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19 May 2019 20:12:56
Pettersson devils
First overall draft jack Hughes Canucks

Jets 2020 first round pick, tanev and a 3rd in 2019

Canucks trouba

19 May 2019 22:25:49
Tanev is an UFA so he's a no go but the Jets would have to add Trouba plus and I still don't think this trade is enough from the Jets.

19 May 2019 23:28:51
Rather have Petterson.

19 May 2019 23:54:12
Sorry, that would be a no from Winnipeg on the Trouba trade.

20 May 2019 14:13:33
These trades were awful the first time you posted it, they still aren’t good now.

Pettersson is a phenomenal budding player and there is ZERO guarantee Hughes will be better, the Canucks have absolutely no reason to do this.

The Trouba trade is pretty good, Tanev is a still a great defenseman, the injuries just lower his value. If he can get on a better team like WPG where he’ll have to block less shots than his injuries will likely fall too. The first and third are nice extra value.

19 May 2019 15:25:24
Canucks first overall pick select Jack hughes
Devils Petterson

Canucks Seasbrook and 3rd overall draft byram

Hawks 10th overall pick Diepetro

Jets 2020 first rd pick, tanev and goldobin

canucks trouba

19 May 2019 16:20:42
Jets wouldn't do this trade.

19 May 2019 17:34:55
No thanks from Winnipeg.

19 May 2019 20:22:48
God no from Vancouver on the first one, Petey is a special player and there is ZERO guarantee Hughes will be better.

Again, a huge no from Vancouver, Seabrooks contract is even worse than Eriksson’s considering age, and his extended length and AAV.

As for the third one? Idk. Jets fans on here are pretty delusional in regards to what Trouba is worth considering he’s most likely going to leave as an RFA, and unless he guarantees that he’ll sign for a reasonable price with whatever team WPG trades his rights too, no one is going to want him.

I think he’ll get a replacement defensemen and either a first or a lower pick and a decent prospect. He definitely isn’t going to get the king’s ransom that Jets fans on here think he will.

19 May 2019 02:55:15
to Vancouver
Malkin

to Pittsburgh
Juolevi
Virtanen
2nd 2019
4th 2019

Pittsburgh is becoming increasingly depleted and could use some assets. I don't think this trade happens if Malkin is still in his prime but he's starting to slow down and Vancouver really wouldn't know which version of him they'd be getting. If he's washed this is a steal for pittsburgh, but if he's still got a lot in the tank this would lift Vancouver way up as far as the Pacific Division is concerned.

19 May 2019 06:32:27
I’m sure Pittsburg will want more, and Vancouver won’t want to pay more.

19 May 2019 20:21:09
Worst Malkin proposal ever. A Defenceman heading towards bust, a bust winger who is 22 and his best season was what 25 points? and 2nd and 3rd lol.

20 May 2019 22:19:27
Better players and higher picks need to go back to PIttsburgh.

Boeser instead of Virtanen, Agree Joelevi's a bust and puts a detriment to the deal, and perhaps upping the picks to some 1sts are more realistic.

15 May 2019 15:00:09
Blackhawks trade Brett seabrook and third overall for vancouvers 10th madden, Erickson and rights for tryamkin

16 May 2019 01:33:56
i don't see chicago moving down 7 spots to get rid of seabrook just to get an equally bad contract in erickson? i'm not familiar with madden or tryamkin so not sure how good they are.

16 May 2019 20:26:18
Holy ****, I don’t think Benning would EVER hang up on someone so fast as he would if the Chicago GM offered this. Seabrook makes more money than Eriksson and for two more years than his contract yet you want us to give up the 10th overall pick, Madden AND the right to Tryamkin to do you that favor? Get real, you’re delusional.

Considering how much worse Seabrooks contract is compared to Eriksson, Chicago would have to pay Vancouver to make that swap, not the other way around.

17 May 2019 23:43:36
Tryamkin is a throw in though. No guarantee he's ever back in north america.

17 May 2019 23:44:55
Madden is a tiny person so no guarantee he ever plays nhl, last I seen he's 150 pounds.

17 May 2019 23:55:13
Erickson could be a productive guy playing with toews and kane or debrincat and strome . I really like it but will never happen. Personally would rather have him than Seabrook. They paid Seabrook for what he's done but when he's close to 40 going to be easiest worst contract in the league. going to be a anchor for years. Erickson seems like he's either washed up or needs a change of scenery. I see Erickson being a guy that can reset. sesbròok is done.

