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29 Aug 2021 13:55:18
Three way deal

Eichel to Calgary

Marner, Monahan to Buffalo

Tkachuk to Toronto

Thatguy

1.) 29 Aug 2021 15:19:11
Calgary loses both Monahan and Tkachuk for Eichel?
Sorry don't see that happening.


2.) 29 Aug 2021 17:06:27
Two upvotes in a week. @Pinball is on a roll!


3.) 29 Aug 2021 19:30:01
I think bith Buffalo and Calgary would prefer picks and prospects to Tkachuck. Buffalo is in a rebuild and probably secretly wants to tank this year for a chance at 1st overall.


4.) 29 Aug 2021 19:30:21
I am DELIGHTED to agree with Pinball. that's TWICE! 👍.


5.) 29 Aug 2021 22:23:07
Don't worry MoxNix and Chickenfoot I am sure I will have you both shaking your heads at me by the end of the week. Lol.


6.) 30 Aug 2021 15:35:35
I agree with pinball, Monahan and Tkachuk for Eichel is laughable.


7.) 30 Aug 2021 16:15:07
'ATTA BOY PINBALL!

I'm sure you will, but great reply👍.


8.) 31 Aug 2021 21:35:57
If Eichel were healthy no one in their right mind would take Tkachuk over him.


 

 

14 Aug 2021 22:04:02
T.D.W.D.(the dubas way out)....

...Blame it on Hunter.



To Calgary:

Mitch Marner - 10, 903,000
Morgan Reilly - 5,000.000
Peirre Engvall - 1.25
Liljegren - 835,698



RETURN:

Matthew Tkachuk -7 mil

Noah Hanifin - 4.95 mil

Nikita Zadorov - signed at 2.2

Brett Ritchie - 900,00

Thatguy

1.) 15 Aug 2021 11:20:40
Calgary hangs up.


2.) 15 Aug 2021 19:41:23
Ya uhhh little one sided there bud.


3.) 15 Aug 2021 22:46:55
Any leaf trade is lopsided. You could post mathews for her and so. eone would find a way for leafs to add.


4.) 16 Aug 2021 00:01:00
You know what's funny?

Leafs fans.

Just about every trade they propose would be great for Toronto and terrible for the other team (or teams) involved. Usually it involves the team taking on a big increase in cap hit with no thought whatsoever if they can afford it or not.

Calgary isn't going to Toronto a huge favor by taking on the Leafs cap problems and sending back some of their own best players in return.


5.) 17 Aug 2021 02:36:53
Marner straight up for Tkachuk, who says no, curious to see who people think has more value to a team.

Imo Marner earns the money he makes being a top 5 point producer in the league, but does a player with grit and sandpaper like Tkachuk who can also put up a lot of points have more value.

How about just ignoring the cap hit, who is the better player?


6.) 17 Aug 2021 18:08:54
Calgary laughs and hangs up. 11M for a guy who can't score when the games matter? NO THANKS!


7.) 17 Aug 2021 20:05:16
@Chickenfoot No need to hang up, just make a counter offer.

If you retain 3 mil per year on Marner trade our soft left winger who becomes invisible when the games matter for your soft right winger who becomes invisible when the games matter.


8.) 17 Aug 2021 20:29:36
With no cap value, I think Tkachuk and marner are close in value. adding cap makes marner worth less. Hanifin probably worth more than reilly for contract status.

The only reason reilly is being thought about in a trade, is his contract is up. everyone knows this. Swap Tkachuk for gadreau. And Toronto retains the 900k to make marner 10m.


9.) 19 Aug 2021 00:01:27
@MoxNix:

If I were building a lineup, Marner is not in it. At any price.

11M for a sweetheart like that is a non-starter. He's barely a PPG player.

You said CGY hangs up, and I agree with you. No basis for a deal from Calgary's perspective.


10.) 19 Aug 2021 04:21:07
@Chickenfoot Normally I'd agree but what my counter offer was trading him for Gaudreau with 3 mil retained on Marner. I wouldn't consider it at all for anyone but Gaudreau and even then only with a big chunk of Marner's salary retained by Toronto.

Even then I'd only do it because Calgary is strong at LW and weak at RW. Trade our soft offensive LW for their soft offensive RW.

Mind you my math was a little off, I should have said 3.5-4 mil retained on Marner instead of only 3.


11.) 19 Aug 2021 12:48:29
@MoxNix:

A counter-offer is best made when there is some basis for a potential deal. (I'm a deal-maker in a different industry, and I don't see a potential deal here for either side, thus my response. )

I base this on:

- Dubas has shown little interest in learning from mistakes and adjusting course. Instead, he has stubbornly doubled down on the "we can and we will" mentality when it comes to breaking up the 4 guys consuming half his cap.

