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07 Nov 2022 19:07:08
Montreal: Joshua Roy, 2nd 2023 and 3rd 2024

Columbus: Adam Boqvist

Montreal- Adam Boqvist is a perfect fit on the Canadian weak right side. He is a young PP specialtist who'd instantly step into the 1st PP and has the potential to mold into a Tyson Barrie like player ( in prime ). Boqvist is struggling in torts system but in a creative system like Martin St Louis has has to offer I could see him produce at a 50 Pt pace.

Columbus- Boqvist just isn't a fit in Torts system and is blocked by Werenski and Jiricek. They get back a few decent pieces while giving a redundant player a chance else where.

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1.) 07 Nov 2022 23:12:45
MTL passes and will continue to stockpile ‘23 picks and develop promising talents like Roy.

Also, Columbus is coached by Brad Larsen. John Tortorella coaches Philly. Larsen had a full training camp and preseason with his team and they’re certainly not playing the old Torts system that got him fired.

Cue the meltdown….


2.) 07 Nov 2022 23:51:56
Sorry VB, but Torts is a Flyer.

I dobt think Habs should trade Roy away.
Now if they would want Hoffman, let's do it!


3.) 10 Nov 2022 02:21:32
Ohh crap my bad well it still stands that he is blocked by tons of other players.


 

 

24 Sep 2022 13:10:00
Montreal: Christian Dvorak, Kaiden Guhle and 2024 top 10 protected 1st changes to a 2025 unprotected 1st

Winnipeg: PLD+ cap dump

Montreal gets a very good 2c and Winnipeg gets a solid package for a player who wants to go.

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1.) 24 Sep 2022 13:30:39
Way too much in my opinion. Montreal wants to tank for Bedard and can potentially just sign PLD.


2.) 24 Sep 2022 15:52:39
If PLD doesn't want to sign long term the Jets will trade him to a team he wants to play with, for a better return than this. Winning teams like NYR, LA, Florida, Colorado and Tampa have the type of players they would be willing to trade that the Jets would want in order to get PLD and ability to sign him long term.


3.) 24 Sep 2022 16:44:23
I wouldn't part with Guhle for him. Guhle will be a top pairing Dman in 2 to 3 years.
Habs just acquired Dach, he will hopefully become that number 2C, also with this upcoming draft, maybe they don't get Bedard, but Fantilli would be a good pick, if it Habs are in top 3, which, there is a good chance.
I like PLD, but not enough to give up Guhle. He has the opportunity to be a cornerstone player for the Habs for the next 10 years plus.


4.) 24 Sep 2022 20:44:49
That's a fairly easy no from Winnipeg. Plus Dubois has never said he wants to go.

At this point of the off season, Winnipeg isn't going to trade a top 6 center without having an equivalent top 6 center coming back. Barring that, it would take an exceptional offer to get Winnipeg thinking. A TDL value offer now, doesn't offer any enticement.

Guhle is alright, but as an LD doesn't give Winnipeg anything they need. Dvorak as an expensive, average 3C doesn't add much value and there is less than a 0% chance Winnipeg would agree to wait to until 24 for a protected pick.

All in all the Jets get at least this value at the TDL this year. The extra value of Guhle is more than offset negatively by have to wait 2 drafts for a protected pick.

There's just no logical reason for Winnipeg to consider this. Teams don't trade star players for pieces they don't need or protected picks years in the future.


5.) 24 Sep 2022 20:52:09
Additionally, the Jets wouldn't lower Dubois' value by attaching a cap dump to him. Why would any team do that?


6.) 25 Sep 2022 00:09:28
Easy no from MTL. They’re not trading Guhle OR a 2023 1st for a player who isn’t a difference maker. WPG has zero leverage to demand a package like this. The player clearly isn’t going to re-sign and the other 31 teams know it.

IF MTL wants him, they can sign him in 2 years as a UFA, but who knows if Gorton or Hughes like what he brings, let alone how much he’d want? Just because the player prefers the team doesn’t mean the team wants the player.

I hope WPG gets a good return for the fans to be happy about, but this is pure fantasy.


7.) 28 Sep 2022 14:46:31
MTL turns it down. we can't give up our best D prospect for PLD. Pretty much just echo everything Sosa said.


8.) 25 Oct 2022 11:39:27
This is most stupidest suggestion I saw on this entire site.
PLD for all that ? must be jets fanboy.


