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21 Feb 2018 08:50:03
Just a thought. Would Draisaitl for Faulk & Rask/Lindholm be fair? Gives Carolina a #1 center and Edmonton the RD they need, plus a #3 center. I already know what FT4A will say, just wondering what normal Oiler fans would think.


1.) 21 Feb 2018 11:29:15
Looking at it again, maybe Draisaitl for Faulk, Lindholm plus? I don’t think Edmonton should trade Draisaitl at all but Carolina has some good assets to at least get Edmonton thinking.

2.) 21 Feb 2018 13:29:32
I think it would have to be lindholm Faulk and a pick for Draisatl.

3.) 21 Feb 2018 13:37:32
I be always been a fan OF Elias Lindholm and belief he still has the potential to become just as good or maybe better then Drai so big no from Canes. I think Drai' s stats are saturated and that If he played in Carolina he would be a 60 point player tops. Still good but Drai is like a Monahan you know? Do u trade Faulk and Linholm for Monahan? Nooo.

4.) 21 Feb 2018 15:12:27
It’s going to have to way more than that lol and no sorry Lindholm will never be just as good or better than Drat yikes man. And that comparison is whack lol.

5.) 21 Feb 2018 15:57:29
Oilers add, maybe Nurse, Yamamoto and 2018 1st.

6.) 21 Feb 2018 18:39:05

Austin Matthews for the crew you named instead seems more reasonable.

7.) 21 Feb 2018 20:03:23
Sorry oil fans. Trying to make your team better but that’s a monumental task. That is yet again a very original reply yup. FT4A, there is no crew in this league that could fetch an Oiler player is there? I guess you guys stick with 3 good centers and nothing else. Good luck with the tank job chirp.

8.) 21 Feb 2018 21:34:41
McJ and Ebs, please disregard any negative comments I make towards the oilers. I do like Edmonton and you guys seem ok. I really don’t think the Oilers should trade Draisaitl but they should be listening to every offer. Is there a package from Carolina you would accept?

9.) 21 Feb 2018 22:31:14
It’s not too bad I just think a lesser trade based around Nuge would be more realistic. I think Faulk and Nuge have closer values than Faulk and Draisaitl.

10.) 22 Feb 2018 00:17:58
Thanks Ebs. I think Faulk and Hopkins could be a one for one similar to Johansen and Jones. Maybe a small add somewhere. I do believe that Draisaitl has what it takes to bring in a top defenseman, top 6 forward and possibly more. You’re right about a Hopkins deal being more realistic but it doesn’t solve the winger issue. However, trading Draisaitl would hurt too much I’m guessing. I wouldn’t want to see him go if he was on my team.



10 Feb 2018 17:29:14
It's no secret the goaltending on Long island is a disgrace. What about making a move for Craig Anderson? His #'s are down this year but he is a much better goalie than Halak IMO. Anderson might just need a fresh start on a team battling for a playoff spot. Halak is a UFA so Ottawa can let him walk and address their goaltending in the off season. Also, Tavares has said he wants to see management doing everything they can to put together a winning team.

Anderson for Halak plus a 2nd or 3rd?


1.) 10 Feb 2018 19:10:31
I think that’s interesting but I’d think Ottawa would want a better return since they will be entering their full rebuild. But I also don’t know how much they value Anderson. But good post.

2.) 10 Feb 2018 21:09:02
Andys turning 37 in may, he's been a great goalie for a long time. it all comes down to how much gas he has left in the tank, personally I've been expecting this drop off for a season or two now because of his rising age. Wish ottawa did something with they're goaltending in the off season last year when all the fleurys and bishops were on the move, even all the jonathan berniers, mike smiths and brian elliotts. Too bad the sens couldn't have got in on that goalie carousel.

3.) 11 Feb 2018 00:44:14
Interesting . However. Sens Just offered him an extention so i don't think they're planning on trading him. Also i wouldn't love taking back back Halak if we're only getting a 2nd. but Andy would definitly help NYI.

4.) 11 Feb 2018 03:01:41
Thanks for the responses. I think Anderson has enough left in the tank to make a playoff run and he has 1 more year left I believe. I understand Hoff but Halak is a UFA so they don’t have to keep him. Maybe Halak and a 1st would be more appropriate? I didn’t look to see other UFA goalies this year but the money they save on Anderson could get a good goalie as well, plus the pick for a rebuild.

