Florida Panthers Rumours

10 Apr 2024 13:18:01
Ottawa Trades
Chychrun
3rd Round Pick 2025 (Florida's Pick)

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
DeWar
Liljegren
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)


Leafs will be looking to upgrade Defence and adding Chychrun would fit into what they would be looking at.

Unless Chychrun is committed long term on a new contract it would be better to get assets back before he walks for nothing after next season, NRobertson would be either on the second or third line in Ottawa, Liljegren though not Chychrun would play in Ottawa full time, DeWar fills in the 4th line nicely and Sens also get a 1st Rounder out of this deal

Remember everyone Chychrun was traded for a 1st and two 2nd Rounders when Arizona traded him to Ottawa and had more contract as well, so my proposal imo is similar to that transaction.



Thoughts ?

10 Apr 2024 20:25:35
- explain it any way you like, and upvote yourself till the cows come home, but these one-sided trades you post incessantly are a waste of everyone’s time.

- OTT isn’t going to help your leafs out like this for that yard sale of a return. Their new owner would fire any GM that even suggested something like this.

11 Apr 2024 01:40:21
So chychrun for a bag of pucks turns ottawa's 3rd into a 1st? No thanks.

11 Apr 2024 14:13:34
Chickenfoot and Facelift39.
I guess none of those Leaf Players are NHLers in your world unless they play for another team got it.
What did Ottawa trade to get Chychrun from Arizona again with 3 years compared to an expiring contract next season?
If you don't know it was a 1st and two 2nd Rounders, so all of a sudden Chychrun is worth much much more?
Very odd way of thinking don't you think.

11 Apr 2024 22:03:07
Chychrun with one year left is much more valuable than the three players with zero years left.
Ottawa has their own RFA's to work on this summer.
What value does 4th liner dewar have to ottawa? (McEwen still under contract, kastelic still under contract, affordable RFA's kelly and katchouk)
What about bottom pair d liljegren? (Hamonic still under contract, zub under contract)
3rd liner NRobertson? (Matthieu joseph still under contract)
Maybe it's an odd way of thinking to you, but how about just keeping your RFA's and ottawa keeps their 3rd? This would make the trade chychrun to the leafs for a 1st. I'm fairly certain this offer won't work for you, because it doesn't heavily favor the leafs.

12 Apr 2024 03:59:00
Facelift39 N
Robertson gives Ottawa another young winger that has proven he can score playing limited minutes, that's why The Sens would want him.
DeWar is better than any of the 4th line forwards you mentioned, isn't Ottawa trying to get better?
Hamonic is in the same class as Liljegren? Ya sure he is in your world.
All the players in my proposal are RFAs not UFAs so they aren't going anywhere.
Again facts are facts Chychrun with 2 extra years on his contract went for a 1st and two 2nd Rounders.
For some reason you believe Chychrun is worth more than his going rate.
So if The Leafs had two 2nd Rounders and Ottawa kept their 3rd Rounder and NRobertson, Liljegren and DeWar were not part of the deal then it's fair?

13 Apr 2024 13:37:45
YES pinball, I would 100% click believable on chychrun to toronto for two 2nd's. I am certainly not trying to convince you or anybody that hamonic is equivalent to liljegren or that Parker kelly is equivalent to NRobertson, my point is that hamonic is under contract and likewise with zub. is ottawa really going to improve by having zub and liljegren in their top 4 on the right side and hamonic on the bottom pair? At forward, stutzle, Tkachuk, giroux, batherson, pinto, norris. would NRobertson be in their top 6? I'm going to go ahead and say no.
Joseph, kastelic, Greig, McEwen under contract for next year in the bottom 6 - I'm not suggesting these players are superior to dewar, I'm sure he's amazing on the leafs 4th line. I'm simply pointing out that they are under contract for next season. So unless ottawa can pull off a trade similar to some of the proposals you make on here, then these players will be taking spots.
To suggest ottawa would give up assets for fringe RFA's is absurd. Why not make a proposal where each of these players is involved in a sign-and-trade? I'm sure teams would be lining up around block. Ridiculous.

18 Apr 2024 22:57:03
I'd do this - puts Toronto in a salary cap bind after next season when Chychrun will want 8 mil per season.

19 Apr 2024 14:15:52
Pinball
Seriously the ratio of likes to dislikes on all of your posts through all these years isn't enough evidence to suggest you know nothing?

When are you going to pay attention to the 31 other teams in this league and what their position is on their players? You come at every trade with the same statement "the Leafs will be looking to do ___".

Assuming Ottawa is even shopping Chychrun, why would they settle for the worst return Toronto can offer just to help a division rival?

And lottery protected 1st round pick is absolutely hilarious, assuming the Leafs might potentially finish bottom 5 with the team they already have plus adding Chychrun?

19 Apr 2024 14:38:11
Adding Chychruns $4.6m would put the Leafs salary at $72.89m for players already signed til next season, out of a possible $87.7m.