 

 

28 Jul 2022 00:45:21
Jason Zucker, Teddy Buleger and 1st 2023 for Johnathan Towes @50% retained

Chicago gets a 1st in a solid draft for a player who is speculated to want out.

Pittsburgh gets a character 3C who is still solid defensively although he has lost a step.

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1.) 28 Jul 2022 14:11:39
I think Toews is more of a deadline trade since no one really knows where his health is at right now.
Teams will have to see him play to know where his value is at.


2.) 28 Jul 2022 15:21:29
Maybe a third team can retain to up his value. Chicago doesn’t need him but to only get a 1st for a guy that has multiple cups and gold medals doesn’t seem worth it to trade. Last season was like the only bad season of his career. Whoever trades for them will be getting a really good player still.


 

 

22 Jul 2022 16:19:10
READ EXPLENATION

NYI- Matt Barzal

Calgary- Mathew Tkachuk, Jusso Valamaki, Jacob Peltier and 2nd 2023

New York- the islanders run a defensive based system which really holds Barzals game back. A player like Tkachuk would thrive in this environment from a off the puck standpoint. Peltier could develop into a solid 2nd line winger aswell.

Calgary- the flames get an elite 1c who would put up 90+ points in a more offensive system signed to a great contract.

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1.) 22 Jul 2022 16:39:30
I usually agree with your takes but this ain’t it man, flames get robbed


2.) 22 Jul 2022 17:02:30
Calgary definitely adds, but I doubt the Islanders would be interested.


3.) 22 Jul 2022 17:11:27
I'll be mad if CGY Trades Tkachuk for Barzal, only roster players I like from NYI are Dobson, Walstrom, Pelech, Sorokin & Mayfield since we currently need 2 RD's

As for Prospects, Aatu Raty, Willaim Dufour & Samuel Bolduc (who we probably don't need given we already have Kuznetsov & Poirier)


4.) 22 Jul 2022 17:52:01
I’m from Saint John and I’ll tell you right now with absolute certainty that Porier and Kuznetzkov will never be NHL players. Porier is lazy and doesn’t even do team workouts. Kuznetzkov peaked young and is absolutely jacked but has like zero skill or hockey sense. Dufour is also pretty lazy. He’s actually literally fat.


5.) 22 Jul 2022 18:20:55
ROFLMAO

NYI can keep their small 60 point center.


6.) 22 Jul 2022 21:16:04
Both the Jets and Flamees will never get fair value for Tkachuk and PLD. However the Flames should get a better return for Tkachuk.


7.) 22 Jul 2022 21:47:31
Calgary fans would rather have Dube and Ruzicka? over Barzal so good luck with this post VB. Lol.


8.) 22 Jul 2022 23:25:47
Dube and Ruzicka combined make less than half of what Barzal makes. Almost a million less than half.

Dube is under contract for 2 more years at which point he's an RFA. Ruzicka is an RFA due for a raise now but it won't be very much. Both players have potential.

I can't speak for other Flames fans but I'd rather keep both players than trade them for a soft player making 7 million/ year who will be RFA next summer. Particularly when considering Calgary should have plenty of cap space to take on pretty much any player available through trade or free agency.


9.) 22 Jul 2022 23:31:17
I agree with islandjet.
Flames fans are forgetting Tkachuk can become a ufa in one season.


10.) 23 Jul 2022 00:50:55
vbbb, you've said that before about Poirier and just like this Trade Proposal, you're "Unbelievable". Jeremie Poirier = Kaidan Guhle

@Ebs, I took the time to write it all out for you, did you read it!? Dube & Ruzicka need less time and talent on their line to score goals and come at 11.5-33% of the cost. Flames will use the $7mil for much better options than Barzal.


11.) 23 Jul 2022 01:09:04
vbbb is nylander, he always trashes the Flames. He thinks Eichel the greatest player ever too.


 

 

09 Jul 2022 01:01:05
Flordia: Sergei Bobrovsky and Anton Lundell

Chicago: Seth Jones

Florida gets out of that awful Bob contact and roles with Knight-Hoaltby tandem. Seth Jones provides the Panthers with an elite Dman to compliment Eklblad.

Chicago gets a goalie to platoon with Mrazek and gets a top end young player for taking that contract.