5.) 11 Feb 2018 14:05:47
Ottawa wouldn't want halak.

Maybe replace halak with Michael dal Cole. sure he looks like a bust now but maybe he just needs a change of scenery and ottawa might do it for him. i'd sooner take my chances on him than halak.



07 Jan 2018 20:19:41
I posted similar proposals a while back and got mixed reviews. With the position the Oilers are in I think the Leafs/Oilers could help each other. I'd really like to see the leafs have some more grit, especially if they make the playoffs. The Oilers could use more speed and talented wingers.

Kapanen, 2nd for Nurse?
Kapanen, Gardiner for Nurse, 3rd?

Are either of these fair? Oiler fans have said there is a lot of depth on LD, maybe they could give up Nurse to bring in Kapanen. In the 2nd trade they replace Nurse with a mobile defenseman and add Kapanen. I know the leafs are looking for a RH defenseman but IMO this will improve their team while waiting for Liljegren to develop.


1.) 07 Jan 2018 20:24:24
I mean if I had to choose one of the two it would clearly be the second one where Edmonton gets back Gardiner and Kapanen, and i'd personally do that in a heartbeat. Nurse is starting to look like a good player lately he’s one of the few bright spots for the oilers this year but I think oilers could benefit more from the way Gardiner plays which is way more offensive. And oilers have terrible prospect pool and Kapanen would be a nice addition with no RW depth.

2.) 07 Jan 2018 20:51:45
Lol. The Oilers aren't trading Nurse right now. If they were it would be in a package for a better D man coming back. Not a few smaller pieces.

3.) 07 Jan 2018 20:57:08
I would call for Chiarelis head if he made one of those trades.

4.) 07 Jan 2018 21:31:45
I’d also expect a better package but if I had to pick of the two for sure the second one imo.

5.) 07 Jan 2018 21:52:16
Yea Oilers gets fleeced.

6.) 07 Jan 2018 22:27:24
I just think Nurse is an immovable asset for the oilers.

7.) 07 Jan 2018 22:55:39
I’ll take Gardiner 10/ 10 times over Nurse but I’d do the 1st deal in a heartbeat.

8.) 08 Jan 2018 00:17:14
Nurse can easily get a better package

9.) 08 Jan 2018 00:54:59
Sorry yup, but Gardiner is not too bad either. I know points don’t mean everything but take a look at them when you get a chance. Call for Chiarelli’s head is a little dramatic like you usually are. Kapanen could skate circles around half of the forwards on your team right now. By the way, you tube Darnell Nurse fights and see if he ever takes the visor off. He fought Reaves, Shaw, Haley all while the other guy didn’t have a visor, with plenty of time to take it off. He must be a d bag like Kadri. No need to be one yourself cause it’s me posting. I could understand not wanting to move Nurse because he is one of your teams few bright spots, but don’t make it sound like he is a Drew Doughty or something. Craig Button had so many wonderful things to say about the Oilers, I thought maybe some speed up front and on defense would help. You’ve made 3 trade rumours in 5 years so tone it down a notch.

10.) 08 Jan 2018 01:13:17
Why do you just reply to me? What's with your small hard on for me man? 5 out of 6 people commented wouldn't trade Nurse for what you proposed. If Kapanen is so great then keep him, If I'm trading Nurse its in a deal that's upgrading him or for a legit top 6 winger. Not Kapanen.
Lmao. You're hilarious man.
I've never once hinted Nurse is like a Doughty, I'm not that stupid. You whine a lot towards me. You entertain me. These deals are terrible for Nurse, you're coming out ahead and you know it. That's why you posted.

11.) 08 Jan 2018 01:14:13
@McJ you changed your tune quite a bit after yup posted. No need to agree with your fearless leader all the time. You and Ebs are usually pretty solid Oiler fans. Maybe my proposal is off but like you originally said, Gardiner’s style of play could be what the Oilers need and Kapanen could be in most teams top 9.

12.) 08 Jan 2018 01:31:35
I think Gardiner is being undervalued here. Yup acting very dramatic and above all as usual.

13.) 08 Jan 2018 03:24:18
Gotta agree with leafs17 on this.

