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27 Jul 2017 14:38:47
So with the summer pretty much half over, what do fellow Habs fans, as well as others think of Bergevins eventful off season?.. for me, he's made some pretty questionable moves.. ya he signed Price long term, and I do like the Drouin addition, tough to see Sergachev leave the organization though.. but what a mess he has on D....so Beaulieu, Emelin and more than likely Markov are gone.. with what Alzner,Streit and Shlemko as the replacements?? And oh ya we have Joe Morrow now I guess..
Then we lose Radulov.. but.. oh we now have Hemsky.. what a joke...I honestly thought Bergevin was trying to bulid a winner.. but since the PK trade, I think this team is regressing badly.. the prospect pool is weak.. they are far from contenders...
With over 8 million left.. does anyone see what Habs could do to try and at least complete for playoffs.. should they look at bringing Vanek back?? To replace some of Radulov offense.. i'm lost as to what direction this team is going.

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27 Jul 2017 17:31:52
I just read that Markov will definitely not be coming back to the habs this year. We have the slowest defense in the league and has been butchered by MB. Although i like Drouin, he wasn't worth the loss of Sergachev - the only reason he should have been traded was for a Center. I think this team is going downhill fast and has not been gathering pieces for a retool or rebuild. Unless MB has some master plan he has worked out, i don't see this as a positive off-season at all.

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27 Jul 2017 18:59:44
Ya. jus read that as well bout Markov. think its getting to be time to move on from Bergevin. As for Drouin and losing Sergachev. i'm ok with it. of course woulda liked to keeo Sergachev . But ya totally agree we have by far the slowest D in the league. No idea why he traded Beaulieu for a 3rd. Anyway. guess come playoff time, will be joining the Oilers bandwagon again. don't see Habs doing much at that time.

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27 Jul 2017 19:17:46
Lets not forget that terrible trade when we lost ghetto. when he was actually given a chance to play he did a great job! MT and MB just didn't give him enough time and ice and a good pairing.

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28 Jul 2017 04:23:26
If the reports are true about what markov was asking for I'm glad they didn't sign him. He was barely worth that in his prime. i'm actuality more then happy about going into the season with 8 mil in cap space. With regards to andrigetto he was given several chances to prove himself and didn't and beaulieau was traded because of a little thing called the expansion draft. last years team was put out in the 1st round with all those players you mentioned so what's the big deal. Goid riddance to them all I say. P. s this is Hab I forgot my password lol. Didn't wanna be one of those guys who change there name and pretend they are someone else on here lol.

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28 Jul 2017 04:59:57
Ya, Markov is gone. but anyway Hab. ya this team didn't get out of the first round. , the changes they made this year, they aren't even going to get in the first round.

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28 Jul 2017 08:07:51
Looking forward to Hab. trying to defend and make sense of those moves. going to be entertaining.

Drouin was a great acquisition, but they paid a steep price (I hope, haha) . D is really a huge question, Weber is not getting any younger, too (man would it be great to have an elite D just entering his prime, huh? ) . They'll most likely make the playoffs, because Price, but I see another first round exit as best possible outcome. If Price is injured for 20 games or more, they'll be a 20ish team.

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28 Jul 2017 11:23:06
Honestly, the habs d is either too old or too slow. I never thought i'd see the day, especially with Subban as the young-upcomer at one point, and then Serg.

Now they have,

Weber - whos going to slow and become worse (and his cap number is going to become one of the worst contracts in the league)

Alzner - Caps were better with schmidt in the playoffs than with him. He was the seventh dman on that team.

Schlemko - I've ueard good things, but another older dman.

Benn - in the series against the rangers, he looked lost as hell. he's decent, but his playoff showing, to me, was 👎🏻.

Petry - he's alright, but he's older, and his contract is absurd. 5.5 million for the next four years is a hella lot.

Streit - complete shadow of his former self.

Davidson - should be playing, as he'd be one of the only young dmen on the team (assuming Joe Morrow goes to the minors), but will probabky be passed over by Streit/ etc.