- Dubas is unlikely to deal Marner and hold back salary because it would be a tacit admission that he lost (badly) his Marner negotiation.

- Trades are made for a variety of reasons, but generally, you trade what you have an abundance of to address a weakness. The leafs should trade Marner, but the return should focus on D, Goaltending, and prospects or picks. They don't have enough of any of those 3 things. Gaudreau is an exciting player, but they help at D and G more.

- Ultimately, the leafs have neither the cap space, prospects, or draft picks to ever fix their top-heavy lineup, which has never won anything. It's over. When Scooby doubled down on his core this summer, ownership should have fired him and hired an experienced GM do the obvious.

- The next leaf GM will have to break up the 4 big contracts and rebuild. They have nothing in the system, and 3 picks next year. Its obvious what they need, and what they don't. Trading Marner will be key, but Gaudreau is the wrong return, and this GM won't trade him regardless.


12.) 19 Aug 2021 15:35:34
It was a sarcastic counter offer.

I know Dubas won't trade Marner just like Treliving has stubbornly refused to trade Gaudreau.


13.) 19 Aug 2021 18:12:00
It's very difficult to detect sarcasm in the written form minus tone, but I agree with you that Scooby is unlikely to learn and change course. I get the sense Gaudreau will be traded, but I guess time will tell.


 

 

05 Jun 2019 17:10:55
NJ trades - Hall, and their 2020 4th round draft pick to Jets for:

Patrick Laine, 2020 2nd

Thatguy

1.) 05 Jun 2019 17:51:43
I like Hall, but I'm not trading Laine for a soon to be UFA that in all likelihood will want a bigger contract than Laine will get.


2.) 05 Jun 2019 17:55:55
Hughes and Laine would be nuts.


3.) 05 Jun 2019 19:19:00
If it wasn't for the amount Hall would want for his next contract it would be interesting but I agree with marcus the Jets say no.


4.) 05 Jun 2019 19:55:10
If I we're Chevy, I'd roll the dice on Laine and go for a 8 year deal for around 9.25M. You over pay for the first two years, but your hopping that you underpay if he actually goes off to a 50 goal scorer each season.
If you can't do the 8 year deal, than I would look to see what interest is out there for him. 8 years or nothing in my opinion.


5.) 05 Jun 2019 20:33:35
I was thinking in the realm of Laine already wanting out of Winepeg and carrying on with the rumor of Hall wanting out of NJ.

Sure Chevy and the jets are pressed and have always been tight when it comes to the cap and throwing money but if you have a chance to acquire Taylor Hall while knowing Laine may be problematic in the future for the Jets you find other ways to fit him in.

As mentioned earlier Laine and Hughes would be nuts, the fire power up front for the Jets would also be nuts.


6.) 05 Jun 2019 22:07:30
Thatguy, a Laine-Hughes line won't happen. Because if Laine is going to NJ, then 1st overall is going to Winnipeg. Hall won't do it as the Jets won't want an older, more expensive player in return for Laine.


7.) 05 Jun 2019 23:37:06
Laine isn't getting you the 1st overall. It's an interesting idea. Winnipeg is in a win now mode so adding Hall makes them immediately better. I've read Laine wants in the $10million area. I personally don't think he's done enough to warrant getting that much. Interesting none the less.


8.) 06 Jun 2019 00:55:38
1st overall and Miles Wood for Schifele, Laine And Trouba would be the starting price for 1st overall.


9.) 06 Jun 2019 03:40:11
I do not think Hall is worth Laine. He is good, yes. Very good. But I think Laine is worth more. Until we see next year maybe Hall does good again and he is signed.


10.) 06 Jun 2019 14:43:11
Actually, the first overall has done nothing to prove its worth Laine. I know most guys here over value picks and prospects to the ultimate. But that is some truly dense thinking. 😆.


11.) 06 Jun 2019 15:47:19
Wow the jets guys are truly insane. You guys just trolls or actually believe first overall isn't worth a soon to be overpaid one demesional player?


12.) 06 Jun 2019 16:34:21
Very ture joe. Hughes has not proven anything yet.
Liane has proven to be streaky and inconsistent. I wouldn't offer him 10M a year. maybe do a bridge deal at 8M.


13.) 07 Jun 2019 10:51:25
Marcus you player evaluation are crazy high you may be the biggest homer on this site. Nj is gunna draft kakko.


14.) 07 Jun 2019 10:54:47
the only people overvaluing anything are the jets fans here.


 

 

07 Aug 2018 06:17:09
St. Louis
Parayko
Fabbri
St.Louis 2019 1st

for Erik Karlsson

Thatguy

1.) 07 Aug 2018 06:30:56
Well that’s an easy yes from Ottawa.


