09 Apr 2024 16:15:10
A proposal if Samsonov is resigned.

Detroit Trades
Seider
3rd Round Pick 2025

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
DeWar
Liljegren
Woll
1st Round Pick 2026


Leafs focus on getting a Top 2 younger Defenceman get's them that in a big way, yes it's a lot to give up but worth the price imo.

Red Wings in that still rebuilding mode and yes trading Seider would be something they wouldn't normally do, but getting that package replaces more than what they have currently.


Thoughts ?

09 Apr 2024 16:34:23
In what world does Steve Yzerman do this deal; cause it sure isn't this one.

We don't have the pieces right now to get a top pairing dman let alone one that is still an RFA at only 23 years old.

It's wishful thinking, but if Trev called Stevie Y with this package he would probably laugh at him and ask where the punch line was.

09 Apr 2024 20:35:07
MG69
So a potential #1 Goaltender, a 22 year old that can score some, Liljegren would be third in scoring on Detroit, a young 4th line Centre/ Winger who is good on the PK plus a 1st Rounder isn't enough for one player of Seider's ability and age plus of course a 3rd Rounder?
This site constantly undervalues Leaf Players, why I don't know but many on here do.
I am not just saying this because I see other posts of much lesser players that people over value, so the opposite imo.

09 Apr 2024 23:42:09
I'm a Leafs fan man. This isn't an undervalue, it's reality.


Like you already said, Detroit is rebuilding so why would they trade a player who fits that rebuild timeline and would be a top dman on most NHL teams?

Robertson doesn't even crack their top 9. He's not taking a spot from Debrincat, Perron, or Fabbri on the LW. And he's not taking a spot at centre from Compher or Copp. So he'd be on the 4th line there which as we have seen doesn't work well.

You keep referring to scoring like that's all that matters. Lily isn't consistent on the defensive side of things at all. Has great games and then has games where he's making some awful mistakes in our own zone. Could he still turn into a top 4 dman, maybe. But Detroit has ASP coming down the pipeline who looks to be stud on the backend.

Dewar is exactly what you said a 4th liner who kills penalties well. He's been great for us and I hope he stays a member of the Leafs going forward. But in terms of this trade he doesn't move the needle much at all.

Woll could be a #1 goalie. But since his return he has looked very shaky. Numerous games now that he has let the first shot in. I hope he returns to form and I hope it's on the Leafs. But as of right now, based on his play he doesn't move the needle much either.

As I have stated before our prospect pool is filled with guys hitting that 22-23 age where not a single one has been able to compete for a roster spot. Add another prospect to the pool that we can either develop for ourselves or use down the road as a part of a trade for a bigger fish.

I can appreciate you wanting us to get better sooner rather than later. But other teams are not going to make quantity over quality deals just for our sake.

10 Apr 2024 01:24:46
Too funny.

10 Apr 2024 14:23:16
whoever clicked believable on this is has to be trolling. in no universe does this trade happen or is realistic.

10 Apr 2024 20:27:28
Read the feedback Pinball, your fellow leaf fans think this is unrealistic. Accept the feedback and adjust like anyone else would do.

11 Apr 2024 02:35:18
MG69 nailed it! ? ?.

15 Apr 2024 17:48:44
Before this trade, Detroit has only 1 quality RH defensenan. After, they have 0. No thank you.

19 Apr 2024 15:27:42
Hi Mr. Yzerman, I hope this letter finds you well.

My name is pinball. The Make A Wish foundation has granted me one wish and I'm using it to be GM of the Leafs for one day. My one and only wish is to see the Leafs win 7 playoff games instead of 6, and I think you can help me make this possible.

Would you please trade me your best defenseman Moritz Seider in exchange for 4 RFAs that I don't think can win with our team? If that's not enough, I'll even give you our 2026 1st round pick since I don't think it's worth much to the Leafs.

If you could please help me out I'd really appreciate it.

P. S. I love you.

19 Apr 2024 14:41:17
Seider isn't on the trade block and if you called Yzerman with this offer, he would personally drive up to Toronto just to spit in your face and then drive back to Detroit laughing the whole way.

Get it through your head the league isn't operating with 31 other NHL teams that are here to help Toronto with charity trades because of their own cap situation.

You could offer Marner and a 2026 1st rounder the answer would still be no.

19 Apr 2024 14:55:14
"Hi Steve Yzerman, my name is pinball. The Make A Wish foundation chose me this month because I only have 3 months left to live. My one wish is to see the Leafs win 7 playoff games instead of 6. Would you please trade your best player for 4 RFAs? I'll even give you a 2026 1st rounder because I won't be alive to see who gets drafted anyway. P. S. I love you"

19 Apr 2024 15:27:42
Hi Mr. Yzerman, I hope this letter finds you well.

My name is pinball. The Make A Wish foundation has granted me one wish and I'm using it to be GM of the Leafs for one day. My one and only wish is to see the Leafs win 7 playoff games instead of 6, and I think you can help me make this possible.

Would you please trade me your best defenseman Moritz Seider in exchange for 4 RFAs that I don't think can win with our team? If that's not enough, I'll even give you our 2026 1st round pick since I don't think it's worth much to the Leafs.

If you could please help me out I'd really appreciate it.

P. S. I love you.