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14 Jun 2021 16:06:13
Was John Tavares biggest mistake signing with the leafs ? Now for a second year in a row the Isles are closer to win than the leafs! With JT in their line up , they would be better.

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12 Jun 2021 23:39:08
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Shocks Part 1 - Mike Tyson v Buster Douglas

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13 Jun 2021 04:31:03
I remember it well. it was the first time we had seen Mike Tyson live. we were absolutely stunned that he lost.

{Ed001's Note - so it could just be that you are a jinx then Habby??}

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13 Jun 2021 06:16:52
Lol. it certainly felt like it at the time. I also remember when Holyfield easily beat buster. how quickly we all agreed that Holyfield was 10x better then Tyson lol. Back then you only knew what you saw on tv. there was no internet to pop on and find out why or what might have been going on outside the ring. We just assumed the buster that fought Tyson was the same buster that fought Holyfield. it wasn’t till much later we realized he wasn’t, we thought the extra weight he put on was all muscle lol that era of heavyweights was pretty solid. not as good as the division in the 70s but still good. I wonder how Tyson would have fared against riddick Bowe.

{Ed001's Note - it is a shame we never got to find out, though Bowe would probably have ducked him like he did Lewis. Let's face it, a peak Tyson was scarier than Lennox Lewis, no matter how one-dimensional he was, the man was frightening.}

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13 Jun 2021 16:30:58
He was. but bowe was scared of Lewis cause Lewis was bigger and could out box him. he may not have been as scared of Tyson as he was much bigger then Mike. I was always torn on how good Tyson actually was. I wouldn’t say he fought all bums but a lot, especially in the Cus years we’re hand picked and up to the buster Douglas fight he had really only fought a handful of decent fighters, I mean tony tucker and bonecrusher smith had both gave him a lot of trouble. both decent fighters but they weren’t close to Holyfield Lewis or bowe imo tyson wouldn’t have dominated the 70s or the 90s but he did dominate the 80s.

{Ed001's Note - the problem was the top fighters were not really there in his time, not until too late for him. The likes of Spinks were probably not really at the same level as Holyfield and Lewis, I wouldn't include Bowe as he was nowhere near either of them or Spinks, Smith, Holmes or Tucker. But Holyfield and Lewis had pretty much the same problem, as they only had each other to fight. It is a shame but boxing was in decline, a decline it has never recovered from and I doubt it ever will now with MMA pushing it aside.}

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13 Jun 2021 20:32:00
Bowe beat Holyfield 2 out of 3 times when they were both in their prime to say he wasn’t close to Holyfield is an argument you would have trouble winning. Holyfield had way more heart but matched against each other there was a slight edge for Bowe. Michael spinks was a better light heavyweight then heavyweight and was so scared before the Tyson fight he had it lost before he entered the ring. Larry Holmes in his prime probably beats them all when he fought Tyson he was way past that though. the guy had probably the best jab in boxing history it would have given anyone trouble including Tyson. if Bowe had fought Tyson and had fought him the same way he fought Holyfield he might beat him too imo. but knowing Bowe he probably would have been afraid of Tyson too like he was with Lennox and refuse to fight him as well lol.

{Ed001's Note - that's the problem with Bowe, he had no bottle, whereas Holyfield wanted to fight everyone. So I know Bowe beat him, but when you look overall at who was the best, you wouldn't even mention Bowe, but Holyfield often gets talked about. The same as Spinks though for me, Holyfield was better at light-heavy.

Can't argue on Holmes, he was top class in his prime, would have been good to see him take on Tyson then.}

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13 Jun 2021 20:33:13
I’d still rather watch an amateur boxing fight then a championship mma fight. always have and always will.