14.) 08 Jan 2018 03:53:28
I don't agree with leafs17

15.) 08 Jan 2018 04:21:48
You’re way off like usual chirp. Flamers and Key habs disagree, no problem. Pavelec thinks Nurse is an immovable piece which I can understand. McJ would take the deal with Gardiner “in a heart beat. ” (Oiler fan no? ) Nylander would take Gardiner over Nurse straight up. Where’s the 5 of 6 people? Are you looking at disagrees cause you should know how that works. Your comments to people are why you have people calling you out on a daily basis, not just myself. I think I explained why I posted the rumour. Toronto needs grit IMO, Oilers need speed. I also said they could help each other. The 2 players offered are good players, even though they wear blue and white. Maybe Edmonton should sit back and watch the season go by? Did you look up Nurse fights? Always a pleasure!

16.) 08 Jan 2018 04:55:52
It's not a rumor! It's your suggestion. Lol
And it's terrible! Nurse isn't available.

17.) 08 Jan 2018 05:06:05
When I commented 5/ 6 McJ, Keyhabs, Pavalec, Flamers and me said this was bad. You and Nylander said is was believable. Sorry, that's 5/ 7 if you include yourself.
5 out of 7 comments at that point said its bad for Edm.

They are decent players, I never said they weren't.
But the Oilers aren't making Nurse available for them. Chierelli would be run out of town instantly for it.

18.) 08 Jan 2018 05:58:15
Read McJ’s original reply again. You like to pick and choose what to read. You call keyhabs delusional on a regular basis but now he’s credible? No offence to him. Anyways, I thought it would help both teams. It’s not like I offered two grizzled veterans. Gardiner puts up respectable #’s every year and Kapanen has shown he can play. Both are young, smooth skaters. Your comment about keeping Kapanen if he’s so good shows you don’t have a clue. Teams trade from a position of strength. Just curious what you think they should do? Go for another 1st overall? There may only be one player on that team not available when Chiarelli is run out of town.

19.) 08 Jan 2018 12:21:20
The proposition is terrible? Well so are the Oilers this year. Every team, when in a state of freefall, will tend to make trades that do not bode well for themselves,

They clearly aren't winning with this core @yup. I haven't seen anyone say Nurse is an immovable asset. Aren't your top two dman Larsson and Klefbom? Why is Nurse so immovable, especially considering the team needs offensive dmen like Gardiner, and skilled forwards like Kapanen. Come on. Nurse isn't a top dman, and he isn't going to be. he's a top4 dman, and honestly, the 2nd deal is pretty fair.

The Oilers need to shakeup. You can't just keep saying no to every Oilers trade.

20.) 08 Jan 2018 14:53:02
Actually Nurse and Larsson I would say are out 1-2, when considering who is available or not. Nurse is 22 and showing signs this year now of becoming what we hope he will. I would say Klefbom is available tho, but in a package with a equal or better RHD coming back not this stuff proposed by Leafs17. Nurse is considered part of the core. I agree we need a shake up, But it's not going to be Nurse. Lol.

No, no these deals aren't fair and they don't make the Oilers better. They aren't giving away 22 year old nurse who is improving big time this year for those pieces. I would say maybe to Klefbom because I think he could be made available, not nurse, for this.
I wouldn't trade Klefbom for this stuff either tbo. Would be in a deal for a better return.

21.) 08 Jan 2018 19:57:23
That’s a more reasonable explanation yup. If you didn’t come out like it was the worst trade suggestion in NHL history, we’d all have some respect for you. Not that you care about that anyways but I was trying to help both our teams needs. Looking back, I think my first proposal should have been Kapanen and a 1st instead for Nurse. The second proposal I still think is fair and so do others. I guess that’s why you and I are not GM’s.

22.) 09 Jan 2018 15:05:52
Oilers say no, gardiners a plug. if kapanen is so great, keep him.



02 Dec 2017 09:07:50
Kane to Edmonton for a 1st (lottery protected). Edmonton needs scoring.

Giroux to Montreal for Galchenyuk, Scherbak & Plekanec. Philly can let Plekanec walk and have cap space and a couple young forwards. Montreal must go all in while Price is in his prime.

Iginla signs in Calgary, just cause

Toronto gets a 3-4 RH d man for Kapanen and a 1st. Leafs don't lose Marner or Nylander and wait for Liljegren to develop. Maybe Tanev, Stone, Braun, Ceci, Schenn, McQuaid, Bogasian? I don't know if any of these guys are available but just a thought.


