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Cell phone only version of this site: http://mobile.nhl-trade-rumors.com 23 Feb 2012 00:20:46
All of sudden nobody
wants jvr?
What happened to all the
rumors about him being a
t.m.l?
22 Feb 2012 23:59:57
Tuesday's Newspaper headline :
Leafs do NOTHING!!!!
Burke in his 1 hour conference at 4pm :
nothing made sense for us to do
This would be a great line
Lupul Carter Kessel iwould love to watch that line
22 Feb 2012 21:51:26
antoine vermette Traded to phoenix
22 Feb 2012 21:01:34
Some simple math for all leaf fans:
Steve Mason>The Monster
Steve Mason= Reimer
If the leafs trade a package 2 columbus for carter that includes gusstofson and mason comes back the other way, that could be as big a steal as the phenuf trade Phenauf was't a steal of a trade. Get a grip you did Calgary a favor!! It was only a steal in the minds of Toronto fans
22 Feb 2012 20:47:37
Tuomo Ruutu on a four-year contract extension worth $19 million.
22 Feb 2012 20:21:29
Believable or Unbelievable?
Cory Schneider will be traded
22 Feb 2012 20:12:44
Edmonton: Josh Nicholls
Toronto: Nik Khabibulin
PLEASE BRIAN MAKE A CALL!!!
22 Feb 2012 19:02:17
Leafs need;
a) A Good Goalie
b) Top 6 Big Centre
c) Big Sized Scoring Depth
So whose available;
a) Nabokov, Bernier, Harding, and Khabibulin
b) Carter, Pavelski, and Getzlaf
C) Wheeler, Brown, Umberger, and Ruutu
Unlikely to be moved;
Nabokov, Pavelski, Getzlaf, and Brown.
Which leaves;
a) Bernier, Harding, and Khabibulin
b) Carter
C) Wheeler, Umberger, and Ruutu
My opinion is to get Bernier, Carter and Wheeler. Sounds great - what assets are you going to use....oh crap nothing that will get these done....
Nik Khabibulin could be done.
Carter - no way
maybe - not sure if any of these can happen.
Goaltending alone would be a hugh upgrade.
22 Feb 2012 15:07:43
Carter will get traded! either to the Kings or Leafs the Leafs could offer:
Leafs Trade: Connally, gustavsson 2nd pick and a conditional 3rd pick if the leafs make the playoffs
Columbus trades: Jeff Carter
Or the Kings Could:
Kings Trade: Jonathan Bernier
Columbus Trade: Jeff Carter, Steve Masonn 2nd rounder
I would say it is more likely for carter to get traded to the leafs because LA would rather get Nash.
The Leafs are not getting nash because columbus' GM has required gardiner as a must in a pachage for nash and there is no way the leafs r letting go of gardiner
22 Feb 2012 14:51:22
Leafs goalie situation will be addressed this before the deadline.. Burke knows it has reached 911 emergency status
@incarceratedbob
tweeted last night, although it has little bearing in the real world, it is still a rumor, and one that I believe to be true. The question is whether or not Burke wants to make a splash now, or in the offseason. At the right price, I could see him making a move for a goalie.
Maybe something along the lines of moving a prospect, pick and a roster player depending on who is the target. Looking at the effort of the guys last night, I feel the most important area is goaltending and potentially some size up front on the top 6 couldn't hurt (both of which have been regurgitated many times on this site). If they can acquire a guy like Nash at a reasonable price, while shedding some salary, I think it would be a smart move all around. However, I don't feel that is a real possibility unfortunately. Howsen would be wise to wait until the offseason to move his franchise player unless the price is too good to turn down.
A couple of thoughts however:
To TO: Bernier
To LA: Macarthur, Mckegg, 2012 2nd
To TO: Nash, 7th pick 2012
To CBJ: Reimer, Schenn, Kadri, Blacker, 2012 1st
Resign Grabovski.
Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
Kulemin-Grabo-Nash
Connolly-Lombardi-Crabb
Brown-Steckel-Boyce
Phaneuf-Gunnarsson
Liles-Franson
Gardiner-Komisarek
Aulie
Bernier
Gustavsson
Prospect forwards still in the minors:
Frattin, Colborne, Ross, Biggs etc.. Still some pretty decent depth with a lot of young roster players still.
I Love Haters vvv A couple of thoughts on your thoughts.
LA could put a better deal together with Bernier to get Nash themselves.
Nash would be the best player on the Leafs. Why would he be on the second line? Lupol and kessel and bozak have good chemistry
Nash adds an elite scoring threat to the second line, hard to match up against
Simple really
22 Feb 2012 14:43:51
LA: Grabovski,Kulemin,Crabb (1st round pick if Grabo doesn't resign).
Toronto: Richards,Bernier
This is a fair deal.
LA gets a very good 2nd line center to replace Richards (who is having an off year at $6mil/per)
LA has wanted Kulemin for a while, now they get to pair him with the center he has played with all year.
Both Grabovski and Kulemin are two way forwards so they will fit right into Sutter's system.
It doesn't matter if Grabo is a UFA, he will sign a $5mil/4year deal saving LA $1mil on Richards.
Toronto gets a goalie LA isn't even using with Quick as the clear no. 1
They get a center for Kessel in Richards who is having a slow year.
LA lines:
Brown Kopitar Williams
Loktionov Grabovski Kulemin
Toronto:
Lupul Richards Kessel
MacArthur Bozak (need a physical winger)
Don't care if you bash or hate...it is a fair deal that solves both teams problems right now and later. So the leafs now have a depleted 2nd line!! i say no! The leafs have a depleted 4 lines
22 Feb 2012 14:37:24
I hate the Leafs also (Hawks Fan)....but seriously, everyone is obsessed with bashing them and their fan base. In my opinion, that makes them right. You all look to be consumed with them, that's probably why they claim to be the center of the hockey world, and frankly, they are right. Every post has at least one Leafs bash. STOP doing it! You are making them right!
22 Feb 2012 14:35:46
what a bad game for the monster, 3 bad goals he should have had.he always lets in a bad goal a game.we need a goalie asap and a top forward ,i also think ott would be a great fit here too
22 Feb 2012 14:31:10
who do you think will replace canadien's gm pierre gauthier after this season?
here is what i would do,
gm:serge savard
head coach:dennis savard or guy carbonneau
22 Feb 2012 11:31:44
fire ron wilson
22 Feb 2012 05:31:59
Gomez for any teams 7th round pick? If the habs get rid of gomez would be via minors... Habs would have to give up something valuable to get gomez off their hands.. As a strong hockey market, they will be able to afford taking the blow of his contract on the minors...
22 Feb 2012 04:06:01
This is for the guy that said he is a redwings fan. I posted the trade that happened with redwings and lightnings and he said that Quincy for a 1st will never happen. Guess what redwings fan your not so bright so before you start bashing on people for no reason please know the facts before you comment
22 Feb 2012 03:37:25
Omg kill me now can't even stop shots that are going wide....we haven't had a money goalie since the Eagle
Burkie the word of the day is "priority"
22 Feb 2012 03:37:03
Before the trade talk begins on Gustavsson after tonights game, lets all remember that he was the one that kept us in contention through out Reimers injury and the one that moved us up the standings after Reimers terrible performance in December with his 7-3-1 January. Ya he played awful tonight. But he also played awesome in relief for Reimer over the last 3 games. He was also hung out to dry on goal 1 and 3. Wilson needs to stick to one goalie so they can build a rhythm. and I think that should be Gustavsson.
22 Feb 2012 03:04:38
Trades that Toronto will make before the deadline.
To TO: picks-up "0" or nothing that will impact the teams chances of making the play-offs
Prediction: Toronto will fall short of making the play-offs again. (10 place finish). Another prediction: Brian Burke will throw his clip board against the wall many more times before the season ends.
22 Feb 2012 02:48:25
To the LEAFS a GOALIE who doesnt let in the worst goal ive ever seen. WHY JONAS WHY do you play so good and THEN do that STUFF what is wrong with YOU
22 Feb 2012 02:43:17
All theses Toronto trades would be great I would love to have Nash but none of this helps are goaltending and after the last few games is looking what we need
22 Feb 2012 02:25:37
If the leafs loose this game, it will be like the straw that broke there back!! Burke will have seen enough! IMO bb will start the trading.
Long time leaf fan!!
22 Feb 2012 01:44:06
I just heard from a good source. My source is the cousin of the husband who is married to the cleaning lady of the Burke residence. Here it is:
To CBJ
Phanuef, Gunnerson, Steckel, Kadri, Colborne, Grabovski, Kulemin, MacCarthur, Lombardi, Bozak, 1st in 2012, 1st in 2013, 2nd in 2013, Kessels jock strap and a signed Luke Schenn stick.
To Toronto:
Nash, Carter, 1st in 2013, 2nd in 2018, a bag of pucks, the popcorn vendor on the third level and a lifetime parking pass for one car.
Good deal and a very reliable source.
Stupid eh....but not as bad as some of these other stupid trades listed here. Ever thought not all the dumb postings are from leaf fans!! i agree they are horrible offers, but i bet many are posted by people looking for the reaction you are giving and they are not all leaf fans. I have also seen some "vancouver fans" or "habs fans" or "oiler fans making some pretty crappy offers as well.
people like you just fuel the fire and make it worse by making comments like that!
21 Feb 2012 23:46:26
Everyone, Chicago is not trading Mark McNeill, they just drafted him. Why would they trade him when they have barley seen what he can do.
21 Feb 2012 23:24:42
The leafs really need new staff and management. Before they even focus on the players, get a new gm and some coaches. Ron wilson is a terrible coach. Brian Burke does not belong in Toronto. Toronto should be an amazing place to play and where everyone wants to go. They have no heart and its where you go to finish your career.
Burke is making them the american dream team. He gets terrible players with huge contracts. Once Burke and Wilson and the coaches are gone then they might find some sucess.
Its going to be awile before the leafs are good. My brother plays in the NHL and there's lots of rumors going around the NHL that players don't want to play in Toronto because of BB. The rest is good just the one issue. He says there will be no big name going to toronto this year.
He says they are just what he has heard. It is not because of BB it is Ron Wilson. Too many american players there maybe rifts in the dressing room. I think BB went to far with his personal agenda. Again, a bunch of people commenting who dont have a clue!! how can anyone say BB has not improved this team!! oh wait when they win 3 in a gain the wagon will get heavier again. i am a hab fan and i can see BB is improving this team. if you dont want him send him my way and we can get rid of gauthier!!
21 Feb 2012 22:21:20
In a pre-trade deadline flurry of activity Tuesday afternoon, defenseman Kyle Quincey was traded from the Colorado Avalanche to the Tampa Bay Lightning for forward Steve Downie, then promptly moved on to the Detroit Red Wings for minor-league defenseman Sebastien Piche a first-round pick in the 2012 NHL Draft.
The 26-year-old Quincey had 5 goals and 23 points in 54 games with the Avalanche this season.
The 24-year-old Downie had 12 goals and 28 points in 55 games with the Lightning.
21 Feb 2012 22:19:55
as a die hard leafs fan i would really love nash to come to toronto but sadly i can't see it happening. howson will ask the moon for nash and to give the moon for nash is not worth it. i assume everyone heard that burke had an unschedule breakfast meaning with howson. i believe burke is more interested in getting carter and it make sense. the leafs wont need to give up too much for carter, and has a reasonable cap hit although its a very bad contract.
jeff carter could be a good fit in toronto because he plays that center position that we need. although carter is a right handed shoot first center a line of lupul carter and kessel in away is similar to sedin sedin burrows. the first line in vancouver all plays right handed and they are in away shoot first type of players. also i beleive carter can find great chemistry between lupul and kessel because carter did play with lupul in philly and helped him get 28 goals.
although i love this team so much i believe burke has to pull a trade to salvage this season and carter could be a solution. i hope burke gets carter for a reasonable price.
-Realistic Leafs Fan Henrik sedin is not a shoot 1st player actually he is quite the opposite If you were a realistic leaf fan a big trade to salvage the season does not need to be made!! it frustrates me hearing all these "leaf fans" saying sell the farm for nash. stay the course make minor deals and keep drafting well. isnt that how detroit does it!!! A kyle quincey trade is not a minor trade dude. you don't really think the leafs need to salvage their season? the leafs are too inconsistent now and may be a trade could spark the team. i really think the leafs should make the playoffs this year to test what this leafs are actually made of. now i never said pull a big trade but any trade necessary.