{Ed001's Note - I like both personally.}

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13 Jun 2021 21:50:51
I remember that fight, and like all, was shocked to hear Mike Tyson lost. I had never even heard of Buster Douglas at the time. at the time Mike Tyson ( if I remember right) was the biggest name in sports at the time.
For me there are 2 Mike Tysons, the before Robin Givens, and the after.
The before would have won against anyone, any era at anytime. Unfortunately, Tysons peak was at a time where there wasn't a great group of fighters to go against. When he lost to Holyfield, Lewis, he was no longer the same guy he was when he was in early 20's .
His best competition in his top moments I believe was Razor Ruddick.

{Ed001's Note - Ruddock had his jaw broken in their first fight, never seemed the same afterwards sadly.}

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14 Jun 2021 03:47:02
Let’s just say prime Ali doesn’t beat him which I think he does. but do you think Tyson beats prime George foreman? he was just as intimidating as Mike before Ali brought him back down to earth. hell foreman was beating good fighters and still giving great fighters like Holyfield trouble when he was almost 50. Tyson eventhough we didn’t know it at the time was weak mentally for a professional boxer. can't really fault him for that after what he went through as a kid. but really good competition would have brought it out of him sooner. he will be the first to tell you he wouldn’t have beaten Ali. ALi was willing to die in the ring Tyson never was.7 or 8 rounds of 1960s Ali dancin and stickin Tyson quits on his chair like Liston did. and 70s Ali would have beat him just like he did with foreman.

{Ed001's Note - I think Foreman beats him. They were both wrecking balls but Foreman was bigger and tougher.}

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12 Jun 2021 00:53:45
I have just made a amical bet that Montreal is winning the cup before Leafs win a playoff round. I am 100% confident I am winning this bet as soon as this year. It's Montreal's cup to loose!

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12 Jun 2021 12:43:20
I like your confidence in the Habs!
However, there are 3 other really good teams that will also have a say in how this all works out.

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12 Jun 2021 15:24:05
Vegas made a laughing stock out on f Vegas’s choice to win.

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12 Jun 2021 20:55:05
It definitely won’t be easy Sosa, but these guys seem to want it more then those other 3 teams tho. If Montreal wins the Vegas round, I think it’s settle.

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10 Jun 2021 12:44:20
How is it possible , New York got one of the weakest roster in the nhl and yet they made it to back to back semi final ? Even the blues and leafs got a better roster then them.

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10 Jun 2021 18:58:07
Trotz is the best coach in the league. They play a very good defensive game. The oilers might even have a better roster than them, right Barrie?

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10 Jun 2021 20:59:07
They don't have a weak roster, They are a solid bunch, but not spectacular, except for maybe Barzal. The team plays the system that Barry Trotz has put into place and they play it well. Everyman knows there role, and Trotz has got the most out of his players. that's why I posted below he is the best coach.
Its not often, but I this case, I believe the most valuable Islander is maybe the Coach?

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11 Jun 2021 04:34:11
Ok soso habs or Isles who win? They are basically the same team.

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11 Jun 2021 08:42:41
It all depends, Habs have the big edge in net with Price, if he is on his game. I do believe there is more skill on Habs forwards , but I believe that the Isles have more grit and are way more physical.
It would come down to who makes the least mistakes.

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10 Jun 2021 02:06:24
Barry Trotz should just win coach of the year every year.
IMO.. he's the best coach since the turn of the century.

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09 Jun 2021 16:58:57
So obviously I'm extremely happy about how my Habs are doing. It's been a lot of fun to watch and there does seem to be a different feeling than a couple other runs they have had..,
However, I just don't see anyone beating Tampa again this year.. I sure hope i'm wrong, and its my team hoisting the cup.

Is Tampa the most complete team in maybe 20 years or so..I think of Chicago, Pittsburgh and LA who have won multiple cups the last decade or so.. were any of those teams better than the Bolts?

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09 Jun 2021 17:59:44
Chicago was for sure.

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09 Jun 2021 18:30:03
That's a good question. I think a lot would pick Tampa due to recency bias, but they are a very good team.

Chicago was good, but Tampa would have the goaltending advantage.

LA could put up a fight too, but they were a more heavy team, so things they got away with then, they may not now.