You've offered 3 RFAs so there's no salary being sent back to Ottawa, and that's also 2 extra roster spots to fill out on the team.

Which means the Leafs would have $14.81 million left to complete their 22 man roster. They still don't have a starting goalie signed, they'd still need 1 more NHL defenseman, and they'd still need 5 more NHL forwards (10 forwards, 4 defenseman and 1 goalie are already signed for next season. )

$14.81m to sign 7 players, unless the Leafs want to ice AHLers to fill in those gaps which I'm sure you can agree would make them worse than they currently are.

Marner needs and extension, Tavares needs an extension, Knies needs an extension, Woll needs an extension. Oh, and Chychrun will need an extension after next season.

Lastly with this trade the Leafs would have no 1st round picks in the next 2 years which is brutal since they already have no 2nd round picks in the next 2 years. No cap space to extend and keep all the talent already there, and not enough quality prospects to fill in the rest of the gaps.

25 Mar 2024 13:54:30
At The Draft.

Ottawa Trades
BTkachuk
Hamonic
3rd Round Pick 2025*

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Holmberg
DeWar
Liljegren
Cowan (OHL)
1st Round Pick 2024
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)


*Sens have 2 picks in the 2025 3rd Round, their own and Florida's.
The Leafs will decide which one they want at The 2025 Draft.


This would be a trade proposal of the ages, Ottawa imo would look at this as they are still in a rebuild and getting this much for mostly BTkachuk could help them more for their future than not doing this proposal.
Leafs get a LWinger that brings so much to the table it would be worth trading away that much youth and future to get him, Hamonic gives them also what they need a tough right-handed shooting defenceman.



Thoughts ?

25 Mar 2024 14:48:55
Ottawa won't trade Tkachuk, especially for that horrible offer of 4th line NHLers, boarder line AHLers, unproven Junior players, and late 1st round picks.
Stop already with your daily one sided, pro leaf trade follies.

25 Mar 2024 15:40:46
islandjet1
Besides DeWar who is the 4th liner? and there are no AHLers in my proposal, Easton Cowan just set a record for conservative points in London and that's not a prospect?
Liljegren would be third in Defense scoring so that's garbage as well?
Two 1st Rounders aren't worth anything else according to you.
And Holmberg is a solid Winger/ Centre and will only get better.
Look to trade Brady Tkachuk would be a bold move but what is in my proposal is the opposite of what you just posted as besides DeWar being a 4th liner, nothing else in your view applies at all.

25 Mar 2024 22:12:48
Stop it. Ottawa wouldn't accept and the little cost controlled depth we do have should be held onto.

We are a whole ass year away from being ready to make a legitimate push. We have next to zero draft capital, our goaltending is questionable at best, and we are still missing a very solid RHD.

You overvalue our players like no other man and have no idea the value of other teams' players or their importance to their current team.

25 Mar 2024 23:35:21
Adding Tkachuk would mean $62.355 million out of a possible $87.7 million salary cap will be allocated to 6 players, 5 of which are forwards. (Matthews 13.25, Nylander 11.5, Tavares 11, Marner 10.9, Reilly 7.5 and Tkachuk at 8.205)

$24.645 million left to pay 16 players, one of which would be Samsonov looking for an extension and a raise on his current $3.55m salary.

Toronto doesn't get any closer to a Stanley cup by trading their best prospect and 2 1st round picks for another forward.

26 Mar 2024 13:19:09
DrezDave
16 players to resign?
That number is way off, you might disagree with me which you are entitled to about my proposal, but please post facts not fiction.

26 Mar 2024 13:29:39
He never said we needed to resign them he's saying we have $24.645 mill to fill out 16 roster spots. That's not enough to build a contending team. I'm sure you are seeing Vegas trade away their draft capital and are thinking man we should do that too. The difference is they have guys signed at reasonable cap hits so they have built an absolute powerhouse of a team because of it. They can afford to trade draft picks away cause they are likely 3-4 years away from some key players regressing and can wait to add prospects. We are not.

26 Mar 2024 13:32:55
$10.7 million allocated to Knies, Kampf, Reaves, Mcmann, McCabe, Timmins and Woll.

So that's $73 million out of $87 million committed to 13 players.

$14 million left to sign a starting goalie, 3 NHL caliber defenseman, and 5 other NHL caliber forwards.

You want facts? You can't ice a competitive NHL roster when 84% of your teams salary is allocated to only 13 players, none of which are the starting goalie.

26 Mar 2024 13:39:37
MG69
Leafs for next season have 13 players signed, the max on a roster is 23 players so 23 - 13 is 10 not 16, please explain where the other 6 come in?

