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20 May 2020 23:24:56
wpg:LAINE
TOR;NYLANDER, johnnson,6th.

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1.) 21 May 2020 03:11:23
No from Winnipeg. Johnsson isn't needed by the Jets and Nylander is nowhere close to Laine in skill or quality. Not a well thought or troll.


2.) 21 May 2020 03:20:43
No thanks leafs won’t be able to afford Laine in two years, Nylander has redeemed himself anyway and his contract is starting to look very good compared to what others may turn out to be.


3.) 21 May 2020 05:08:57
Absolutely love Laine but Tavares and Mathews are both Goal scoring centres he needs a playmaker. No from both teams.


4.) 21 May 2020 15:49:36
Not a chance the Jets trade Laine for that weak package.


5.) 21 May 2020 16:00:51
Nylander had more goals than Laine this year. Only reason Jets would do this is because over 40% of Nylanders contract has already been paid. He's cheap. Laine would be happy though. Almost guaranteed to get over 10 million next contract with Dubas.


6.) 21 May 2020 18:34:06
The Jets don't need the money as they are owned by the richest person in Canada. Unlike the Leafs they also have over $11 mil in cap space at the end of the season to sign a free agent they need or trade for a top end player that they want. Nylander will be the 1st overpaid Leaf signing to be jettisoned when they get desperate for a real top pairing d-man.


7.) 21 May 2020 19:25:55
Nylander is not overpayed at all? He’s getting payed 2 million less the Skinner. Players like Hayes, Duchene, Myers, JVR etc who signed recently are all older, worse and more expensive then Nylander. I’d argue out of Nylander, Tavares, Mathews and Marner, Nylander has the best contract.


8.) 21 May 2020 20:14:34
Chill boys, this is horrible. But I think it was a slight troll. I know this guy, he is my brother, and for some reason, he think Liane is not that good.


9.) 21 May 2020 20:22:33
sorry, my brother actually m, ent this isn't horrible.


10.) 21 May 2020 22:40:26
c'mon this is not bad.


 

 

26 Apr 2020 18:28:34
Leafs trade: Kapanen
Canes trade 1st
The leafs get there own first back and some cap space. Carolina gets a good middle 6 forward on a good contract. It doesn't have to be Carolina. It could also be Calgary, Edmonton, Dallas, or another similar team.

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1.) 26 Apr 2020 19:09:52
Kapanen isn’t worth a first lol.


2.) 26 Apr 2020 20:00:37
Kappanen is most definitely worth a First if Goodrow/ Hartman are worth firsts.


3.) 26 Apr 2020 20:00:54
Kapanen is 23 and a 20 goal scorer. He's the best 3rd line rw inthe league. He's only payed 3 mil, then in 2 years he's an rfa. Maybe tor adds a 3rd or 4th but its pretty close.


4.) 26 Apr 2020 22:26:59
No adds needed he is most definitely worth a mid 1st.


5.) 26 Apr 2020 23:59:22
I think Toronto should keep Kappy. He’s cheap, good and likes being a leaf. I do think he’s worth a late first.


6.) 27 Apr 2020 09:07:10
I agree with MagicMarc first of all, TOR should keep him. But if they were to trade him, and this is even more surprising, I got to agree with VB here. Kapanen is relatively young, signed to a good contract for 3 more years and the Canes 1st wouldn't be a lottery pick most likely. I don't necessarily think CAR would be the team to trade for him, but I could definitely see him fetch a mid-late 1st from some team (s) .


7.) 27 Apr 2020 20:13:13
Agree with you guys on Kappys value, vb magic marc and triplets. I was just scared of trolls like veritius critisizing me too hard. However, I nearly gaurentee that one of Kappy, Johnsson and Kerfoot are traded. Tor doesn't need all three at the price they are paying.


8.) 27 Apr 2020 22:14:01
Johnsson probably stays because of injury his value is low he would’ve commanded a 1st but not anymore. I hope it’s Kerfoot and it’s for a less offensive but More physical 3C like Copp or Bennet. Kappanen can return the most but his speed brings a lot to the leafs.


9.) 29 Apr 2020 00:43:47
I agree with farmboy for agreeing with ttiplets for agreeing with magicmarc. Baa! Baa! Baa! The sheep have spoken.


 

 

23 Apr 2020 15:14:27
Tor gets: Mcdavid, Kassian
Edm gets: Matthews, Nylander
Not Sure if this is enough for McDavid, but I think it's pretty close. Edm is always looking for line mate for Mcdavid and Drais, Matthews, Nylander would be a great line. Mcdavid and Marner would also be great.

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1.) 23 Apr 2020 15:22:06
of course I do realize this will never happen, so there is no need to tell me.


2.) 23 Apr 2020 15:41:50
If you like, change Kassian out with someone not as good, like Pully.


3.) 23 Apr 2020 16:08:20
There would be no need for the Oilers to add Kassian or Pulji and the Leafs would need to add a young 1D, that you don't have, instead of Nylander to get the converstion going. Matthews is good, but nowhere near McDavid especially when you factor in his horrific contract. The Oilers would be better off just staying with what they have.