-Realistic Leafs Fan
21 Feb 2012 21:33:34
Det- Quincey
TB- 1st
21 Feb 2012 21:21:31
Steve Downie to col and Kyle Quincey to tb according to@TSNBobMcKenzie And quincey was then traded to det for 1st rd pick
21 Feb 2012 21:03:41
Steve Downie has been Dealt to The Avalanche.... Details to come
You heard it here first ;)
21 Feb 2012 19:36:46
How do people in their right mind believe that Gardiner is so great and Schenn stinks.
Every other post about Schenn says he turns the puck over to much. Gardiner turns the puck over more than Schenn and gets caught out of position more. Both are the future of the Leafs blueline and would set us back if they were moved.
Liles and Gunnarsson should be moved as they have great value, when healthy. When Komi is dumped, Phaneuf will be the veteran dman at 26. That's a blueline that can stay together for 5 years and gel into the best unit in the NHL
21 Feb 2012 19:24:06
Joe Colborne is going to develop into exactly the type of player that everyone wants the Leafs to trade for. We don't need to trade the whole farm for 1 new guy in the stable. We just have be patient for a little while longer, no need to wreck our process to add 1 or 2 guys and lose 5+ players and picks. YIPPEE!! finally some one who speaks like a "realistic leaf fan"
21 Feb 2012 18:14:38
to leaf fans ...eventhough your prospect poolis the best its been in 20 years its still not that great only 2 players appear to be progressing [colbourne,gardiner]the rest have taken a step back[kadri,aulie etc your 2 minor league goalies are 25 and 26 years old and are proberly career ahlers they defianately dont have any trade value right now even your younger players such as kulemin schenn gunnersson reimer crabb and fratin have either gotten worse or have peaked out of 30 nhl teams i rate your prospects at about 24th
21 Feb 2012 16:26:24
fire ron wilson and all will be fine....
21 Feb 2012 15:51:46
I am sick of seeing everyone typing SOURCES!
I played 5 years pro (not NHL...Germany), I played in the O, have had 2 agents (both rep current NHL players), have half a dozen buddies still playing (NHL) AND I DONT HAVE A SOURCE ON TRADES! NOBODY HERE DOES!
I read this site for entertainment only. I love puck. It was and is my life blood. I dont work now (retired) so I flip around on nhl type sites to fill my day up when needed. STOP trying to sound impressive, or like a detective by saying..."i dont beleive you...whats your source." Give it up man!
with that, I think that Burkie should give a run at prying M.Richards out from LA (not a gm so just basic statement( for some depth scoring. They need to clear up some space, as I beleive they will land Nasher (best assets).
I also think Burkie can run at Carter (reunite). Again, huge contract, he can squeeze them for dmen and prospects.
#21 Ya and I played in Kazakhstan
21 Feb 2012 15:25:30
Look for Burke to make a move out of left field... Everyone's eyes are on Carter and Nash, but Burke will surprise by landing a E.Stall, Getzlaf, Ryan etc...
I also think Laich might be in Burkes crosshairs as a supplementary big bodied center. TVA MTL reports BB might be interested in Moen.
21 feb 2012 15:07:50
fire ron wilson,even if we make the playoffs its time for a change in coaching
21 Feb 2012 03:31:07
Is it possible that LA is trying to drive the price up on Nash to "lower" the price on Carter??
I think Burke's selling feature is, at this point, he will take Mason and his salary, where LA won't... But Bernier is going to end up in CBJ, I really believe that, and Carter goes to LA back with Richards, which is a much better fit than Nash in LA... Philly and NYR have both said they are out of the "race", and Nash wants TO.... As long as Kessel and Gardiner stay, I say go for it!
21 Feb 2012 03:13:46
love how everybody is overpaying for nash....
i think nash doesnt get traded until off season.........carter to la for sure
21 Feb 2012 02:58:26
Washington try to trade both 2012 1st rounders for anyone with a heartbeat and sense of urgency
21 Feb 2012 02:23:36
Ok Leaf fans what would you rather have:
Nash and lose Gardiner + a whole bunch more.
Or Carter who could be had cheaper and Ryan.
Send Grabovski and a package for Ryan.
Anaheim is going to need a center behind Getlaf badly.
Send Schenn and a package to Columbus for Carter.
Its not any more than trading for Nash.
Now your team is:
Lupul Carter Kessel
Ryan Bozak Kulemin
MacArthur Lombardi Frattin
Brown Steckle Armstrong
I dumped Connolly in the Carter deal and Komisarek in the Ryan deal. What kind of package? Neither of those teams want salary back! No deal.
21 Feb 2012 01:35:49
howson is nuts does he think he will get whats he is asking for for Nash look at what boston got for Thornton Nash is good but not worth more then Thornton
21 Feb 2012 01:21:37
I'd hate to even suggest this but maybe just maybe Scott Gomez might be the right fit between Lupul n Kessel cause he is a pass first type of centre..just the 7+ per year doesnt really work. Wonder if there's a way to work something out with habs? Thoughts? Be gentle.. FAIL!! And it has nothing to do with his lack of scoring.
21 Feb 2012 00:56:06
Mark my words, Gardiner is going to be one of the best d man in the league in a few years, no way he's getting traded P.K. SUBBAN, RYAN ELLIS, DOUGIE HAMILTON, JARED TINORDI, RYAN MCDONAGH, CAM FOWLER, JARED COWEN, remember those names. By the way Seguin, Hamilton > Kessel, ANY DAY.
21 Feb 2012 00:05:41
Surprised Leaf fans don't want Clemmensen from Florida, I think he would be inexpensive and they could see how he does till the end of the season and resign him if he plays well. Could probably get him for a 2nd Simply noooooooooooooooooo
20 Feb 2012 23:35:58
I definitely think the leafs should pick up j carter even with 10yrs left on his cony.. Mlse can afford it plus the last few yrs are cheap. If we gamble n get lucky this guy might just pick up his game n return to be the player he once was. Do it BB make it happen, take a shot!
With all the trades Burke has done since coming to Toronto (most of them great) he would be setting the leafs back at least two years if he was to trade Gardner and Franson. I know you need to trade good players to get good players but as was posted here before I agree the best thing Burke can do is to trade off Armstrong,connolly,Lombardi,komisarek( I know ntc) and possibly bozak. For prospects and or high draft picks, let some kids come up and finish the year. Burke has done a fantastic job, if Gardner or Franson are traded I will be off the bandwagon. That threat should scare Burke enough.
20 Feb 2012 15:00:27
well leafs now its time to play some hockey we need to start winning or winnipeg or washington is gonna take r spot Why would the Leafs want to start winning, They would rather hit the links than play some hockey.
20 Feb 2012 03:49:57
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins looks A LOT like Taylor Swift
20 Feb 2012 04:28:26
If I'm the GM in Columbus the 1st 2 playersI want from the Leafs are Gardiner and Kadri after that Franson and a 1st and I might let Tor flog a cap waster on me and then we would be able to talk about Nash. Anything else and I would tell Burke he is not allowed to say Rick's name in any conversation with Columbus. Leaf fans look what Dallas gave Calgary for Nieuwendyk"s service. An extremely good prospect in Jarome Iginla Burke will NOT trade gardiner, he is untouchable right now
Eggo
20 Feb 2012 03:51:54
Getslaf vs Nash Problem is that GM's are giving way to much money for players . Scared to loose them . Gomez I'd buy out , Penner ,Buy out , Jersy has done it , pitts has done it was, has . To keep a good player you need to pay .
19 Feb 2012 23:18:06
i keep seeing this guys come up in trades. and they are not getting trade.
Rask- tim tomas is going to retire in 2 years, he is 37. rask his there future . know's the system. bruins are not trading him.
Gardiner- he is untouchable. i see some nick lidstrom in him, he is calm with the puck and doesnt get rattled he is gonna be a very good player. I also see a young neidermeyer in him as well
19 Feb 2012 21:33:34
Montreal made a trade because they already believe they aren't going anywhere this season. Toronto will make a trade because they want everyone to believe that they are going somewhere.
If Toronto wants Nash from the Blue Jackets, it has been said that Jake Gardiner will have to be part of the deal. I hope they keep this guy in Leaf land and try to rid themselves of Schenn instead. Crazy leaf fan, BB is not all there for the canadian leaf fans but he would not be crazy enough to trade young dmen but wait he signed liles to an extension, oh wilson too!
19 Feb 2012 20:46:01
Tor should NOT trade for Jeff Carter as he is useless. If thats the case he would fit right in with the leafs
19 Feb 2012 17:35:59
I love the panic in Toronto this time of year. Willing to trade anyone and everyone just to shut up their fans. Hilarious. If you are committed to a rebuild then do it. You'll suck regardless. Toronto is the city of basement dwellers. Get used to it. The raptors suck. The Argos suck. And we all know about the Leafs futility. Its brutal when the soccer team is your best sports franchise. Good game last night boys. Keep up the good work. Toronto fans are not willing to trade anyone and everyone - some things are needed to be done to correct the mistakes of current management.
BB seems to make signings based on spite not logic. Connolly?? Liles?????????????????????????????
Ron Wilson??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
All the american players????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
He is just try to assemble the american dream team and is really in the wrong market for that...
His team of Assistants, what a joke........
Can they even suggest that what BB is doing is dumb?
Trade enough to get through this season and maybe (a little hope) make the playoffs. The players should only have practises without coaches present..
Do not trade any of the current d-men except Komi and Liles.
Trade Kadri and some of the mistakes Armi,komi,Connolly,Liles...Maybe Grabs..One of the goalies (monster make sense) and get a vet goalie or a bag of pucks..
19 Feb 2012 17:12:50
Toronto should trade for Gigy....lol
19 Feb 2012 01:38:48
The leafs and their lady parts:
Starts from the GM and the coaches, BB is worse then Fergie was and wilson has to be worst in leaf history.
Then the players:
No compete in them, tough guys who are not.
No way are they getting into the playoffs....
Fire BB and get rid of the american players and that hopeless coaching staff.
Go montreal.....ottawa
Bud fan that has given up on the team.
Only 2 americans on the team.
Trade:
komi
Lomi
Brown
Armi
Grabo
Kuli
kessel
Connolly
Mac
Frattin
Monster
Boyse
steks
liles not possible stupid contract
For lots of candian prospects that are big and can skate. You are an person not a buds fan!! go cheer for someone else donkey! if you dont realize the leafs are improving then you dont deserve to comment!! keep burkie, cuz as a long time leaf fan this is the 1st time since i can remember that we have hope for the future. Sensorship from close minds.......
BB can redeem himself by not doing these stupid signings..
Komi-Connolly-Liles = crazy
The Armstrong thing is over send him down...or get a 5th rounder.
The same for Komi 4th or 5th.
And you a mindless leaf fanatic...march on oh brain washed one.....
Wilson and BB are not good for the leafs, just like mindless followers like you.....
Trade for a goalie and dump the monster.
I would recommend Halak...
Trade for some toughness on the wings and get rid of Liles and get someone that stands up for the weak players on the team.
Connolly been a JOKE all season, but he may be ok next year.
Trade for Shawn Thorton type players for the third and fourth lines. Chris Neil maybe a good type but you won't get this guy from Ott.
If you can not sign Grabo buy Monday Trade him.......
All you mindless fans want to trade Luke Schenn away crazy..I that happens then I truly will not watch another leaf game until BB and Wilson are gone...I have bought any leaf junk since Wilson came on the scene..
You crazy leaf fans think your stinking players are good but in reality no other team wants them...
There are good players on this team...
Lupul, Kessel, Schenn, Dion, Aulie, Gardiner, Bozak, Kadri, Mac, Kuli, Grabo, Riemer, Brown, Lomi, Gunner, but you need to give gold to get gold....
So you crazy leaf fans here is a reality check... The leafs may not make the playoffs... The do not go to the net. They do not stick up for each other. They do not come back to pick up their checks, they do not get back to position so Luke Schenn can pass the puck up safely.