26 Mar 2024 13:52:55
DrwDave
Woll is the starter next season not Samsonov, which I believe isn't resigned.

26 Mar 2024 14:10:05
Might as well take 2.2 mill off that Hamonic makes @DrwDave so that number now becomes 11.8 mill for two NHL caliber dmen, 5 other forwards, and I won't even say a starting goalie but another goalie to share starting duties with Will. Either way it's not enough to make a competitive cup team.

26 Mar 2024 14:40:40
Good god man he is saying the rest of the cap left over after you take away the cap hits of Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Rielly, and Tkachuk would be used on the remaining roster spots whether they are signed to us or not. He also listed the players that are signed through till next offseason and they eat up $12.9 mill. So now we are at around $11.8 mill for the remaining roster spots from either guys in our system or guys we sign. End of the day we need another NHL level goalie, at least 2 NHL level dmen, and forwards to either be signed or from our system. The number is actually even less as I didn't include Jarnkrok.

28 Mar 2024 11:06:43
Thats alot of quantity with very little quality coming from the leafs, like usual.

31 Mar 2024 11:27:05
"Thanks, I needed a good laugh. " - Steve Staios.

27 Feb 2024 16:03:37
Montreal trade with nj devils
Mtl:Allen
To
Devils: holtz
Montréal trade with la
Mtl:Savard
To
La:Turcotte and 2nd round
Mtl trade with Florida
Mtl :Dvorak and 2nd round
To
Fla: knight
Mtl trade with Anaheim
Mtl: Harris, Barron ,Winnipeg 1st , mtl 2nd round
To
Ducks: zegras

27 Feb 2024 18:11:25
- NJ trade is fair.

- LA trade is close, but I think Savard will bring a 1st + at the deadline.

- The FLA trade doesn't seem like a fit where Dvorak is done for the season. Perhaps it gets revisited as an off-season deal, but personally, as talented as Knight is, his addiction issues are a big red flag for me.

- The ANA trade is fair, but personally I don't like one-dimensional players like Zegras. He's like a Johnny Gaudreau in too many ways, and just doesn't seem like the kind of guy you go to battle with.

27 Feb 2024 18:27:27
Allen not an improvement for devils. LA has log jam on defence already, not sure they want Savard. Why knight? Seems to much for Zegras. So I’m guessing no on all. ?.

27 Feb 2024 23:04:52
Allen is a 33 year old backup goalie

28 Feb 2024 01:15:23
Log jam on d in la , who? Besides doughty? Savard is an upgrade
Devils: all 3 of their goalies are below 900 save% and are over 3.2 goals per game , Allen has similar number albeit on a bottom 5 nhl team , so imo Allen is an upgrade
Knight might be worth the gamble
And mtl ain’t getting Zegras for much less if not more

28 Feb 2024 04:05:11
Spence and Clarke are 2 good young RHD but their LHD deepth is another thing.

28 Feb 2024 17:15:17
Good points on Allen sidekick. I see him as a 1B that could come to a team without spooking a starter. (Goalies always have a more delicate psyche. to say the least. ) Allen is a good, short-term solution for someone. He's playing on a lousy team and his numbers reflect that.

16 Feb 2024 10:06:09
CGY receives: 2024 2nd round pick, 2024 4th round pick

FLA receives: Coleman



Coleman chases another cup in florida

16 Feb 2024 18:54:57
- I really like guys like Coleman for playoff additions, and I think a 2nd & 4th is fair value.

- the 2nd would have to be a 2025 2nd (FLA doesn't own their '24 2nd)

- the trade would need to be revised to send back a minor salary & roster player to CGY to help FLA remain cap & roster compliant.

- the only downside to Coleman is he's got 3 more seasons after this at 4.9M. As much as I like the player, FLA may prefer a player with less salary and term.

17 Feb 2024 11:53:13
Why wouldn’t Coleman be able to fetch a 1st? Monahan got a 1st and a 3rd, is only 3 years younger, UFA and is pretty bad defensively.

Coleman
- better two way player
- plays all 3 forward positions
- +22
- 43pts in 54gp

Monahan
- injury history
- rental
- -12
- 35pts in 53gp

compare their analytics, Coleman is the far more effective player so why wouldn’t he be able to fetch a 1st if someone like Laughton will most likely get one.

17 Feb 2024 15:58:19
CASUAL: The big reason WPG needed Monahan is that they’re terrible with face offs.

I like Coleman, but at 32, and being signed for 3 more years at 4.9M, I don’t think that brings a 1st. If I’m FLA I’d rather find a cheaper version of Coleman on a shorter deal.

17 Feb 2024 16:34:34
At first I thought Coleman as 4.9M at his age and term is a cap dump but had no clue how good of a season he’s having. Not sure what his value is but can’t really compare it to Monahan. Monahans cap made it really easy for any team to pick him up.

12 Oct 2023 23:54:36
To Florida Panthers :
LD - Noah Hanifin ( 4.95 @ 1 UFA )

To Calgary Flames :
RW - Sam Reinhart ( 6.50 @ 1 UFA )

13 Oct 2023 02:36:54
Fair deal.

13 Oct 2023 13:27:07
- this is a fair exchange of value of 2 pending UFAs.

- FLA has 7 left-shot D, and good as Hanifin is, they are unlikely to acquire another LD.

