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30 Aug 2021 01:16:27
Ottawa receives Drouin and a 2nd in 2022 for Tierney.
Ottawa gets a low risk high reward player (they have money to spend, and if he sucks just leave him on ltir) and they get a pick.

Montreal gets a depth forward and sheds cap so they can resign KK.


1.) 30 Aug 2021 16:09:28
You can't put a player on LTIR "if he sucks".

LTIR is for injured players on "long term injured reserve". He's ready to go, and can't go on LTIR.

2.) 30 Aug 2021 19:36:46
He’s still on LTIR… practice team him and if he sucks than never take him off.
Leaving a guy on LtIr is exactly what Tampa did.

3.) 30 Aug 2021 22:26:55
Tampa embellished the injury, and strung the league along.

Drouin has been declared ready and won't come off LTIR till the players start getting paid again when the season starts. Similarly, Weber won't play this year, but won't go on LTIR till the players start getting paid again.

Regardless, you can't put a player on LTIR "because you think he sucks". Fact.



07 Aug 2021 13:38:42
Is there any possibility of a 3 team trade with Eichel to NYR, Zib to a 3rd team and a package of Chytil + Georgiev + assets for Zib a possibility.
What kind of teams would want him. I personally don't think he's worth 9M AAV as he's too hot and cold, but there may be some teams willing to take a chance.


1.) 08 Aug 2021 14:57:19
This trade proposal is confusing. The way I am reading it is, the Rangers trade Zib to a team, then trade to get him back.

2.) 08 Aug 2021 19:18:02
If the rangers can keep zib for eichels first year at least, it'll take pressure off the injury recovery. Also I'm not sure strome is a good bet for 2c.



01 Aug 2021 16:56:08
Pittsburgh rebuilds
1. Letang to Montreal for Romanov + Drouin + 2nd in 2022
Montreal fills Weber's spot on the top D pair with a much better player. Pens get replacement D and a pick.
2. Malkin to Washington, Kuznetsov to Rangers, Strome + 2nd in 2022 via Caps and 4th in 2022 via Rangers
We finally get to see Malkin + OV, Rangers get their 1C assuming they are out on Eichel and Pens get a young C and 2 picks.
3. Crosby to Avs for Byram, Newhook, Kadri and 2022 1st
Avs give up a lot, but it would probably take an overpay. They then can play Crosby + Mack on one line and Rantanen + Landi on another- easily two of the best lines. Pens get 2 strong prospects and a pick. They can move Kadri


1.) 01 Aug 2021 17:21:50
Tough to say which one of the 3 are worse.

2.) 01 Aug 2021 17:30:09
@Habby not saying any would happen, just trying to make interesting content :D.

3.) 01 Aug 2021 18:05:38
Ok I’ll just comment on the first for now. Kris kelang could have been had for much less then this especially before free agency. And he is not and never was a much better player then Weber. well maybe now but only cause Weber is injured.

4.) 01 Aug 2021 20:08:59
I got to disagree. 3 cups versus zero, 582 points in 863 versus 589 in 1038, his recent stats are much much better, his +/ - is better as well and he had more hits and blocks last year. Letang would be a massive upgrade over weber.

5.) 01 Aug 2021 22:56:43
You can agree or disagree bud that’s your choice. but you don’t have to waste your time trying to sway my opinion. cause it ain’t going to happen. I’ll chose the eye test every time over random stats.

6.) 02 Aug 2021 00:19:40
Weber and Letang are two completely different players.
Had Weber had guys like Crosby and Malkin, he also would have won a few cups.
A healthy in prime Weber vs a healthy in prime Letang? I'll take Weber all the time. probably not a Dman in last 15 yrs I would take over him, maybe Hedman.

7.) 02 Aug 2021 17:22:06
I don't see solving weber absence with Letang. Different style, and Letang has an injury history probably worse until now.

Is malkin getting strome a 2nd and a 4th? Seems like you can trade him for real value. Calgary would probably give a 1st+ especially. With retention.

