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11 Oct 2019 14:31:58
Toronto - Nylander

Buffalo - Ristolainen

Toronto does this because they have gone all in this year and with the 4 overpay contracts he gave out, Dumbass has slammed the Leafs window shut at the end of this year.   Yet the Leafs defense is still abysmal.   This would give Toronto a player that would be their best defensive defenseman and they would be unloading deadweight.

Buffalo does this because they want to move a defenseman for a forward and Risto has requested a trade.   They get a winger that may be able to turn his career around with a change of scenery.

Toronto May need to retain to make salaries work.

memarcusjoe

1.) 11 Oct 2019 14:58:04
Memarcus I know what your doing. lol If, as some posters write, Risto is worth Ehlers then he is worth Nylander. They both have 5 points so far this season. The only difference is that the Leafs supporters believe that they don't need defensive help and wouldn't want to trade Nylander as they believe he will be a 60 point player this season. Risto isn't worth either Nylander or Ehlers.


2.) 11 Oct 2019 14:58:30
Is this suppose to be a troll? Lol because I don’t think it’s that bad. I think last year it would’ve been a good trade. Buffalo would probably have to add a little. But the Leafs D looks pretty good does it not? Reilly - Ceci, Muzzin - Barrie as the top 4 is really solid.


3.) 11 Oct 2019 14:59:16
Buffalo wouldn't do this trade even if Toronto added a good prospect. Nylander just dosnt have a ton of value to get a defensmen of Ristolainen's caliber.


4.) 11 Oct 2019 15:27:28
Seems to me Marcus that wpg needs a dman more so than tor. So I think you should post about that. I don't think buff is coming back.


5.) 11 Oct 2019 15:35:25
I agree with DetroitMantha. i don't think Buffalo does this deal either. i mean they really didn't like Alex so why go for William.

I think Risto would be a good addition for the leafs. Fits their style more than Ceci does but nylander isn't the answer for Risto.

On the flip side I can't see management doing something so dramatic to get a RHD. They upgraded with Barrie. Leafs management has given way too much money to nylander to just let him go for a position not as in much need. Take away nylander and the drop off in talent for Matthews really decreases more than the upgrade in defence by adding Ristolainen.

Good proposal though as given. as Ebsolutely put it given a differant circumstance (like summer of 18) and this deal probably could of happened.


6.) 11 Oct 2019 15:50:07
No Ebbs, it's not a troll, I'm just trying to have a discussion. The Leafs aren't competitive with the real contenders due to lack of defense. This gives them something they need for something they don't.

Redwing1, yet the Jets have given up less goals while having a tougher schedule with more injuries to their D than Toronto to start the year.

I agree though about Buff, I think he has made his mind up that he is retiring.


7.) 11 Oct 2019 16:12:07
$20.3 million dollars out of $45 million owed has already been given to nylander. can't see toronto dealing him unless the return is for a top Defencemen. Risto in my opinion is a top 4 guy but Toronto would want a top2 guy due to fact the team getting him gets him for a bargain money actually owed wise.

comparing leafs and jets so early in the season is pointless. start comparing at the 20-30 game point.

Stamkos calls out team, point returns and it didn't matter who played tampa it was going to be a blowout. that's hockey folks. peaks and valleys.


8.) 11 Oct 2019 16:17:59
why was another team (winnipeg), not involved in this deal, even brought up in this discussion?


makes no sense.


9.) 11 Oct 2019 16:24:53
Now that I agree with Craigger. It's too early in the season to start panicking. Which is exactly why I don't want the Jets to flip out after 5 games and make a panic trade.


10.) 11 Oct 2019 16:33:46
Craigger, you'd have to ask Redwing1 why he brought up the Jets. I think he wants to control who posts on what.


11.) 11 Oct 2019 16:34:36
Its only a panic move if the deal is lopsided. When a trade actually upgrades for a true need long term its never a panic trade. The Jets GM didn't do anything panic wise with trouba last year so i'm sure he will hold on to his jets (sorry bad pun) before really assessing his team. that said what's fun coming on these sites without being involved in a rumor.

again why is this back to Jets. lol.


12.) 11 Oct 2019 16:43:16
Lol Nylander is a PPG player this year and people are saying he doesn't have value

Leafs don't need Risto, he's a great defenceman, but not the one we need. We need a defensive guy to play with Reilly. A trade I can see happening when Hyman comes back is Kapanen+Ceci+Bracco for a top 2-way RHD depending on Kapanen's play up to that point.


13.) 11 Oct 2019 17:41:21
When dealing Nylander its not just about his skill or value on the ice. Much like Marner, Tavares and Matthews any team aquiring them this season only needs to pay them roughly 700K. although their cap hit is what it is their actual money owed for this season is next to nothing. everything has already been paid to them in bonuses for this year. taking that into account any of these guys value in a trade would demand a kings ransom.

imagine a struggling team finacially that has cap space. if they aquired a free player for a whole year that is a stud theyd give that team trading this kind of player a boat load back. its economics

all 4 guys once their bonus is paid in july 1st every year their value for that year is massive. just sayin.