15 May 2019 05:56:44
Canucks receive: Lucic, 8th overall

Oilers receive: Erickson, 10th overall

15 May 2019 06:46:35
Seems realistic to me. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Another option would be just to retain both contracts at 50% to make Lucics last year easier to take.

15 May 2019 10:47:00
Yah no way Vancover touches that Erickson can still play on the 3rd line Lucic can’t skate.

15 May 2019 15:38:07
atta boy vb there it is let it out.

16 May 2019 18:04:23
Neither team really benefits from this trade.

16 May 2019 20:30:20
Can we stop with these trades? Eriksson has one year less than Lucic so his value automatically higher even if they both suck, but moving from the 10th to 8th isn’t enough to make up that difference.

Anyone who’s been following the draft and prospects knows that from pick 6-12 is a big “who knows” and any player we might want at 8 could easily fall to 12th, so moving up two spots to get a player we could easily get at 10th is pointless.

17 May 2019 23:31:36
fair trade!

13 May 2019 17:34:00
Rumors that Vancouver trying to dump Erickson contract on Ottawa. Only way this works for Ottawa is

Van : Erickson, 10th overall

Ott : smith, Ceci

Reasoning.

Smith has a significantly smaller contract than Erickson and could benefit from a change of scenery.

Ceci can be looked at in a couple ways.

1 - a top 4 right handed Dman is hard to come by
2 - his contract is up at season's end anyway leaving Vancouver a way out of his contract if they can't agree on a fair contract

And Erickson contract is yet another horrible contract and if Vancouver wants to dump him the will have to give up something good to do it. A 10th overall is a good pick but in a weak draft it won't be a game changer pick. So giving it up won't really hurt Vancouver and next year they'll likely be back in the lottery next year so rather than add me to years 1st and taking the risk it could be lottery they give up their current pick. As it will take a 1st to move a bum on a big contract.

13 May 2019 19:20:53
Dump ster fi-re clap clap, clap-clap-clap

How about instead Ottawa trades their first round pick for. oh wait, never mind.

13 May 2019 19:34:36
Yeah. how about no. We’re not in a dire enough cap situation that we need to dump our first for trash to get rid of Eriksson.

14 May 2019 00:44:05
Ceci is so sucks. He sucks more than my baby boy sucked titties for oh so long that I get jealous. Nobody should trade anything for Ceci.

14 May 2019 04:06:19
Something new from Zamboni every day, lol. Keep it up.

15 May 2019 04:15:24
Erickson by far is the worst peice in this deal sorry to tell you.

15 May 2019 04:27:42
But his dump is not worth the 10th ova. Maybe a decent prospect for that return but not the 10th ova.

15 May 2019 22:16:35
is eriksson the worst piece or smith?

11 May 2019 04:58:39
Pens: Maata, Jack Johnson, 21st overall pick.

Vancouver: Jay Beagle, 2019 2nd.

Pens get rid of one BAD contract (JJ) and one guy who seems to be the odd man out lately but a couple of years ago was a decent defender. Beagle is more for cap.

11 May 2019 11:59:52
Okay, so to "get rid of one bad contract" that has 4 years at 3.25m left, the Penguins give up Maatta and a first rounder, just to get back a bad contract that has 3 years left at 3m? Makes a ton of sense lol.

11 May 2019 14:24:50
I thought Johnsson was 4.25.

11 May 2019 15:27:08
It’s 3.25mil/ season.

12 May 2019 00:34:27
Oh no. This will never do. Pittsburgh must not trade two defense. But who will play defense for them after? Is Leta g so good to play all defense himself?

