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27 Feb 2023 18:50:07
Colorado: Alex Newhook, Sam Girard and 1st 2023
Winnipeg: PLD ( resigned @ 8x 8.5 )
Colorado- PLD will likely sign on a true cup contender and he brings in the player that fills there biggest need.
Winnipeg- moves a player who doesn't want to resign while getting a replacement for 2c who's only 21, a upgrade on the 2nd pairing and 1st.
Note: while Jets fans will probably are gonna come in here and remind me that their left side is stacked and Girard isn't needed A. He is a upgrade on Dillon/Schmitd B. Colorado would need to send back cap and he's the most logical choice C. not a lot of relevant RHD are avaible league wide.
1.) 27 Feb 2023 20:39:44
Colorado's cap issues are their cap issues not Winnipeg's. Girard isn't needed and isn't an upgrade on anything Winnipeg currently has as his only value is offensively and Morrissey is better.
There's also little to no chance the Jets trade PLD in division without Colorado paying the in division tax.
2.) 28 Feb 2023 02:17:42
Girard isn’t a pure offensive player. Although he isn’t big he is very effective on the rush and is good positionally. Like I said he’d be the Jets 2nd best LHD.
@Memarcus- I’d love to see why you think Schmitd and Dillon are better then Girard?
3.) 28 Feb 2023 03:18:26
Dillon is far better defensively, big and physical, which is what the Jets need.
The Jets have Morrissey, Dillon and Samberg on the left side. There's no room or cap space for Girard. Plus the Jets defense is small as it is, they don't need to get smaller.
Girard is too small, not good enough defensively and too expensive. The Jets need to clear some money from their defense and add it elsewhere, not add more cap to the defense.
Newhook and the first are nice, but the Jets may not be sold on Newhook anymore with his struggles this year.
I think more than likely if they move PLD it will be back out east. You'd think Colorado would have to blow the Jets away with an offer for Winnipeg to trade him in division.
21 Feb 2023 16:32:49
Boston: 1st round pick 2023, Mike Rielly and 3rd 2024
Columbus: Gavrikov ( 50% retained ) and Nyquist ( LTIR until Playoffs)
The bruins add a top 4 dman and get out of the Rielly contract. Come playoff time Nyquist can add bottom 6 scoring while not being to bad defensively. The trade breaks down to 1st for Gravikov and 3rd/Rielly for Nyquist
1.) 21 Feb 2023 21:14:42
- I think you have a conversation-starter here for the teams to build on.
- Rielly only got in 10 games this year and has one more season at 1.875M.
- CLB would want additional compensation for Rielly’s extra year.
- there’s probably a fit for this if they drop Rielly, add an agreeable prospect, or make that 3rd a 2nd?.
2.) 22 Feb 2023 00:43:04
Rumour is (until it's confirmed, it's still a rumour) that the trade is a first and a third for Gavrikov. To facilitate this trade, the Bruins are trying to trade Craig Smith. Google Gavrikov, Boston Bruins, and it's everywhere.
21 Feb 2023 16:27:47
Just curious guys everyone says it is absolutely imperative for the leafs to improve the defence but who would be a upgrade on any of the current guys in the leafs top 6?
Rielly-Brodie
Girodano-Lilijgren
Sandin-Holl
Benn/Mete-Timmons
Lilijgren has been so good in his roll I am very happy at where he is. Sandin plays a different roll being a 2 way dman who can play pp but maybe not as physical ( still physical tho ) as a dman available like McCabe , Edmonston and Gravkov but he's also younger and aside from Gravkov are those 2 really better?
Holl is the leafs best PKer and there is really no reason he should be moved because as a 6th dman he fills that roll perfectly.
So all in all I see the top 4 as set and none of the available dman beside Gravkov being a upgrade on Sandin ( I guess he could probably push Girodano down ) but is that really worth a 1st?
I just feel like no one actually watches the leafs and say that the defence is the problem. You can upgrade that current core without adding a star and you don't do that by trade you do that through drafting
1.) 21 Feb 2023 19:34:06
I would rather Mayfield instead of Holl and Brodie. He is defensively responsible and plays a more physical game than either.
2.) 21 Feb 2023 19:37:07
The answer is Holl because he is overpaid for what he brings to the table. Great on the PK, but everywhere else. yikes. With his modified NTC however he likely isn't moving. We do need to improve the defense because as it stands right now it is not built for the playoffs.