1.) 02 Dec 2017 11:01:20
I would do Kapanen and a first for Ceci, don't think that Dorion would however. Sadly.

2.) 02 Dec 2017 15:32:13
I don’t think Chucky should be traded.

3.) 02 Dec 2017 17:11:14
what kane? would help if you said what team. if chicago, not even close, if buffalo a bit much.

4.) 02 Dec 2017 18:28:46
Clearly he didn’t mean patty kane but no way I’d give up a 1st for Evander especially since he’s UFA.

5.) 02 Dec 2017 19:06:23
I put Kapanen and a 1st as the trade bait coming from Toronto. All those defense listed have different value and some couldn’t get both from Toronto. Maybe just Kapanen or just the 1st could land one of these guys if their team was out of contention.

6.) 02 Dec 2017 19:15:23
Sorry PKane88, I definitely didn’t mean your buddy.

7.) 03 Dec 2017 10:15:21
If Hanzel and Ladd can get a 1st + as UFA to be at deadline then E. Kane will get more than just a 1st.

8.) 03 Dec 2017 10:15:54
I would give just a 1st for Neal or E. Kane any day of the week.



24 Nov 2017 05:33:34
The leafs could use a physical d man that will fight like Nurse. I'm not trying to low ball anyone, just wondering if these teams could help each other.

Nurse for Gardiner & Kapanen? Edmonton gets a puck moving defense man having an off year points wise but has been much better offensively. Gardiner is 5 years older. Kapanen could add some scoring depth.

Nurse for JVR & Kapanen? Maybe JVR can be resigned.

Nurse for JVR & Gardiner?

Any of these close?


1.) 24 Nov 2017 05:46:27
If oilers were offered either of those trades I’d hope Chiarelli would take it. Don’t get me wrong I like nurse and he’s progressed well in his game for the most part and playing well this season, but having a proven dman to replace him and another skilled forward would be a great deal for Edmonton.
But would Toronto be willing to give that up for Nurse?

2.) 24 Nov 2017 14:20:36
I don't think this works for Tor. they are looking to solidify their top 4D and giving one away still leaves a hole in their line up.

3.) 24 Nov 2017 22:14:09
Nurse is an interesting piece but gardiner is a top 4 Dman that Babcock likes. Can’t guarantee that with nurse. I would say no from leafs on both of them. Only reason to move one of the 3 top 4 Dman (Rielly, Gardiner or zaitsev) leafs have is if it’s in a package for a far better D. Otherwise it’s a lateral move, but getting a bit younger like Turkey said. Not worth losing kapanen or JVR for that.

4.) 25 Nov 2017 07:42:45
Thanks for the comment. I liked the Gardiner and Kapanen one the best myself. Kapanen is a good top 9 forward and Gardiner would likely help add some offense from the defense. Nurse being so much younger is why I put Kapanen in there. Who knows, maybe a speedy winger like Kapanen will fit with McDavid instead of Maroon. I’d just like Nurse in the leafs line up to add to their toughness. Other than Martin, the leafs don’t have anyone.




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22 Feb 2018 03:12:52
A few teams looking into Letestu, including the leafs. I would like him over Glendening for sure. I would really like Zach Smith but I don't know the asking price. He is physical and good on the PK in case Komarov leaves in the off season. I'm guessing Smith is worth a 2nd at most because of his contract, maybe a 3rd. Would Martin & a 2nd be fair? Ottawa saves almost $1m and Martin's term is 1 year less, plus the 2nd. Just asking, I haven't heard much about Smith other than he is available.


1.) 22 Feb 2018 07:41:35
Im not too sure how to value smith leafs17, to me i like what he brings to the team because of his speed and grit. He isn't a finesse player by any means, but he has the footspeed to keep up with todays game and aggressively check the other teams star players. He blocks shots, kills penalties and is a tough s. o. b to move infront of the opposing teams net. He's versitile, plays center but if you throw him on the wing he won't complain. I've heard others on here say he's a cap dump which is laughable, he's 29 years old with a 3.25 cap hit for 3 more years. Seems fair to me
Again i really don't know his value, but for what its worth may as well keep him unless its a ridiculous offer

Maybe pair him up with bobby and see what they can get? Lol.