- I think it’s unlikely the cats trade Reinhart after his gutsy performance last year. My guess is that he extends at some point. He and the organization seem like a great mutual fit for each other.

14 Oct 2023 03:52:12
I personally don't see either team doing that near. They're both important players but will depend on the season. Hanifan is gonna be traded almost one hundred percent but I don't see Florida giving up on Reinhart unless they're way out and get really good assets, Hanifan is gonna get probably 3 mil raise and can't see Reinhart get much of a raise also so maybe calgary would be interested for that reason.

25 Jul 2023 16:41:29
Karlsson and burns don't like each other. Maybe why its taking a bit. Sj: Karlsson (2m retained) Carolina: burns, pesce, 1st Florida: Reinhart ,Evan Nause,1st So Sj would receive 1st,1st, nause. Carolina get Karlsson and Reinhart. Florida gets burns and pesce. A lot of ntc to work around but wonder if Carolina would trade burns to make Karlsson happy.

07 Aug 2023 02:53:15
Pens beat us to it.

04 Jul 2023 04:17:47
To Calgary Flames :
RW - William Nylander ( 6.96 @ 1 UFA )

To Toronto Maple Leafs :
D - Noah Hanifin ( 4.95 @ 1 UFA )
3rd Round Pick in 2026 - CGY
C - Mikael Backlund ( 2.67 @ 1 UFA )
(50% Salary Retention on Backlund)


To Calgary Flames :
C/RW - Sam Reinhart ( 6.50 @ 1 UFA )
Conditional 1st Round Pick in 2026 - FLA
(If Lindholm doesn’t resign, the pick turns into a 2nd in 2025)

To Florida Panthers :
C - Elias Lindholm ( 4.85 @ 1 UFA )


Apparently the Leafs are interested in a lot of Flames players but they are hesitant to trade with Treliving, which is odd. Nylander contract negotiations aren’t going well because it’s rumoured he wants 9-10 million, I think the Flames would most likely pay that price. Both Reinhart and Nylander’s fathers are former Flames, Nylander is from Calgary aswell. They want people who they think would stay. Backlund is exactly the type of player they need for the playoffs and at 50% retained salary I think he’d hold alot of value. Colorado is rumoured to be very interested in Backlund.


J Huberdeau - S Reinhart - W Nylander
J Pelletier - N Kadri - M Coronato
D Dube - Y Sharangovich - A Mangiapane
A Ruzicka - B Coleman - W Duehr

M Weegar - R Andersson
O Kylington - C Tanev
N Zadorov - J Oesterle


T Bertuzzi - A Matthews - M Marner
M Knies - J Tavares - M Domi
N Robertson - M Backlund - C Jarnkrok
S Lafferty - D Kampf - R Reaves

N Hanifin - M Rielly
J McCabe - J Klingberg
M Giordano - T Brodie


C Verhaeghe - A Barkov - M Tkachuk
E Rodrigues - E Lindholm - S Bennett
E Luostarinen - A Lundell - S Lorentz
R Lomberg - N Cousins - K Stenlund

O Ekman-Larsson - A Ekblad
G Forsling - B Montour
N Mikkola - M Reilly

04 Jul 2023 15:59:30
Like it.

04 Jul 2023 21:17:17
I’d do the Nylander trade if the flames took Murray or added a 2nd. Backlund makes a lot of sense but Hanfin wouldn’t be my 1st choice to target.

04 Jul 2023 23:49:47
Replace Hanafin with Tanev. And I would argue that since you want CGY retaining salary that the 3rd would go the other way. And add Liljegren.

05 Jul 2023 01:05:23
Maybe hanifan and backlund, no retention, but hanifin and backlund on great deal only if for 1 year, less than nylander by himself it sounds like. Can't see calgary retaining a cent on either contract unless nylander will take a bit less to play in calgary with extention in place.

05 Jul 2023 03:22:34
@Shootsmcgee Nylander doesn’t seem like the type to take discounts lol Nylander is using Marner for contract comparison when realistically Nylander should get what Meier got.

05 Jul 2023 20:31:17
Notcasual . Nylander may take a bit discount for going home, not much but if he wants to win, no go. hanifin and backlund are gone so maybe keep nylander for 1 year or more have a more complete roster. Truly would rather have both backlund and hanifin over nylander but both teams having troubles.