3.) 21 Feb 2023 20:17:16
Just my opinion, but I feel the Leafs lost some edge when Jake Muzzin was injured. In the playoffs it’s as much about being difficult to play against as it is about skill.
4.) 21 Feb 2023 21:21:02
- I firmly agree with Coulson & Burner.
- I haven’t heard one credible observer who didn’t see the need for one more D, preferably 2.
- like it or not, this group of sweethearts haven’t shown an ability to win at playoff hockey. You have to ask yourself why, then make the necessary changes.
- the deadline is the chance to fill in little gaps or add depth. Dubas mismanaged the rebuild early and often. Whatever happens in the next 2 weeks can’t undo what has been done, but a couple of nasty D would only help. ?.
5.) 22 Feb 2023 04:25:06
@Coulsion- Mayfield isn’t available nor is he better then Brodie
@MG69- Holl is good as a 6th dman who plays 15 min a night. Very good actually but when he is bumped up the lineup he isn’t so good.
@Burner- The penguins, Avalanche and Lightning aren’t exactly the most physical teams but yes Muzzin was underrated when healthy
@Chicken foot- 1st of all Dubas had absolutely nothing to do with the leafs rebuild. Lou Lamerello was the GM and he inherited the roster he built. 2nd of all Lilijgren and Sandin never really played in the playoffs in a extended roll + Girodano only played 1. That’s 3 new dman. The leafs aren’t getting a upgrade on any of there top 4 dman and there is no sense upgrading a 6th dman.
6.) 22 Feb 2023 12:45:46
@vbbbvvbb agree to disagree. Just in the last 5 games Holl has played more than 20mins a game three times, so if his role is a 6th dman than he's being misplayed by our coach. He doesn't play with any sort of aggressiveness and come playoffs gets bullied in every facet of the game. I'd feel much more comfortable looking at acquiring a dman who doesn't play as soft as ice cream on a hot day.
7.) 22 Feb 2023 13:32:35
@vbbbvvbb in fact Holl has played more than 15 minutes a night this entire season.
8.) 22 Feb 2023 15:55:35
VB: we see things VERY differently, and that's okay. I'm certainly not trying to change your mind, but regarding Dubas not being responsible for the current rebuild:
- he's been GM since spring of '18 when they chose him over the Dean of NHL GM's, Lou freakin' Lamoriello.
- 5 years is longer than most people get as GM if they don't achieve some measure of post-season success.
- most fanbases constantly criticize their favourite team's management & coaches. leaf fans are a special breed. Why on earth you would think a GM after 5 years has "nothing to do with the leaf rebuild" is absolutely unfathomable to hockey fans like me.
- this list could go on and on, but to sum up, after generously overpaying in his contract negotiations, Forbes Magazine declared him the "NHL's Most Generous GM" following a poll of NHL Agents.
By overpaying early, tying up half his cap in 4 guys who haven't got it done, Dubas has doomed his team to never being able to finish their rebuild. Depth wins championships. What a waste of a generational pick like Matthews.
15 Feb 2023 18:33:52
Calgary- Mackenzie Weager ( believe it or not there are reports out there that he is available do a quick Google search even with extension) and 1st 2023
Vancouver: Jt Miller
Calgary- Weager has struggled in there System and Miller could potentially help rejuvenate the flames putrid offence.
Vancouver: Weager fills a hole for there biggest meet and they get a 1st while pushing back there window and allowing a retool. Basically Weager replaces what Tanev brought but is healthy.
1.) 15 Feb 2023 19:50:41
I heard the same about Weegar, but at 29 he doesn’t seem like the right fit for a rebuilding team. (Then again, VCR doesn’t seem to know who or what they are, so who knows how if they’re going to rebuild or retool? ) . Your values seem close though.
2.) 15 Feb 2023 20:37:10
Two rival teams in the same division making a trade for players that are so far disappointing on their current teams.
Why would this happen?
3.) 16 Feb 2023 00:41:30
@DrwDave- ever here of a change of scenery? That’s like the most common reason to make a trade not to mention they fill each teams biggest needs.