Pittsburgh on their prime as well would be good, but I think Tampa would have the advantage defensively.

I think Chicago or Pittsburgh would give then the best run. Who would you pick Sosa?

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09 Jun 2021 21:56:21
Im going to be called a biased homer for this comment. If Montreal keeps playing the way they are playing and stick to the system while adapting if necessary, they can compete with Tampa.

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09 Jun 2021 23:00:42
I don't think any of them were as good.
Vasi is the beat goalie, (next to playoff Price), Hedman might be the best D man since Lidstrom, and then you add all the other guys like McDonough, Sergachev ect to that D. Up front, all that firepower with Kucherov, Stamkos, the offense and 2 way play of Point, then add Cirelli, Kilorn and others. It's a really good team up and down the line up.

I think Chicago would give them the best run, but I still believe Tampa would come out on top.

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10 Jun 2021 02:36:22
Chicago with P. Kane, Towes, Sharp, Hossa, Ladd, Keith, Buffuglyn, Campbell, and Seabrook was special

Detroit with Federov, Yzerman, Brett Hull, Brandon Shannahan, Luc Roubatails, Pavel Datsyuk, Hendrick Zetterberg, Nicklas Lindstrom, Chris Chelios and Dominic Hasek was the greatest team ever on paper but they didn’t win. A lot of those players were up there in age at the time tho.

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10 Jun 2021 03:52:11
I don’t care I just hope Vegas lose.

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10 Jun 2021 04:39:04
Was hasek and zetterberg in Detroit the same time? I didn’t think they were. I think the rest minus zetterberg did win a cup together though right? Still probably not best team on paper either way.

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10 Jun 2021 19:08:38
You’re definitely bias Anderson but any team can win a series, especially with a hot goalie. I disagree Barrie, I’d love to see Pacioretty against Suzuki. If Colorado loses tonight, Kadri should be traded to Arizona. It’s one thing to be missing a top player due to injury, it’s a whole different story when it’s because someone can’t control their emotions. I personally think Colorado or Vegas will win the cup over Tampa.

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12 Jun 2021 00:50:43
I know I am Toronto17. I do think I’m realistic tho. I have said at the beginning of the year that this was Montreal cup to loose this year. Everybody on this site called me exactly what you just called me. Now there is 4 teams left and altough we still have the hardest second half to accomplish, my comment has aged well hasn’t it? Good on Toronto for winning 3 games, but anyone who actually knows about playoff hockey could of told you Montreal was going to come back. There is just a handful of teams in this league willing to pay the price. So yes I am biased but at least it’s for a team that still has a solid chance of winning it all this year!

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12 Jun 2021 15:40:03
“Anyone who actually knows about playoff hockey could have told you Montreal was going to come back”. This is why I said habby and Sosa were the only respectful habs fans on this site. That is a ridiculous comment. I’m sure many people hoped they’d come back and many leaf fans knew they could blow it. I believe teams have come back from down 3-1 about 30 times in NHL history, so it’s not about knowing playoff hockey.

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09 Jun 2021 04:50:58
Memarcus jets how do you explain Dubois terrible performances ? Do you think Roslovic would have done a better job ?

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09 Jun 2021 19:46:00
Did you get tired of trolling leaf fans? How do you explain the oilers playoff performance? Do you think Buffalo would’ve done a better job?

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09 Jun 2021 23:26:58
@T17 lolol.

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08 Jun 2021 23:19:17
To me I think Morgan Rielly could be traded to either Vancouver, New Jersey or Ny Rangers.

What do u guys think?

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09 Jun 2021 22:02:13
Im not sure about his value to be honest. He wasn’t great against Montreal defensively. I’m assuming he’s still worth a late first + B prospect as a rental.

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10 Jun 2021 02:37:45
Vancouver? Is Hughes going the other way? May as well trade for Yandel and Sign DeAngelo while they’re at it. How many Offensive dman do they need?

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