24 Jun 2023 19:25:45
Summer of Conny

To Carolina
Tyler Toffoli 50% Retained (2.125)

To Calgary
Jack Drury
Ronan Seeley
2023 30th Overall

To Florida
Noah Hanifin

To Calgary
Anthony Duclair
Mackie Samoskevich
Justin Sourdif

To Anaheim
Dan Vladar

To Calgary
2023 3rd Round 65th Overall

Carolina gets scoring help with Toffoli on a cheap contract. Calgary gets future help

Another Calgary Florida trade. Florida needs D help really bad. Flames would hope that Duclair would help Huberdeau and Lindholm resigns. Plus because I think Hanifin has a ton of value THIS off-season, Flames could also get 2 solid prospects.

Need to trade Vladar and saw that he was linked to Anaheim so just throwing it out there lol

24 Jun 2023 22:00:33
I like the trades except the Florida one tbh

24 Jun 2023 23:15:20
I think Hanfin gets more then that but not as much as the absurd price NotACasual thinks.

25 Jun 2023 19:02:56
NotACasual
Originally had defensive prospect Evan Nause in the trade as well but thought it was maybe an overpayment

22 Jun 2023 03:10:01
To Calgary Flames :
W - Anthony Duclair ( 3.00 @ 1 UFA )

To Florida Panthers :
D - Nikita Zadorov ( 3.75 @ 1 UFA )

22 Jun 2023 14:55:36
might need pick going to florida or maybe they could target hanifan as a guy for there top 4.

22 Jun 2023 21:39:07
No one wants Zandorov.

22 Jun 2023 23:08:18
@meandme they don’t have the assets to acquire Hanifin

15 Jun 2023 15:13:01
To Ottawa Senators: Spencer Knight, Sam Bennett


To Florida Panthers: Alex Debrincat, 2nd Round pick in (2024), Lassi Thomson

15 Jun 2023 16:44:31
- Definitely one of the more interesting ideas on here lately!

- FLA needs scoring, and OTT needs a Goalie, so perhaps a fit can be found.

- I can't FLA parting with Bennett, and they only have 10M to fill 6 roster spots, so Debrincat would be hard to fit in long-term. (Unless you involve a 3rd team)

- FLA has 3 good goalies, so it makes sense they'd trade one, but with Knight in the NHL/ NHLPA Treatment Program it's definitely a risky move.

- OTT needs a good young Goalie to grow with, but addiction issues are impossible to predict or risk manage. (I'd have a hard time acquiring Knight unless it was at pennies on the dollar. )

15 Jun 2023 20:37:53
I like it a lot, very realistic.

19 Jun 2023 22:31:42
Nooooo.

14 Jun 2023 17:12:16
Winnipeg
Scheifele

Calgary
Elias Lindholm (resigns 2 years @ 5mil)

Winnipeg Gets: Girard, Lehkonen, 2023-1st, 2023-3rd


Avalanche Gets: Dubois


Kings
Moore
Danault
Durzi
Copley

Jets
Hellebuyck
Stanley
Heinola
2025-2nd and 3rd

Jets
Wheeler

Chicago
2023-3rd(dallas)
2025-4th(rangers)
Blackwell

Jets
Pionk
2024-3rd

Florida
Montour(resigns @ 3 years 4.75 million)


Potential free agent Targets: Toews, Dumba, JVR, E.Johnson, Jordan Staal, Hornqvist, Bertuzzi, Tatar, F.Anderson, Killorn, Orlov, Brossoit, Nedeljkovic, Raanta


Jets lines: Forwards
Connor-Lindholm-Ehlers
Niederreiter-Danault-Lehkonen
Barron-Lowry-Appleton
Blackwell-Stenlund-AJF
Defense
Morrissey-Montour
Girard-Durzi
Dillon-Schmidt

Goalies:
Raanta
Copley

I can see the jets signing someone like Toews, Dumba and Raanta.
Potential signings, Tatar, Bertuzzi, JVR, Orlov.

The trades builds a different forward core and they bring in centers to fill those to caps on the top 2 lines. They bring in lehkonen who can be productive in the regular season and be quite helpful in the playoffs.

They also improve on Defense with the pickups of montour, durzi and Girard. I should've added a schmidt trade, but i can see the jets trading schmidt, but who really knows with them.

To be honest I don't see them trading any players besides dubois.

14 Jun 2023 19:22:41
Apparently Lindholm wants to go to the free agency market and if that's the case it makes absolutely no sense for Winnipeg. I'd also value Lindholm higher than Scheifele, they put up similar numbers but Lindy is cheaper, Selke calibre and younger (not by much).

15 Jun 2023 00:16:13
I don't see Calgary doing the 1st one.

Not enough for Dubois. The last thing Winnipeg needs is another LHD, they have too many as it is, so Girard has no value to the Jets. Lehkonen is too old to consider in return for PLD. The Jets want youth with team control.

The Jets won't be looking to get older if trading Hellebuyck. The deal needs to be built around Byfield, Clarke or Spence, sunbathing like that. Young players with team control. Not vets on the back 9. Apparently though LA wants PLD, not Hellebuyck.

Wheeler isn't waiving for Chicago, nor would they want him.


Florida declines.