14.) 11 Oct 2019 17:58:38
redwing1 is just stirrin the pot. no worries. lol.


15.) 11 Oct 2019 19:34:06
Craigger comparing William Nylander to Alex Nylander is beyond stupidity two completely different caliber players with different playing styles. Alex is a playmaker where as William has a much better scoring ability. Not to mention Alex isn’t even a nhl player.


16.) 11 Oct 2019 20:21:55
vbbvvbb,

Not once did i compare the two. I simply wrote that buffalo didn't like dealing with alex so they may be hesitant dealing with william. By dealing i mean negotiations as michael is a handful to deal with.

If whàt i wrote many many posts ago made you think i was comparing the two as the same ability sorry about that.

Also, who knows why buffalo didn't want alex. sometimes after a team let's go of a player they tend not to go after family members in a trade or future signings. Of course i could be way off with this perseption as william may be the player buffalo wants.

Guess in the end anything is plausible i just don't see a trade between nylander and ristolainen happening at this moment for éverything that has been written throughout this topic.


17.) 11 Oct 2019 22:04:26
Marcus

You also need to consider playing styles. Tor plays a fast and loose offensive style. Where as dog plays a more central focus on team 200 ft game. Only team that does it better is the blues. So far.


18.) 12 Oct 2019 02:44:00
A guy I know around here calls people "Homers" a lot when they post something dumb. I'm shocked he didn't say that this time lol. Nylander had one bad year and isn't on the worst contract at 6.9. He will do well this year and is worth more than Risto lol.


19.) 12 Oct 2019 02:55:13
I don’t think the Leafs liked dealing with Nylander either.


 

 

12 Sep 2019 14:18:27
Sam Reinhart, Rasmus Ristolainen and 3rd
For
Matthew Tkachuk (verbal agreement to resign)


Calgary gets two awesome players and a pick for a player that wants out of Calgary.

memarcusjoe

1.) 12 Sep 2019 15:11:43
I don’t think Tkachuk wants out, at least I haven’t heard any credible source say so. But then again, memarcusjoe always has his ‘local sources’ so maybe I should trust him? Lmao

As for the trade itself, as with the Laine option, I’d rather keep Risto and Reinhart than get Marner/ Laine considering you can have both of them for the price of one Marner or Laine. But as with the Jets, If the Leafs were offered this, I think they should take it.


2.) 12 Sep 2019 15:15:10
Lol. Nice deflection on Liane and the Jets problems.
Tkcuchuk doesn’t want out of Calgary and Calgary for sure wants to keep him. He’s a big part of that team and a fan favorite. He brings more value to a team than Liane or Connor hands down.


3.) 12 Sep 2019 15:58:16
Good job Memarcus. Now these characters can see what silly offers for one of their players looks like. If they don't' think your trade proposal is good they must be homers. hahaha.


4.) 12 Sep 2019 16:20:12
Wow, a player that wants out of Calgary, that's comical coming from you. He want less then Laine but wants out? You're a troll dude. Always have been. My local sources say tkachuk is close to a deal, wouldn't trade him unless 2 1sts, a young top 6 forward and top4 defenseman . But they wouldn't trade him unless they got a ridiculous overpayment. Sound familiar?


5.) 12 Sep 2019 16:28:51
Thanks Islandjet. I just wanted to give the homers here a platform to demonstrate that they can't possibly ever be objective. If this deal is supposedly good enough for Laine, then they have to say it is more than enough for Tkachuk. If they won't admit that then you know they have no credibility as far as being objective goes.

After all Tkachuk has only out produced Laine in one season where he played miles over his head and Laine was injured. Other than that Tkachuk is a 45 point guy that wants $11 mil.


6.) 12 Sep 2019 17:04:21
No problem Memarcusjoe. Your trade proposal could be fair to get Marner from the Leafs as well. After all the Toronto media and some so called Leaf fans are already turning on him. lol.


7.) 12 Sep 2019 17:38:08
I don't believe tkachuk is asking 11 million, I also don't believe he played miles above his head.

In terms of value, it's pretty fair, 2c, top 4d but maybe the pick should be a2nd or 1st (like with laine) .

The problem is Calgary doesn't have those needs. They have backlund at 2c, who does a nice job there, as a shutdown centre and on the blue line, risto would be a replacement for brodie.

I think they would prefer skinner/ middlestadt as primary pieces returning.


8.) 12 Sep 2019 18:27:54
Does anyone else get the impression that Islandjet is memarcusjoe on a second account? Or vice verse? Lol. Their delusions are way to similar to be to separate people. Maybe it’s just me though.


9.) 12 Sep 2019 19:25:47
Tkachuk=Laine.


10.) 12 Sep 2019 20:01:29
Brooo i'm dead


11.) 12 Sep 2019 23:56:21
You two are by far the biggest homers on this site it isn’t even close. Keep sucking each other off, we all see it. Pretty sad boys and you put a terrible name to all Jets fans. And I actually like the Jets, can’t stand you two. Very sad the way you two biased homers are.