4.) 23 Apr 2020 17:09:39
The gap between McDavid, Mathews, Mackinnon, Jones, Eichel, Drais etc is so much smaller then what people believe. No team is giving a 1c and a 1D for a small upgrade ( yes McDavids better but point is both are Franchise hall of famers ) . No sense arguing with pylons tho.


5.) 23 Apr 2020 17:35:00
Conversely vbbb it is actually only Leaf homers who refuse to acknowledge the huge gap in skill and contract. Unbiased posters have no problem seeing it.


6.) 23 Apr 2020 17:58:40
Why do you think Edmonton doesn’t want Nylander Marcus? Their biggest need is a 1RW.


7.) 23 Apr 2020 19:25:29
Well they might, I'm not up on what Edmonton wants or needs. It's just if it was me, if I'm moving McDavid to try and make my team better, I'd want a replacement 1C and a young 1D as 1D are far harder to find than top end wingers. That would have a chance at making my team better.

As good as they are Nylander and Matthews together cost $6 mil more than McDavid and don't make my team $6 million better than McDavid alone. Plus both expire a year earlier than McDavid, meaning I'm going to have to pay even more and pay sooner.

I'd rather keep McDavid with the longer and better contract and the extra cap space. Dubas blowing it big time on those contracts really hampers their value to other teams when you are trying to acquire guys under contract for a longer term.


8.) 23 Apr 2020 20:13:40
Yes we get it Memarcusjoe Austin Mathews is an overpaid forth liner and Andrew Copp is a top 5 winger in the NHL.

Take it this way Mathews would be the best player in Winnipeg/ Atlanta franchise history. He’s only getting paid 1 million more then Towes. Wouldn’t say he’s overpaid.


9.) 23 Apr 2020 20:36:09
I've never said anything like that vbbb. Matthews is overpaid by about $3 million and wouldn't even be the best current Jet, let alone best Jet in history.

Just because someone doesn't agree with you that Matthews is the best player in the history of hockey or any other sport, doesn't mean they think he is terrible.


10.) 23 Apr 2020 20:42:18
I laid out pretty clearly above why I think it isn't a good trade, yet all you can do is wildly exaggerate statements instead of trying to construct a post outlining why it is a good deal in your eyes.


11.) 23 Apr 2020 21:23:36
You made some good points, Marcus, but I disagree with you that Matthews would not be the best player on the jets. He may be slightly over paid but not 3 mil. He's probably a top 5 centre in the league.


12.) 23 Apr 2020 21:36:48
We'll just have to agree to disagree Farmboy. Matthews is a good player, but not a top 5 center in the league, he's far too one dimensional for that. He definitely is around $3 mil overpaid when you factor in the length of his contract.


13.) 23 Apr 2020 21:52:47
Matthews and Nylander wouldn't get McDavid as much as I like both players.

Conversely, this trade doesn't make sense for either franchise, as it just weakens the overall foundation of the Leafs, and the Oilers are losing the best asset in the trade.

Also, Matthews is overpaid by maybe 1M, lol. He'd be the best current Jet by a landslide, don't tell me Wheeler would be better cause frankly, I'll take the #10 point producer and #2 goal scorer in the league rn, lol. Matthews' term is the issue on his contract, not the dollar amount itself, the salary is on the upper side, but that's not the issue, it's the fact that it walks him to UFA.


14.) 23 Apr 2020 22:50:42
There is no one on the Jets as good as Mathews no not even on the same level. Schifele is the Jets best player and he has Kyle Connor and wheeler on his line. His TOI is higher then Mathews and his pts per game is lower. Advanced statistics heavily suggest Matthews is a bettter player. The big thing with Schifele is his shot generation is very weak and his possession metrics is not elite but rather average. You can make an argument for Mathews being the second to best scorer in the nhl.

If mathews made 3 million less he’d make less then Jeff Skinner and 5 million less then Paniran. You can’t compare Mathews contract to people signed 5 years ago because inflation drives up value of contracts. Inflation is a concept idiots including you and many others Here cannot grasp and saying he is overpaid when contracts like Towes ( 4 years ago! ), Eichel, Skinner, Bob, Paniran, Doghtys, Karlsson, ETC All point towards it being market value.


15.) 23 Apr 2020 23:43:16
It would take a crazy offer to pry McD out of Edmonton and even with Matthews the Leafs would have to offer much more.


16.) 24 Apr 2020 02:39:12
Marcus I would like to know which jets you think are better than Matthews. You should really try to expand on your thoughts if you want me to agree.


17.) 24 Apr 2020 03:22:51
Farmboy, it's kind of derailing the discussion which was supposed to be about Matthews and McDavid.

Vbbb changed the subject because he couldn't counter any of the points rationally.


18.) 24 Apr 2020 07:08:58
Lmao sure, let's go ahead and call AM a hall of famer after like 2 or 3 seasons.


19.) 24 Apr 2020 16:43:10
The_Triplets you don’t think Mathews is going to the hall of fame?


20.) 24 Apr 2020 20:43:32
You are doing the same, Marcus. Mcdavid might be the best player in the league but Matthews is not as far behind as you think. There are not many players that score 47 goals at age 22, let alone in 70 games.