15 Jun 2023 03:21:58
Not enough for Dubois? At Lehkonens cap hit, his value is probably similar. No from Colorado.

15 Jun 2023 07:11:22
Lol at Lindholm signing at 5 mil. When Kevin Hayes is making 7 mil. He will get a Guadreau contract.

15 Jun 2023 16:23:38
Memarcus. You don't think wheeler may want to go play 1st line minutes with Bedard instead of way less with Winnipeg? Get his stock up so a contender will actually want him for a playoff run next year? his contract is very hard to trade to a contender as is so may be his best shot a picking a team next year trade deadline.

18 May 2023 06:24:43
To WINNIPEG JETS :
C/RW - Troy Terry ( RFA )

To MONTREAL CANADIENS :
C/LW - Pierre-Luc Dubois ( RFA )

To ANAHEIM DUCKS :
1st Round Selection in 2023 - FLA
C - Christian Dvorak ( 4.45 @ 2 UFA )
D - Justin Barron ( 925k @ 1 RFA )

18 May 2023 13:49:11
I like Terry, but I don't think the Jets would want a winger that in all likelihood won't extend in return.

18 May 2023 15:13:46
The Jets should get a better return for PLD than this proposal.

19 May 2023 06:44:24
For Dubois the Jets should be easily be able to get a solid prospect plus a first round pick.

19 May 2023 18:01:04
5th overall straight up for Terry. That trades awful. Unless if you’re drafting Michkov you hope 5th overall one day becomes as good as Terry.

26 May 2023 15:46:15
How is Terry not a good return? He's arguably better than Dubois

15 May 2023 07:11:43
To Chicago
Suzuki
Slafkovsky
23 1st
23 1st from Florida.
24 1st
25 1st


To Montreal
2023 1st

15 May 2023 22:40:36
I don't care how much this would hamstring the Habs. nobody is worth that much.

16 May 2023 06:01:24
Bedard is.

17 May 2023 01:10:14
I do actually agree with ya Seabass. im just wishing Habs could finally have a star forward. but, yes my proposal was a little out there haha.

17 May 2023 12:31:28
MTL passes.

05 May 2023 04:02:52
PLD to the Habs for Josh Anderson,Christian Dvorak and a 2nd.Or Florida's 1st and one of the above.
Winnipeg has little leverage if Dubois wants out and to Mtl.They can ask for the stars but will only get offered glitter.Les Canadian's can just wait until PLD's UFA status and give up nada.

05 May 2023 13:40:06
Unlikely Anderson waives for Winnipeg and no chance Winnipeg takes him as a long term cap dump along with another bad contract in Dvorak. The Jets can easily get more than that for PLD as a pure rental and with Friedman saying Dubois is willing to go to multiple teams and being an RFA, the Jets have plenty of leverage.

05 May 2023 14:45:27
I agree about Anderson but I believe Dvorak has two years left until UFA. So I could see him and a 1st or prospect.
Depends on where Dubois willing to go and which club is open to take him and his persona on as a rental or LTC.
As a RFA, Jets got to match to retain and if he receives a crazy offer they may not due to cap space.
Or, he could just wait until his UFA kicks in.

05 May 2023 15:47:19
What do you mean as an RFA, the Jets have to match to retain. Are you talking about an offer sheet? He'll be traded before that is possible.

PLD should return something similar to Horvat now that we know he is willing to go to other teams and being younger, better and having more team control.

05 May 2023 20:00:48
If PLD doesn't sign a long term with the Jets by the draft then trade him to a team that is willing to trade the Jets one top line forward.

12 May 2023 14:58:49
If bidding starts for PLD, I doubt the habs are going to make a move. They don't want to thin out their prospect pool just for a year of Dubois, especially with rumours of him wanting to come as an UFA the next summer.

The deal as is is probably not a great one for Winnipeg.

02 May 2023 14:00:45
To Winnipeg Jets :
1st Round Pick in 2023 ( MIN )
C - Marco Rossi ( 863K @ 2 RFA )
LW - Sam Steel ( RFA )

To Minnesota Wild :
C - Mark Scheifele ( 6.12 @ 1 UFA )
D - Logan Stanley ( RFA )



To Winnipeg Jets :
1st Round Pick in 2023 ( CGY )
C/LW - Connor Zary ( 863K @ 2 RFA )
LW - Dillon Dube ( 2.30 @ 1 RFA )

To Calgary Flames :
LW - Nikolaj Ehlers ( 6.00 @ 2 UFA )



To Winnipeg Jets :
1st Round Pick in 2023 ( FLA )
C - Christian Dvorak ( 4.45 @ 2 UFA )
D - Justin Barron ( 925K @ 1 RFA )

To Montreal Canadiens :
C - Pierre-Luc Dubois ( RFA )



Winnipeg acquires (3) 1st round picks in this year’s draft and sheds cap space for potential free agent signings. Winnipeg needs a retool after losing in the first round and Scheifele, Dubois and Stanley wanting out.



