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06 Dec 2023 04:52:49
Edmonton: Jack Campbell, Dylan Holloway, Philip Broberg, 1st 2024 and 2nd 2026

Philly: Future Considerations

Edmonton gains 5 million of cap space and Holloway and Broberg haven't looked great

Philly takes on dead cap that'll last for 7 years post buyout but gets 2 solid prospects and 2 high picks for there rebuild. Holloway is built for flyers hockey.

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1.) 06 Dec 2023 14:40:24
Edmonton's 1st isn't in play without an asset coming back.


2.) 06 Dec 2023 18:27:38
Wow VB………that just might be the worst trade posted on here. ??.


3.) 06 Dec 2023 18:30:14
3.85M in the minors for Campbell. I’d rather keep him down there for another season then think about a buyout over doing this.


4.) 06 Dec 2023 18:30:37
Or pay extra to add Hart.


5.) 08 Dec 2023 00:26:50
In order to get out of the Campbell contract the oilers will need to pay a kings ransom.


6.) 09 Dec 2023 00:01:41
Vb is a bit dense and doesn’t realize worse contracts exist and wouldn’t cost this much to move. Buyouts are an option….


7.) 09 Dec 2023 05:48:34
No team wants 7 years of dead cap via buyout. There is no worse contract. Campbell is literally 5 million of dead cap. He is not a nhl caliber player.


8.) 09 Dec 2023 16:58:55
I agree probably no team would buy him out this offseason. Might have to have him buried in the AHL for another. 3.85M dead cap for another year then a 4 year buyout cost of 1.5M. Straight up it would take a lot to dump but I think taking back a contract would help the cost. Binnington/ Merzlikins maybe.


9.) 10 Dec 2023 03:29:14
Binnington would be the most likely route imo.

Campbell, Broberg and a unprotected 1st 2024 for Binnington.


10.) 11 Dec 2023 08:00:57
Gibson in Anaheim would be sweet too.


 

 

02 Dec 2023 17:23:00
Toronto: Chris Tanev 50% retained

Calgary: Roni Hirovinen, NYI 3rd round pick and Calgarys 5th round pick ( leafs own it )

I believe Tanev will be a leaf by the deadline and I feel like the return will be similar to this. Most will say it's not enough but this is the typical going rate for comparable dman with the flat cap.

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1.) 03 Dec 2023 02:24:39
I think you’re right honestly


2.) 04 Dec 2023 15:29:44
Hirovinen can’t even get the call on a beat up not so good Leaf’s d. No thx on him.


3.) 04 Dec 2023 17:14:12
Well he probably hasn’t got a call up on the leafs d because he’s a centre lol.


4.) 04 Dec 2023 17:23:20
@Nashan you know Hirovienen is a forward right? Based on the cap and what some other players was are fetching, I'd say this will pretty close. Could see potentially a higher pick (not a first) if there becomes a bidding war.


5.) 04 Dec 2023 19:20:19
Thx MG. Must have been looking at one of the Fin defencemen. my bad. Still wouldn’t want him lol.


6.) 04 Dec 2023 20:29:20
@Nasher probably thinking of Niemela or Kokkonen


7.) 04 Dec 2023 20:29:31
@Nashan* oops


 

 

29 Nov 2023 17:55:59
Nashville- Jusso Saros

New Jersey- Vitek Vanecek and Nemec

Nashville- passes the tourch onto Askarov and gets a potential number 1 dman to build around in Nemec.

New Jersey- there goaltending has been awful and with Saros in net they get a top 5 goalie in the league who's still young.

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1.) 01 Dec 2023 01:10:40
You'd have to add a first + for saros.


2.) 01 Dec 2023 01:24:13
Goalies don’t typically hold that kind of value. The most a goalie has ever been traded for was the 9th overall pick in the 2012? NHL draft and he was the 23 year old goalie who surpassed Roberto Loulongo coming off of a Olympic gold medal win as the starter.

Goalies=NFL Kicker of NHL

Nemec a 2nd overall pick last year is enough for Saros imo.


 

 

16 Nov 2023 21:54:01
Lindholm and Tanev both 50% retained.

For

Kulak, McLeod , 2 1sts, 3 2nds, Bourgault, Campbell, Lavoie

Lindholm for 1st and 2nd
Tanev for Kulak, McLeod 2nd
To take Campbell- 1st,2nd, Bourgault, Lavoie

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1.) 16 Nov 2023 23:36:37
wow. that's a lot for 2 UFAs.


2.) 17 Nov 2023 00:26:03
Edmonton also gets out of a awful Campbell contract.


3.) 17 Nov 2023 14:23:43
I guess I would be somewhat surprised if EDM & CGY come together on a major trade.

They’ve made 3 smaller ones in their history, but I think it would be challenging to complete a transformative trade with your provincial rival.


4.) 17 Nov 2023 15:26:46
Campbell and a 1st/ 2nd for Markstrom. Lol same style as the Lucic Neal trade.


5.) 18 Nov 2023 15:31:45
Except Lucic and Neal were serviceable NHLers and Campbell isn’t even a serviceable AHLer. Markstrom is also better then all 3. 4 1sts is the price to dump Campbell.


6.) 19 Nov 2023 15:22:12
No team would ever trade 4 1st over buying him out. Lol.


7.) 19 Nov 2023 17:58:13
No contender wants dead cap space of a buy out his buy out is long enough for rebuilders to cause an issue down the road. Oilers are in a tough spot.


8.) 19 Nov 2023 20:50:48
- Agree with EBS.

- Some rosters just have too many mistakes to fix with trades, buyouts or both.