21.) 24 Apr 2020 20:45:00
Matthews will be a hall of fame unless he declines a lot (of course that could happen, but its unlikely) .


 

 

17 Apr 2020 02:54:57
Tor gets: Dumda, 2nd
Min gets: Nylander
Minny gets their 1c and tor gets their 1rd.

Farmboy

1.) 17 Apr 2020 07:09:14
What in the world makes you think MIN would add a 2nd here?


2.) 17 Apr 2020 09:18:23
I agree the pick is on the wrong side, but is Nylander a 1c? When did that happen?


3.) 17 Apr 2020 10:57:37
Nylander for Dumba is more than fair, no need to add a pick. If I was Toronto I would go for someone else. Not worth giving up Nylander. The Chemistry, Friendship and Skill that Nylander produces is not worth trading imo. If Calgary doesn’t resign Erik Gustafsson, I say nab him. Tj Brodie would even be a good option from FA.


4.) 17 Apr 2020 13:22:55
Dumba is a much better defenseman than Nylander is a winger. Toronto would be adding.


5.) 17 Apr 2020 13:32:08
yes, Nylander is usually a 2rw, but he could be a 1c on minny, that's why I said 1c. But, why on earth would tor add to Nylander to get Dumba? Nylander has almost 60 points and Dumba has not broke 25 points this year or last year (yes I know he was injured last year) .


6.) 17 Apr 2020 13:56:16
But again points isn’t everything. Also comparing points by a forward to a D is not a fair trade most of the time. A forward will more often then not have more points.


7.) 17 Apr 2020 14:23:06
Lol. That's always a good way to compare defensemen to wingers. points. smh.


8.) 17 Apr 2020 14:58:06
I thought Dumba was a good not great d-man until Minny played the Jets in the playoffs 2 years ago. The Wild only had 3 good d-men due to injuries and Dumba never got off the ice and played like a true #1 every team would want. He was in the conversation for the Norris the next season until he was injured and missed most of the season. The big question is if Dumba is 100% he is worth much more than Nylander who isn't a true center let alone a #1 that the Wild need.


9.) 17 Apr 2020 21:28:55
I don’t see a fit with Dumba I find him overrated and I personally feel like he is not the shut down guy they need. I feel like by non leaf fans Leafs players are very underrated. If I were the leafs and i were to move Nylander it’s be for a player on Pesces level or an Older vet dman if nothing was available I’d just hold onto him. On HFBoards a San Jose fan proposed Nylander for Burns. I’d rather make that trade then this. Also Gustafson is not even close to a fit for Toronto he’s is one of the most 1 dimensional dman in the league I wouldn’t take him on the leafs for league minimum.


10.) 18 Apr 2020 15:36:57
Doesn't matter what position Nylander plays, Dumba isn't worth Nylander in any way. No chance. If this was before the injury, maybe. Post injury, no chance.


11.) 18 Apr 2020 21:59:32
Burns is not better than Dumba.


12.) 18 Apr 2020 22:51:00
Brent Burns is a top 10 dman in the NHL he is elite physically and Offensively while still solid in his own end. Look at the minutes he logs for San Jose.


13.) 19 Apr 2020 13:19:21
He’s also 35 and will drop off very quickly.


14.) 19 Apr 2020 16:15:19
Can't see how Burns is someone you would want on your team over Dumba. Long term anyway. For just a year or two, Burns is probably still the better way to go.


 

 

 

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22 May 2020 18:22:48
Ok, whatever, I don't care about the panthers, so sure, the are a top 20 team. And yes, I do see jets fans claiming the jets are great. And have I ever said the leafs are the best team in the nhl or that they will win the cup? No, I said they are top 15. Just face it,

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22 May 2020 16:55:35
by that logic, the jets are also terrible, but that means they are even worse. Also the stars beat the jets a lot last year.

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22 May 2020 02:12:50
pointless trade.

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22 May 2020 02:03:38
I believe you vb, but why is that relevant? Hyman plays 1stline more.

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22 May 2020 02:02:56
By that logic, memarcusjoe, Leafs also play the lighting and Bruins 14 times each. Also, have you ever actually looked at the standings and saw that you require less points to reach the playoffs in the west than the east? I not kidding, the east is much better, so the jets have a huge advantage over them. I will admit that perhaps the Metropolitan division is better due to depth, but the Atlantic has the star teams, and is better than both west divisions.

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22 May 2020 02:11:03
I think that is fairly good vb. Not sure where yogurt minny as the worst though.

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22 May 2020 02:09:15
I think it is not a bad idea. Maybe it is me being selfish and wanting the Leafs to play the Jackets and not the Lightning or Bruins. I think that with no fans, the risk is low, and since the nhl players are all very healthy, the chances of them dying from the virus is slim I think. It affects old people worse.

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29 Apr 2020 03:32:24
Kotkaniami
Makar
Petterson because he's younger
Matthews
Mcdavid
Draisitle only because he's younger though
Boeser (see boys, I'm not all toronto Bias)

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