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1.) 09 Jul 2022 03:10:37
I’d say Florida declines. Jones is almost as bad of a contract as Bob and Lundell is a super skilled player.


2.) 09 Jul 2022 03:32:34
Like ChickenFoot points out in another thread below, I don’t think CHI wants a Goalie who will actually stop the puck. That would only hamper their efforts to win the Connor Bedard Draft Lottery + the Bobrovski contact is way too long and will age very badly soon.


3.) 09 Jul 2022 16:53:33
The only thing maybe stopping Florida is Jones has an extra I think 4 years. But I think it’s a solid trade and both teams go for it.


4.) 09 Jul 2022 23:16:17
I just can’t see it happening from both sides, Jones could bounce back next season so I’d think it wouldn’t be smart to trade him now.


 

 

 

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15 Nov 2022 00:08:43
Sounds like Chychrun will be heading to the leafs before the deadline. With Muzzin on LTIR and out indefinitely the leafs don't need to send cap back. Not sure if this is the right player to be targeting but time will tell.

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1.) 15 Nov 2022 17:16:30
Who/ What do you think the Leafs would need to send that way. I can see them wanting Robertson and more. would you part with Nick Robertson.?


2.) 21 Nov 2022 13:09:59
Not to sure honestly I think I’d be okay parting with one of Robertson or Knies. I don’t think Chychrun helps the leafs at all though I’d rather they target someone else.


 

 

05 Oct 2022 00:36:18
If you guys are building a team thinking long term who do you take between

Rasmus Dahlin and Adam Fox?

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1.) 05 Oct 2022 03:52:03
I think Dahlin. Better all around.


2.) 05 Oct 2022 23:46:04
Agreed.


 

 

02 Oct 2022 14:58:12
Does anyone else see Buffalo being a Bedard and a starting goalie away from being potentially the greatest Dynasty since the Montreal Canadians in the original 6?

Thompson-Berdard-Quinn
Savoie-Cozens-Tuch
Skinner-Mittelstad-Perterka
Krebs-Olfsson-Asplund
Oslund-Rosen

Dahlin-Jokerhariju
Power-Lybushkin
Samuelsson-?

UPL
Comrie

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1.) 02 Oct 2022 22:23:17
I don't see the vision you do. However, there are lots of good peices, as long as they all reach the potential they have.
I think the 80s Oilers are the last team we will see that displayed pure dominance for more than 5 consecutive years. If not for the Steve Smith blunder, I believe they would have beat my Habs and tied for most,
Off topic, but I wonder, if they would have won the 5 in a row, does Gretzky get traded in 88? Or do him and the Oilers go for 6? Lots of what ifs I suppose

Vb, Buffalo does look promising, however, id also say Ottawa can be great as well.
Many teams However are a Bedard and starting goalie away from Greatness.


2.) 04 Oct 2022 22:05:30
That is true but I’m Just eyeing really a D core of Dahlin and Power. In 3-4 years time they could 2 top 5 dman on the same team with potentially a top 5 player in the game in Bedard. You also have Quinn who is looking unreal I could see this guy being a superstar within 2-3 years. Tuch and Thompson are debatably among the top 10-15 PWF in the NHL currently. Peterka, Krebs, Savoie and Cozens are very promising that’s at the very least 2 top 6 players probably one of them becomes elite and I’m looking at Savoie to be that guy. Olfsson and Skinner are what they are and skinner honestly probably hurts more then helps with his contact. Then to put icing on the cake you got two first round forward picks in Oslund and Rosen + even Mittelstad as potential future impact players. The Sabres are in good hands.

But yes the oilers somehow blew past my mind. Pretty hard to beat them. Could see Berdard being Lemieux to Gretzkys McDavid. Quinn=Kurri and Dahlin=Coffee. Obviously they are missing Messier here but when you look at the depth it cancels out imo.


3.) 04 Oct 2022 23:09:18
It's so hard now though VB with the salary cap. I think these exceptional teams have about a 5 year window, maybe a little more. So to be a Dynasty like Edmonton, Montreal, NYI, its almost impossible.
You make good points, and Power and Sandin will be great, as would Bedars. But, when they are all in their prime, that's a minimum of 30 million if they reach potential. so, just so hard.


4.) 05 Oct 2022 00:28:43
I agree with you Sossa 100% the salary cap does hurt things alot.

