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26 Mar 2021 20:50:18
Canucks trade Brandon Sutter 50 retention.
Leafs trade Kerfoot 50% retention after this season.

Leafs struggle defensively and struggle winning faceoffs, Sutter becomes a big upgrade for the Leafs at the centre position.

Canucks get a below average 3rd line centre for the following 2 seasons.


1.) 26 Mar 2021 23:07:21
Kerfoot's still better than Sutter, and if there's one thing the leafs do well besides scoring (which they haven't been doing a lot lately), it's taking faceoffs. Tavares is at 57% and Matthews is at 52; Nylander and Spezza often take draws in place of Kerf and Engvall who have struggled, and both of the former two are at 58%.

Sutter is an overall downgrade at center + a bigger cap hit for an upgrade to faceoff percentage which is something which the Leafs are pretty fine at. Pretty easy pass from Toronto, tbh.

2.) 27 Mar 2021 00:08:54
You can't retain just some years of a contract anymore, it has to be for the entire duration of contract.

3.) 27 Mar 2021 12:05:58
Leafs are a good face-off team, and should target glendenning who is the top face-off guy this season, albeit on a small total draws, butnstill is above Bergeron.

4.) 27 Mar 2021 13:49:45
Glendening or Derek Ryan (50% Retained Salary) both solid 4C’s.

5.) 27 Mar 2021 15:17:49
Ryan @50% is probably possible but the Flames would want a 4th round pick for him. That's without Kerfoot, if they want us to take Kerfoot too the price goes up, a 3rd if Kerfoot is also 50% retained, a 2nd if he isn't.

6.) 27 Mar 2021 17:11:19
Glendening and ryan are good at everything but scoring.



19 Mar 2021 18:15:28
Toronto needs a depth forward, as well as another top 6 and a depth defender.

2 of those 3 can be addressed with Canucks.

Canucks trade Jordie Benn and Jimmy Vesey for
Toronto 4th 2021 and Mikhayev/Engvall


1.) 19 Mar 2021 20:14:19
Yeah Toronto put Vesey on waivers so they could trade for him from Vancouver.

2.) 19 Mar 2021 20:56:41
Renidrag - so The Leafs are trading for Vesey who they waived like saying your fired in an everyday job, and also getting Benn who would be the 7th Defenceman on Toronto as well as a UFA after this season for 2 of there best bottom 6 forwards plus a 4th Round Pick also.
You must be a Canucks fan to post this.

3.) 19 Mar 2021 21:28:09
Vesey was placed on waivers, they're not trading Engvall or mikhayev for him.

4.) 19 Mar 2021 22:45:37
Mikheyev and Engvail do not have the same value. You could make a legitimate argument of Mikheyev being a top 5 forward on the oilers.

5.) 20 Mar 2021 14:32:03
I can't see Dubas trading an asset for a player he let go for nothing just the other day.



17 Mar 2021 12:06:53
Montreal badly needs a centre to win faceoffs. Vancouver has 2 that are in top 20 for faceoff win percent.

Canucks trade Brandon Sutter
Montreal trades 2nd round pick and Joel Arma. Joel is added to make the cap work.


1.) 17 Mar 2021 14:09:12
Armia is better and 5 years younger. If Montreal goes after a center, I would think it would be a #1/ 2.

2.) 17 Mar 2021 20:05:24
Armia could get a second round pick alone I’m sure, a big body like him for the playoffs gets teams paying the price. I actually think Armia might even get a late first on his own, he is better then Blake Coleman who got both a first and Nolan Foote I believe.

3.) 18 Mar 2021 13:52:49
I’d rather go after Luke glendenning.

4.) 18 Mar 2021 18:17:26
Habby2, was just pointing out the Habs need for a centre.
It changes it up a bit in here with all the Kerfoot/ Engvall for some good players with 50%salary retained.

5.) 18 Mar 2021 20:37:52
Yes glendenning is a center too I wasn’t arguing your initial post just that I’d rather him over sutter as he would be an ideal 4th line center and could probably be had for cheaper and is a smaller cap hit which would mean we could keep armia too.



15 Mar 2021 15:18:38
Montreal needs to replace Chariton, who is out for remainder of season.

Canucks trade Jordie Benn
Montreal returns a 4th round pick.


1.) 15 Mar 2021 17:28:06
I think montreal would want someone better or for Van to eat some of the 2mil salary. I could see it happening.

2.) 15 Mar 2021 17:29:13
caps issue.

3.) 15 Mar 2021 19:59:28
I would think Chiarotwould be placed on LTIR, which allows the Habs to go over the limit.
Not sure Benn is really the guy the Habs need, but he is a familiar face and a capable 6/ 7defenseman needed for what could be a playoff push.

4.) 24 Mar 2021 13:33:03

Lol, some of you don't even try



12 Mar 2021 16:14:38
Vancouver trades Tyler Motte to Toronto for Kerfoot(50% retained)& a 2nd round pick.


1.) 12 Mar 2021 16:39:28
I know this is probably supposed to be a troll at Leafs fans wanting everyone 50% retained, but at least in most 50% retained trades a 1st/ Sandin/ Robertson ++ is going back the other way.

