuming they lose no roster players he’d choose to play there.

09 Jan 2020 21:26:38
I'm always up for smack talk before a game! After is just petty - I try not to do that. I hope it is a close game and fun to watch. Just, don't injure anyone else on my team. we don't have many guys left, lol.

09 Jan 2020 23:17:26
I would be willing to bet that he wouldn’t. Good talk. Thanks for your input on a good conversation.
Hey remember that Mcdavid goal on Riley Monday?

07 Jan 2020 00:37:38
I've been a huge critic of Kovalchuck.and now look, he's on my team... oh boy.. well,, I wish this was 10 years ago.. I hope he does well, I'm not going to expect 40 goal Kovalchuck, but if he scores at a 20 to 25 goal pace, I'll be happy..
Really like the Scandella trade!!!. Re sign him at 10 mil for 3 years.

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07 Jan 2020 04:19:06
It was really a no risk move by the habs I just hope he can play good enough to get something for him at the deadline. tonight was a pretty good start.

08 Jan 2020 01:22:06
Common you guys are Habs fan, have some faith! The team had injuries to key players, had they’re star goalie completely shutting the bed, went threw 2 bad losing streaks yet they are still in a realistic chance to make the playoffs. Blues where in a worst position later in the year and yet they won the cup that very same year. The best part is that they are already playing the way they need the play to make the playoff. All that needs to happen now is for the luck to turn they’re way and for Drouin, Gally, Armia and Byron to come back soon and ready to play. Have faith guys don’t throw the towel yet, the players haven’t!

08 Jan 2020 14:29:09
Sorry Marc., jus being realistic. gadget the loss to the lowly Wings
. i'm now at the point where I want to see Habs get best odds for Lafrennier.

08 Jan 2020 14:41:22
If price is traded in the next 2 weeks I'll get some faith back. And I'm not putting all the blame on him and I actually do like him and would love to see him get back to his hart trophy winning days. But I just don't think it's going to happen in Montreal again. Sure he might string together a couple good games from time to time but his mind just isn't in it anymore. Similar to Patrick Roy a move somewhere with way less pressure might resurrect him. And before you say it. it wasn't just one game that lead to Roy being traded.

06 Jan 2020 04:20:05
What could be possible fixes for San jose's goaltending issues?

potentially aiming to sign Holtby in the off-season?

going for a goalie like Georgiev?

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06 Jan 2020 19:43:18
Get rid of Jones and it’ll get better.

07 Jan 2020 01:04:02
Matt murray.

05 Jan 2020 22:01:32
Drais for bracco who adds?

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06 Jan 2020 16:51:40
Drais Capricone for Jeramy Bracco? Buffalo takes that and runs.

07 Jan 2020 01:54:51
Because of age and contract Edm adds at least a 1st and B prospect, no prospect of Edm retains 3.69M
Bracco has 57 goal 65 point potential and will be elite for at least one season.

 


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