4.) 16 Feb 2023 02:55:32
no chance they trade Weegar especially for that little to a rival
13 Feb 2023 12:43:58
Edmonton: Tyson Barrie, Kailer Yamamoto, Jesse Pulijujarvi, Philip Broberg, 1st 2024
and 2nd 2023
San Jose: Erik Karlsson ( 3 million retained 8.5 mil cap hit ) and filler contracts
Rumours are Edmonton and San Jose are in discussions for Karlsson but there is troubles salary cap wise. This gives the oilers abit of cap space while bringing in a player who is currently the best offensive dman in the NHL ( this season ).
I'd be terrified of taking a penalty against the oilers. If they make this trade there PP alone will win them games.
1.) 13 Feb 2023 16:06:21
If Broberg isn’t available in a Chychrun trade he shouldn’t be for a Karlsson trade IMO. I’d be okay if the Oil waited another season to revisit the Karlsson talks when his value comes down and contract has one less year on it.
2.) 13 Feb 2023 16:36:00
VB: this is the best post you've ever shared on this site.
EBS: like you, I tend to agree that the younger Chychrun is the better trade target, but there's a lot of rumours out there right now about EK65 to EDM.
3.) 13 Feb 2023 18:06:56
While I agree Chychrun is the more “sensible” target Erik Karlsson is looking like a franchise player this season like he did in Ottawa. Skinner looks good and Jack Campbell has the potential to get hott. There goalies are set for better or worse. There defence would be set after this trade and all they would need is forward depth.
Erik Karlsson “could” put them over the top.
4.) 13 Feb 2023 22:32:18
@vbbbvvbb
Despite being a Flames fan, I have to admire your creativity. And I understand going all in while McDavid and Draisaitl are still there.
Imho, the Sharks would jump on this.
However, I wonder if it isn’t too big a risk for the Oilers? The cost is huge.
There’s no denying Karlsson’s talent, but he has proven to be quite brittle for the last four years, and he’s not getting younger.
And, the Oilers’ skill level is not the problem, it’s their depth, especially on D, and this depletes it further. Who would play in Broberg’s spot?
Don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade, just trying to think objectively.
5.) 14 Feb 2023 17:36:22
I seen a tweet that said Bob Stauffer an Oil insider/ colour guy said the price could be 1st, Bourgault, Bouchard, Barrie, Puljujarvi. That seems insane to me. Lol.
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19 Mar 2023 01:33:30
Hard to believe Danny heatley is only 42 growing up he was my favourite player. It seems like he's been out of the NHL forever. How did he manage to go from a near Ovechkin caliber goal scorer to absolutely atrocious in the span of a few seasons. Did he have the biggest decline in NHL history not including 1 year wonders like Chechoo ( ironically was traded for heatley when I was 9 years old at the time )
1.) 19 Mar 2023 18:35:16
Ya, Dany Heatley was quite the mystery. Looked like a 1st ballot Hall of Famer, then looked like he should be in rhe ECHL.
I wonder if mental health got in the way? I'm speculating that this might be the case. With the car accident of Dan Snyder. Although he put up good numbers in Ottawa after the accident. I also remember hearing rumors of substance/ alchol abuse., however I can't verify those either.
There havs been a few guys that went from Stud to Dud, but his was pretty sudden. Should have scored at least 500 goals and been in the Hall.
28 Feb 2023 18:50:40
Like I said. Told you guys P.Kane wouldn't land a 1st round pick.
1.) 28 Feb 2023 21:33:22
But you also told us Toews was out with the sniffles and would be back in the lineup 2 weeks ago. ?
Still a respectable .500 batting average though.
2.) 28 Feb 2023 21:45:40
Although there are conditions where the 2nd can become a 1st.
3.) 02 Mar 2023 12:48:34
Honestly those conditions are obtainable but they still got to win round 1 then they play against an absolute Juggernaut in the Hurricanes.
I don’t know I feel like the hurricanes beat the Rangers in round 2. It will be a great matchup tho.
24 Feb 2023 05:29:38
I'd be willing to bet money that if P Kane @75% retained is traded he won't return a 2023 1st either a 2nd and a equivalent of another 2nd or a 2024 1st and a few useless players.
28 Jan 2023 01:06:26
Deadline predictions
P.Kane- Returns a similar package to Mantha when he was moved to Washington
Horvat- Traded for a 1st and prospect ( B ) + more contracts potentially
Towes- Traded for a 2nd and a cap dump
O'Rielly/Taresanko-I think they stay but if moved they will return an equivalent to a 1st
Domi- Returns a 2nd or a 3rd
Chychrun- Stays in Arizona
Klingberg- Returns a 3rd
Timo Miere/Erik Karlsson both stay.