Also, Kerfoot isn't a salary dump. Johnsson at full got Joey Anderson, Kerfoot likely has similar value and won't be needing retention and/ or a pick attached for the Leafs to dump him. I personally am content with keeping him, I like what he brings to the lineup and don't really want to move him for a rental like Granlund or so, but it may end up happening - still, I don't think his value is negative.

2.) 12 Mar 2021 17:56:00
Well said topshelf. While there are some delusional leaf fans, there are just as many trolls.

3.) 12 Mar 2021 19:11:39
Topshelf or Toronto17
Do you ever tell your fellow Leaf fans that maybe they should stop with the ridiculous retention trades.
Teams are not going to be out there helping the Leafs.

4.) 12 Mar 2021 19:19:23
Toronto isn't a seller, why would they retain? Plus add the pick? Is Motte going to fill his role +?

Most trades this year for rentals will probably be 50% retained. There are few buyers, not just with the cap, but with revenue. If Toronto asks for a player at 50% off but not compensating the retention, they'll move on if told no. There are a bunch or rental options.

5.) 12 Mar 2021 19:37:25
Renidrag, if a team is out of contention and they can get a serviceable player, pick and prospect, they will retain. It’s about helping their future. Not saying the proposals are fair but teams do this.

6.) 13 Mar 2021 02:19:24
Renidrag seems bitter.

Well said TSS. People keep saying that retaining 50% is doing the leafs a favour. it’s not a favour if the value of the trade is adjusted. If the prospect changes from liljegren to Sandin, that’s a significant price to pay.

7.) 13 Mar 2021 17:59:47
Considering probably 25% of pending UFAs in a non flat cap world are retained I’m not sure how you’re not intelligent enough to pick up that in a flat cap world almost every significant trade will have retention. Even Laine was retained. @reindrag

I want you to study the CBA and all the past years trades look into escrow etc then come back and talk because it’s so clear this is a uneducated childish ploy to garner leafs fans attention. It just make you look like a little kid.




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02 Mar 2021 06:08:08
Calgary trades somebody for something.


1.) 02 Mar 2021 13:31:48
How about anybody for anything? With various picks from either side to even out value.

2.) 05 Mar 2021 04:56:08
I like it, seems like a good trade for both teams.



16 Jul 2020 11:58:42
I know Leafs fans won't agree withis, but I expect that if Toronto makes a trade of anyone of the top 4 paid forwards, they will be disappointed with the return.
In order for that team to get better, they need to free up apace, which is essentially a ap dump, so I don't expect to see the Leafs getting a major haul when/ if the do trade one of those players, I expect they will get a fair trade, which h would get them a quality defender and some other pie as.


1.) 16 Jul 2020 14:05:34
I think they could get good value for Nylander. Tavares just won’t be moved because that’s would just be the absolute lowest thing the organization could do. Marner and Mathews are to expensive to be traded for imo.

2.) 16 Jul 2020 14:55:09
If anyone would go, I agree it'd be Nylander. I also agree with the return being underwhelming, tho.

3.) 17 Jul 2020 02:40:16
The return could be underwhelming as mentioned but it depends on what Leafs want in return.

Nylander for a Dman of similar caliber 1 for 1 hockey trade isn’t out of the question right?

Although wingers for Defenseman is a different story than a Center.

4.) 17 Jul 2020 03:21:39
Nylander is on a great contract. I think it’s much more likely that you see a Kapanen+Dermott or Liljegren type trade. By themselves those players hold decent value, but together they hold very good value and could get you a very solid defenceman.

5.) 17 Jul 2020 14:10:06
In fairness to the Leafs other then McD no big contract player who makes over $10 mil per their team won't receive what they are worth in this C-19 cap uncertain NHL.



28 Jun 2017 15:38:44
Have a feeling Tavares is going to be moved. With Barzal coming and a couple nice picks from Harmonic deal,looks more like a teardown is going to happen in NYI than a strong support group for Tavares.
Watch for Montreal or Columbus to be players here.
Montreal could offer up Galchenyuk along with 1st round picks in 18& 19.
Columbus could offer up someone like Jenner and a couple 1sts.
Just a hunch.


1.) 28 Jun 2017 16:12:40
He will stay where he is. As much as i would like him with the Habs, he isn't going anywhere.

2.) 28 Jun 2017 16:20:17
If he does become available, In sure Habs as well as many other teams would be figuring out how to get him. Unfortunately for us Habs fans, many other teams can mak a way better offer than Bergevin could. Not to many future assets or current ones on Habs that would interest Snow.

3.) 28 Jun 2017 17:05:33
I guess they traded for eberle for his experience in rebuilds then lmao.

4.) 28 Jun 2017 17:42:35
Agree Dr Drai.

5.) 28 Jun 2017 22:43:01
Isles just traded for Eberle to give Tavares a quality winger. Tavares isn't going anywhere.




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17 Apr 2021 18:36:33
Your hockey knowledge is incredible, how do you not have a job in the NHL?




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15 Apr 2021 23:57:15
You like to criticize people for expressing an opinion on trade value then state Eichel is a top 100 of all time lol. You are to much.




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15 Apr 2021 23:43:27

You are almost right.
A player can still be traded and play, after the TDL, they just can't play in the post-season.




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12 Apr 2021 06:25:59
Late in which way? They appeared to be done well before the deadline and before 10 p. m.




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08 Apr 2021 21:20:40
Full retention = 50%, not sure why some people can't figure that out.





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