So do not blame Schenn, or some of the other D-men. Blame the coaching staff, this is all coaching just as any of the older players....So if the leafs have suffered bad coaching for these years the GM should be fired....
Trade for a vet goalie even if they are a one year rental...
trade for a scorer (PP expert)..
Trade for some size with skating ability..
If you can get a top six centre fine if not in the off season, if this is not done then the off season will be very long again.
So BB if you have any care for the leafs consider what takes on the ice and remove the coach. If everything is so easy for you then why dont you be the GM? theres a reason why vancouver is where theyre at now and also why the ducks won the cup in 06..
Eggo Yeah the reason is another GM built the team and Burke tweak it and won..With alot of canadian players not americans..........
eat your ego eggo......
19 Feb 2012 01:37:47
For the love of god BB just trade for a keeper this has failed you need a keeper now and a big centre swallow your pride get rid of connolly and gussy or reimer seriously this display is horiffic I totally agree when you watch connolly glide around.. I bet you were 1 of the guys talking about how great reimer was last year and now he sucks. DAMN FLY BY NIGHT FANS!! If you think the leafs are worse now than 2 or 3 years ago give yur head a shake!!
19 Feb 2012 01:26:22
Imagine these lineups:
Mtl:
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole
Bourque-Plekanec-Pominville
Kunitz-Eller-Penner
Blunden-White-Nokelainen
Subban-Gorges
Carle-Diaz
Kaberle-Emelin
Price
Budaj
Lak:
Williams-Kopitar-Hemsky
Carter-Richards-Gagne
Richardson-Stoll-Brown
Hunter-Lewis-Fraser
Doughty-Johnson
Mitchell-Greene
Martinez-Scuderi
Quick
Schneider
Tor:
Lupul-Kessel-Nash
MacArthur-Grabovski-Kulemin
Gionta-Lombardi-Armstrong
Brown-Bozak-Kadri
Phaneuf-Liles
Franson-Schenn
Tyutin-Komisarek
Reimer
Berneir
18 Feb 2012 19:30:44
I Can see even a 4 way deal going on between Los Angeles, Toronto, Columbus and Tampa. After watching the first 2 periods the leafs and Vancouver... hopefully we can give connolly, lombardi and armstrong away.
18 Feb 2012 16:04:21
pierre gauthiers last 2 moves have been pretty good he saves 3mil in the bourque deal and gets back a player of equal value and yesterday he gets a 2nd and two prospects for hall gill if he makes a couple more of these by the deadline he will proberly be back next season and with any luck pierre mcguire will not
18 Feb 2012 15:26:59
I don't understand how Grabs is getting the short end for the stick with BB, guys like Connolly and Komos are making 5mill a season and there half the player Grabs is. Sign Grabs and try and trade Connolly and Komos for picks or put them in a trade package, I not saying put them in the same package but there has to a way to got ride of those salarys with out sending them to the minors.
Now to Rick Nash I love to see him in the Blue and white but a what cost, if it means giving up all are young talent then didn't make the trade, But if they land Nash with out giving up all are young talent than go for it. If Connolly,Mac,Schenn,Kadri a goalie and 1st can't land Nash then don't bother.
I know leafs are going to hate me for what I going to say but I hope the leafs don't make the playoffs just so Wilson can get fire, Wilson is the true reason why the leafs are so up and down this years. He doesn't have the ability to get the best out of his players, Wilson reminds me of that high school guidance counsillor that makes you feel that your a failure at everything you do, case and point Luke Schenn. This players are young and need guidance. I can go on all day with this but at the end of the day BB is the GM and Wilson is the coach.
Fan4life Watch the game tonight, if they come out slow i bet they come out in the second with a fire under their asses, ive noticed this plenty of times, more amd more i feel he actually gets through to the players
18 Feb 2012 14:23:20
Ring Ring..........
Hello Howson its Burke , I want Nash
Hi Brian well lets start with Gardiner and.... Hello Hello well I guess he was trying to please Leaf fans by saying he tried to get a big power forward. I guess we'll have to go back to the other offers where they were willing to give us top prospects for a proven player
18 Feb 2012 02:53:35
I really hope the leafs get Rick Nash. This guy is great, he is perenial all star calibre player and he brings so much to a team. He has size, a physical game, he plays with heart and he scores. He is a leader, and would bring that energy and passion that the leafs havent had in a long time. He would make everyone better on the leafs and a certain playoff team.
What do you think? Whats a fair offer?
18 Feb 2012 03:20:20
to toronto: scott gomez
to montreal. connely armstrong komisarek and lombardi....
habs do this because they get lombardi who is from montreal and speaks french..... Habs do not do this because its better to have 1 bad contract instead of 4 keep dreamin leaf fans your stuck with these guys Beautiful thing is all those leafs contracts have 1 year remaining!! good luck with that gomez contract 7.4 for 2 more years!!! ouch
18 Feb 2012 02:37:23
This is my honest judgement for the Maple Leafs. I for one am a Flyer fan first and Leaf fan second. Ride out the rest of the season with what they have. Hopefully they miss the playoffs this year, Wilson gets the leftover waffles (ie: fired) and have Eakins take over. Try to find new homes for Komisarek, Connolly, Lombardi and Armstrong. Try trading them for draft picks for this upcoming draft year. Apparently it is supposed to be deep. Have some of the Marlies fill in their roles under Eakins (chemistry). If anything this year, I think the Leafs should make a push for a goaltender. Schneider seems to me to be what they are exactly looking for. Bernier in all honestry has yet to prove anything except that he can feed Penner pancakes all day long. Schneider is hungry for a starting role and with Luongo's ludicrous contract, he may get his wish on another team. The Leafs should trade Gunnarson, Kadri and Gustavsson to Vancouver for Schneider, Hansen and Ballard. I don't know how the salary looks as I didn't do my research, but I think that this is pretty fair add in a draft here or there. I can take criticism so lay it on me. Cheers!
Grant
18 Feb 2012 02:15:35
im a big leafs fan but stop with the philly rumors
schenn will not go to there not because burke wont trade him its because philly thinks hes overrated
18 Feb 2012 01:49:39
scott gomez just scored!
MTL: scott gomez
PIT: sidney crosby, evgeni malkin, jordan staal, kris letang, james neal, 1st round 2012, 1st round 2013, joe morrow
LMFAO
for the stupid people this is obvs. jokes Sounds like a trade leaf fans would try to make if they had gomez Take crosby out of the deal and montreal would proberly do this
18 Feb 2012 00:19:37
Ottawa Sens should get NASH!!! Why should Nash be punished?
17 Feb 2012 22:12:36
Connoly doesn't really have that bad of stats, pretty .5 ppg. he is just the laziest ****** and you can tell, she(lol) barely skates yet is a plus player. But I still think you could dish him in a deal with something attractive. And let's face it Kadri doesn't fit into the mix. And i think his value is higher then most think. So my trade proposition is this:
Cindy Connoly , Nazem CoCky , Clarke MacCarthur, Holzer and a 1st round pick 2nd round pick for basically the best available big Name
NASH or Carter 2013 1st, Staal Jordan or Eric, or Statsny.
if those aren't the names coming back then burke is patient with what has worked at times tremondously this season
As for komi he plays when someone is hurt and is still solid...armstrong is known to be the funniest character on the team and will fit wherever u want him too and in respects to goaltending who would have thought giguere would get hot in the playoffs for anaheim when he did who would have thought halak would get hot or archurs urbe (however u spell)...its not the luongos or howards who get hot..it's kids like reimer and gusty who have 5 shut outs in the past month and a bit. So they lost to montreal the team didnt show up and the defense didnt show up against the flames..and also when thomas lost 4-0 a couple weeks ago to carolina i believe they weren't trading him away! EVERYONE CHILL
17 Feb 2012 20:11:45
So the Predators just grossly over paid for Hal Gill...
17 Feb 2012 20:08:09
Gill vs Goeffrion
17 Feb 2012 19:20:35
Just heard on the radio, Canucks have beat the leafs 9 games in a row, time to make it 10 on Saturday.
My Prediction 6-0 Vancouver. Wow, I was pretty damn close.
17 Feb 2012 18:32:33
If Brian Burke is gonna trade for Rick Nash, Leaf Fans have understand that it is gonna cost a lot.
Jake Gardiner will almost have to be included. Or Cody Franson. That is almost 100 %.
Do you really want to give up on either as a Leaf Fan.
It will probably be
Gardiner, Connolly or Komisarek, and probably Nazem Kadri or Joe Colborne.
Or
Franson, Connolly or Komisarek, Kadri or Colborne AND a 1st.
Would you be happy with
Gardiner, Connolly and Nazem Kadri?
Franson, Komisarek, Kadri and a 1st?
It's a tough call. But Burke wont be giving up more than that.
17 Feb 2012 15:31:15
The sens have got to do something at the deadline Alfy to Van for 1st, Flo's 3rd and Ballard (Cap Dump), and 1 prospect, Lets say Rodin.
17 Feb 2012 15:09:42
Here would be my suggestion for a Nash to Toronto trade.
Toronto: Nash,Brassard,Mason
Columbus: Bozak,Kessel,Gus
Columbus gets a guaranteed 30 goal/year scorer and Bozak who has proven chemistry with Kessel. Remember prospect are prospects until something is proven.
Columbus has the 1st overall pick...draft Grigorenko and their top 4 of 6 is:
Grigorenko Carter
Bozak Kessel
They won't be a lousy team for 5 years.
Now I make Nash captain, which means I can't keep Phaneuf.
St.Louis: Phaneuf,MacArthur
Toronto: Halak,Polak
Toronto loses offense but gains defense and solid goaltending.
Nashville: Luke Schenn
Toronto: Colin Wilson
Have fun
17 Feb 2012 11:27:14
as Mirtel said in a great read today here...
www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/is-rick-nash-really-what-the-leafs-need/article2340910/
the leafs are 3rd in scoring and 8th in PP but are #rd last in goals against and PK is 29th and save percentage ranked 24th
so why would the leafs trade for Nash and give up all those assets it's taken Burke to get the last 3 years.If Nash gets traded it won't be til summer i'll bet
i have no ideal what Burke will do but i believe he will do something..just no clue what that will be
17 Feb 2012 05:31:56
this year in the 2012 nhl entry draft, i think that columbus, with whatever pick they get in the top 3, will draft d morgan rielly for the moose jaw warriors. they havent had much success with russians in the franchise. I think you're bent if that's who you think they'll draft. They've got Johansen at center already so in the Grigorenko/Yakupov debate, they'll take Yakupov....
-Hawky
17 Feb 2012 04:31:11
I recently watched the movie "Moneyball" and I think one could make the argument that it has similar implications for the NHL in the cap era.
Big market teams like the Rangers, Bruins, Habs, Leafs, etc. have an unquestionable advantage in being able to spend all the way to the cap ceiling (relative to small market teams who struggle to spend to the floor).
But evidently the ability to spend big by no means guarantees a championship. Even large market teams (Toronto and Montreal, for example) can be crippled by a few ridiculously bloated contracts (Gomez, Komisarek, Connolly, all of Buffalo's summer acquisitions, etc).
It seems we have entered an era of frugality, where the winning formula may just be avoiding falling on one's own financial sword in an attempt to bring a big name or two to town. Boston serves as an excellent example of a team bolstered by the great depth and balance that can be achieved by not over spending.
As a Leafs fan, my greatest concern right now is not with landing a Nash, or a Ryan, or a Parise-- though they could very well be worth their bloated paycheques. Rather, I wish to remove the current impediments to success we have on our roster--the komisareks, fingers, connolys, etc. Moving or burying Komi and Connolly alone would free up almost ten million dollars. Thats almost a quarter of what some teams use to finance their entire payroll. Imagine what we could do with that money. The depth it could provide if well spent. Thats what I think it will take to make a serious run at Lord Stanley.
Finance Guy Depth makes a team. A team like Toronto has Kessel and Lupul up front, and Grabovski on the 2nd line. Pretty good production. Everyone is screaming for a big name, but I've been saying for months that depth is what they need. Look at their third line. Pretty poor production, especially as of late. That's where they need to make an impact, in my opinion. Defense is pretty good, and goaltending is iffy (although when one is down, the other seems up so a balance to a degree) but it's the bottom six that is the weak link. Cup winning teams as of late have had excellent 3rd liners (at least one). Examples: Dave Bolland (an absolute key to Hawks shutting down the Sedins in Chicagos cup run especially) and Marchand (again, against the Canucks, when Boston won). Steckel is a top center and I actually think he should be on the 3rd line, not the 4th, and Brown is pretty solid in his role. Aside from that, I don't think the Leafs really have a great bottom 6.