2.) 07 Aug 2018 07:40:01
Is it an easy yes for Ottawa?

I'd say even Karlsson would welcome it and sign a longer deal.


3.) 07 Aug 2018 07:41:11
Meant to say. Is it an easy yes for the Blues?

I'd say so too. ;)


4.) 07 Aug 2018 07:45:12
It is after all, something that could throw the Blues over the top as much as it is good for the Sens.


5.) 07 Aug 2018 16:37:27
I wouldn’t trade Paryanko straight up for Karlsson.


6.) 07 Aug 2018 18:19:43
vbbbvvbb I agree with you i wouldn't trade parayko for a soon to be ufa dman let alone adding fabbri and a 1st no thank you.


7.) 07 Aug 2018 19:47:24
Paraykos contract makes him kind of an equivalent to scheifele. Where centres not nearly as good are going to be getting $9+ mill and he makes $6.1mill for 6 more years. Parayko at $5.5 mill for a few more years while top D (doughty, karlsoon) will be $11 mill and the next tier like OEL, Burns, Carlson etc get $8-$8.5. Hedman is the bargain of the bunch at $7.75 mill or whatever lol.


8.) 08 Aug 2018 19:03:44
There should be no way they trade him. They couldn't fit karlson under the kap. He needs to go to a team like vegas or NY with cap room.


 

 

11 Jul 2018 21:05:29
Three way deal

Karlsson
Pacioretty
Alzner to Canucks


Montreals 2019 1st,Victor Mete
Vancouvers 2019 1st,2020 2nd, and Joulevi
to Ottawa


Brandon Sutter, Gudbranson to Montreal

Thatguy

1.) 11 Jul 2018 21:15:16
Hahahaha. Wtf.
You're going to get some screaming form Habs fans. This is absolutely laughable from a Habs stand point.
Pacioretty, 2019 1st, Mete, Alzner for Sutter and Gudbranson? Lmao
Karlsson for ALL that? What are you smoking.


2.) 11 Jul 2018 21:36:44
so @Thatguy can you justify how Habs profit from this?

Like they trade a consistent 30+ goal, 60+ point guy, a possible top
10 pick, there best D-prospect and maybe an overpaid D but not a terrible one and get an injury pron 3rd-line C and a replacement for Alzner.

Because I can not see any profit from this.


3.) 13 Jul 2018 13:45:13
ottawa takes this and runs
vancouver laughs to the bank
montreal cries into a poutine
why would montreal do this. at all?


4.) 13 Jul 2018 16:14:25
Canucks would laugh... far in the phone then hang up... why would a rebuilding team take patches... and EK the main trade prices.....


5.) 20 Jul 2018 14:47:58
Unless montreal and vancouver are both lottery teams in next offseason this deal is horrible for the sens.

Who the heck is mate and jolevi? Honestly.


 

 

 

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14 Sep 2021 14:58:14
With the rising C.V. numbers anyone else think that they may have to resort to the same system and divisions they had in place next year for this year as well?

Thatguy

1.) 15 Sep 2021 17:31:00
Think it all depends on politicians. I sure hope not though., don't get me wrong, I like seeing Habs play the Western Canadian teams, but not 7 or 8 times, or whatever it was. I miss the Habs vs Bruins, Penguins, Rangers ect.


2.) 16 Sep 2021 02:02:03
I agree @sosahabs24 and sure it is great to see some of the rivalries you mention and really I am still surprised last year played out with sucsess as we were at least able to view a season plus the playoffs because of the bubble formation. Guess I am just hoping for at least that to occur again if worse comes to worse. Fingers crossed though (like everyone) that c.v. numbers somehow reduces in order to get the norm back in place, just that now, numbers are back on the rise dramatically.


 

 

 

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05 Jun 2019 20:33:35
I was thinking in the realm of Laine already wanting out of Winepeg and carrying on with the rumor of Hall wanting out of NJ.

Sure Chevy and the jets are pressed and have always been tight when it comes to the cap and throwing money but if you have a chance to acquire Taylor Hall while knowing Laine may be problematic in the future for the Jets you find other ways to fit him in.

As mentioned earlier Laine and Hughes would be nuts, the fire power up front for the Jets would also be nuts.

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07 Aug 2018 07:45:12
It is after all, something that could throw the Blues over the top as much as it is good for the Sens.

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07 Aug 2018 07:41:11
Meant to say. Is it an easy yes for the Blues?

I'd say so too. ;)

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07 Aug 2018 07:40:01
Is it an easy yes for Ottawa?

I'd say even Karlsson would welcome it and sign a longer deal.

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I think Boyle heads to Tampa

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