- A hard cap means there’s less room for error than ever.

- Eventually you get to a point where you can’t fill one hole without creating another.


 

 

12 Sep 2023 20:09:35
Toronto: Nick Robertson

LA: Alex Turcotte

Both have had unfortunate injuries that set back their development. Robertson has produced a little more but Turcotte is a C and has the draft Pedigree. Leafs need C depth and LA needs winger depth.

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1.) 13 Sep 2023 06:13:09
That's actually a pretty fair deal, however I could see the Kings saying no due to how high Turcotte was drafted. Maybe they're willing to be more patient with him but it is a very fair trade.


2.) 18 Sep 2023 18:28:24
They both terribly injury prone but turcotte has always been the much better player. If they both had a change of scenery and were healthy, Toronto would win this trade by a mile.


3.) 19 Sep 2023 18:03:10
Turcotte when he has played post draft year has not looked better then Robertson at all. Turcotte has 0 Points in NHL and awful AHL stats.


4.) 19 Sep 2023 22:47:30
Vbb, I'm gonna say turcotte has his turn this year. how about McMichael from Washington. Robertson and him were neck and neck in ppg in ohl and he hasn't panned out.


 

 

 

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22 Nov 2023 19:30:30
What happened to Matt Dumba? Only 30 and went from a top 4 guy to the absolute worst player in the NHL? I don't even think he'd be good the AHL at this point.

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1.) 24 Nov 2023 23:02:19
Is he really that bad? I honestly haven't seen alot of him. I do remember not so long ago, he was a really good 2 way Dman, capable of highlight reel body checks here and there. How has his game regressed? He can't be worse than Klingberg?


2.) 25 Nov 2023 21:46:55
Klingberg can QB a PP and put up the odd 5 on 5 point at times. Dumba skates like he has cinder blocks on his feet is awful in his own end and stoped producing offence.


 

 

16 Oct 2023 02:56:32
I'm still waiting on Nylander or TJ Brodie to be traded because there's no way the leafs can become cap compliant without it.

Apparently?

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06 Oct 2023 18:29:18
If anyone is wondering how the leafs will be cap compliant to start the season well here it is-

No the leafs won't make a trade.

Connor Timmons, Jake Muzzin and Matt Murray to be placed on IR

Dylan Gambrell to be placed on waivers. Nick Robertson and Holmberg to be sent to AHL.

TJ Brodie and William Nylander will remain leafs

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27 Jul 2023 01:13:56
Don't wanna be that guy but I was the one who said Matt Murray will be put onto LTIR next and was met with a ton of back last. Well I told you all so.

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1.) 27 Jul 2023 03:27:05
Don't be that guy then VB. Congratulations on a good call, but just be humble.


 

 

11 Jul 2023 04:03:35
I think the biggest misconception in the NHL is that Mathew Barzal is a centre. He is stapled as a winger beside Horvat this upcoming season and his max career FOW is only 30 more then William Nylanders career high ( also that was during 2017 Barzals rookie season and ironically Nylanders largest exposure at C )

During that season Nylander was 51% in the dot vs Barzals 43% ( career high 46% )

So in short Barzal is highly overrated but with that being said I think he is a PPG+ player in a offensive system as a winger.

A player who is a winger that pretends to be a C.

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1.) 11 Jul 2023 23:36:18
If the Canucks put bieksa in for one face-off in 82 games and he wins it, does that mean his 100% face-off percentage makes him better than Patrice bergeron?


2.) 12 Jul 2023 16:40:26
Well if you put him out for only over 400 faceoffs like Nylander and he wins all of them then yes it does…….


3.) 13 Jul 2023 07:56:59
Faceoffs are important and 46% stinks, toews best ever at 63.1. Most 1st line centers would be at 53-54 . 46 is bad. that's why some people here have a bad misconception of lindholm. Old toews old kopitar, old Bergeron, they all have the same in common. End of game, 1 goal down and offensive zone f/ o, they there, defensive zone 1 goal up, they're there. That's a true 1st center. 54% or better and even better in bad spots.


 

 

 

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23 Feb 2024 01:06:19
No team wants Dumba. He doesn’t make the avalanche.

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23 Feb 2024 01:05:02
People are going to find a way to spin this and say it’s bad for Ottawa but no way both of these players return a 1st. Taresanko gets a 2nd and Hamonic maybe gets a 4th at the deadline. I’d be shocked if Taresanko returns a 1st.

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22 Feb 2024 01:48:14
Memarcus while I agree that Arizona declines and I may have misinterpreted what you said but to insist that Keller and Schmaltz are better then Marner and Marner would not be the Coyotes best player is a pretty ridiculous notion.

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21 Feb 2024 13:15:55
I like the idea but I think it’s to much from Carolina think you could drop the 1st. Goalies aren’t worth much in trade.

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21 Feb 2024 13:14:02
I actually like those but I don’t think Washington moves Fehravary.

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08 Feb 2024 00:16:21
Bring Russia back then make team europe with each player having there nations flag on jersey then I’d be very into it.

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09 Jan 2024 02:26:29
Tavares will sign a league Minimum 700k deal then they will be fine.

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02 Dec 2023 01:49:03
Zadarov is not good man. Tanev will get a 2nd and a 3rd and Hanfin will get a 1st.

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01 Dec 2023 13:46:20
Dude go google what pending UFAs normally get.

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28 Nov 2023 14:29:44
Gretzkys last game was 2 years before I was born. However looking at he’s seasons in LA to me his pedigree mixed with his performance makes him the greatest. I feel like in 1995 if you wanted one player for a cup run it’d be Gretzky and for me today crosby would be the guy I’d want.

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