That was way too much talk about the Leafs. I nearly became part of the problem... Yuk...
-Hawky I hear you Hawky but the same argument can be made for lots of teams. I'm sure there are some players (ahem, Horcoff, ahem) that you would love to wave a wand and make disappear).
17 Feb 2012 00:59:50
I got an idea (from reading some of these rediculous Toronto trade suggestions! Why doesn't every team trade their best players to Toronto + this years first round draft picks for all of the garbage that Leaf fans wanna get rid of!!
The way ALL of these Toronto Maple Leaf trade "ideas" sound is very painful to read!!
The second worst team suggestions are from Vancouver...their fans are the same way!! Every team should send their best players to Vancouver for absolute garbage! Funny how this 'joke' hasn't been done every single week, it's not even funny anymore. you have to realize alot of these trade suggestions are from leaf haters or canuck haters. people making these posts are looking for the reaction that you are giving!! joke is on you Ativan bro!
relax I couldn't have said it better! There are idiots here that cheer for many teams but cmon leafs fans are obviously the majority here and are the worst. A lot of these posts they put up are just stupid and would only happen in their imaginations or on xbox. It gets pretty annoying
17 Feb 2012 00:55:25
alright so I am going to premise this on the fact that I am a leaf fan but everyone who is on this forum is pretty stupid.
When LAK are offering Bernier and J Johnson, and draft picks for Nash...do you really think the trades posted below are going to get it done for the leafs? Reality check time boys and girls. Agree.
People will yak yak that I'm a Leafs hater, but the fact of the matter is that i don't see them being able to match offers by a couple of other teams that are chasing Nash.
Still don't think he'll move tho, unless it's Brown, Bernier and a pick....
-Hawky
17 Feb 2012 00:52:17
here we go 2 trade in under an hour moore to sharks and grossman to philly for picks
17 Feb 2012 00:41:55
If Moore is worth a 2nd round pick then Grabovski is worth a 1st +
gonna be a hefty price tag for a lot of GM's come deadline day for players
MuffDiver Well, according to Darren Dreger, the offer on the table for Grabovski is a 2nd and a prospect. Leafs still hoping to re-sign him tho...
-Hawky Lol muffdiver...Moore is a dope utility player. Put him where ever and he will get his job done. and hes A LOT cheaper than grabos 3.5... I am sure one team would offer a LATE 1st for grabo and im sure there is a team that wouldnt give them a gatorade G-series water bottle..
17 Feb 2012 00:30:37
For all you Leaf Haters.
Keep it up.
Dion Phaneuf.... Ha.....
He got cut from team Canada for the 2010 Winter Olympics, then Toronto went and traded for him, then made him captain. COME ON! Its a joke.
The only trade the leafs need to make this year, is one that will help there golf game. (Schenn for a $20000 gift card to Golf Town).
Ron Wilson. . . . . . Whats his deal.
I bet Kessel went home and cried after he found out he got traded to Toronto, he's the only decent player toronto has. Lupul has been a surprise this year, lets see if he can keep it up, i doubt it.
Grabovski tests FA and signs in NY next year.
Reimer is Toronto's savior. . . . . :D
I wonder how long it will take for the elite players to demand a trade out of Toronto, there talents are being wasted.
Toronto will give there fans hope for the first time in a decade, then they will fall apart, and just miss the playoffs, again.
On Saturday, Vancouver will beat Toronto 7-2, Ron Wilson will get fired, way overdue
Hmmmm.... where else can I place my 2 cents, I think I'm done. For Now.
Signed
T.O.M.L.SuCkS. You do know that lupul was always a highly regarded prospect dont you? he had a rash of serious injuries that hampered his career. will he maintain this pace for the rest of his career? maybe maybe not, but he is definitely a 70 point guy when healthy. For someone that hates the leafs so much u sure pay a lot of attention to them So what team do you support? Let me guess you are one of the great fans in Vancity that can't take a loss and fubars your own city, or are you one of the classless hab fans that cheer when a player gets a puck in the face.Leaf fans are proud nation wide and most nights louder than the home teams fans are when we are on the road.John "RAMBO" Kordic is sadly missed. Lupul is a top guy in the right environment.... which is Toronto. That's the only place so far that he has been really effective. Don't give me this "plagued with injury business", he was an afterthought in a couple of cities including Edmonton and Anaheim (especially the 2nd time). He's found a niche in Toronto and Burke would be wise to keep him there for a while..... providing he doesn't go lame next season...
-Hawky I hate the leafs, but I still pay attention to them. . . . . I also follow every other team.
I went to game 7, and I watched the fans of VanCity tare it apart, it was classless, i agree, but it wont change the fact that the canucks at the current time are a better franchise the the Toronto Maple Leafs, and they are more enjoyable to watch. Also, the "fans" that tore up VanCity, were not all fans, a lot of people went down there for the sole purpose of Rioting. 1 out of 2000 people does not define the culture, nor the respect the fans have for this city.
T.O.M.L.SuCkS
16 Feb 2012 23:18:15
Why does coch V not like Hodgson
but swoons over kesler In case you dont watch hockey, Kelser is one the better two-way players in the league and has the drive to do anything to win. Hodgson is young. Vets before youngsters.
BM
16 Feb 2012 22:48:59
Leafs should go after a no. 1 goalie not nash because gustavsson and reimer arent strong enough for the playoffs if they make it Why get a number one goalie when u wont make the playoffs? ;)
16 Feb 2012 21:43:19
Leafs lineup going into playoffs:
Lupul Grabovski Kessel
Nash Bozak MacArthur
Armstrong Connoly Lombardi
Brown Steckel Boyce
Phaneuf aulie
Liles gunnerson
Gardner Franson
Reimer
Gustavsson
16 Feb 2012 21:20:42
To TOR: Nash and Carter
To CBJ: Mac, Gunnerson , Kadri, Scrivens , komisarek,1st rounder and Matt frattin rosehill
To Philly:
Schenn, 2nd 2012,
To Toronto: JVR , AKESON,
TOR: Penner and 2nd rounder 2012 ,
LA: Connolly and Boyce and crabb ,
tor Johnson ,DEREK FORBORT Richards JAKE MUZZIN
LA :LASHOFF , KULEMIN KEITH AULIE , KORBINIAN HOLZER 1 st rounder and Tyler Bozak , brown
ducks : ryan and JUSTIN SCHULTZ and JOHN GIBSON SBISA
leafs : Joffrey Lupul and jesse Blacker and JUSSI RYNNAS and Jerry d'amigo
EVGENY KUZNETSOV and for Jerry d'amigo andMARCEL MUELLER :komisarek
Minny : josh harding for jonas and 4th rounder in 2012
Nash richards kessel
carter Grabo JVR
Penner lombo ryan
ARMSTRONG STECKEL colborne
dion Johnson
lies gardnier
SBISA FRANSON
james
Harding
Dream Leafs team
dont be mean i cant spell tell me you dream team :) At least your honest about it.
16 Feb 2012 19:02:29
P.A. Parenteau 56 G 12G 39 A 51PTS
UFA on July 1 $1.25 million
good player on a lower team if the NYI don't siggn him be a great pick up this summer He is french MTL wants him lol.
16 Feb 2012 18:57:59
Dominic Moore Tampa Bay UFA on July 1 $1.1 million
I would love to see him in Edmonton ,Toronto could use him , Good defensive forward . All Edmonton would need to really make playoffs is a puck moving Dman like Markov. or a striet . ^suter would fit nicely
16 Feb 2012 18:53:25
Paul Gaustad Buffalo UFA on July 1 $2.3 million
could see him in EDM, LA, SJS ,PHX . Gaustad to detroit
16 Feb 2012 18:49:51
StL Ben Bishop St. Louis RFA on July 1 $600,000
TO , NYI, CHI , SJS .
16 Feb 2012 18:47:30
LA Jonathan Bernier Los Angeles Signed through 2012-13 $1.25 million
either CBJ , Chi, MTL, MTL needs him . C price , may end up in Chi . ^what the hell are you talking about?!?!?!
16 Feb 2012 04:38:59
if to does not get a Nash type player they will never go anywhere .do it for the fans that have waited to long know.
16 Feb 2012 05:44:20
Great game between Toronto and Edmonton. I'm really impressed by what The Oilers are building. Glad Toronto got the extra point.
Preview for the 2016 Stanley Cup Finals? Haha.
Wouldn't mind borrowing Smyth for the rest of the season, just saying.
JT I agree. Both Leafs/Oilers games recently were very entertaining. It would be cool to see them matched up more than twice a season...
-Hawky
16 Feb 2012 05:22:16
Rick Nash is a superstar surrounded by bad draft picks and mediocre players his whole career. I'm a leaf fan and don't think he should go to TO. He'll end up in NYR, PHI, DET, NYI, LAK or VAN.
16 Feb 2012 04:32:18
There are things you can count on:
The leafs will not make the playoffs and the owners of MLE hire crappy GMs and they hire crappy coaches. One more comment.
zero toughness = leaf players
16 Feb 2012 02:56:53
If the ottawa senators get into the playoffs they are my wildcard team. If anderson can get hot and Spezza and karalsson keep lighting it up They can defenatly be a threat to knock off a team like Boston or the NYR
16 Feb 2012 01:04:54
Not a rumor, has been confirmed, Canucks fans have tremendously over valued Keith Ballard...
He is a number 4 at best. If they were to deal him they might get a second rounder in return. His cap hit is high and his skills while decent, do not live up to the contract.
That is all! Ballard is not terrible...his contract is a million dollars to high and to long. thats is...you make it seem like hes jeff finger. Not the case
Jkr
16 Feb 2012 00:59:13
Via Damian Cox Twitter.
Can Confirm Leafs are on the Nash willing-to-accept-trade-list to.
Thoughts? Legitimate? Havent read that anywhere. Even if I had, Its likely speculation at best. Also kinda doubt he'd wanna go there, all I've read suggests he wants a smaller market (like Columbus).
But even so, the consensus seems to be that the Leafs dont have enough to offer up to make it happen. I cant see Nash being a Leaf anytime soon...
-Hawky Hawky stop with the crying because the oilers are not on the list
Fan4life ^agreed. It seems like Nash doesnt like the spotlight since he has stuck with his team all this time. I doubt he would want to go to any large market like Toronto or Montreal where reporter interviews account for 50 percent of your office interaction
BM He did tweet that and your right its porbably speculation, but the leafs do have the pieces to get him but they arent pieces burke is willing to part with, they said on tsn it would start with gardiner and a 1st.. thats when burke walks away
Eggo I don't give a fudge if Edm is on his list or not, ya mook, the Oilers wouldn't give up what is required either. I said yesterday already that he won't be coming to Edm before any of these speculative lists even started showing up.
Take off the blinders and look at what other teams can offer (and would offer) that the Leafs can't/won't. Nash ain't coming...
-Hawky
16 Feb 2012 00:37:59
BREAKING NEWS!!
NASH will NOT be a leaf. Heard from a reliable source. He says he doesn't want to be laughed at and actually wants to keep his credibility
sorry leaf fans What you just implied was that nash is bad at hockey and would be exposed under the microscope in toronto
Think things through buddy just cuz ur teams in the basement... ^
If he struggled in one game, the media would lambaste on him and you know it. Ya that actually doesnt happen as bad as everyone suggests
If u have a bad month ahh ya, dont expect to play in the nhl wothout scrutiny if ur not performing
16 Feb 2012 00:03:56
Everyone traded to the leafs. We haven't had a proven goalie for how long, time to step up and go to st louis or... and get a goalie. StL isn't going to trade Halak or Elliott, so you can forget about that. Bishop's available, but no one seems to be going after him...
-Hawky The dont call it 'free' agency for nothin
15 Feb 2012 23:11:07
These are the 5 teams that Nash would like to go to:
Philly
maple leafs
rangers
capitals
canucks
So to all the people that are saying that he is not come to TORONTO are haters. So the leafs have a 1 and 5 chance of landing Nash.