Monahan returns a 2nd
1.) 30 Jan 2023 16:54:29
I read Toews salary for this season is only 2.9M so at the deadline it’s like 800K. For a third team to retain 25% of that (200K) it should only cost a mid to low pick. With that being said I could seeing him bringing back a first.
2.) 06 Feb 2023 19:38:39
Well I guessed the Horvat trade right.
15 Dec 2022 12:54:46
Is Nurse the modern day version of early Toronto days Dion Phaneuf? Most overpriced dman in the league is a very good top 4 guy but his price tag makes him extremely overrated?
1.) 15 Dec 2022 13:20:27
He's always been an average 2nd pairing guy at his best. He's had one outlier year offensively, but other than that, average. He's always had the tools, just not the toolbox. It was a pretty huge miss on that contract.
2.) 15 Dec 2022 19:04:46
I dont know about being the modern Phaneuf, but I see your point.
Hes got all the tools to be #1 Dman, but just put it all together. I'd love to have this guy at about 5-6 M per year. But he's way overpaid.
He kinda reminds me of Josh Anderson, obviously different positions, but all the tools, but can't take the next step to being a legit star in the league.
3.) 16 Dec 2022 01:25:09
Josh Anderson is a fair comparison honestly.
4.) 16 Dec 2022 16:35:26
Good post and replies.
5.) 16 Dec 2022 23:46:46
He was a bonafide number one the season he signed his contract. He was a stud defensively and was on a 50 point pace. The GM made a mistake signing him to bridge deals then signing him long term after his best season. Should have either got him at a discount early or waited another season to see if he could repeat his 9M performance. He’s still a 2-3 D, top pair on probably ever team in the league though. I agree considering the cap going up he should have signed for 7-8. He’s been bad but I’m sure he’ll get back his game soon enough.
6.) 17 Dec 2022 02:06:13
I wouldnt even call him bad Ebs, just not worth the 9 million .
When he's on his game, the guy is a force. Love his all around game. ( when he's playing to his ability)
7.) 20 Dec 2022 02:39:13
Definitely agree with all of these points besides him bouncing back to a bonafide number 1 dman. #2-3 dman is a fairer expectation.
19 Mar 2023 01:35:02
Hronek is only 24 and RHD is there biggest need. Chances are that pick won’t be as good as Hronek.
18 Mar 2023 17:49:09
Mostly saying LA doesn’t make sense because they have huge Money allocated to Kopitar and Doughty. Just don’t think Mathews is worth the cap space they’d spend on him compared to the other suggested teams.
18 Mar 2023 17:46:51
The Canucks did not trade there own 1st for Hronek.
16 Mar 2023 21:30:03
Woah Chickenfoot with a not so ridiculous take. I must be in the twilight zone.
16 Mar 2023 18:27:02
LA wouldn’t make sense they have Kopitar, Danault, Byfield, Vilardi, Turcotte, Thomas, Madden down the middle.
I don’t think Arizona makes sense either for what you said. I think if he leaves Dallas, Carolina or Miami is where he goes as a UFA not via trade.
09 Mar 2023 13:05:05
Who cares about heat realistically. I’ll take the extra half of million to pay for Vegas therapy.
08 Mar 2023 19:40:03
Yeah for sure there is term thrown around in unions for the older members “ he served his time and payed his dues” I think that applys to the tenured vets.
07 Mar 2023 01:11:40
Who should’ve they been after?
07 Mar 2023 01:09:34
The way I look at it if you take a discount as a union man to stay at a specific work site you’re a awful person I don’t care if you have family there. unions are meant to make sure people get what they are deserved and aren’t taken advantage of. Taking a discount is bad for the rest of the NHL because it effects the comparable contracts used by management and in term makes others less money. The owners are billionaires. They can afford to pay the players much more then what they’re paying them for the most part.
02 Mar 2023 12:48:34
Honestly those conditions are obtainable but they still got to win round 1 then they play against an absolute Juggernaut in the Hurricanes.
I don’t know I feel like the hurricanes beat the Rangers in round 2. It will be a great matchup tho.