09 May 2019 18:01:47
Oilers Trades.

#1
EDM: Sutter, Leivo, 2019 1st rp (10th overall)
VAN: Lucic, ($1,500,000 retained)
Russell, 2019 1st rp (8th overall)

#2
EDM: Boedker, 2019 1st rp (CBJ)
OTT: Manning, 2019 1st rp (VAN-10th overall)

#3
EDM: Parayko
STL: Puljujärvi, Benning, Rattie, 2020 2nd rp

#4
EDM: Kapanen, Brown, 2019 4th rp
TOR: Larsson, Khaira

#5
EDM: Barrie
COL: Sekera, Bear, Gambardella


Then Sign;
McElhinney - 2yrs @ $2M per

09 May 2019 18:13:31
I missed additional info on the last trade;
#5
EDM: Barrie
COL: Sekera, Bear, Gambardella,
** Conditional Pick (2020 1st rp if Barrie re-signs or it's a 2021 2nd rp if he doesn't)

09 May 2019 19:15:25
The three that stick out for me are 2,3 and 5. No way from Edmonton that pick has a lot of value. No from St. Louis and no from Colorado.

09 May 2019 20:35:44
Huge Edmonton fan eh? 1st deal is absolutely atrocious Lucic is is unmovable unless 50% retained. But honestly I don’t mind the leafs trade.

09 May 2019 22:33:34
I'd say Russell and Sutter are about even, that makes Lucic and 8 for Leivo and 10. Realistically, I'd think Lucic would drop you back to about 20 in the draft, so I'd think that's a no from Vancouver. Again, I think Eriksson-Lucic is a much closer deal between Van/ Edm.

The Ottawa deal is pretty brutal, dumping Manning isn't worth that, considering Boedker is pretty much a cap dump himself. Definite no from Edmonton.

I don't think that St. Louis deal happens. Its basically Pulj for Parayko. The rest are spares/ scraps, so its realistically a nodice at all from STL.

The Toronto one is intriguing as a Leaf fan, and I've seen rumors of Brown/ Khaira swaps and Kapanen/ Larsson swaps. I don't mind tbh.

The Barrie one is essentially a conditional pick and some pieces for Barrie, cause as much as Bear is solid, Sekera is a pretty big contract dump, so he'd negate a chunk of Bears value. So no from COL imo.

10 May 2019 02:55:56
I can’t even comment on this oh boy lol.

11 May 2019 02:14:24
So many very good trades. We must make all these trades. Except #4. #4 is not good trade for Edmonton. Larsson is very good player. Yes. He is so much worth more than Kapanen.

11 May 2019 18:25:39
Stl asks you politely to lose there number. God awefull trade prop. Bad hips pool party isn't worth parayko skates.

11 May 2019 19:53:56
ottawa gladly accepts! if manning doesn't Crack the top 6, put him on waivers. still would be a great deal for the sens lol.

09 May 2019 10:11:52
Tor: Marleau, Bracco, liljegren and 2019 second round pick

Van: Tanev

Toronto frees up almost 2 million in cap and upgrades their D core. Canucks take back Marleau to bring in veteran leadership for the young guys and does Toronto a favour with the cap and receive a draft pick and 2 good prospects for the rebuild.

09 May 2019 13:26:23
I think you could remove the pick, because dumping Marleau would cost Bracco and I think Tanevs closer to Lilly by himself.

My biggest issue here is, woukd Marleau waive his NMC to go to Vancouver? Highly doubtful. Unless he goes to SJ or does an Oprik-esque move, I think he's going to want to stay put.

10 May 2019 05:47:38
And then Leafs can send Mr Tanev to the Robidas Island? Because he is hurt always Tanev, yes. He did not play so very good this year. Maybe he is not so very good anymore? His broken body cannot play hockey now.

08 May 2019 14:45:06
Jets Canucks 2020 first rd pick and tanev

Canucks trouba

Hawks Eriksson, 10 th pick and a 3rd

Canucks seasbrook 3 rd overall. Select Byram

Seasbrooks contract is a bad but would bring experience of three Stanley cups to the Canucks and Eriksson frees term and money for the hawks

08 May 2019 14:48:03
No thanks from Winnipeg. No interest in Tanev.

08 May 2019 15:56:52
Not a good return for Trouba.

08 May 2019 18:49:33
islandjet, what do you think he is going to get? Everyone knows the situation so I think the return of what jets get is not going to be market value. I think that's plenty for Trouba. Tanev maybe not the right fit but not going to get anymore value wise.

08 May 2019 20:36:49
Shootsmcgee The pundits say that a first pairing, right hand shot d-man who has at least 8 more prime years is worth a great return. I believe to the right team he could be worth a young #1 center or a #2 center plus a #1 draft pick. I could be wrong. I was the person who thought the Jets could get Hayes at the trade deadline for a #2 pick alone, boy was I wrong. Its a guessing game and when a trade happens there will be people who will say both sides overpaid. I've read that Detroit, Philly, Florida, Edmonton and even Toronto would love to have Trouba, but can they give Chevy the return he would want? Time will tell.