To all the haters out there look it up and you will see, PLEASE NO CRYING IF YOUR TEAM IS NOT HIS WISH LIST.
Fan4Life So did you just go up and ask him for the list? Everyone is guessing . So ?? knows where he will go . I agree. A list on one website is totally different from a list from another site. No one knows, so stop pretending you do...
-Hawky Where did u see this list from? i saw on twitter one team was boston.. but im curious to see where u got this list from
Eggo Ha HAWKY and leaf haters stop with the crying because your teams are not on the nash list.
Fan4Life Yeesh.... I'll stop "crying" when you stop deluding yourself...
-Hawky
15 Feb 2012 22:08:07
Does toronto really want Nash?
Burke could get him if he really wanted too garidner, franson, kadri, colborne, schenn plus they have draft picks. these are all players that are young and have value. I just dont think nash is worth giving up all these players for.
Sure hes a big talanted power forward but is he what the leafs need right now? He makes more money than Stamkos and is no where close to him in my mind.
I dont think burke wants to add a 27 year old guy who makes 7.8 million a year right now. not saying he wouldnt want nash on his team but at this point Nash to toronto isnt a good fit for either side. nash wants to go somewhere that is a legitiment cup contender for the next few years.
NYR is the ovious first choice I beleive. Its a great City and he could potentially be on a line woth brad richards and marion gaborick.
Vancouver is also an attrictive destination he would play with the sediens or ryan kesler but unlikley concidering they are right at the cap.
LA is another attrictive destionation. They would become very competive if they could land a guy like nash. Again he would be playing with kopitar or Mick richards.
Toronto just isn't a good fit for nash right now and I dont think burke is going to pursue him if it means parting with important young peices.
Brian Burke has built teams before (Eg. Vancouver, Anaheim that still have his stamp on them) and he is not about to deviate from his stratagy just to land a big name guy in Nash. Ill tell you right now he is looking for a young power forward ( under 25)Like JVR, B.Schenn, Ryan ,etc. and hes going to be pashiont.
There is a good chance toronto doesnt do anything significant this trade dedline. If he can sign parise in the offseason for fair value and without giving up any assets he probably will, if not thats fine. The leafs are a young team who are developing and when all these young players (kessel, graboskie, kulimin, franson, gardiner, schenn, Aullie, reimer, colborne, kadri) are in their prime 3-4 years down the road toronto will be one of the bigger threats in the leauge.
none of these guys have hit their "prime years" yet and It will take time for that to happen.
This is what has plegged toronto in the past. JF jr. panacked and thought he needed a goalie so he did the RASK for Raycroft deal. (Terribal trade). Then he did logan Couture for toskilla. (bad trade). Luongo, Neidermyar are other examples young guys toronto traded away in the interest of trying to make the playoffs.
My point is that trading away young assets now ,when no one even knowes what they are yet, for a guy who will probably get toronto into the playoffs but not going to carry the team to the stanly cup final just doesnt make sense.
IF you disagree with me I would love to hear your comments....... Passionate*
other than that i agree
W.F Ya i agree with you, that $7.8 salary cap hit really bothers me.. I'd rather try to shed salary (komi, connoly, lombardi etc) and then just look for grit players until the deadline
i dont see a major move for toronto this year, and im not mad about it.. if this team had some hard nosed players i think they'd be a good team (presuming goaltending is consisten which is not at this point)
but I'd be really happy with a stewart type player (not gna happen tho)
Eggo Brian Burke said DAY 1 in office, and i quote.
"IM not building through the draft its a waste of time. People here in toronto dont want to wait. and i dont want to wait either i want this team to compete for whats rightfully theirs (toronto) Lord Stanley. it will take some time but if i can make the team better in one trade i will."
all rookies not rostered are traid bait. EVERYONE. if it means u clean the kitchen for elite talent still young and your team is young fine. you can still always grab players up coming through the NCAA where burke likes to shop. Rugged Tough Skilled players. Mark my word expect a lot out of burke to stop the slow inconsistent bleed in toronto. players will be shipped for hot talent. toronto will make the playoffs and will fall 2nd round.
i also believe that toronto will be a contending threat 2013-2017 with the roster upgraded ofcourse and with the current players rostered like kessel gardner lupul etc.
Finally, all speculations aside
Rick Nash will end up in Toronto
Source: Rick Nash
youtube Rick Nash interviewed in Toronto.
daily news 2 years ago, asked Rick if he would ever consider playing in toronto, his reply....
go online to see for yourself.
djsnix~
15 Feb 2012 20:52:13
JVR for schenn and a 2nd or 3rd!
I would rather the leafs make a deal like this than gice 3 or 4 players and a 1st for Nash! BB needs to keep some of the depth he has managed to get in the organization. and yes i am a leaf fan and yes this is a realistic deal.
15 Feb 2012 19:36:56
I don't understand why people on this site say Nash is not come to TORONTO, last time I check the Malpe Leafs are on the list of teams he would go to. I that said what will BB give up for Nash, I do think with Grabs asking for 5.5 mil a season he will part of a package deal. If BB gets Nash he will be put a canter with Lupul and Kessel
I also think the leafs will make two more trades that included Phlliy and L.A.
To L.A.: Connolly, Kadri
To Leafs: D Brown
To.Philly: Schenn
To leafs:JVR
To BJ's: Grabs,Mac Frason, Riemer Armstrong as salary dump Diamgo and 2nd and a 2nd 2013 if Grabs don't sign
To Leafs: Nash and Mason
Line up
Lupul Nash Kessel
Brown Bozak JVR
Frattin Lamberdi Kulimen
Brown steckel Boyce Maple Leafs are on his list, huh? Pfft.
On this site alone there are 4 or more different lists that poster claim are real. Truth is, no one here knows and even hockey analysts are theorizing.
That being said, I have very strong doubts Nash ends up in Toronto. The Leafs don't have a strong enough package to offer up. In fact, I doubt Nash moves...
-Hawky
15 Feb 2012 16:25:38
Leaf fans get a hold of yourselves and stop posting the leafs entire lineup like you have it figured out on this site every time, last time i checked you guys were not the GM!!!! ^ Last time i checked this is an open site...suck it up buddy Don't like it move on sports GURU. Last time i checked the coaches make the lines, not the GM.. lol
Eggo
15 Feb 2012 16:21:44
I'm not suggesting that he'll come to Toronto but it seems really possible. If Columbus wants that goalie they desperately need they could still get him with moving Carter.
So I'm going to propose 2 trades that will help bring the right players for Columbus.
To Columbus - MacArthur, Kadri, Aulie, Lombardi, 1st in 2012 & 2nd in 2012
To Toronto - Nash
- Columbus gets a young winger in MacArthur who is putting up good numbers. He isn't going to replace Nash's talent but MacArthur is proving that he can be a 25 goals scorer in this league and thats a good thing to have for a rebuilding team. Kadri I put in this deal over Colborne simply because Columbus have a lot of youthful talent up the middle. Kadri has shown that he most likely will be suited for the wing and excluding Nash columbus doesn't have good wingers. One of the bigger problems is the defense in Columbus. Aulie is a big physical defender who is young and what they need more of. Lombardi needs to go in order to help Toronto fit Nash under the salary cap. Yes, its a dump but I feel there needs to be some leadership for Columbus as this team will get very young. Lombardi brings a ton of speed and most likely Phalsson will also be gone so he could be a great 3rd liner. Also, Lombardi has the ability to be a 65 point guy in this league he's done it before and with a full off-season he can do it again. Columbus receives two high draft picks in a deep draft this yea.
To Columbus - Bernier, Hickey, Penner & 1st in 2012
To Los Angeles - Carter
- Penner is purely a dump to fit Carter's contract under the cap. Penner will walk July 1st as an UFA. Bernier gives them that young goalie prospect they've desperately needed. Hickey has struggled this season in the AHL but make no mistake he is a highly skilled puck moving defenseman that would get a lot of playing time in Columbus. Columbus also receives a 1st in this deep draft giving them a total of 3 first rounders.
So here's a projected lineup for Columbus next season
Umberger Johensan Yakupov
Prospal Brassard MacArthur
Lombardi Vermette Kadri
McKenzie Letestu Boll
Wisniewski Tyutin
Aulie Methot
Clitsome Hickey
Bernier
Mason
Columbus will also have 2 other 1sts and 2 seconds to add depth of youth and they will be either pushing for a roster spot and the rebuild will be off to a great start.
Muffdiver
15 Feb 2012 15:44:17
TORONTO SUN: Mike Zeisberger believes the Blue Jackets asking price for Nash makes him too expensive for the Maple Leafs, much higher than, say, offering James Reimer and a first round pick. Zeisberger also cited the difficulty of absorbing Nash s rich contract, plus his no-movement clause allowing him control over which team he can be dealt to. So Nash will not go to Toronto period like any other potential great player...
Toronto will get a Brassard or someone like that but that is it.... Meh, dont really think i want nash anyways, especially if it costs too much and his cap hit so w/e
Eggo
15 Feb 2012 15:19:28
Nash had his chance to come to T.O, when he was about to become a free agent. Instead he decided to resign with columbus. I really dont think he wants the bright lights of the toronto media on him. The rangers and Kings however are a different situation. I think the leafs would be better looking at stewart from St.louis and harding or Backstrom from minny. It would cost less and may plug up more holes. Minny is now in selling mode and Stewart may be had at a reasonable cost, because he doesnt seem to dominate in St.louis like he did in colorado. Id propose Kulimen or a top 4 D on Toronto for stewart, i doubt stlouis would except less.
Patrick ^ He signed before he hit FA and that was on the assumption that CBJ would spend the $ and make the moves to make the Jackets a contender...they did and unfortunately it didn't pan out....
Nash's loyalty cup is almost empty and he has nothing left to give Columbus.... ^
You say that like he wants to move. If he is so desperate to move, why wouldn't he have lifted his NMC much earlier? Why didn't he request a trade? He said he would lift it if asked to, and Howson finally asked to. His list of destinations is so short, likely because he doesn't actually want to move. It makes sense if you think about it. I don't he wants to move, and given the short list and the asking price, I don't think he will...
-Hawky
15 Feb 2012 14:11:11
im a leaf fan and oh boy we need help fast or no playoffs again I agree we need a goalie first maybe halak agre or disagre I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but at least one more time apparently:
HALAK ISN'T MOVING!!
To play it safe:
NEITHER IS ELLIOT!!
-Hawky
15 Feb 2012 13:12:24
RICK NASH will never be a leaf and here is why.
Playing in Toronto is like shopping at the Brick. Within seconds you are hounded and harrassed and you can,t enjoy yourself. Did you see the hourdes of reporters around Nash and how uncomfortable he was. Say what you want, Toronto is the Brick of sports analyst and reporters. All newbies alike trying to get that big story so they can make money off of hockey players and trash the players life as well as there families. That is why Ricjards did not come and why all the top players will not come so get used to it.
We need to draft from the top and keep these players. Bozak, Kulemin, Lambardi and the like,s of Connolly will not win us anything. Sorry boys thats the truth I agree. Watch the final day of the trade
deadline.Hundreds of analyst sitting at a table looking in the air doing nothing.
Waiting to pounce at spilled milk.
What decent player would want to play with that Last time I heard anything Kessel didn;t like it either - seems like it is really bothering him! So you are basically saying if Kessel was playing somewhere he wanted to he would have scored 40 by now?
15 Feb 2012 13:06:33
Would burke empty the cupboard for nash? nash is durable, relatively young, is big, can skate like the wind, can score, can kill penalties, is a leader and would look reallly nice on grabo's wing (with frattin on the other wing)and but yes, of course, has a nas(h)ty contract...so the jackets better start with gardiner,colbourne or kadri,kulemin and a 1st...anything less than that would be sure thievery on burke's part...I would do that trade in a heartbeat if I was burke, he would have to move out a connolly or lombardi or komisarek for whatever (low draft picks, waivers) to make the cap work...if jvr ever gets healthy I would move Lucy Schenn for him, no problem(what a line with jvr grabo and nash)...when you trade a stud like nash you never get back that same star quality player, you get alot of parts, but not the same piece you are trading...so the jackets,(craig patrick has got to be making this deal, not scotty howson), will ask for the moon and rightfully so...any posts for franson and macarthur and connolly and komisarek and armstrong and lombardi or any other leaf castoffs for nash are just garbage, so stop posting that junk... Nash will not come to TORONTO...I AM A LEAF FAN...Look at the trend no big name comes here unless you trade for he and he has no choice or you draft a player high. Unless you are 32 and want to etire in the muskoka,s it is not happening and we will not make the playoffs with, lombardi,connoly.komisarek and on and on ^ does that explain why the leafs are on his list of teams he'd be willing to be traded to?
