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20 Feb 2021 05:04:09
To Pitts
Lucic 13.5
2021 1st
2022 2nd

To calg
Petterson. 13.6

Would u do it

Burkey night


1.) 20 Feb 2021 05:56:38
Gonna get hate but I wouldn’t do it from a Flames perspective, Malkin is 34 and Pettersson isn’t better than Hanifin.

2.) 20 Feb 2021 06:30:52
Yeah Malkin is too old. After next season he's a UFA too.

Besides Lucic has a NTC, I don't see him waiving it unless it's for Vancouver (his hometown) or for the Seattle expansion.

3.) 22 Feb 2021 01:57:06
Hanifin and Tanev usually look like the 2 best players on the flames nightly, after markstrom.



23 Jan 2021 02:28:40
A new team is going to sneak in and grab Dubois

To Columbus

To Colorado

Colorado saved 1.4 on the weird Ian Cole for Greg pateryn deal. A deal that wasn't needed. Or was it?

Colorado isn't tight against cap but has an internal cap they must stay within. Taking a guy who is not fit to play in nutivaara @2.5 is the differance between that 1.4 him and byram make. Coincidental I think not. Byram is the LHD needed to join Columbus. He might actually play with Jones so werenski can go back with savard making a deadly top 4. Byram wins Calder

Jost needs to be replaced by any of the taxi squad on Colorado so his cap hit is covered by them. He gives Colorado a center needed in Dubois leaving

Saad and Dubois make the same and saad is a player torts loves and wished never left. Saad had his best years under Tort.

Foudy joins his bro
Kaut is extra I sent to outbid other teams

This deal needs no 7-14 days to quarantine
This deal is a out of conference trade

With mackinnon out a few weeks it's best time to do deal

Colorado becomes Stanley cup favorites when everyone is healthy

Columbus gets rid of distraction while getting a top LHD prospect ready to play along with a Top 6 bluejacket style player and a depth C along with foudy bro and solid prospect. They also get rid of an unfit cap hit

It all just makes sense here


1.) 23 Jan 2021 03:48:01
Nutivaara is on Florida, so unless I’m missing something this trade can’t be done.

2.) 23 Jan 2021 03:56:26
They will not be shipping Byram. And idk about you but that’s a huge overpayment. Also should do some research Nutivaara plays for Florida lmao so basically :

Saad, Byram, Jost, Foudy and Kaut for Dubois

Lmaoo i'm sorry but please do your research before posting another trade

3.) 23 Jan 2021 10:50:28
I’m sorry for sounding rude @craigger12 I wasn’t trying to

4.) 23 Jan 2021 11:43:24
Nutrivaara is definetly in flirida.

Lmfao I did a few Dubois trades last night then did a barkov trade needing Nut to make differance in cap with that trade. Then I did this trade and for some reason Nut was stuck in my head from previous trade. No rudeness. Kinda funny cause I’m all about research.

Sorry me bad

I still think that Ian Cole 1.4 savings is the start to something much bigger

Just a hunch.

5.) 23 Jan 2021 16:16:17
It’s all good brother. Sorry for sounding rude, good thinking tho. I like how much thought you put into it



03 Oct 2020 14:30:34
To Ottawa
Zach senyshyn
Jakob zboril
Jeremy Lauzon

To Boston
Colin White

Eugene melnyk gets out of Colin whites long contract. Eugene signed him based on potential so it could still work out but with Tierney overtaking white playing time, white becomes expandable.With Tierney, brown and Duclair being Ottawa's 2nd line and all being RFAs Whites 4.5 can be used to help sign each as they will all get 3-4 million.

Great trade getting Brown from Florida for a 4th. Great defensive D partner for chabot. Then Lauzon becomes chabots offensive D partner when needing offence. Gives them more options with Chabot

Zborbil and senyshyn with Debrusk was the Bruins big mid teens draft picks all in same draft to start future of bruins after Bergeron,Marchand and Chara age and retire. Too bad only Debrusk seems to be working.

Zborbil and senyshyn are still young enough to turn things around but for now they seem like busts. Maybe changing teams and playing year full time on Ottawa nhl roster could change their career paths. Worth the risk for a rebuilding Ottawa team

Boston gets a Boston boy to platoon with coyote as 3rd line C with Ritchie as their LWer. Solid 3rd line. Then when krejci contract is up white moves up to 2nd line. He gets to learn from a great vet leadership in Boston and possibly moods into player deserving the money he gets. Long term gain for bruins. If white never plays into his contract no biggy as Boston won't be hurt if his play does. Huge reward if it works down the road. Perfect project for future of the bruins



1.) 04 Oct 2020 12:33:09
Nah ottawa needs whites contract to help hit the cap floor.