Honestly, idk how this teams defense will compete with the speed games of Tampa and Toronto. Price needs to stand on his head every single day.

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28 Jul 2017 12:38:41
Draisitl you did all the work for me they appear to be just as good as last year to me too only difference is they have almost 9 mil in cap space. not hard to justify the moves players were not worth the money they were asking for so they moved on. its pretty simple when you think about it lol.

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28 Jul 2017 14:59:18
Hab. so you think that Streit, Alzner and Shlemko are equal to Markov, Emelin and Beaulieu? . witu the three I jus mentioned, there was already questions about the Habs D. i don't see any upgrade. maybe Alzner over Emelin. I can't see who is going to move the puck out of the back end. Jarabek? I keep forgetting about him, but higly doubtful he comes in and makes an impact. I jus don't see this D being able to stop the speed game like TSS says.,
As good as Price is, he still needs support, i'm actually suprised he resigned looking at what Bergevin did for his support this year.

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28 Jul 2017 19:28:46
As a leaf fan I love what the habs have done with their D lol. Leafs don't have the greatest blue line but proved they can score. Habs goal support for price has always been poor so when their D core is not any better, and arguably worse than last year you need to score a lot more. Drouin coming in is nice but then that move is near moot with radulov walking. Be interesting to see what happens but I assume they take a step backwards.

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27 Jul 2017 02:53:48
Shoot I hit send. Anyway my question is should have Calgary have drafted Nylander over Bennett?

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27 Jul 2017 14:44:55
Well clearly they should have lol Nylander is and will be a much better player Ehlers/ Nylander. At the time no Bennet was hyped to be Marner esc.

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27 Jul 2017 20:59:16
Yeah, Bennett was hyped in his draft year to become a player that is younger than him. You read something new on here every day.

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27 Jul 2017 22:30:34
I still to this day laugh at dumb fuk Doug McLean who said Bennett was WAY better than Driasitl and the Oilers made a mistake there.

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28 Jul 2017 11:23:56
Bennett, Virtanen and DalColle = 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻.

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28 Jul 2017 19:41:49
Nylander looks like he's going to be a Real game breaker and Bennett could be good middle six forward so today I would say yes for sure. But they're still so young. Anything can happen with these kids to change their career path. But I'd rather the risk/ reward of hitting a homerun with Nylander.

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27 Jul 2017 02:51:07
As a lot of Canucks fans are telling me that we should have drafted Nylander over Virtanen. ( I was happy with the Virtanen pick and still hold out hope that he will become the power forward I hoped for when they drafted him) That brought me to all the teams that passed on Nylander. He was picked at #8, so at least a couple teams missed on him. (I still think it's still a bit too early to call players misses yet) This question is mainly for flames fans but I expect a lot of people to chim.

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27 Jul 2017 13:35:14
During a draft its really hard to know who is going to be the better player. Virtanen had a really good Jr career with the Hitmen, and at the time, he may have fit the needs the Canucks were looking for. I still beleive the kid can turn it around. I probably woulda made the same choice back then, however now that I've seen Nylander, I can't beleive he didn't get picked sooner. he's a super talented kid. wouldn't suprise me at all if he is the Leafs point leader, while Mathews is the goals leader.

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28 Jul 2017 06:32:20
I think it might be time to show Bergevin the door.

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26 Jul 2017 21:46:33
Penguins and ducks trade

Ducks trade -Andrew Cogliano

Penguins trade- 2nd,4th or 3rd

Pens lines
Guentzel Crosby Sprong
Hörnqvist malkin kessel
Hagelin cogliano Sheary
Reaves rust Kühnhackl

Letang Dumoulin
Schultz cole
Hunwick Määttä


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27 Jul 2017 14:42:00
Dude Cogliano hasn't played C for a long time, target someone else.

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26 Jul 2017 19:39:31
Will Butcher is becoming an UFA in August. Hobey Baker Defense - does anyone know much about him? He was drafted in 2013 by Col.