Eggo
15 Feb 2012 11:23:11
Just a thought from a leaf fan, instead of over paying for Nash and his crazy salary which also includes a long term deal and carries a no movement clause why not try to scoop up Carter who makes less no longer has a no trade clause but unfortunately has a stupid long term deal. It would take less to obtain Carter, less of a cap hit, and he would be easier to move if he doesn't jive in Toronto. He is a center and a 30- 40 goal man. His salary won't be as much as an albatross as would Nash Like I said just a thought.
15 Feb 2012 11:20:16
Just an FYI
Nash will NOT and I repeat NOT be a leaf. He wants to go to a contender and his primary options are New York and Detroit. Stop with the ridiculous proposals cuz it ain't happening. Possibly a Canuck.
If Nash goes to Det, or NYR, Van is going to have a hard time getting past them to win the cup, I think the Canucks make a push for Nash simply for that reason. A trade for Nash with the Canucks would look like this. "Raymond Ballard Schneider and you guest it, a first." The reason why people lump those 3 players in together, is because they are the 3 players the canucks do not need to move forward to push for the cup. Those 3 players still hold a lot of Value. Ballard is still a good speedy offensive Dman, Raymond is a young 2 line forward with room to grow. And Schneids is Schneids, any team would want him on their team. That would be the Canucks offer, they will try to get Nash for the 3 players and hold on to their first.
15 Feb 2012 06:26:24
TO ALL READERS AND POSTERS: THERE WILL BE NO 3-WAY TRADES SO PLEASE STOP POSTING THEM. THEY ARE ALL EXTREMELY UNREALISTIC. THANK YOU
mr
15 Feb 2012 04:51:08
Can Rick Nash play goal? If not its pretty clear what Burke's top priority should be. Say we had Nash in the lineup tonight, so we lose 5-3 instead of 5-1. I agree, but who we gonna get? First and formost thats what we need enuff of this nash crap i say halakkkkk Halak isn't moving.
Man oh man, folk here are dense to that fact.....
-Hawky
15 Feb 2012 02:49:56
Hockey Trade is reporting on twitter that Toronto are on Nash's short list. Theres a reliable source
15 feb 2012 02:16:39
if anyone on this site pays attention to how the leafs trade then everyone should know that the leafs will not take a shot at nash or carter for that matter! the leafs dont have the ammo to get a #1 centre and without one prob gonna slip outta playoffs again as usual:( also the possibility of getting one via summer ufa is not likely. love the leafs just being realistic. everyone should be.
15 Feb 2012 02:03:38
So if there was a trade dead line "team" to go crazy and acquire numerous big names it would probably be? your choice comment because im interested
15 Feb 2012 01:46:53
CBJ are the most, poorly managed team in the NHL and have been since they were awarded a franchise. There only good draft pick was NASH.
Think of all the other picks that were busts zherdev, filitov, the list goes on.
I think they will trade nash and then loose the lottery and end up with the second overall pick and miss out of Yakupov.
It would be just their luck.
Stuiped trades + Stuiped draft picks= Brutal hockey club.
Just get Nash outta there. the poor guy was way too classy to ask for a trade in the past, CBJ you owe it to him to give him a trade to a up and coming team where he can actually win.
15 Feb 2012 01:29:48
The only reason i want nash to go to the leafs is to shut up all these haters about players not wanting to go to TO, and to deny those that say toronto wont get any big names I am a big leaf fan and unfortunately its true. Not because the fans are saying it but because the players are not coming.
Blame the media. We have a hourde of hockey analyst waiting to pounce on any story they can get to make a career here in Toronto. Watch TSN OR SPORTSENT on hockey draft day. You will see hundreds of analysts sitting at a table just looking into the air. It is hilarious. Thats why Richards, Nash Carter will not come period.
Get used to it we need to tank and get high draft picks period
15 Feb 2012 00:54:36
T.Ruutu is out for 3 to 4 weeks
with an injury,possible concussion.
He's off the trade market now.
14 Feb 2012 21:34:06
Think about it. If you are Scott Howsen, and you have 2 really big trade pieces like Rick Nash and Jeff Carter, and you have the team that you have. Its simple going forward.
They need a goalie. Plain and simple.
it doesnt matter which player they trade for it. Carter or Nash.
Of the teams interested and could probably afford him, it is probably
LA, Toronto, Boston, Vancouver.
14 Feb 2012 19:39:39
From what the reports are stating Columbus wants a mint for Nash. A starting tender, a young top 6 forward or top 2 Dman. An A tier prospect or high first rounder. Sure he might be worth it but you have to take a look at the teams that have that to give and then look at their cap space. Jackets will take back minimal contracts so I really dont see Nash moving this year. Rangers don't have the space or the assets in my opinion. Kings have the assets but would have a hard time fitting it under the cap without returning a bunch of salary to the Jackets. Leafs are in the same boat as well don't have the assets to make it happen nor the cap space. He might be moved in the summer but I highly doubt he is moved this year. I kinda agree. Such a limited list of places he'll accept a trade to, and it sounds like those teams are in playoff contention so they probably don't want to mess with their rosters too much. The asking price is pretty big too. If he stays put, I won't be surprised. I also think that if he doesn't move by the deadline, he'll likely stick around through next season too. CBJ will probably strip the team in the off-season and try again with a new team that includes Nash.
We'll have to wait n see tho I guess....
-Hawky
14 Feb 2012 15:30:27
Everybody is talking about Trading Getzlaf, JCarter etc..
I have a Trade I came up with that makes sense for both Teams involved this is what I came up with..
NYIslanders Trade..
Tavares
MMartin
Nabokov
4th Round Pick 2012
Toronto Trades..
Bozak
Kadri
LSchenn
Gustavsson
1st Round Pick 2012
Before anyone says its one sided Toronto way lets break it down..
Tavares - Bozak/Kadri/LSchenn
Nabokov - Gustavsson
MMartin/4th Round Pick 2012 - 1st Round Pick 2012 Ugh Never Ok can we say its onesided for tor n
now ....because it is
bozaK kadri and schenn are not enough to get tavares not even close
14 Feb 2012 05:21:46
Any thoughts on The Caps dishing some players out? Like to see Green in Anaheim if he could stay healthy!
14 Feb 2012 04:10:11
didnt want mtl to trade gomez but you cant play him for 7 mins per game and expect him to do anything especially with kostitsyn on his line trade buyout whatever do something
14 Feb 2012 01:28:44
im a leafs fan, bbut come on some of these trades a re just stupid. and why does everyone insist on making 50 trades, and totally blowing up the roster. also, most people dont even take the cap into consederation when trying to propose a trade.
dont get me wrong, some of the trades are posibly legitimate and real but ohers are just brutal.
14 Feb 2012 00:11:22
What i think the oilers roster should be.
Hall-Nuge-Eberle
Smyth-Gagner-Omark
Glass-Stoll-Jones
Petrell-Lander-Eager
Extra Trevor Gillies
Smid-Petry
Whitney-Gilbert
Sutton-Blum
Extras Potter and Carkner
Dubnyk
C Mason
Draft Grigorinko or Dumba
13 Feb 2012 21:05:03
Can I have your attention please!! This goes out to all leafs fans, you will never ever be cup champs again and that's the truth and nothing but the truth. Thanks for your post Miss Cleo very informative. Just wondering during the next full moon should I invest in Rim stocks? Yes maybe you should invest in whatever you want Mrs Piggy
13 Feb 2012 20:19:18
The Winnipeg Jets traded forward Riley Holzapfel to the Anaheim Ducks for forward Maxime Macenauer on Monday.
TSN
13 Feb 2012 19:32:11
Reimer and a 2nd for halak Try reimer kadri scheen and come back
13 Feb 2012 18:54:05
Possible Trade ?
Columbus Trades..
JCarter
AJohnson
1st Round Pick 2012
4th Round Pick 2012
Toronto Trades..
Kadri
Komisarek
1st Round Pick 2012
1st Round Pick 2013
13 Feb 2012 18:45:09
no other GM in their right mind will take connolly or komisarek for anything...contracts are bad...and the players suck so that makes it even more difficult...
the only moves the leafs make are if they include one of their prospects (yes, luke schenn is still a prospect...others like aulie, gunner, kadri, colbourne, mckegg, d'amigo) and package that with their 1st rd pick for a top 6, and then would still need to include a macarthur or armstrong to make it happen...
13 Feb 2012 17:51:33
Tor - JVR
Phi -Schenn
Win - kadri, 6th
Tor - ladd, 4th
Lupul Bozak Kessel
Klu Grabo Mac
Ladd Connelly JVR
Boyce Steckel Brown
Aulie Dion
Liles franson
Gardiner Komi
Gives the Leafs size and more balance in the line up without a drastic overhaul.
13 Feb 2012 17:48:58
All this talk about BB not wanting to make a move to have TO get their butt's kicked in the first round. Is he Psychic? I wonder if he picked the Giants to win the superbowl this year as most of us had them getting beat right away. you never know what will happen. We cannot have guys like PK Subban beating up on Kessel any longer! BB needs to upgrade so please go get the following guys
1.) Stastny or Getzlaf-first line center.
2.) Eager, Boll, Clowe or Moen- Power forward to provide a little extra grit
3.) Vandermeer from San Jose- Good say at home D-man that adds some extra grit
Thoughts?
13 Feb 2012 16:32:33
For all of you saying that jarsolav halak will be traded this year your all idiots. He will definitely not be. He is tied for the most shutouts in the nhl right now, has a 1.97 gaa and has been great for the blues. Elliott and Halak will both remain blues this year and probably next year as well. The team is paying about 5.5 million 2 nhl starter goalies. Thats a great deal. Closest deal to that is probably Luongo and Schneider and Luongo alone makes more than 5.5. St Louis has the best goalie tandem in the nhl and no one can argue that. Biron and Lundqvist might be close but both combined make 6.5+.
13 Feb 2012 16:25:04
I'm not sure if the leafs should attempt to sign parise if he makes it to FA. Look at gomez and gionta who were successful in NJ and are now duds Please dont tell me your comparing gomez and gionta to parise..
Eggo
13 Feb 2012 12:32:45
I am a Habs fan, and I have heard the rumors about PK Subban possibly, but unlikely being traded. I have also seen some proposals involving him, none of which seem like viable trade options for Montreal.
To the people who think he will be traded, he won't. Because he is Montreal's best dman. The only wat he gets traded is for a young dman of equal talent who could patrol the Habs blueline and put up points for many years. The only other way he gets traded is for a top 3 pick in this years draft plus a decent prospect. I wouldnt say he's montreal's best dman just yet he need's to mature and learn from his mistake's.
13 Feb 2012 04:02:57
Brian Burke going forward Should want his line up to look like this for the future.
Lupul #1 Center Kessel
Kulemin Grabovski Goal Scorer
Frattin Colborne Armstrong
Brown Steckel Crabb
Phaneuf Gunnarsson
Liles Franson
Gardiner Schenn
That leaves
Macarther
Connolly
Kadri
Lombardi
Komisarek
Aulie
Bozak
Out of the picture. Or can be used as trade chips. Good thing is, in the off season, all those bad contracts wont look so bad, because they will have only 1 year left on them. So they will be more easily moved.
They are gonna hard for Parise in the off season, cuz that will give them 2 legtimate lines. It's just getting that number 1 center through trade that is gonna be the tough part.