12.) 12 Sep 2019 23:57:39
And no VB. Tkcuchuk has more value to a team than Liane. He had 70+ points. Liane 52? What Tkcuhcuk brings an all round game and grit and leadership, is more valuable than goals. No question.


13.) 13 Sep 2019 12:01:26
Tkachuk definitely has more value than Laine, all around game plus getting better. Laine is a goal scorer and end of story. Tkachuk scores, assists, hits, plays defence, horror film to play against. And a leader, something Laine has never had in the slightest. It's insane what jets fans (these two) want for him. If I was a jets fan, a 1st round pick and he's gone. You don't keep a headache around especially when he does only one thing.


14.) 14 Sep 2019 02:39:43
Laine has 60 goal potential if Ovie can score 60 so can Laine.


15.) 14 Sep 2019 20:44:37
Laine is a second liner at best when he's not on the powerplay, clapping away one timers.


 

 

21 Jul 2018 03:45:40
Leafs: Rielly
Oilers: Draisaitl

memarcusjoe

1.) 21 Jul 2018 05:33:42
why would leafs do that . give up their one good D for a Center when they have Mathews, Tavares, Kadri .


2.) 21 Jul 2018 05:50:36
I’m going to be honest here Drais is great and has more value then Rielly but no way leafs make this trade Rielly is the only bright spot in there Dcore and Peter. C is known for making questionable trades so “maybe” if Rielly was a RHD he’d accept it but the fact is the oilers are set at the left side.


3.) 21 Jul 2018 06:19:14
Leafs have no need for drat and need Reilly way way more.


4.) 21 Jul 2018 08:11:55
Great idea, as we all know the Leafs could really use their surplus of great defenseman and trade for the elite C they're desparetly lacking.


5.) 21 Jul 2018 15:34:37
Biasjoe is just trying to see how we value our own teams players. It looks like vbb’s and myself know that Draisaitl has more value. That’s crazy eh joe, considering we’re leaf fans? Do you see how that works? I am judging a player by their true value, not what team they play for.


6.) 21 Jul 2018 16:04:50
Different situation leafs pull the trigger right away. But as said above, to trade your best Dman for a guy going to be 3rd centre or an $8.5 mill winger makes zero sense. Just stick to that Winnipeg koolaid, joe.


7.) 21 Jul 2018 17:05:04
Every Leaf Fan knows Drais>Rielly in value. But unlike the Jets, the Leafs have a need for Defense, as everyone knows, so we’d certainly not trade our best dman for another centre.


8.) 22 Jul 2018 22:54:42
pretty sure the leafs do this in a heartbeat. it wouldn't be that hard to flip drai or another asset for a very solid dman.

just a value game at this point. no idea why edm would do this.


 

 

21 Jul 2018 00:11:32
Leafs: Rielly
Oilers: Draisaitl.

memarcusjoe

 

 

 

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23 Aug 2019 13:38:53
The recent Laine trade discussions reminded me of the Trouba trade discussions earlier in the year.

At the time, Jets fans said that Trouba was a #1 defenseman, probably ranked in the top 20-25 in the league.

Most of the other fans on this site said: LOL. You Jets fans overrate every player you have, Trouba is a second pairing defenseman at best, with at least 50-75 defenseman better than him.

Now an impartial ranking comes out placing Trouba at #15, exactly where Jets fans said he was.

Therefore, impartial, third party ranking that proves that Jets fans were entirely objective, honest and accurate in their assessment of their own players skill, ranking their player exactly where the impartial ranking places him. While at the same time proving that the opinions of the other fans on this site were not objective in the least, dishonest and heavily influenced by their bias against Jets players, causing them to be a minimum of 35-60 spots off in their ranking.

So, the actual impartial evidence we have proves Jets fans as being completely unbiased, while the other fans on this site have their opinions heavily coloured by bias against the Jets.

Before we start with the “but, but, but, he was traded for…” lame arguments, we all know that what a player is traded for in many cases has little to nothing to do with his actual quality.

memarcusjoe

1.) 23 Aug 2019 14:03:20
If i remember right, all of the discussions were regarding what he would be traded for. The return was thought to be higher because of the opinion that he was a #1D by some, and in the trade is what it is. Not much to really talk about here. Pretty much a moot point.


2.) 23 Aug 2019 14:48:59
As a fellow homer lol, I appreciate what you wrote about Trouba but what Chevy received in return for him still puzzles me. Unless one of Pionk or Heinola turn out to be top pairing d-man I still believe Chevy may have gotten a better return from a team that may have wanted to try and convince Trouba to resign with them before this years trade deadline.


3.) 23 Aug 2019 14:53:42
You are a biased homer because of what you were screaming Trouba would get in a trade. He got crap all like your fellow fan says and you were proven a biased homer. Stop crying.


4.) 23 Aug 2019 15:59:18
The point.