Colorado is not going to give up Byram. Crosby with landeskog on his wing could be great.

Malkin to flames for gadreau and a 1st (retain on malkin 2 mil) .

Crosby and Letang to rangers for strome, kappo, georgiev, 2 firsts, and retain on them if needed.

8.) 02 Aug 2021 21:25:58
@Monkeyful Not a chance!

Malkin is 35 years old, declining and UFA in a year.

Calgary would be better off just keeping Johnny and letting him walk in a year than doing that trade!

9.) 03 Aug 2021 11:28:48
Malkin is 35, he’s obviously still really good but I’d rather keep Gaudreau and I’m sure the flames would too….

10.) 03 Aug 2021 11:29:33
Malkin would be like a deadline type deal involving picks and prospects to a contending team.



20 Jul 2021 22:31:27
I'd love for Ottawa to make a side deal with Seattle to acquire Jake Bean. The expansion draft is heavy on strong defensemen.
I'm honestly not sure his value but I'd assume it to be a 20-30 range pick.
Ottawa: Bean
Seattle: 2021 2nd (pick Ridley Grieg (last years 30th OA).


1.) 21 Jul 2021 14:04:27
Probably going to be just a little more than that.

2.) 22 Jul 2021 02:42:32
It's funny how Ottawa fans keep trying to get rid of Grieg while insisting he's a top prospect who's worth a lot. But nobody wants him. Not even Seattle who could have taken him for nothing in the expansion draft.

3.) 22 Jul 2021 11:58:10
Pretty sure he’s like 18 and just drafted so I think he was exempt.

4.) 22 Jul 2021 14:28:41
It’s same way that Calgary fans try to ship Zary for anything. Griegs a good prospect but Ottawa is in a playoffs or bust year and he doesn’t fit that timeline.

5.) 22 Jul 2021 18:07:56
My bad the age exemption slipped my mind.

But you're wrong Calgary fans aren't trying to ship Zary for anything.

Sure I proposed Zary + the 12 OA pick for Sam Reinhart but Reinhart isn't just "anything", he's a 25 year old proven player who fits a very specific need in the top 6 for Calgary.

Reinhart is a right shot RW and better yet he can play center too which opens up a ton of options for mixing up the Flames' top 2 lines.

6.) 22 Jul 2021 20:42:52
It's like Toronto fans including Kerfoot and Engvall in almost any package and claiming how good of a player Kerfoot is.
Even funnier is Seattle ends up selecting a player that the Leafs just spent a prospect and pick on and didn't want Kerfoot.



13 Jul 2021 14:04:22
More Mock Sens trades:
Buf: 10OA, Sharks 2nd, Daccord
Ott: Reinhart (5x6AAV)
Buffalo gets two solid rebuilding picks and a backup goalie to develop.
Ottawa gets a centre/winger who can play on one of the top 2 lines and who is young enough to fit their timeline.

Col: Kadri
Ott: Logan Brown, Ottawa 2022 3rd, Tampa 2022 3rd
I see this as an expansion draft move, Avalanche have a lot of players that will need protection. They trade Kadri for a player they won't need to protect and who could potentially be picked by Seattle. They also get two picks.
Ottawa gets an established 2C/3C who can put up points and lead the youth.


1.) 13 Jul 2021 16:39:59
At tgis point I would think avs are stuck with Kadri.

2.) 13 Jul 2021 18:47:53
Kadri is worth more than that to the Avs, they'll protect him and leave donskoi/ compher unprotected.

3.) 13 Jul 2021 19:09:38
No chance Reinhart signs for less than 6.5-7 AAV.

4.) 13 Jul 2021 18:47:53
Kadri is worth more than that to the Avs, they'll protect him and leave donskoi/ compher unprotected.

5.) 13 Jul 2021 19:09:38
No chance Reinhart signs for less than 6.5-7 AAV.

6.) 13 Jul 2021 19:23:25
@Vertius I figure Reinhart gets 6-6.5 but he might get as much as 7.