They are trying to get a package together that would include
Bozak, Macarther, Aulie, Kadri or a 1st. But that might not be enough nobefore the deadline but in the off season though, it might. That's when the Leafs are going to strike. Once they get rid of some of the dead weight (Lombardi, Komisarek, Connolly)
13 Feb 2012 01:56:33
Edm shouldn't trade for a d man they should wait until free agency and go after Suter and Boychuck Boychuk just resigned
13 Feb 2012 01:21:32
I would love to see rask in a oilers uniform. There's probably a. 10% of it happening but you never know. Crazier things have happened Rask seems bothered by the goaltending situation in Boston, but I doubt he'll be moved. If he is, it'll probably be a trade off for a goaltender of equal value. Dubnyk is decent, but I wouldnt put him in the same class as Rask just yet. So, yeah, likely wont happen. Would be nice tho, I agree...
-Hawky
12 Feb 2012 21:35:19
i think the flames need to blow up the team for draft picks and young talent and tank You and everyone else.
The only person who doesnt seem to feel that way is Jay Feaster. Even if Calgary makes the playoffs, I cant see them getting beyond the first round. And boy oh boy is their prospect pool empty. Baerschi, Brodie... and thats about it. They really need to get some picks this year....
-Hawky
12 Feb 2012 20:35:31
To COL: Connolly, Komisarek, Kulemin and Blacker
To TOR: Stastny
12 Feb 2012 20:18:55
the only way i see mike richards and jeff carter moving is if its for eachother columbus would want a #1 center for nash and LA gets their goal scorer leafs fans need to stop and think they don't need a #1 center right now in the futre if they have the cap space maybe but they are the youngest team in the league and have a lot of time to win a cup
12 Feb 2012 19:54:40
I know Burke hates long contracts with heavy $ value but does he go and grab Bryzgalov from the Flyers since Burke loved him in Anahiem?
12 Feb 2012 18:59:50
What the hell is wrong with the Leafs fans here? People say Im anti-Leafs? Look at the "fans". Yeah, 5-0 sucks. For sure. But its ONE GAME. Let it go. Chicago is an awesome team, but they've lost to Edmonton 3 times this year and the combined score in the last two was 17-6 (9-2 and 8-4). Is there need to tear the team apart? Hell no. They're still one of the best teams in the league.
The Leafs are good, in spite of that loss. Ease up. Some depth would help, as would a number 1 center, tho the latter is looking less and less likely for this year.
But keep calm. Dont call for any heads just yet...
-Hawky Agree. Only trades they should make would be salary dumps for low picks. Look for a #1 centre and goaler in the summer. #1 centre does not have to be a big name either. Size & grit with 55 points with the hope of 65 points playing between Kessel/Lupul. JM
12 Feb 2012 16:04:21
Sources say Burke has reached a deal with the great Mats Sundin. Sundin reached out to Burke following the 5-0 loss, asking for a 2 year contract to play in between Kessel and Lupul.
Burke said yes, arguing that anything is better than Bozak. Jesus christ.... this is the last msg, in about 10 consecutive msgs, regarding last nights game. Calm the F down.
IT WAS ONE GAME! Yah, it was obviously a bad one, but let it go. Theres talk about "Trade Reimer! Trade Reimer!" but can you actually pin this on him? Hell no. The rest of the team offered zero support. What else... a number 1 center? Yeah, Toronto lost a buttload of face-offs last night, but do you actually think a number 1 center would have scored 6 goals to insure a victory?
Cmon now... just take a breath and calm down. Toronto is still a decent team, it was just an off night. Put the panic button away.....
-Hawky Yeah you're hilarious. This isnt even a funny joke.
If you're gonna joke, make it worth reading...
-Hawky Sweet, the former canuck is coming back into the league. Toronto does need help, I wonder how many of them have started to practice their golf swing.
12 Feb 2012 15:45:13
Burke invested a lot to get Kessel but he is wasting him by not getting a No. 1 center to play with. Its like buying a 1000 dollar suit and wearing sneakers with it. Time to move on Grabo's high value and make a pitch to land a Getzlaf or Kopitar. Also Philly is desperate for a Dman, Burke should really consider moving Phaneuf to get some of their better wingers. Might not be popular moves but I think we get our best value now and become a better team in the long run. With games like last night ! BB is lucky to get a draft pick for anyone after that lack luster game !
12 Feb 2012 15:30:14
Food for thought,
When you consider it looks like the leafs plan would be to make it into the playoffs this year, possibly 1st round, next year hopefully a bit further and the finals the year after that. And with this year seeming to be a sellers market why not look at trading Kessel, it seems for the last couple of years BB has been desperately looking for a centre with no luck, so why not reverse the approach, trade Kessel for the elusive centre and then build from there. I think Kessel has two more years on a contract with Toronto and I am assuming to resign him wont be cheap. I don't know what you would get for him and doubt very much Burke would do the deal, but if they can't find someone to play with him soon, he could be gone anyway in 2 years
12 Feb 2012 05:02:28
Habs 5
Leafs 0
XD Burke is gonna have to pull off a miracle trade to get these chokers in the playoffs The whole team made Montreal look amazing ,Brown was the only one with any balls out there .Lacked hitting ,desire , energy, Garbo was just that Garbo ! Wilson is the coach and is totaly responsible for team not being ready . I really love to see leafs in playoffs but man with game like that ! Tor made themselves look bad they suck at this time of the year mtl is the better team tor peaked back in january All the talk was grabovski was gonna show mtl they made a mistake tradeing him OUTCOME=habs regret nothing he still disapeers when the going gets tough good luck leafs you are really gonna need it The only thing i would like to see more than montreal beating toronto 5-0 is mikael grabovski getting his ass kicked by andrei markov
12 Feb 2012 02:39:52
heres a rumour phaneuf to echl to play with people of his own caliber
12 Feb 2012 02:37:57
5 to 0 and counting couldnt happen at a better time mats sundin night ole ole ole ole Sundin sucks and so do the leafs Time to put down the big bag of chips and the diet coke and see if you can do any better Once again I still don't understand why Montreal sings a soccer song at a hockey game? Maybe someone can explain it to me? You must be from Toronto, the reason they sing it at soccer games, is because its a celebration song, I can see why you don't understand, your from Toronto. I'm from Van, and we sing it all the time (because they win games ^,-) and yes i know they lost game 7, but they got there.
12 Feb 2012 03:51:31
Once again, Sundin inspired the leafs to screw the pooch. Still the worst captain in leafs history.
12 Feb 2012 03:47:25
To Toronto: Xtra large coffee for the sleeping Brian Burke. But seriously he's done a good job, Kessel, Lupul, Grabo and Gardiner. Just 19 more guys and your right there Burkie.
What the hell did i just waste two and a half hours watching, why the hell didn't Sundin bring his gear ?
12 Feb 2012 02:55:40
yeah what a difference liles will make when he comes back have they won since? leaf fans are full of it i told you guys last week the yearly choke was gonna start Habs will have tor and ott passed within the next 15 gps That would be epic if montreal eliminates toronto from the playoff's.
12 Feb 2012 02:52:10
wow even with biased referees its still 5 to 0 mtl man leafs suck
12 Feb 2012 02:43:03
leafs lose 3 in a row mtl has won 4 in a row are things finally getting back to normal?
12 Feb 2012 02:42:01
mike brown has been the leafs best player says a lot about the team when a player who isnt good enough to be in any other teams top 15 forwards is your best lucky the score isnt 10 to 0
12 Feb 2012 02:13:43
can the leafs get a goalie...please
12 Feb 2012 02:07:47
Hey Burke ... now what are you waiting for? You better make some trades soon before you slide any further down the standings. As a leaf fan I like the team but if they do make the playoffs, this team will be bounced out the first round.
Need more than a centreman... need a big winger with talent that doesn't shy away from the corners. I still think the goaltenders are too weak also. True, but nobody is making any significant deals right now because they teams selling are asking too high a price for their assets. As the deadline approaches and teams start thinking they won't be able to make trades either the sellers are going to decrease their demands or the buyers will start paying inflated prices. Always sell at the deadline unless you are one player away from winning the cup. JM
12 Feb 2012 02:05:17
Is it just me or does Glen Healy forget who gave him a job and hates all things Leafs....F U Healy Yeah cause healy aint biased for the leafs yeah right
12 Feb 2012 01:19:34
@hawky - nash has said hes willing to waive his no trade clause just google it. You lost all credibilty
the real cawky Yes, he said a LONG time ago that he'd be willing to if asked to by mgmt (old news), but never said he WANTS to move. And if he wanted to, why hasn't he already waived it? Deal couldve been made by now if that was the case. But it hasn't. And probably won't be.
Regardless of all this, he won't wind up in Toronto.
-Hawky By the way, you're an person if your intent was to make me feel embarrassed by that. Get a life. This is a hockey "rumors" site (seems more like a hockey "dreamland" site given some of the proposals) so who gives a flying fudge?
I dont have insider information. No one here does. But I'll say this. I HIGHLY doubt Rick Nash goes anywhere....
-Hawky Released today, Columbus is now shopping him, it looks like he will move. He won't go to Toronto (face it they suck), he will probably go to a "Contending Team" NYR would be near the top of his list, Philly, Det, Stl, La, Van.
If Nash does wave his no trade clause, he will get to chose what team he goes to, the only problem with that is, what teams would want him? $7.8M cap hit till 2018, thats pretty steep for a player who has produced a Point per game only once in his career, he has never had a legitimate center to play with and has broke 40 goals twice, but it will be tough for any contending team to take on his contract. That being said, a lot of teams still have a lot of cap space, so they might push to get him because he is a legitimate top 6 forward and would help anyteam assuming they don't have to give up much
11 Feb 2012 20:02:24
Leads fan save us the trouble and stop posting Nash to the leafs trades it will never happen EVER!!! You might get at best JVR nothing better than him got it F***!! Truth.
-Hawky
11 Feb 2012 15:12:57
This would be amazing....
Toronto: bobby Ryan
Anaheim: schenn, bozak, Percy, 4th
Colorado: Kulemin, Aulie, holzer
Toronto: Ryan o'reilly ,4th
Toronto: Jordan staal
Pittsburgh: Kadri, 1st 2012,1st 2013
New jersey: Armstrong,2nd, brad Ross
Toronto: David clarkson
Lupul-o'reilly/staal-kessel
Ryan-Grabovski-MacArthur
Colborne-o'reilly/staal-clarkson
Boyce/Crabb-Steckel-brown
Sign boychuk from Boston
Phaneuf-boychuk
Gardiner-franson
Gunnarson-Liles
Gustavsson/reimer in net!
11 Feb 2012 13:45:24
So in my opinion it will be a slow trade deadline. The buzz around the league is that the cost on the most coveted players is dangerously high. So as far as this year I don't see names like Carter, Roy, Suter, Weber, Ryan and so on to move.
However the jury is still out on some of the support players. I can see ruutu being moved but the price will remain high(my thought is they want a young forward with upside or top 4 d man plus a 1st rounder). Not sure the canes really want to sign him that could just be banter to push teams to move on him
Derek Roy is another that could move but I think it is unlikely as well. I see him perhaps moving in the summer. But the Sabres won't be giving him away.
Guys that are likely to move in my eyes are. Nabokov from NYI( likely suitors Detroit and Chicago) Hemsky( Detroit likes him, as does Pittsburgh) Hal Gill( San Joes, NYR, Pittsburgh all interested) Ray Whitney ( depends on the Yotes playoff situation but I see him going either way and I would see the Rangers calling for sure and perhaps the Panthers as well)
Finally as for the Leafs I am a realistic Leaf fan and know there will be no deadline day blockbuster. Burke does not rush his deals do anything massive would likely come post entry draft. However I can see him trying to add some depth for a playoff bid while at the same time trying to make some cap room. Guys I can see the Leafs calling about are Stoll in LA depending on his health situation and Would likely call Edmonton about Gagner however I think the Oil hold Gagner as long as possible to see if his value goes up. Which will scare Burke off in my opinion. They will call about Malone if they have not already but won't likely pay what Tbay will want(plus the contract is a downside)
My opinions only based on my views of the teams and their wants and needs No big trades will happen unless teams have UFA's that they can't/won't sign. Too many teams are battling for a playoff spot right now, the only team that will be selling is Columbus but even then there won't be anything huge, also Edmonton might sell as well, but you won't see anyone bug move just guys like Sutton, Hordichuck etc.
-BiGDaDDy
11 Feb 2012 04:11:02
Im a big fan of dustin brown. if LA wants to shake things up a bit.