Yupp's head.

Boy did that ever go over your head. Try and actually use some facts in your posts every once in a while instead of whining about how biased every one is (but you of course) and trying to twist the discussion to something that suits your bias.


5.) 23 Aug 2019 16:29:22
Valeno + the 6th Overall

Kakko+

Patrick or Ghost and the 11th Overall

Werenski

Howden and Skeji

Sergachev and Foote

Just a few of the returns you assured us Trouba was going to get, in your totally unbiased opinion. Trouba could be the highest ranking D man on whatever list you are referring to -- he was never going to get the return you said he was, which we all pointed out.

Take the L and move on kid.


6.) 23 Aug 2019 18:28:52
I think most everyone would agree he’s a 2-3 D. No one except maybe a crazy or two said he was “second pair at best”. He still didn’t touch the value you thought he would. Isn’t that the point of the site? To guess trades. You weren’t close. Thanks for letting us all reminisce about how wrong you were though.


7.) 23 Aug 2019 18:28:54
I know you want to twist the discussion to something that suits your agenda, unsportsmanlike. However, as has already had been pointed out, trade value does nothing to prove that biased posters like you were correct.

You said Trouba was a second pairing defenseman at best. While an impartial ranking put Trouba at 15.

Proving that the Jets posters were absolutely correct and unbiased in evaluating the player, while the remainder of the posters like yourself had a heavily biased evalution based on Jets hate.


8.) 23 Aug 2019 19:50:40
I without question did not ever say Trouba was a "second pairing defenseman at best"

I like Trouba. He's a really good defenceman. But you were clearly overvaluing him by shooting down proposals that were around fair value and suggesting the preposterous counter-proposal trades listed above.

If you want to make stuff up because reality is too painful, cool, but please leave me out of it. You can join Rambo in the "this site is biased against my team" triggered club. Don't forget your tinfoil hat. It will match the Silver Jet perfectly.


9.) 24 Aug 2019 11:33:30
Lol the sad part about your Trouba proposals were you weren’t trolling. Laine might be able to get what you thought Trouba would get.


10.) 24 Aug 2019 19:22:10
Why are we having this discussion lol.
This adds absolutely NOTHING new and we're just having the same argument as we did months ago.

Are you trying to argue that you aren't biased and want people to stop viewing you in such a way? Because that's not going to happen.


11.) 25 Aug 2019 00:12:37
Lol, buddy just can’t take an L. I don't know what you’re getting at, cause if you say Laine discussions are the same as Trouba, then Laines going to be traded for well under what you think he’ll pull in.

Remember, Trouba got back basically what Hayes was traded for from NY to WPG (1st and an okay player), while you said hemd get something like Nolan Patrick and Provorov, or Sergachev&Cirelli, etc. Etc.


 

 

24 Apr 2019 14:02:03
There are only two teams that have not won a playoff series in the salary cap era.   Florida and Toronto.

I find it amazing that Toronto, a team with (just ask any Leaf fan here) the 23 most valuable players in the NHL.   Including the top 4 forwards currently playing in the league, 3 centers that would be 1C's on every other team in the league, at least one generational player, the "real" Norris trophy winning defenseman and the best goalie in the history of hockey.   How? How? How is THAT team continuous first round fodder?

Could it be that the Leaf fans here massively overrate every single player and prospect in their system?   Nah, they wouldn't do that would they?

memarcusjoe

1.) 24 Apr 2019 14:33:18
Not to mention a the best coach and Gm in sports history.


2.) 24 Apr 2019 15:04:12
Unfortunately for the Leaf fans this happens way too often and the only thing it does is inflates their player sense of worth so they eventually over pay for their so called star. Also because every player is a potential all-star and award winner when that player plays like they really are and makes mistakes then some fans and Toronto's media monster drive the kid out of town. Then posters here make ridiculous trade posts, overvaluing their players and when they'er told it isn't a fair trade they retort by calling anyone who doesn't agree with their fantasy post a homer. How sad. No wonder the Leafs haven't won the cup for 52 years. memarcusjoe expect to be lambasted over this post.


3.) 24 Apr 2019 18:33:18
I’m not sure anyone implied that leafs players have much value.

Mathews and Tavares top 10 Cs- Facts undebatable

Marner is one of the best up and coming players in the game- fact undebatable

Rielly was a top 5 defence man in the NHL this year- he was top 3 in scoring for dman

Nylander is a bad season separated from a star in the making ( still think he’s better then Ehlers but very close in value ) - it’s much more likely he bounces back rather then having another bad season.

Kadri is a 2C on most teams and is probably the best 3C in the game.

Andersen’s stats show that he is a top 5 goalie- fact


Kappanen, Johnsson, Lilijgren, Sandin are all worth 1st round picks.

Dermotte is worth more to the leafs than to any other team.

It is logically impossible to disprove any of these points thank you goodnight.