29 Sep 2020 23:16:52
Detroit offers 4th overall with veleno
Ottawa 3rd overall pick

Yzerman wants Tim Stutzle as moritz Seider is very tight with tim. So tight he gave Tim great praise to Mannheim's coach and if it wasn't for Stevie Y wanting seider to go to Grand Rapids they'd play all year together. Instead they settled for 2 weeks at Christmas where the 2 were given high praise for how they acted very mature together throughout tournament unlike Fellow German Dominik Bokk who acted very childish and rude to hotel workers(st.louis made good call on that trade).

Anyways Detroit gets their guy and Ottawa gets 4th pick and a former 1st rd2019 in joe veleno..1 pick lower for a good prospect.. not bad

Ottawa drafts drysdale and Sanderson

Future D
Chabot drysdale
Brannstrom thomas
Sanderson Bernard-docker

Best group of young talent possibly ever composed



1.) 30 Sep 2020 11:42:37
While I can agree that Yzerman could be very interested in Stutzle, there is no guarantee that he is there at #3.

Also trading our best C prospect in Veleno is counter productive as that is one of our week points.

Stutzle himself is still considered a potential Winger rather than a Center. Obviously that could change but it’s been debated on what he fits best with.

I just don’t see us paying that much to move up one spot, now we could maybe add Cholowski or someone else but not Veleno.

2.) 30 Sep 2020 12:43:12
Easy no from OTT. Veleno had one good junior year, and didn't do much on the farm last year. If Yzerman wants #3 it's going to cost him more than Veleno.

3.) 30 Sep 2020 19:59:19
Ottawa could use the top C that comes to them. Stutzle or Byfield. I don't see them trading the pick as their system doesn't seem to have a 1C yet.

4.) 30 Sep 2020 19:59:27
4th overall,2020 2nd rd (det) and higher pick between Ottawa and det 2021 and 2022 1st round

For 3rd overall

How’s that?



29 Aug 2020 21:53:19
To winnipeg

To carolina

Jets get 2 of their needs met ..due to reimers cap hit fleury offsets that as he becomes great guy behind Morrisey. Matthios is a decent prospect from winnipeg so he might find his pasdion again..

Carolina needs a 3rd line C as staal is rumored out and 2 once high end prospects get change..who knows carolina might turn stanley into a stud and aho might make vesalainen good again..

Both teams get some of their needs filled..easy peezy


1.) 30 Aug 2020 03:45:57
There's nothing in it for Winnipeg. All 3 players aren't needed by the Jets.

2.) 30 Aug 2020 12:28:34
Youre really banking on heinola, stanley and samberg making an impact next year since at this moment your left D is morrisey and dahlstrom. so haydon Fleury isn't needed or wanted. ok.

Youre really banking on the jets being able to convince a goalie on the open market to live in winnipeg and play second fiddle to hellboy. so james reimer isn't needed

Youre really banking Copp on becoming a legit center and vesalainen and stanley becoming top end nhlers that you're unwilling to get a backup goalie and LHD with a prospect in matteos back for them

WOW. guess there's nothing in it for Winnipeg.

3.) 30 Aug 2020 14:01:33
The 3 players that Carolina would trade to the Jets would be doing what the Jets did last season trying to fill holes in their lineup with a forward prospect which the Jets have enough of, 4/ 5 nonphysical d-man and a unneeded goalie. Fleury is a RFA who will expect a big raise, Mattheos who is no better than Ves and Reimer an overpaid backup. The Jets need to acquire a true #2 center, 2 big physical stay at home d-men which this trade doesn't answer.

4.) 30 Aug 2020 20:54:05
Both sides are giving up garbage, seems fair. Fleury is the hard hitting defenseman lol. You guys just over value jets more than us leaf fans over value our guys. didn't islandjet say kap wouldn't get more than a 3rd round pick?

5.) 01 Sep 2020 18:12:23
Homers write what they write.