Toronto: Brown, penner
LA: kulimin, mcarther, (mid level prospect)
Penner will either be resigned at a reasonable salary or just let go in the offseason. Brown is the hardest hitting forward in the game (if he didnt play for LA and we actually got to see him you would know this) and hes skilled enough to consistantly pop 20-30 goals every year.
Forget Ryan or JVR hes the big physical top 6 forward burke should persue
11 Feb 2012 02:15:28
Sourays not in the lineup................hmmm whats up with that ? Probably a rest day. bumps and bruises. He's old.
-Hawkt
10 Feb 2012 19:07:00
t kaberle to minn for m zidlicky There the same player with different names. Useless. Your useless zidlicky has 1 year less on his contract which is good for mtl but kaberle is playing better right now so minn would proberly make the deal
10 Feb 2012 19:04:40
andrei kostitsyn rapheal diaz 2nd rd pick from cgy 2013 to nyr for brandon dubinsky No chance..
10 Feb 2012 16:59:57
Komi, Army will be dealt but the trade deadline.
Lomi will be dealt if he agrees to play another year.
BB will make one last push to get a top 6 without messing with the chemistry.
Two big wingers are on the agenda this season.
If all fails then you will see some of your favs dealt.
Grabo signing at a realistic price is priority.
Connolly is just not right as a Leaf. If BB keeps him he may return to form next season.
Lobo
10 Feb 2012 16:26:06
Does anyone else just completely ignore a post when it is concerning the Leafs? Like talk about overkill. Does anybody else get sick of people whining about the leafs trades being made on this site? either about too many of them, or how silly they are. ^go find your pacifier ;)
10 Feb 2012 07:41:33
To ana: grabovski kulemin colborne aulie 1st
To tor: ryan brookbank 3rd 4th Then trade ryan for gomez If you trade grabo and Kuli then you may as well move Mac too. Toooooo much in this trade. I think Ryan is off the table this season.
10 Feb 2012 05:42:33
has any player signing a long term contract actually thrived upon signing it in any sport Dipietro has It's like he's been on
vacation ever since he signed his deal
either that or he's on a early retirement plan,but continues to get payed for not
playing...smart guy...
10 Feb 2012 05:08:10
Connolly has got to go. There must be somebody that wants him out there. even for a later round pick. We need to bring up one of the kids for his spot and get someone who will actually work hard for their spot. It's almost like because he is not on the top 2 lines, he's not even trying. Sorry Timmy.. I agree but I don't even think the Marlies
would want him,send him off to the khl. What about this Hamilton dude on the Marlies ?
10 Feb 2012 02:49:02
To bruins: smyth potter petry 2nd round pick
to oilers: kelly corvo Nah.
-Hawky
10 Feb 2012 02:17:53
gomez scored for mtl Now trade him to the maple leafs..
10 Feb 2012 00:44:16
coady franson is a wicked defenceman and very under rated in my mind. He is wayy better then Aullie and schenn.
Keep phaneuf, liels, gardiner, franson for the top 4 core group and use schenn, aullie, gunnerson as trade bait. They are all good young defencemen but dont fit in the leafs future.
There isnt many young d-men available this dedline so set your price high and make teams overpay if they want one of these guys for the playoffs. If they wont pay then too bad they can go into the playoffs under equiped.
Dedline day will be crazy there will be a lot of GM's under alot of pressure to land a big defenceman, Philly is one team that comes to mind. Finally, someone who agrees that franson is just getting better each game i watch him play. and there isnt enough good things to say about gardiner at this point.
10 Feb 2012 00:22:12
Goalies who could be moved:
Evgeni Nabokov
Jhonas Enroth
Nikolai Khabibulin
Curtis Sanford
Carey Price You really think price will be traded? Price? That one I highly doubt....
Nabokov is iffy at this point too, though I suppose there is a chance....
-Hawky Price ain't moving, I think this Bishop kids a diamond waiting to shine
09 Feb 2012 23:33:34
Just read a quote by Tuuka Rask from an interview with a Finnish newspaper. He's very unhappy with the Bruins organization, he feels unappreciated, he gets no consecutive starts, even after a shutout and he is frustrated. He is tired of being the backup. Anyone think he could be dealt? What would it take?
-BGS If this is true i really hope oilers take a crack at him It was on twitter, im not one of those BREAKING NEWS lunatics, but he would be awesome in edm, probably would have to give up paajarvi and the 2012 first, maybe more, i dont know Yes its true, only problem is i dont see boston trading him, thomas is 38 and almost at the end of his career.. if anything they should trade thomas in the offseason to a team that needs goaltending and keep rask
Eggo How about the leafs lol We'll take tuuka back for connolly
09 Feb 2012 23:32:46
To NSH: Connolly
To TOR: 6th rounder
Need to get rid of him to bring up a prospect and to RE SIGN GRABO Not fair to nashville
09 Feb 2012 21:46:48
If oilers end up with 2nd overall pick would it be wise of them to try to acquire the 3rd or 4th overall pick. They'll be able to draft grigorenko and Murray. Just think about in 2-3 years oilers will look much different they most likely won't have hemsky, and maybe even horcoff. They will have plenty of cap to sign eberle, hall, Hopkins and who ever they draft this year. If they draft Murray he probably won't enter the NHL for another 2-3 years. I thought Murray was the most ready to make the move into the NHL, as far as D prospects go that is...
-Hawky ^ you're right hawky, murray is the most nhl ready dman in the draft, i expect him and dumba to enter right away, and i think those are the 2 players the oilers should draft.. question for u hawky since ur an oiler fan..
if u were the gm who would u draft? and if it was one of the 2 dmen i mentioned, which one?
murray - a very calm, cool defender with the puck and very positionally sound (think of a young lindstrom)
dumba - an offensive bone crushing defender but is also smart in his own end
Eggo That's what I think Hawky but for some reason I don't think oilers will play him he'll be in the minors another year. Just a gut feeling Who I'd draft depends entirely on draft position, but if it was only between the two Dmen mentioned, I'd probably take Murray. Dmen are so difficult to judge before they enter the NHL so its pretty up in the air as to which choice is better.
-Hawky Getting another high pick for oil is unrealisitc in my opinion because the oil would have to give A LOT to get one.
-Realistic Leafs Fan
Huge trade in the works involving 2 best players in the league:
To Montrel: Derek Roy
To buffalo: Scott Gomez, 1st round picks in 2012-2050!!
Joking aside I don't think anyone will take Gomez. Roy could end up elsewhere having one bad season but look for Gomez to have his contract bought out. No player is as bad as Gomez is per dollar
09 Feb 2012 20:42:04
It upsets me to say this, but one of the Leafs with the most UP-side, that isn't contributing for the play-off push is Kulemin... And if you watch the Leafs every game, you have to admit, there IS something there, and I believe every other GM in the NHL knows that too... that's why, I believe any potential blockbuster deal will include Kulemin.
i.e.
Bobby Ryan for Kulemin+Kadri+1st
the leafs would be forced to make a salary dump deal as well, but this deal gives Anaheim some reasonably priced second line help, MAYBE 1st line potential... a high prospect and a middling to low (hopefully) 1st round pick.
Other things to remember: it frees up some money for Ana as well, so they can spend their money in different ways. Also,I am not sure the Leafs need a stud center if they can take some of the pressure off the first line... There is only ONE Chara on Boston, can he continue to smother Kessel if B Ryan/Grabo/MacArthur are next out the door?
The stud deals are rarely made stud for stud, they are made for money reasons, cap reasons, future considerations, they let a team go in a different direction... just sayin'.
09 Feb 2012 20:07:19
Unless Burke overpays for a 1st line player the Leafs should stand pat until the off season. This is a playoff team, just not good enough to go far. Unless the Leafs should make it past the second round, which I don't think they will, Shed some veterans for some youth. Players who should be moved in the off season or at the dedline:
Connolly- Is a solid #2 center that just hasn't clicked in T.O. Could get a high pick or packaged for a front line player
Gunnarsson- With 6 very good defencemen under the age of 25. Gunnarsson has had a solid season and his value is high. Could be packaged for a player or 2nd DP
Komi- Teams could use him for a playoff run. Could get you a mid DP
Lombardi- Solid 2nd line player that many teams could use on the wing or at center. Could be packaged for a player, 2nd/3rd DP or packaged to move up in the draft order
Armstrong- Solid checker/3rd line player any team making a run at the cup could use. 3rd DP back when healthy
Macarthur- Very good player that can net them a top player in a package. Could get 1st DP and a mid pick
C.B
09 Feb 2012 18:41:27
here's one i would like to see
NASH AND 1ST ROUND PICK to toronto
COLUMBUS IN RETURN GETS
KADRI
COLBOURNE
KULLIMEN
AULIE
1ST ROUND PICK 2012 & 2013 Take out colbourne or kadri 1st overall pick stays in Columbus. Unlikely for a first overall to ever be traded. Wow thats a very tempting offer you got there.. Keep dreaming buddy.
09 Feb 2012 17:29:40
Ok so this post is not about a hockey trade but everyone on this site has good insight into the game of hockey, and i wanted to hear some people's thoughts.
Gem's of the Draft From 2000-2005
2000
Round 7 # 215 Matthew Lombardi
Round 7 # 224 Antti Miettinen
2001
Round 9 # 264 P.A Parenteau
2002
Round 8 # 241 Dennis Wideman
Round 8 # 234 Maxime Talbot
2003
Round 7 # 205 Joe Pavelski
Round 8# 239 Tobias Enstrom
Round 8 # 245 Dustin Byfuglien
Round 9 # 263 Matt Moulson
2004
Round 7 # 214 Troy Brouwer
Round 9 # 262 Mark Streit
2005
Round 7 # 200 Sergei Kostitsyn
All of the above mentioned players were taken 200th or later on in the draft and if you were GM which of these players (pick 3) are you smacking your head off your desk the most about?
NHL GURU Who cares Pavelski & Byfuglien!!!
However im a little upset about Moulson as J.T is making him look very very good. I'm not sure which year it was, but Patric Hornqvist was the very last person drafted in his draft year. Not too bad for last overall...
-Hawky Maxime talbot
09 Feb 2012 15:26:30
Breaking News!
Leafs- Nash,Staal,Perry,Carter,Getzlaf and Ryan
CBJ,ANA,CAR- Doesn't matter cause all these guys want to play in T.O,. You get what B.B will give you.
GO LEAFS GO!! The rest of the NHL doesn't matter anymore! Sweet! so what do the lines looke like? Does it matter what the line's look like? As long as the leaf fans stop crying! I don't think anyone of those
players will ever play for The TML'S.
09 Feb 2012 12:31:07
Any one wanna take bets that jvr from Philly will suddenly be 100% better at feb 28 th after the trade deadline Either that are he will retire,just like
Keith Primeau,Eric Lindros and Scott
Stevens all had multiple head injuries. Scott stevens played 22 seasons and if im not mistaken, he was the one giving the concussions to lindros, primeau and kariya Yes but after Stevens retired
he came out and said it was because
of multi concussions that he had to retire
as well. It was post concussion syndrome caused by a puck hitting him in the head. all athletes get concussions, just depends on how they recover. Im sure he got a whole bunch, but apparently the puck caused some serious damage
09 Feb 2012 11:53:06
Trade Deadline Day = NOTHING, trades are too hard to make, too many teams in the playoff hunt and the salary cap is handcuffing the gm's.... Oh.....nothing...forget it nothing
at all.
09 Feb 2012 03:43:05
Derek Roy is the worst player in the NHL. I think gomez is up there,or i should say down there.
what do you think 'nogo gomez'
for 'derek not patrick roy?'
09 Feb 2012 02:26:17
The Rangers have laid a deal out for either Weber,Suter with little response...The Rangers are also pressuring the Yotes for Yandle....G.S. is desperate to improve the PP in the big apple... What does G.S. have to offer?
besides Wade Redden....
09 Feb 2012 00:40:29
colbourne schenn kadri 1stpick and more and maybe you can get getzlaf dont even waste space on here with rumors of anything less from tor i dont even think you get him for this 4 first rounders? Get a job and get real man
08 Feb 2012 23:35:40
Blacker,Colborne & Ross are Leafs property for a loooong time....
cosain I really hope so
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