4.) 24 Apr 2019 19:24:41
Lol okay elite Bryan Little truther. Auston&JT are first liners on almost any team, don't try and tell anyone they aren’t. Rielly is still an elite dman, he had the most goals and T3 in points. Marner is an elite RW. Our defence isn't great but it was shored. Our 3L got exposed and our goalie had a garbGe game7, and our coach is extremely stuborn.


5.) 24 Apr 2019 19:57:08
Wow. I guess you were glued to game 7 just like chirpy and all the others. Your team of untouchables that even non leaf fans comment on are out as well. Not sure if you noticed that. It seems that Canadian teams are sh*t. Maybe if we had Danault Habby, or had Dubas not replied to Marchand’s tweet, lol.


6.) 24 Apr 2019 19:59:05
Lol at vbbb and topshelf. Even in the face of epic ineptness by the Laffs, their overvaluing of their players continues.

The Laffs motto should be:

Toronto Maple Leafs: Golfing in April - A Tradition Since 1967!


7.) 24 Apr 2019 20:49:38
Holy Mackinaw, Johnny Toronto had a great season as he finally made the playoffs.


8.) 24 Apr 2019 20:50:45
Yes leafs17 if you had daneult you guys probably would have won game 6 instead of Nazem Cooke watching from the press box again.


9.) 24 Apr 2019 21:01:37
You’re right again habby. The best 2 way center in the game has never been mentioned by anyone in the league, other than an old man with too much time on his hands. I also like how the Winnipeg cheer leaders kept it bottled up until now. The leafs must have had you gals worried. For a jets fan to talk trash is pretty comical. You guys still seem to forget your history of being bottom feeders. Either that or you’re young and naive.


10.) 24 Apr 2019 21:06:01
@Habby, I agree. That has to be a real kick in the butt for leaf fans. Kadri could actually have made a difference yesterday by providing some secondary offence since the top 4 players in the NHL all playing for the Leafs were their typical no show selves again. But instead the idiot is in the press box, suspended for a selfish play. AGAIN.

I hope Kadri remains a Leaf for a long, long time. He'll go down as one of the most costly morons of all time.


11.) 24 Apr 2019 21:17:53
Memarcusjoe rationality must not be a trait you’re familiar with. You can throw all the shots you like but the reality is the jets are in the exact same position as the leafs only difference is the leafs actually made it to 7 games played a more formidable opponent.


12.) 24 Apr 2019 21:25:20
Habby and memarcusjoe we should be more sensitive to these Leaf fans as having their team not winning a cup in 52 years, 5 plus decades, over a half a century, would make a fan of a perennial loser like the Leafs crazy. Don't worry as in a week they will be planning the parade for next season as they tell us they have the greatest team ever assembled, on paper.


13.) 24 Apr 2019 21:33:31
Vbbb and Leafs17, you guys can try to compare yourselves to the Jets all you want, but you know the Leafs aren't close. The Jets have actually won a playoff series or two while the Laffs are still fighting to remain winless.

As my original post notes, the Laffs have far more in common with a bottom feeder like Florida than they do with real teams like the Jets.

So, I'll ask again. With all this supposed elite talent the Leafs have, how come they're out once again?

I know losing is what makes the Leafs the Leafs, it's their heritage, but do you guys always want to stay on that path?


14.) 24 Apr 2019 21:45:41
You’re an angry young boy Joe. You guys were the 2nd best team in the NHL I thought? We were all told that many times. Even old man habby would agree if his memory serves him.


15.) 24 Apr 2019 21:53:42
Uh, leafs17, please don’t presume to know me and please don’t talk about what I’m doing. It’s weird and off-putting, you stalker. I didn’t see the game because I was at work.


16.) 24 Apr 2019 22:02:02
I understand Leafs17, it's easier to keep deflecting than to try and explain how your $11 million dollar center, tied for the best center in the league, scored 1 yes 1 whole goal in a 7 game series.

Now that money was well spent!


17.) 24 Apr 2019 22:29:06
I wonder if we have to be forced fed that stupid commercial with Matthews and Marner holding hands while they do anything but learn how to win a hockey game or the one with kids playing hockey that want to be Matthews. Only in Toronto. Its not like the rest of the country is infatuated with these commercials. What a joke.


18.) 24 Apr 2019 22:54:44
@vbbb everyone of those statements are debatable except the one about marner.


19.) 25 Apr 2019 00:37:04
Debut them then.


20.) 24 Apr 2019 23:51:36
I said the jets had the best roster as they have the ability to play any way. But we will see how formidable of an opponent Boston is when they play the 8th seed blue jackets. If the Bruins actually win that series I'll come back on here and admit the leafs are closer then I thought. With regards to daneult if you listened to anything other then leaf media plenty of unbiased sites were talking about him and how his line was one of the better 2 way lines in the nhl. But again torontonet or the Toronto sports network don't talk about it much. So I can understand you being brainwashed. But in leaf land nazem Kadri is the only top defensive centre in the history of the league who doesn't kill penalties lol.


21.) 25 Apr 2019 02:10:26
@vbbb keep in mind I didn't say I didn't agree with your statements but I could realistically see an argument for all of them except the marner one.