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02 Sep 2020 21:39:44
Montreal just helped themselves and st.louis out

Not only did they get a great backup but they made it easier for st.louis to sign petro thus possibly keeping him out of their division when they are ready to compete

Beauty for both teams..well done


1.) 03 Sep 2020 04:38:17
Yeah it's a good move for both st Louis had to clear cap and Montreal still has a ton of space. if all goes to plan for Montreal I think Allen if he's not dealt again before the season starts will start 3 or 4 games out of every 10 this year. Carey price seems to be still elite when well rested.

2.) 03 Sep 2020 07:18:31
I really woulda preferred a 4th line already established player to be added

I don't care what anyone says, but 4th liners are important.

3.) 03 Sep 2020 13:09:13
We have 8 4th liners now.

4.) 05 Sep 2020 02:01:06
well true Habby, I woulda liked to see a deal like they did when they got Armia in the deal, when they took on Masons contract.

5.) 05 Sep 2020 17:36:12
Still lots of time to make another deal like that Sosa.




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28 Feb 2021 19:45:56
Get Bennett get crouse get Spencer’s Watson then u have a great Kingston connection line




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22 Feb 2021 19:57:00
If Brady goes to Ottawa

Ottaw gets
2021 1st

But that still might not do it
Ottawa can offer better to get Matthew.




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22 Feb 2021 19:51:34
Imagine if Ottawa got tkachuk and Bennett

That’s probably the best trio of skill grind toughness you’ll see in this day and age. Follow up with tierney brown Watson and then after wearing opponents out Stutzle with the Russians score a lot of goals. Now Ottawa is legit

What would it take
2021 1st




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22 Feb 2021 19:20:37
Engvall is as valued as any 4th line player is

5th round pick
Prospect taken in 3rd/ 4th rd in 2-3previous drafts
Another 4th liner player
Throw in to make cap work

Copp is a 3rd liner so no deal.




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22 Feb 2021 19:16:54
Toronto gives up nylander for Thomas
StLouis gives up thomas for ehlers
Winnipeg gives up Ehlers for nylander

The 2nd either belongs to StLouis or Toronto but wasn’t specified nor helping in this deal

All teams pass
Tor because Thomas hurt his thumb gaming plus protocol
StLouis because wingers aren’t needed plus protocol
Winnipeg because Ehlers is greater than nylander.





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20 Feb 2021 21:13:35
Most overrated comeback posters
1 Russian colt aka Dunn or Thomas
2 memarcusjoe
3 craigger12




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20 Feb 2021 21:09:25
Come playoff time yes Bennett shows up

However, if your team needs to get in the playoffs he is a ghost

How valuable is Bennett if your team somehow missed the playoffs.

That’s why right now Bennett has no value unless a gm thinks 100% his team is in a playoff spot. However, due to injuries and C.V. even right now no team can guarantee their spot in playoffs, this is why he is difficult to trade as gms won’t spend capital for a regular season flopper.

Come trade deadline things change because some teams know they are in the playoffs guarenteed thus tend to deal for the Bennett tuoe(season pooper playoff performer) thus Bennett value gets teams 2nd rounders for these guys.

If a player can’t help you get into the playoffs then his regular season value is low.

That’s why so many grinders are dealt at deadline time not this time of year




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20 Feb 2021 20:59:53
Go to capfriendly instead of asking questions you can get the answer for yourself

Engvall has lie value in any 1 for 1 deals

However, like the kappy deal ,with Pittsburg, there were 3 minor leaguers and a 4th liner involved to go with kappy a 1st and prospect just to make everything work for both teams.

Throwing in lower valued players to make cap or roster size compliance happens about 10% of the time.

Grabner for 5 non nhl roster players is prime example.
Toronto had a huge list of AHL contracts that year so had to berid a bu ch to move forward so got an nhl player for non nhl players at the time.

Since Teams have 3 numbers they need to comply with the 1st is 23 nhl contracts then next 50 standard contract nhl+ELC+2 way deals then 100 which is all nhl level contracts +AHL contracts + non signed draftees

So throwins happen and engvall is Toronto’s throwin
Whether you agree if his skill or not he would be in 10 teams 3rd lube easily this year. Just not the good teams hence why he is a 4th liner when all is healthy in Toronto

His contract is also one of the best contracts to bury due to how that formula works it costs .175 to do so this the team saves 1.075 toward your cap if you bury him during off days so that’s value in it sel

Players worth aren’t just on ice product




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20 Feb 2021 20:42:01
Because he keeps coming on this forum and advocating for himself

How’s the thumb colt

Seems your gaming injury might kill your hockey career