2.) 22 Feb 2018 11:13:48
Thanks facelift. I do like what he brings to the table and that’s what Toronto needs. Martin is not as good as Smith in most of those categories but is still a serviceable player. The leafs need a center and Martin can’t provide that. I think the leafs will lean toward Letestu or Glendening but I’m still looking for grit.



16 Feb 2018 09:48:40
This is a little unrealistic but anyways. The Bruins are rumoured to be interested in Maroon. If that fails, what if they brought back Lucic? They have Beleskey playing in the minors at 3.8 million. Lucic & Beleskey are the same age, both on bad contracts. I would propose a one for one deal. Boston gets the superior player but take on more money & term. As a leaf fan I would hate to see Lucic back in Boston. However, the Bruins are back in cup mode so why not bring back a familiar face?


1.) 16 Feb 2018 15:12:40
If oilers believed that they’re in a few year lull, then maybe take the lesser player and save money. But they don’t. They feel like this was a really down year and will bounce right back. Therefore they would rather have lucic be part of that than have Beleskey.

2.) 16 Feb 2018 20:51:13
Good point Jim. I thought with the money they saved from the Lucic deal they could improve elsewhere and get more of a balance between speed and grit.



21 Jan 2018 02:04:22
The leafs look like the leafs of old, hard to watch. Unfortunately, I don't think Babcock cares about toughness but what would it take to get Maroon if the oilers are sellers? Is Kapanen too much or too little for a UFA? I think Kapanen could be another good option on the wing for Edmonton, somewhere in the top 9.


1.) 21 Jan 2018 06:29:28
I think Edmonton should try and resign him and let Kassian go. There were talks that Edmonton might sell all UFa’s.

2.) 21 Jan 2018 06:57:04
All UFAs. That's Maroon, because they want to upgrade his spot Mcdavids wing and don't see a fit anymore.
Letestu and Cammileri.

Your fellow Leafers on here think Kapanen is a top six winger on the Leafs now but for some reason (waivers Lol) isn't in the lineup. But he's worth a UFA to you. That's drastic.
I'm hoping for a 2nd for Maroon, i'd take Kapanen for him, sure.

3.) 21 Jan 2018 07:53:59
I knew some how this would get you going chirp. When I ask in my proposal is it too much or too little, it means I’m not a GM. If the Oilers were a competitive team things would be different. You seem to think Kapanen can’t crack the leafs line up but there’s something called balance that Babcock seems to like. Your team likes a bunch of guys that can’t skate but are tough. I thought balancing things out for both teams would be good but you know best.

4.) 21 Jan 2018 07:56:37
By the way, they don’t see a fit anymore because nothing fits. Get over yourself once again, lol.

5.) 21 Jan 2018 09:34:34
OMG is yup the old Chirp? Wondered where he went, Hi Chirp!

6.) 21 Jan 2018 11:57:44
Who would Maroon knock out of your lineup, what line do you want him for?

7.) 21 Jan 2018 12:03:43
Hyman Mathews Nylander
Marleau Kadri Komarov
JVR Bozak Brown
Martin Gauthier Marner

I guess I just don't see the fit for Maroon.
I would say you need to trade for a RHD at this deadline, not a winger.

8.) 21 Jan 2018 17:53:31
You’re absolutely right about a defenseman, I just think the leafs are too soft when it comes to playoff hockey. I’m not sure who’s place Maroon would take but he’s much better than Gauthier. Marleau can play Center, although he prefers wing. Komarov has taken many draws, maybe he could be 4th line Center/ penalty killer. I didn’t say it was a perfect fit but I’m always looking to make the leafs tougher to play against. Believe it or not, I don’t make leaf/ Oiler proposals to stir sh*t up. I think the leafs are soft and the oilers are slow. They can help each other IMO.

9.) 21 Jan 2018 18:04:08
You say you’re hoping for a 2nd for Maroon, Kapanen was a 1st rounder and has already had some NHL playing time. I would think Edmonton would want to win now and not wait to see if a 2nd round pick develops. I don’t think Kapanen is a superstar by any means but if he’s not traded, he will be in the leafs top 9 next year. Unless of course all the leafs UFA’s resign, which I doubt.