08 May 2019 23:33:50
Ya, agreed time will tell and draft would be the best time to trade him but every team knows that he either signs a 1 year contract with Winnipeg and lose him for nothing or trade him this offseason. From what I've heard is he wants to be on the east coast in America so limits teams taking a chance that he might not resign. Really think to get full value is a sign and trade deal. I was thinking islanders would be best bet.

08 May 2019 23:37:29
And Ryan Hartman got a first rounder so trouba should get a 1st rounder and some extra but not sure if it's a high 1st. If can get a top 8 pick + maybe a roster player or good prospect will be the price imo.

07 May 2019 21:29:10
vancouver trades elias petterson and a 3rd to avalanche for nathan mckinnon and a 7th

07 May 2019 22:26:38
Ohh my I love Pettersson definitely one of my favourite players but Vancover would be adding not Colorado Nathen Mackinnon is on way to good of a contract to be traded for anything really. I’d give anyone on the leafs for him. 5.5 mil for a 100 point player. Ridiculous.

07 May 2019 22:47:42
MacKinnon is a top 5 player in the game. he's pretty untouchable. and that contract is the best in the NHL.

07 May 2019 23:17:05
mackinnon is so so so so untouchable its not funny hahah even for petterson. agree with vb and sosa.

08 May 2019 01:00:23
In reality, factoring in contracts, age and everything, MAYBE apart from McDavid, MacKinnons the best value in the game by a mile. You can't go wrong with his contract, production and youth. Pettersons elite, but I don’t think anything comes close to prying MacKinnon out of Colorado tbh.

06 May 2019 04:05:08
Canucks pearson Sutter 3 Rd pick

Nyr shattenkirk Chris Kreider

06 May 2019 13:42:08
Lol Kriender is worth a upper mid 1st and a Young roster player like Dvorak and 14th overall.

06 May 2019 15:24:48
no he is not lol.

07 May 2019 21:16:42
He’d be the best winger on Vancover yes he’s better then Boeser. He’s a top 5 power forward in the game his mix of Size, speed and shot is only matched by Wheeler. He’s a PPG player with Pettersson and Boeser. Kriender can drive a line by him self and go end to end with ease.

07 May 2019 21:21:50
Thata is bad for NYR but vbbbvvbb hahahaha lolllllllll kreider isn't worth a young player plus a mid first. He's 29 and has 1 year left on his deal.

05 May 2019 20:55:21
Let the holland era begin
To van: Milan lucic(33% retained)
To EDM: Brandon sutter

To wpg RNH, Jesse p, 2019 1st
To EDM Jacob trouba (agreement to sign), Kyle Conor

To tor Adam Larson, kharia
To EDM kasperi kappanen

To NYR Matt Benning, 2020 2nd
To EDM namestinkov

05 May 2019 22:36:42
There is no reason for Winnipeg to do this lopsided trade.

05 May 2019 22:49:17
No thanks from Winnipeg.

05 May 2019 23:18:08
Sorry got Conor and Ehlers mixed up. Swap the two.

05 May 2019 23:41:29
Very good. I love these trades. ❤️ Who could not, yes? We must make every one of these trades. And then Edmonton will win the cup, yes. I am sure of it. The other teams must understand. They suck compared to the great Edmonton Oilers. For we are the best. Yes. It is so very true. Mr. Weasel understands very good, yes. I like this trade very much. It is very good trade. Very good.

05 May 2019 23:50:52
Wtf are you on? Namestnikov gets more, Trouba & Connor get more. For the other idk

06 May 2019 02:24:31
Yeah that’s a fat no from Van. You want us to take a Lucic? You retain half his salary and you take Eriksson. Lucic is so far in the negative value that it’s not funny.

06 May 2019 04:32:35
Lol because Eriksson is so much better.

06 May 2019 08:11:49
I would rather keep lucic than have Eriksson.
Both players are 4th line players and atleast lucic donat play like a girl


Why would oilers retain cap? Lucic is younger and can bounce back in another team? Eriksson is worse.