22.) 25 Apr 2019 02:25:34
But I'll ask you this just for fun do you think Anderson would be one of the top 5 goalies picked to start a playoff series by anyone? Other then leaf fans?
Do you think it's possible that Tavares or Matthews wouldn't be one of the first 10 picked to start a playoff series keep in mind even though they don't put up incredible regular season numbers Washington has 2 centres that a lot of people would take before them not to mention the two in Pittsburgh and Patrice Bergeron would get more votes then either Matthews or Tavares. I think it's rather easy to find 5 more who are arguably better.
Same thing for Reilly if a gm had his choice of picking any 5 dman to start the playoffs with could you see the scenario where reily may not be picked?


23.) 25 Apr 2019 02:34:11
When was the last time the jets/ thrashers won the Stanley cup? Who cares about how far they made it the last few years if you don’t win how’s that any better than losing in the first round or 3rd round? It’s still losing. As hockey fans we shouldn’t be fighting we should be cheering each other on. Every Canadian team has elite players or soon to be elite players and have bright futures all at the same time. “If you’re not first your last” no point in bitching about it. it’s just a game!


24.) 25 Apr 2019 02:57:44
You failed to debut any of the points I’ve made.


25.) 25 Apr 2019 04:16:34
I forget how many cups the Jets have? Maybe we should be discussing how sh*t Canadian teams are. I’m willing to admit the leafs are not contenders. Joe and Jet continue to group all leaf fans together. Maybe you guys go to many other sites, I’m not sure. I for one have a busy life and barely make time to argue with you guys, lol. There is one person on this site that makes ridiculous leaf proposals and one person that likes to pump the tires of leafs players. There are 3 maybe 4 jets fans in the world and 50% are delusional. Good average. The blackAlpaca is very respectable.


26.) 25 Apr 2019 05:40:39
I didn't fail to debut anything lol cause I didn't try I just tried to show you how debatable most of those statements actually are vbbb.


27.) 25 Apr 2019 21:17:05
Don Cherry stated that Andersen was the best goalie in the NHL. I don’t agree but I’d say he’s top 5 he played great in the playoffs and if you watched him you’d agree. Also at the Mid way Point of the season Rielly was the favourite to win the Norris.


28.) 25 Apr 2019 21:18:15
Sports net also ranked Mathews the 4 best C in the NHL last offseason and Tavares 7th. Statistically they only got better.


29.) 25 Apr 2019 22:48:02
Don cherry and sports net are your sources? The two biggest leaf homers on the planet lol.


30.) 26 Apr 2019 11:06:57
Don Cherry is a Bruins fan.


31.) 26 Apr 2019 22:46:19
Don cherry is a leaf fan who also likes Boston cause he coached there for a few years. His allegiance is to the leafs though that's pretty common knowledge.


 

 

25 Dec 2018 05:45:46
Merry Christmas everybody!

memarcusjoe

1.) 25 Dec 2018 13:55:26
Cheers buddy, to you and your family as well, to everyone and everyones families!


2.) 25 Dec 2018 15:10:11
Merry Christmas.


3.) 25 Dec 2018 21:04:50
Have a Merry Christmas all.


4.) 25 Dec 2018 22:50:59
Merry Christmas.


5.) 28 Dec 2018 01:36:39
Love all the “disagrees” lol.


 

 

21 Jul 2018 17:01:25
Yes, the value experiment worked as I figured it would.

Vbbb, Leafs17 and Jim have all admitted they are true hypocritical homers.


According to the criteria established in the Trouba trades below by these Leaf fans, you absolutely have to accept the trade if you are offered a player of close to equal or more value. Regardless of whether or not you need them or can afford their contract. If you don't you're a homer.

Now, presented with the same situation, Leaf fans turn down the trade, but have multiple excuses as to why they aren't homers.

Thanks for coming out and admitting all Leaf fans on here are hypocritical homers, by turning down the trade.

memarcusjoe

1.) 21 Jul 2018 23:06:25
Read it again smart guy. All I said was Draisaitl has more value.


2.) 21 Jul 2018 23:06:43
So. Matthews, Marner, Rielly, Liljegren and 1st for Trouba, Little and Roslovic.

Who says no?
Probabky Winnipeg tbh. That offer from Toronto would need to at least add Tavares to get the almighty Trouba.


3.) 21 Jul 2018 23:27:49
And also, heres a list of a couple others that you and @islandjet rejected:

Marner for Trouba (You said it's in the right ballpark, but would prefer a centre. No thanks. Marner is a superior player to Trouba lmao. Marner drives a line. You don't say no to a guy who can quarterback a line because he 'isn't a centre'. Apart from Wheeler and Laine, Marner is a big upgrade to what you guys have) .