Kyle Connor - Chaz Lucius - Blake Wheeler
Cole Perfetti - Marco Rossi - Nino Niederreiter
Dillon Dube - Christian Dvorak - Morgan Barron
Sam Steel - Adam Lowry - Mason Appleton

Josh Morrissey - Neal Pionk
Nate Schmidt - Justin Barron
Brendan Dillon - Dylan Demelo

Connor Hellebuyck
David Rittich



Potential Free Agent Targets :
Jonathan Toews, Sean Monahan, Matt Dumba, Jordan Staal, Jason Zucker, Patric Hornqvist, Evgenii Dadonov, Alexander Kerfoot.

02 May 2023 16:08:18
I would hope that the Jets wouldn't do any of those trades.
Extra cap space doesn't help the Jets sign top free agents as its hard for them to convince players to sign to play in Winnipeg.
Getting 3rd/ 4th line players in return doesn't do much to improve the team at all.
I know the Jets may not be in a powerful trading position as of now but by the draft teams may pay more to outbid competitors for any Jet players being offered in trade.

02 May 2023 19:00:20
i might be interested in ehlers but i think the flames should keep there 23 first.

02 May 2023 19:25:18
I doubt Minnesota would move Rossi and will have trouble fitting Scheifele with all the dead cap they have.

Maybe on the Calgary one. It depends how much the Jets like Zary and Dube.

With Dubois being willing to go to more teams than Montreal, with any luck the Jets won't have to worry about getting stuck with a bad contract like Dvorak as part of the return.


But from the latest Chevy speech, it doesn't sound like a rebuild is happening just a restructuring, so Ehlers probably won't be available and likely only one of Scheifele or PLD.

03 May 2023 02:16:14
Yeah, honestly I have no idea if any of these would be close. Just wanted to post some ideas lol

03 May 2023 15:45:03
The Scheifele trade is not bad, although it is a bit of a gamble for Minnesota. They're thin on center depth and this trade would help them a lot but I think they might would've liked more term on Scheifele's contract, since they're giving up good assets in Rossi and their first.

PLD trade should work value-wise, but I'm not sure if the habs would want to give up Barron. He's been pretty good for his stint with them and looks like he has solid top 4 potential. The habs are a bit thin in D propects so I'm not sure they would want to trade one of their best away, especially considering there's a good chance they pick a forward with their early first round pick.

03 May 2023 19:48:47
Not too bad. PLD gets more from a contender imo tho.

PLD ( 8 year extension ) for Byfield would be a cool trade.

19 Apr 2023 15:31:13
Another Pier-Luc Dubois trade to MTL :

Jets : PLD (would probably need to include a handshake agreement for an extension at the season start)
MTL : 2023 1st rounder (Florida's pick), 2023 4th rounder, Owen Beck, Christian Dvorak

MTL gets a solid top 6 center with top line potential who could sign a team friendly deal assuming he really wants to play at home, as reported.

WPG gets a 1st in a deep draft, a solid two way center prospect in Beck, a 3rd line center in Dvorak with a cap controlled contract and an additional 4th rounder. WPG can now then sign one of the many 2nd line centers available in free agency so that they stay competitive next year instead of losing PLD for nothing next year (assuming they would have made the playoffs)

19 Apr 2023 17:17:18
That should be a competitive offer. 1st, decent prospect, pick, and meh bottom sixer, albeit with a bad contract.

With any luck Dvorak won't clear a medical from his injury and the Jets won't have to worry about getting stuck with him. But, overall it should get some consideration.

19 Apr 2023 17:57:15
is montreal after the cup next year I only see them going after him once he's a free agent.

19 Apr 2023 23:55:28
What a joke of a trade.
The Jets won't trade him to the Habs unless they get a decent return.
If the Jets can't sign PLD to a long term deal by the draft they should trade him to a team that he will want to play for like Tampa, Florida, Colorado NYR or LA.

20 Apr 2023 03:36:24
I can’t imagine why MTL trades consequential pieces for a good (but not “great”) player that they can simply sign for zero assets a year later?

Why would a rebuilding team, that is not going to contend next year, give up picks and prospects for a player when they can simply add him one year later…IF they actually want him…for nothing?

Hopefully this is an EASY pass from MTL. Hopefully this management team isn’t going to make PR trades for Québécois players in favour of hockey trades.

23 Apr 2023 14:41:51
@Chickenfoot I do agree with your take but my offer gives a guarantee to actually be able to sign him to a contract and gives a full year to negotiate a team-friendly extension.

Come July of next year, he will be a coveted free agent. Teams tend to overbid during free agency and even if Dubois wants to sign here, there’s a good chance MTL will have to overbid to acquire him. They might not be the team that gives him the best contract and they’ll have a good chance to sign him if he truly wants to play at home but, the contract needs to be at least on par with the other offers. MTL has a greater chance of anchoring themselves with a heavy contract if they sign him as a free agent.