06 May 2019 08:18:15
Is everyone high? RnH and trouba = same value and ehlers won't get you both jesse and 1st round pick (krebs/ dach)

07 May 2019 07:02:15
Lucid has a NVM, so Canucks couldn't send him to minors, plus he has to be protected in the expansion draft, good luck moving that guy.

07 May 2019 16:21:21
lucic will easily waive his nmc he is obviously not going to be picked up by seattle give me a break lol.

07 May 2019 21:13:01
is trouba that big of an upgrade to get rid of larsson after?

08 May 2019 13:17:01
big no not fair enough trade.

02 May 2019 08:30:30
Canucks tanev 1 Rd pick 3 Rd pick

Tor nylander Tor 1 Rd pick

02 May 2019 16:08:14
Take out the picks going to Toronto.

28 Apr 2019 23:51:37
Canucks trade: Tanev, baertschi

Oilers trade: Lucic, Benning, 1st round pick 2019 8th overall


Canucks then draft Caufield and Krebs


Leivo Petterson Boeser
Krebs Horvat Caufield
Grandlund Gaudette Virtanen

Hughes Woo
Juolevi Benning
Hutton Stetcher

Demko
Dipietro

Would be a nice future and I'd love that second line

27 Apr 2019 23:31:27
to Vancouver
Killorn

to Tampa
3rd.

28 Apr 2019 02:57:48
If they need to shed cap 🤷🏼‍♂️.

29 Apr 2019 01:21:51
Good trade.

29 Apr 2019 01:25:59
Oh no. Dear me. My goodness. But this would never do. Is Tampa GM so silly he should do this? I do not understand why Tampa would make so silly. To save for cap space? I think they maybe have better solution than to give away a very good player like Killorn.

13 Apr 2019 18:31:12
Canucks trade: Tanev, Leivo

Oilers trade: Benning, Lucic, 1st round pick (8th overall)

Canucks get #8 and #10

13 Apr 2019 19:27:41
That’s interesting.

13 Apr 2019 19:36:26
Oilers don't include benning then or oilers do not make that.

13 Apr 2019 20:32:01
Honestly, that’s pretty good. The Canucks have enough top 6 defensemen though so maybe take out Benning and Leivo, make it just Tanev for Lucic and the 1st? Or maybe keep Leivo in, idk.

13 Apr 2019 21:12:35
I do not understand. Top 6 defensemen? But there are only six. How can there be a top 6 or a bottom 6?

13 Apr 2019 23:20:18
Top six as in the 3rd pairing, just as top four means the second pairing and top 2 refers to the first pairing. I don’t know why you’re on a hockey site if you don’t even understand basic terminology like that.

14 Apr 2019 02:16:13
Zamboni is English your first language.

14 Apr 2019 14:19:53
That’s not even enough to dump Lucic. Lucic carry’s the biggest negative value in the game.

15 Apr 2019 15:03:57
Vertius you don't have to be rude like that he was just asking a question maybe he sees he differently and that's fine. Try to keep it positive.

15 Apr 2019 14:59:57
It doesn’t not matter Mr. McSmartyPants if English is my first language. No. Saying Top 6 defenseman is like saying top 12 forward. It does not make sense. Top means the best, a few select players off the entire team. Saying top 6 means the best 6, which is all the defensemen on the team. Of course he is top 6. All defensemen playing on the team are top 6, yes. He does not make sense. I understand English very good.

15 Apr 2019 21:56:28
You understand very good yes.

16 Apr 2019 13:21:45
Veritus, I have been following hockey since 1970 and never have I heard of the defense being refered to as top 6.
Also as a long suffering Canucks, who are these "Top 6" defensemen that you say the Canucks have?

16 Apr 2019 15:40:02
I agree with Zamboni. never heard of the term top 6 when it comes to defensive lines. always referenced pairings. Also, English may not be his first language, but we understand everything he is discussing and it is a hell of a lot better than my second language. I believe he has mentioned he is in Europe but follows the NHL and primarily the Oilers.

16 Apr 2019 20:53:25
Just like you can understand what he’s saying, he can understand what he meant by top 6 D. Bit of a weird term but I’ve definitely heard it. Let it slide man.