Rielly for Trouba (Just lol, Mo and Trouba are similar players and Mo is on a good contract, we should all see that Mo>Trouba based on that)

Bouchard (D-Prospect) + RNH for Little + Trouba (Upgrade centre which is what you want, and you get a 'cheaper' dman, albeit a couple years away. RNH >>> Little btw. )

And also. you might say 'SOME OF THESE TRADES don't HAVE DMEN TO REPLACE TROUBA SO there's NO POINT'.

Well:
Ain't you the one that said 'apart from Rielly, no one on Toronto would crack WPG's blueline'? Or was that islandjet? Either way, aparrently, you guys have an absolute PLETHORA of dprospects like Sami Niku or Tucker Poolman (Who are both apperantly better than Gardiner according to you guys lMaO) . So yeah, don't mess your words. If you have such a great dcore, why need to replace Trouba if you're upgrading at forward?


4.) 21 Jul 2018 23:18:07
In seriousness, let's get down to it, okay. Let's retrace some of those deals that were previously offered:

Ghost and Patrick for Little, Trouba and I think a 2nd.
You want a centre? You got a centre in Patrick as replacement for Little; younger, cheaper, more potential, better player next year imo.

You want a dman in return? You got a dman in return who isn't asking bonkers in money in Ghost, unlike Trouba asking 7+ million, lmao. And Ghost is a far, far superior player.

This deal is totally 1-Sided. Patrick and Ghost are superior players, and yet, you and islandjet rejected this trade. And for what? What other position do the Jets need help in, lmao.

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Juolevi and Horvat for Trouba and Little.

Hmmmmmmmmm. Let's break this one down too.

Horvat is far superior than Little. Horvat is young, cheap, and imo, I could see him as a selke candidate in his prime. He's the perfect shutdown 2C for Vancouver after Pettersson transitions from Europe. What's his replacement? Brian Little - old, slow, bigger contract. Vancouver's trying to get younger.

And of course Trouba is worth more then Juolevi, anyone with eyes can see that. But Juolevi was a #5 Overall Pick, and can break into the NHL next year. And you want a replacement dman aye? there's your replacement dman. He won't be as good as Trouba, but he's way cheaper and has potential to grow into a Trouba role.

NEXT!

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Keller and Crouse for Trouba and Little.

Lml, let's break it down shall we?
Little is worth more than Crouse 100%. Nobody denying that. Crouse is a 20 point winger in the NHL, nothing more imho. But look at what Arizona has done over the past two seasons: Galchenyuk, Hinostroza, Stepan. All superior or equivalent centres to Little on better contracts, or are better/ younger. But sure, I'll give you the value there, Littles better for sure.

Onto Keller for Trouba. KELLER IS HEAD OVER HEELS BETTER THAN TROUBA. Keller is the one really, really bright spot on ARZ. Easily has Marner potential and could be a star if surrounded correctly. And don't give me BS that Winnipeg couldn't use him and he'd be 'battling Roslovic and Dano and f'n Adam Lowry'. Keller would easily be one of the best players on the Jets and would make them nasty - giving them two role out lines; Schief/ Laine and Keller/ Wheeler. As for Trouba for AZ, what's he going to do? They already have a ton of money tied into Hjalmarasson, OEL, Demers and Goligoski. What, pay another 7 million for Trouba? Take a hike.

See buddy, we ain't the lunatics. You are. Stop acting like we're crazy. You're crazy. You want the sun and the moon for Trouba, and you ain't going to get it.


5.) 21 Jul 2018 23:54:38
Mathews=Eichel or any player not named Crosby or McDavid
Marner=Guadreau
Nylander=Paryanko/ Ehlers
Kadri=Nylander
Tavares=Kane
Rielly=Lindholm
Anderson=Quick
Gardiner=Ryan Murray
Marleau=Kovluchuk
Kappanen=13th overall
Brown=projected late 1st like Hartman
Hyman=Brown

Call me bias but this is my evaluation of leaf players.


6.) 22 Jul 2018 04:42:37
Your biased lol.


7.) 22 Jul 2018 05:31:58
Topshelfslpper I didn't say Trouba was the better player in all the trades mention but I believe that he is more valuable to the Jets than some trades proposed here. Marner would help any team in the NHL but the Jets trading for him would leave a big hole on the Jets defensive right side for a type of player the Jets have in Ehlers, Connor, Wheeler and Laine. Besides there is no way the Leafs would do this deal. If and when the Jets trade Trouba or any other player it will be for a piece or pieces that improve the team. You are the one that thinks every trade would improve the Jets and I actually know what the Jets have not only in the NHL but in the minors, that will be fighting for a spot on the roster. Some of these proposals look good now but could hurt the Jets in 2 or 3 years. You don't have to agree with me but that's my opinion and I really appreciate that you actually took time to defend your position with facts rather than the usual childish quip such as this team laughs or hangs up the phone.


8.) 22 Jul 2018 06:30:32
Why would Trouba leave a big hole in your Defense? Earlier today and yesterday you said jets have 7 Dmen better than Jake Gardiner who is a good top 4 Dman. How can you have 7 top 4 Dmen and yet turn down Marner because of the hole it would leave?! Lol you and MarcusJoe together have made jets fans look like the most clueless fans going. Good job 👏.