And let’s hope Sandin will be great lol ;)


5.) 05 Oct 2022 02:52:23
Haha. I screwed that up. haha. No. Dahlin that guy I meant.


 

 

24 Aug 2022 18:53:47
What team will be better next season in your guy's opinion

Ottawa vs Islanders vs Columbus

Atlantic-
Tampa
Toronto
Flordia

Metro-
Rangers
Washington
Carolina

WC-
Pittsburgh
Boston

Those are three bubble playoff teams in the west who are clearly beat out in the stacked east.

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1.) 24 Aug 2022 21:07:30
I think Ottawa makes a run towards the Bruins for the WildCard. The only question for me is in net. Is Talbot capable of being the man for the Sens. All the youth has another year experience. The guys they brought were huge. Didn't see Dorion pulling that off. good off season for them! .


2.) 25 Aug 2022 15:15:16
The bruins brought back all of their key pieces and added Krejic for me they are still a step ahead of Ottawa. Lindholm-McAvoy are one of the best pairings in the league. I’m Ottawa after Chabot their Defence is putrid. Ullmark/ Swayman for me may be the best 1a/ 1b tandem in the league.


3.) 25 Aug 2022 16:36:42
Won't McAvoy and Marchand both be out for quite awhile to begin the season? I think that will hinder them quite a bit. They might have another year of being a decent team, but I think age is starting to catch up. And the guy they brought back, although he was good, is aging as well. They may still be a step above the Sens, but I wouldn't be suprised if Ottawa overtook them. If not this year, probably next year.


 

 

02 Aug 2022 04:58:54
It's hilarious seeing the Devils getting absolutely mutilated in trade offers from Calgary fans. Bratt just broke out and has amazing chemistry with Hughes he won't be moved. If he were it'd take a kings ransom. It's not like he's in Fialas situation where the devils can't afford him.

Also Calgary fans. Lucic has negative value. Would cost a 1st to dump Atleast. Toffoli while a good player holds pretty low value due to no contenders having cap space to take him on. Porier, Kuznetzkov, Ruzinka, etc hold little to no value outside of the organization. For an example the leafs have Hirovinen who is a player I'm personally very excited about captain of Finland at the world junior and put up solid pro numbers in Finland. Like Ruzika he doesn't hold much value outside of the organization. Maybe a 2nd round pick tops. If you want players like Bratt expect to part with Assets like Rasmus Andersson or Atleast a package containing a combination of 1sts, Coronato,and Pelletier.

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1.) 02 Aug 2022 12:55:27
Calgary doesn't want Bratt. The team already has more left shot LW depth than they know what to do with.


2.) 03 Aug 2022 13:03:24
Bratt put up 30pts the previous season…


3.) 03 Aug 2022 14:02:45
In the long run NJ is going to regret trading Zacha instead of keeping him and trading Bratt.


4.) 03 Aug 2022 23:14:43
Zacha isn’t that good…there was talks that he wasn’t going to be qualified. Very overrated player. Bratt broke out this year and he will put up over a PPG next season.


 

 

 

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29 Nov 2022 20:28:30
I’d prefer to hold onto Kerfoot.

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26 Nov 2022 14:07:58
Lol Dumba for Nylander is a joke. Buddy has been trash the past 2 seasons. Nylander is built for playoff hockey and goes off every playoffs like Paul Karyra/ Temmu Selaming did. He gets the Scotty Pippen effect because he plays under Mathews and Marner but honestly I think he’s just as good as them.

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24 Nov 2022 13:27:41
Actually not a bad offer for Nylander.

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22 Nov 2022 13:07:29
I’d take that and run as a leafs fan. Minnesota Wong trade Rossi.

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22 Nov 2022 11:00:05
UPL, Ruistlainen and a 1st for Demko?

Don’t think Canucks move demko.

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21 Nov 2022 13:10:55
Yes Monahan will have value at the deadline for sure.

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21 Nov 2022 13:09:59
Not to sure honestly I think I’d be okay parting with one of Robertson or Knies. I don’t think Chychrun helps the leafs at all though I’d rather they target someone else.

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13 Nov 2022 23:04:34
Yeah I think they are stuck with them for the year.

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05 Nov 2022 03:35:02
Drouin, Hoffman and Dadanov were offered to the capitals and they declined. According to Friedman.

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02 Nov 2022 02:45:45
I always wanted to see Drouin on Colorado I think he could do some damage there.

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