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28 Jul 2017 04:32:33
He's small for a typical defenseman but seems to have a strong offensive game. I'd be concerned about him being able to handle the nhl game but I guess he'd be worth taking a chance on.

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25 Jul 2017 18:02:46
Habs sign Streit for 1 year at $700,000
They still have a little over $9M in cap space. I hope they have a plan, because i'm not impressed so far.

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25 Jul 2017 20:42:58
Yeah checked out streits stats he is career -69 in +/ -.

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25 Jul 2017 21:22:17
Good signing I'd say. Didn't know it was that much under $1M. Good for depth.

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26 Jul 2017 00:53:58
Maybe he can replace Beaulieu puck moving ability for a season, deff not his speed. good price at least. but agree with Turkey. not impressed . Hopefully Markov will lower his asking price. but, other than Petry, going to be a pretty slow footed D core .

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26 Jul 2017 17:14:41
That don't impress me much, oh oh oooohhh.

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26 Jul 2017 17:17:19
Colt, only idiots use plus minus (which is a line stat) when talking about a player.

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26 Jul 2017 17:51:36
That would make it an appropriate stat for Tankie to use. Where is the problem?

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26 Jul 2017 14:37:31
You guys are going to make tankie change his name for the hundredth time.

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27 Jul 2017 14:39:12
Let's see here so a stay widely used in hockey is irrelevant. Ok sound but right.

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27 Jul 2017 14:43:27
Lol Touche as usual Shank.

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25 Jul 2017 04:00:06
Revisiting bad trades props of yester year.

As I am a blues fan I can remember a few bad props made to blues. Name your team and worst prop ever posted with your player. Just trying to kill time till season starts.

Mine of course is an edm blues prop. Still makes me laugh to this day.

Edm: RNH 2nd

Blues: Alex pietrangelo 1st

Why edm does this they get their #1 rhd dman

Why blues do this . Blues get future #1 center

This was hilarious :)

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25 Jul 2017 06:46:52
Nice to see you're back, Tankie.

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25 Jul 2017 14:47:09
WHo is tankie?

DO you have a bad trade prop from back in the day?

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25 Jul 2017 16:19:42
"Who is tankie? "
Good one.

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25 Jul 2017 17:59:02
so nobody can remember a bad trade prop.?

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25 Jul 2017 18:56:30
Oh oh, me me. Please pick me. I have one.

Top pair future hall of famer and perennial 60 point scorer Kevin Shattenkirk for Draisaitl + 1st.

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25 Jul 2017 19:36:36
You say who is tankie but you remember this being posted on here? I remember this being posted a year or two ago when tankie was around and TraderBro was never heard of. Weird?

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25 Jul 2017 20:43:51
Seriously who is tankie.

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25 Jul 2017 21:21:36
LOL. Not today nailed it. Too funny.

All the Shattenkirk proposals by Tankie were hilarious. That's for sure.

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26 Jul 2017 00:55:20
Busted Tankie! . Anyway. welcome back.

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26 Jul 2017 17:04:16
Marner for Faulk.

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26 Jul 2017 17:07:06
Not as funny as your Shattenkirk for Puljuarvi trade haha, think there was a Shattenkirk for Svechnikov and Detroit 1st too. Pretty much anything you posted was laughable.

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26 Jul 2017 17:11:01
Is this something you read from this website?
Unfortunately, it's not hard to recall some of the bad trade proposals, just scroll and there will be something.

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26 Jul 2017 17:16:45
Talkie what's going j buddy?

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26 Jul 2017 19:34:43
GoldenShowers drunk on a Wednesday afternoon.

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24 Jul 2017 16:47:31
Sens sign Johnny Oduya to a 1 yr 1M contract.

I love it. Low risk signing.

It does affect Chabots place in the depth chart and chances of making the team out of camp. But a little competition never hurt.

It could even lead to sens trading a defenseman?? I know there was talks about Phaneuf for Gaborik.