10.) 21 Jan 2018 18:13:20
Cool, Without a roster winger going the other way i'm not sure the fit. And I basically said you're over valuing Maroon and that Toronto shouldn't trade Kapanen for Maroon in my first comment. Lol. And I should get over myself. 🍻.

11.) 21 Jan 2018 18:22:48
Sorry, I thought you were saying that Toronto wasn’t offering enough. That’s why I ask though.



11 Jan 2018 02:05:58
What is MacKenzie doing saying the 1st round is set for Boston/Toronto? There is half a season left. I could see if there was 20 games to go.


1.) 11 Jan 2018 03:38:34
Unless Toronto goes into a tailspin (which they are prone to do) . It is set. I don't think Florida can catch them. So Toronto will open the playoffs in Boston.

2.) 11 Jan 2018 03:54:24
With the way the Atlantic is shaping up it's almost obvious the Leafs and Bruins are going to meet. Tampa's running away with the division, Ottawa and Buffalo have been dog rubbish this year, Detroit and Florida are meh, and Habs can't score unless it's against the Canucks.

3.) 11 Jan 2018 04:36:14
Umm. . It's January 10th. Nothing is set. ya I doubt my Habs are in., at this point Kinda want them to finish last overall and have best odds at 1st overall.
Teams can go on horrendous losing skids, unbelievable winning streaks, so until the trade deadline, it's to early to tell who is going to finish where.

4.) 11 Jan 2018 06:25:23
Thank you Sosa. Way too early when the leafs are in the conversation. I know they’re a different team now but I’ve seen way too many late season collapses. Any team but Buffalo can catch Toronto or Boston.

5.) 11 Jan 2018 16:16:23
Leafs17, think you can add my Habs to that list as well. Lol.
I think your Leafs are the real deal, as long as the young kids can keep there composure, they will be fine. my sleeper in the Atlantic is Florida., That's the team that could push Bos/ Leafs.



03 Jan 2018 19:48:22
No comments on Maroons hit yap? I'm sure if that had been Kadri we'd be hearing about it.


1.) 03 Jan 2018 21:08:20
I’m not comparing Maroon to Kadri at all. Kadri is often looking for a cheap hit and rarely fights back. Just curious as to how you fail to mention when an Oiler takes a run at an unsuspecting player?

2.) 03 Jan 2018 21:44:18
Hey buddy. How are your feelings today? You seem to want some attention. I'll give in.

3.) 03 Jan 2018 21:58:04
Just your opinion on the hit would do?

4.) 04 Jan 2018 05:21:21
Hey yup.

Also, from the play Drew Doughty made the wrong move. Instead of trying to put his shoulder down and absorb the hit (correct move) he moved everything out of the way except his head.




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22 Feb 2018 11:40:25
Looking forward to hearing from FT4A.




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22 Feb 2018 11:35:01
Only if he is extended does he get that much John Rambo. Especially if you’re sending dead weight with him to Tampa.




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22 Feb 2018 00:17:58
Thanks Ebs. I think Faulk and Hopkins could be a one for one similar to Johansen and Jones. Maybe a small add somewhere. I do believe that Draisaitl has what it takes to bring in a top defenseman, top 6 forward and possibly more. You’re right about a Hopkins deal being more realistic but it doesn’t solve the winger issue. However, trading Draisaitl would hurt too much I’m guessing. I wouldn’t want to see him go if he was on my team.




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21 Feb 2018 21:34:41
McJ and Ebs, please disregard any negative comments I make towards the oilers. I do like Edmonton and you guys seem ok. I really don’t think the Oilers should trade Draisaitl but they should be listening to every offer. Is there a package from Carolina you would accept?




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21 Feb 2018 20:03:23
Sorry oil fans. Trying to make your team better but that’s a monumental task. That is yet again a very original reply yup. FT4A, there is no crew in this league that could fetch an Oiler player is there? I guess you guys stick with 3 good centers and nothing else. Good luck with the tank job chirp.





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I think that was a terrible deal by the lightning. Gudas, a 1st & 3rd for a 30 year old average d man. They could have had Polak for Gudas alone. Polak was the 1st name that I could think of, but there had to have been better options for cheaper. Personally, I hope the leafs keep Polak.




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@steamer do you understand that it doesn't go against Toronto's cap? Big difference. The owners are paying, they owe us one. They'll probably raise ticket prices to get their money back.




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That's Toronto for you. I think they should have waited too




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Not really