16 Apr 2019 23:55:43
Jeez, should I draw a picture for you all?

D1-D2 = Top 2 defenseman/ pairing 1
D3-D4 = Top 4 defenseman/ pairing 2
D5-D6 = Top 6 Defenseman/ pairing 3

I mean come on, this really isn’t that hard. Instead of talking about ‘how long you’ve been following hockey’ for Renidrag or ‘how good your English is’ Zamboni - which I hate to break it to you, isn’t good at all - you both should try actually listening to some games cause clearly you don’t know as much as you think you do if you don’t even know basic terms like that.

17 Apr 2019 08:19:28
My 2 cents, you could say top 6 defenseman because that means he's in the lineup. He could of said 7th defenseman would mean watching from the press box most nights waiting for injuries.

13 Apr 2019 04:21:30
Montreal trades: Armia, Brook

Vancouver trades: Leivo, Hutton, 4th round pick 2019

13 Apr 2019 05:09:24
No thanks from Vancouver.

13 Apr 2019 05:28:06
A huge no thanks from Montreal.

13 Apr 2019 16:13:32
No thanks. I'm think Armia Is going to be a solid player, as well Brook had top 4 potential.

13 Apr 2019 18:13:10
No thanks from Vancouver? Are you that biased? Vancouver runs with that and never looks back. Mtl says no. Even if you had Juolevi from Van mtl still says no.

13 Apr 2019 20:37:36
Biased? No. I just know a bad deal when I see it, Armia is a 3rd liner at best which is what Leivo already is, and Brook is a top6 defenseman at best, exactly what Hutton already is. No thanks.

13 Apr 2019 21:16:03
But all defensemen are top 6, yes? Where in the top 6 are these guys going to play? I believe is bad trade for Montreal. Armia and Brook are better players, yes.

13 Apr 2019 22:43:59
Zamboni, the defensemen are generally ranked
Top 2
Top 4
Top 6


So a top 6 is usually a bottom pairing defenseman.

14 Apr 2019 05:30:35
In zamboni defence I always called it top pair, 2nd pair and bottom pair when talking about defence men. Not top 6.

14 Apr 2019 16:10:34
Hopefully a team doesn't dress 7 Dmen. or we have a real issue.

15 Apr 2019 03:44:40
Yes Sosa then they all become top 7 Dmenlol.

15 Apr 2019 15:05:25
Armia would be top 6 in Vancouver.

15 Apr 2019 15:08:11
Yes, Mr. Habby. You understand very good what I mean. Defensemen are list 1/ 2;3/ 4;5/ 6. Is top 2 is 1/ 2. Is top 4 is 1/ 2 and 3/ 4. Is top 6 is 1/ 2&3/ 4&5/ 6. Is all defensemen. Top 2 is only the first line. Top 6 is everyone. I do not understand Mr Vertius and his language. How can he use top 6 for only the bottom pairing? No. It does not make sense. It is not me. No. My English is very good, yes.

13 Apr 2019 01:37:31
Canucks trade: 1st rounder 2019, Baertschi, Leivo, Juolevi, Goldobin, 2nd round pick 2020


Devils trade: 1st overall 2019, Coleman


Anything for Hughes Pettersson Boeser line

13 Apr 2019 03:10:25
Not even close it’s be Horvat/ Boeser And the 1st+.

13 Apr 2019 03:13:16
Aren't all three of those guys natural centers? Anyway no way the top 2 picks get traded. They should be franchise players. Think youd have to start with 2 1st roundersand add from there.

03 Apr 2019 04:33:57
Hurricanes trade: Ferland, Fox

Canucks trade: 1st round pick 2019!

03 Apr 2019 05:23:34
No from Vancouver. Ferland will want too much for an extension and I don’t know enough about Fox to trade him for a lottery pick. Not to mention Fox is an RFA in the off-season, no guarantee he signs with us. Definitely not worth a first.

03 Apr 2019 17:43:51
If I was a GM of a lottery pick team, I'd never trade a 1st. maybe once the draw has been done. then ya know your value.
Even a team you forecast struggling a couple seasons. in a rebuild. wouldn't trade a 1st. look at Sens. going to miss really good chance at 2 highly talented players.

04 Apr 2019 15:31:19
So basically two UFAs for a 1st?

08 Apr 2019 10:09:20
Vancouver picks in top 5.
Ferland is UFA
And Fox another UFA is refusing to sign in Carolina after remaining unsigned by Calgary. Fox won't leave Harvard until he can sign with the NYR.

 
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