Thoughts on the signing?

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25 Jul 2017 13:08:27
With Oduya their LHD are Phaneuf, Claesson, Chabot, Oduya, Boro. The fact that signing bonuses for games played are built into Oduya's contract means I don't think he'll be too high on the depth chart.

Realistically they should put Chabot or Claesson with Karlsson to start the year and see how it goes.

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25 Jul 2017 19:37:27
Great signing. Solid d man and will replace Methot.

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26 Jul 2017 17:08:39
Way rather have Phaneuf over Gaborik even with him costing more and having more term. Atleast Phaneuf is useful.

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23 Jul 2017 01:41:22
Wow. Preds get Arvidsson 7 years for $4.25M per year. 31G 30A
If he keeps that up that will be one of the best contracts in the league.
Surprised he didn't just do a bridge deal then go for $4.5-6M on a long term after.
Great signing by the Preds tho.

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23 Jul 2017 05:37:46
It's my somewhat uninformed observation that the lower picks who do have success in the NHL tend to be more, I don't know how to phrase it exactly, maybe risk averse when it comes to contracts than the top guys who have always been excellent. I bet you that if you had asked Arvidsson the day he was drafted if he'd trade all potential future earnings for the 4.25 mil he's making now, he would have said yes, because most 4th rounders become nothing. On the other hand, first round picks who end up having success at the NHL level have been the best player on their team since they started playing hockey and know nothing other than success, which leads them to be more confident in them being able to continue performing at a high level.

Just an observation and a possible reason for it, I'm sure there are some outliers on either end.

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23 Jul 2017 07:56:54
Great observation Shankar, have been thinking the same for a while. Totally agree.

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23 Jul 2017 12:26:36
its pretty high risk to sign a guy who had one good season and playoffs. he could end up living up to the contract, he could be the next victor stalberg.

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23 Jul 2017 17:57:02
Seems to be the way now though. The good part about a deal like this is that theydrafted him and have known him for a while. They have seen how much harder he had to work than the guys picked ahead of him to get where he is and that's probably comforting. I'm sure they feel he will keep working hard to get his game back if the numbers slip because he's always going to be a guy trying to prove something. I don't know if he will be able to keep 30 goal pace, but the good thing about a 4.25 cap hit is that if he's a 20 goal, 30 assist player, it's still money well spent.

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23 Jul 2017 21:23:59
Agree Ovie, It's definitely risky for Nashville, especially with them not having the most financial flexibility. But it is definitely the most conservative route Arvidsson could have taken save for getting another year added on to reach the max.

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24 Jul 2017 22:27:49
oh for him its great, he's laughing. for the teams sake i hope he keeps up his pace, playing with ryjo and forsberg helps his numbers, but he plays all situations and took the long road, i wish him well.

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22 Jul 2017 15:41:32
Call me sentimental but I'd like to see what Cody Franson could do under Babcock with a defined role a descent third pairing or seventh defenceman even a good addition to the Marlies but signing him for under a million with the talent I think he has would be a win win. Obviously not a game breaking deal for the leafs and would have to wait til the leafs sort out their cap and roster situation but I'd like to think he could steal a job with the leafs play impactful minutes and Babcock and the coaching staff could help him with consistency. Anyway thoughts on this?

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22 Jul 2017 20:38:28
I honestly think he would be their 4th best defencem.

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22 Jul 2017 23:41:20

If he plays like he did in Buffalo, no.
If he plays like he did when he was in Toronto, hell yeah.

I honestly think he might be able to play like he did before in Toronto if we give him a shot. he's played his best hockey in TO anyway.

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23 Jul 2017 18:01:06
If the cost to acquire a legit top 4 RHD remains what it is, why not? Rather than give away a ton of assets to get a little better D, sign him for 1 year 1.5-2mill. Then have rielly, franson and gardiner Zaitsev. Not going to scare any other teams away, but it's a very cheap and low risk option.

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