7.) 14 Jul 2021 20:55:46
If Buffalo likes Daccord I think they'd do the Reinhart trade. But if they don't like him they probably ask for someone Ottawa really doesn't want to part with. A young top 6 forward.

I can't see Colorado moving Kadri for that.

8.) 14 Jul 2021 21:57:45
Kadri has the tools to be a good playoff performer, but this isn't his first key suspension.

9.) 15 Jul 2021 01:45:17
Here's a line for the playoffs.

Evander Kane - personm Kadri - Matthew Tkachuk.




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19 May 2021 12:25:14
Saw this somewhere but forget where

Who adds?

Bob for Skinner


1.) 19 May 2021 13:28:14
Buffalo adds imo.

2.) 19 May 2021 23:26:50
Florida adds you don’t want to pay a goalie high dollars because unlike a player you can push them down the lineup they’re either playing or not.

Right now Bob is the 3rd string goalie behind Drieger and Knight. Florida definitely adds but Bob definitely doesn’t waive.

3.) 20 May 2021 08:53:22
Bob isn’t that bad, definitely not worth the contract but he’s signed @ 10m for another 5 years while Skinner is signed @ 9m for another 6 years. Bob isn’t the goalie he was in Columbus but he isn’t as bad as Skinner has been.

4.) 20 May 2021 08:58:23
19W | 8L | 2OT | 2.91 GAA | .906 SV% in 31GP
Compared to
7G | 7A | 14Pts | -11 +/ - in 53GP

Bob plays a more important position and is signed for one less year. I’m definitely taking Bob.

5.) 20 May 2021 15:49:37
Like is said Bob is the 3rd string goalie on the panthers. Skinner would be 3rd line. Soon Knight will be a elite starter. Bob will be sitting in press box. It’s not hard to see that Bob is the worst contract in NHL. Almost every team has a starter better then Bob. Skinner would make any roster. If your Florida you take Skinner and run because you take a player that can bounce back and be a 30G scorer over a player who will be sitting in the press box making 10 million.



03 Mar 2021 16:19:24
Out of curiosity, what would be a realistic package for Buffalo to give up to move off the skinner contract.

9M AAV through to 2027.


1.) 04 Mar 2021 03:29:51
Way too much like Cozens and multiple 1sts.

2.) 04 Mar 2021 04:28:55
This could possibly be the worst UFA contract in history. there have been some really bad ones. , but this could potentially be the worst. I don't know how Buffalo gets out of this, I don't think its possible.
Can you guys think of other examples UFA signings that have been this bad.? Maybe the Erickson one is up there , Alzners was bad as well. I like the Lucic one more than Skinner one .

3.) 04 Mar 2021 11:54:54
My thoughts on this is that the adds would have to be significant and more than they would like to give.

So chances are they are better off holding onto it until the term is lower for teams to consider.

The other factor is how many teams who can afford his salary and surround him with the right environment to motivate him.

Buffalo doesn’t seem to be able to motivate him to produce what he’s capable of. So you have to wonder which teams can.

4.) 04 Mar 2021 17:59:14
At this point they need to fire their coach and they need to play skinner with the big boys and try and get him going and maybe you can get rid of him but it’s still going to cost and arm and leg.




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23 Sep 2021 17:04:00
I’d probably rather Bjorkstrand based on recent performance, contract and age, but that 1st is a question mark so if Columbus thinks it could be good then I think they do it.




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15 Sep 2021 03:10:48
Gaudreau is a great player but doesn’t have contract term to convince a team to pay a premium for him.
In my mind, he has slightly more value than Rielly.




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10 Sep 2021 23:18:19
They’re very close in value. So would you sell Valimaki for a 2nd/ 3rd and bottom six player.




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10 Sep 2021 12:21:56
Sorry meant his numbers are similar to Valimaki not Hanifin. Brown is worth at least a 3rd just on potential still.




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08 Sep 2021 02:06:19
More points than Hanifin….





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