9.) 22 Jul 2018 14:54:24
Bahaha! From what we have heard from these 2 bozo’s, there are no holes in the line up. Give them the cup now, they did already have one good season in franchise history. I love how the island tries to sound all mature and non confrontational yet calls the leafs defense pathetic yesterday. That’s not childish quip at all?


10.) 22 Jul 2018 15:27:35
But now at the same time we are proving you are a hypothetical jets fan that doesn’t know hockey or the value for players on your team with out being a homer. You can compare the 2 teams jets and leafs an they are close value wise. So for you to call them homers and not yourself is crazy. And if we go back through all the threads him gives the best reasons and break downs on all trades. You just have to figure out even though you don’t like Toronto there’s players are good and some really good.


11.) 22 Jul 2018 16:56:33
The other factor in trading a player is how it affects the teams cap space. Trouba is not worth $7 mil a year to the Jets based on how many more players they have to sign. He may be worth $7 mil to teams that have players that are signed to long term affordable contracts but Trouba at $7 would cripple the Jets with Connor, Wheeler and Laine coming up next season. Some of these trade proposals on paper are very good but in the cap world would hamstring the Jets for years. If you were informed more about the Jets prospects, of their 4 top ranked d-men only Poolman is a right shot player. In 3/ 4 years the Jets may only have Myers, Trouba and Poolman in their system so a need for left shot d-men are not a priority. If they are forced to trade Trouba the Jets have 5/ 6 top forwards coming up in 2-4 years so getting a forward that would want 7-8 mil a year would be cap crazy when they have affordable players coming up. The big picture is hard to take, but a trade involving Trouba is a lot more complicated that getting, on paper, a better player or players that the Jets can't afford in 2 years. If the Jets trade Trouba it most likely will be for a young right shot d-man that isn't ready to be a top pairing player for 2 or 3 years. The Jets would still have Buff, Myers and Poolman who can shelter a young d-man until they are ready to take over.


12.) 22 Jul 2018 18:13:43
@Islandjet,
That's what all the Leafs homers on this site don't understand. They think it is like NHL 18 and that if you have a player that is rated 80 and someone offers you two or three players that total 82, you have to take that trade. It doesn't matter that you can't afford them, or that you don't need a player at a certain position, you just have to accept the trade.
They need to understand that in a cap world there is far more to a trade than just equal or more value.

Especially, when they want you to rely on their homer centric views on player values on players they know nothing about instead of using advanced stats to evaluate players that you don't get to see play often, like I do.


13.) 22 Jul 2018 19:48:33
Lol @marcus whafya have to say for me? Is my evaluation false and am I a homer too? Hmph. No response from Marcus as of what I’m seeing.


14.) 22 Jul 2018 19:48:33
Lol @marcus whafya have to say for me? Is my evaluation false and am I a homer too? Hmph. No response from Marcus as of what I’m seeing.


 

 

 

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13 Oct 2019 23:13:08
Buffalo has too many defensemen as it is. They want to move a defenseman for a forward. Maybe something like Drouin or Domi and Poehling or Suzuki for Ristolainen.

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13 Oct 2019 22:58:52
However, you were saying that I misread what you said but then do the same thing on one of my posts. Where did I say one of Appleton, Vesalainen, Samberg or Roslovic would replace Ehlers production in a couple years?

All I said is that I wouldn't move any of those guys for Ristolainen. Simply because getting Ristolainen doesn't outweigh the impact of losing any one of those players. I'd rather just keep the young guys and stay the course.

Good conversation though. I guess we just need you read each others posts more carefully. Lol.

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13 Oct 2019 22:46:19
Craigger, the problem is that Tatar doesn't replace Ehlers points for the next 2 years. If you set aside Tatar's career year last season, he is a 40 point player trending down.

While Ehlers at 23 is a 60 point player when you set aside his injury plagued year last season and is only getting better. So, you're about 20 points minimum low there and there's a much, much better chance that Ehlers returns to form and even exceeds it, than there is of Tatar exceeding or even repeating his career season.

So, giving up a young 60 point winger for a 28 year old declining winger, just to pick up a prospect who projects to be a bottom pairing defenseman just isn't worth it.

It would be terrible asset management.

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13 Oct 2019 20:01:52
Okay then Craigger, I misunderstood you then, sorry about that.

I thought you were saying Jets fans were being unreasonable turning down all these great deals.

I agree though about ending the bad Risto proposals. We have no interest in him, so proposing the same deals over and over again with slight variations isn't very productive and really isn't interesting to discuss.

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13 Oct 2019 19:12:43
It's neither Craigger. It's that Tatar is 28 and has never produced, save his career year last season, anywhere close to Ehlers and is 2 years from UFA.

Yes, if you're an idiot that trade might make sense. But objectively no one being honest would make that trade from a Jets point of view.

Again in terms you might understand. Would you accept that deal (value wise) for Nylander?

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