30 Nov 2015 19:05:35
Winnipeg trades Trouba, Lowry and a 2nd for Hamonic.
30 Nov 2015 19:12:15
Winnipeg then fires Chevy.
30 Nov 2015 19:46:41
I think Isles add to hamonic, just to get Trouba, albeit a small add.
30 Nov 2015 20:02:52
Trouba is much more valuable then you make him seem in this trade. His value would be very close to Hamonic. A lot of hype with this kid, I don't see them giving him up. He could end up being much better then Hamonic as well. He hits, defends, and has a better offensive game then Hamonic. I'm not saying he'll be the next Weber but the potential is there.
30 Nov 2015 20:45:27
My God. this Hamonic garbage is starting to get out of control. He's a number 3/4 on any playoff team. Trouba is a future top pairing guy and is already better than Hamonic right now anyway. Horrendous proposal as usual by leafs99 yet again.
30 Nov 2015 22:20:21
Stammer
You must not watch much NYI games. Hamonic is quite good would be a 2-3 on most teams.
01 Dec 2015 00:32:04
I'd say Trouba has more value alone then Hamonic.
01 Dec 2015 02:58:36
I'm not saying Hamonic isn't good. But he has been seriously over valued on here lately. Like I said, on any playoff team he's a 3/4
Chicago
Anaheim
Detroit
Tampa
Washington
NYR
SJS
STL
DAL
PIT
BOS
MTL
MIN
OTT
LA
All would have Hamonic playing the 2nd pair at least. He's a good defenseman but not nearly as great as people are making him out to be.
01 Dec 2015 13:40:27
okay stammer i tend to agree with u
but that's a bit of a bull comment
chicago #3 kieth seabrook
Anahiem lindholm/vatanen/hamonic take your pick
Detroit #2 after Kronwall
Tampa #3 after Stralman and Hedman
Was #2 after Carlson
nyr #2 after mcdounagh (maybe staal)
sjs #2 after burns
stl #3 after shatts and pietrangelo
dal #2 after klingberg
pit #2 after letang
bos #1 LOL boston is that bad
mtl #2 after subban
min #2 after suter
ott #2 after karlsson
la #2 after doughty (maybe muzzin is better)
so when u look at it he isn't really a #1 anywhere (other than boston LOL) but i would say he is probably a #2 on most teams and 3 on the best teams
but everyone values him like a #1 and its killing me.
01 Dec 2015 15:46:17
@BigZ
I was taking into consideration that most teams don't play 2 right handed guys on the same pairing, and for that reason, he would be sent down a pairing. (Since he wouldn't be playing over Carlson, Burns, Shatts or Piet, Klingberg, Letang, Subban, Karlsson, or Doughty. ) )
Not to mention I completely forgot about Nashville. He would be a number 5 there easily.
Also, i somewhat agree with your post but not on all of them. NYR has Yandle and Girardi who I would rather play over Ham any day. As much as I hate Boston, I would rather play Z and Krug before him. Brodin is better in MIN, Markov is better in MTL, etc.
Bottom line, Hamonic is being vastly over valued.
01 Dec 2015 18:13:09
he could be playing 2nd pair, sure. but what's a more accurate evaluation is what big z did, the lin you play on is not necessarily indicative of players quality. couple quick examlpes: malkin is no 2c and kane played on the 2nd line a lot in the past when they wanted to split him and toews up if i remember right.