MTL has a chance to build a core of young players signed to reasonable contracts and that would give them a lot of flexibility down the road when they’re more competitive.

I think it’s something to consider

24 Apr 2023 18:01:34
MATADOR: I stand by my original comment. It’s an easy no. Why trade one of those pieces when you can sign him next July 1st for nothing? To trade all of those pieces is, I’m sorry to say, absolutely ridiculous.

24 Apr 2023 23:42:04
I agree Montreal shouldn’t go after PLD but saying they can sign him for free is ridiculous. All 32 teams will be offering PLD a contract yes it’s his hometown but there are places where he can make more money due to taxes and better places to live LA/ New York for an example.

26 Apr 2023 14:21:15
@Chickenfoot

I can understand not wanting to trade away those pieces but Dubois is a good center with really good offensive upside and pretty good advanced stats. If you have a chance to build your center core of Suzuki and Dubois with team friendly deals, that gives you great leeway for bolstering your roster down the line, cap-wise.

You're giving a mid to late first round pick, a 4th, a B+ prospect in Beck who projects to be a 3rd liner, maybe 2nd and Dvorak, a 3rd line center with limited offense, who is already 27 and who is slightly overpaid and has surprisingly absolutely horrendous advanced stats.

Everyone is saying they can sign him July first no biggie but the reality of free agency is that a lot of players just end up signing the best deals for their careers. Getting him with a one year deal is great for contract negotiations. It's a difference between giving him a 8x7M and giving him a 7x9M in free agency, since he'll be coveted by a lot of teams.

26 Apr 2023 19:36:16
Hey Matador, I admire your conviction, but perhaps I don’t value Dubois quite as highly.

He is good…but not “great”, or a “must have”. Scouts don’t always see the same player the same way.

He has been good in WPG, but if I’m making the decision, I’ll just take my chances on him in Free Agency. If I get him for my price, great. If I don’t, I’m okay with that too.

The player has expressed his preferred place to play, but given his fickle approach to CLB and WPG, maybe he’ll quit on his next team too? The way he quit on CLB, mid-shift, was something I will never forget.

27 Apr 2023 13:33:24
VB. you are the most unintentionally hilarious person on this page.

I love that you mentioned NY & LA as more attractive tax-wise. California has the highest state income taxes, and New York is 7th highest. (I guess he's lucky you're not his tax advisor. )

Players in DAL, SEA, VGK, or either Florida team, pay zero state income tax. If keeping as much of his salary is his prime motivation, and why not, NY & LA aren't even close.

11 Apr 2023 17:36:09
Fire
Darryl Sutter - Head Coach
Kirk Muller - Associate Coach
Cail MacLean - Assistant Coach
Jordan Sigalet - Senior Goaltending Coach
Jason Labarbera - Goaltending Coach
Jamie Pringle - Video

Promote
Mitch Love - Head Coach (AHL Head Coach)

Not Resigning
F - Trevor Lewis
F - Nick Ritchie
F - Milan Lucic


Trades

to Calgary Flames :
2nd Round Pick in 2023 ( FLA )

to Florida Panthers :
D - Nikita Zadorov ( 3.75 @ 1 UFA )


to Calgary Flames :
2nd Round Pick in 2023 ( DET )
4th Round Pick in 2023 ( MIN )

to Detroit Red Wings :
G - Daniel Vladar ( 2.20 @ 2 UFA )




Jonathan Huberdeau - Elias Lindholm - Tyler Toffoli
Jakob Pelletier - Nazem Kadri - Matt Coronato
Andrew Mangiapane - Mikael Backlund - Blake Coleman
Dillon Dube - Matthew Phillips - Walker Duehr

Noah Hanifin - Rasmus Andersson
MacKenzie Weegar - Chris Tanev
Oliver Kylington - Troy Stecher

Jacob Markstrom
Dustin Wolf

15 Apr 2023 04:41:21
Personally I think zadorov for a 2nd to the right team but not vladar. He might get a 4th only.

17 Apr 2023 19:33:41
The Flames are officially a dysfunctional organization.

Treliving was a keeper, and Sutter was the one who should have walked the plank. When ownership made it clear Sutter was returning, Treliving chose to walk. Wrong choice Flames, but right choice Tre.

Sutter has clearly lost the room, and comments on locker clean out day confirmed that and then some.

Tre did a great job attempting to staunch the loss of Tkachuk and Johnny Cocaine. It didn’t work out, but Markstrom couldn’t make a save, and Sutter went from Jack Adams to the guy no one wants to go to work with anymore.

Calgary’s ownership model has always been a challenge for getting the right decisions made for the right reasons, and they just proved it again.

19 Apr 2023 17:58:54
if the flames go that route i think they should get 1 more goalie to help ease wolf into the nhl.

23 Apr 2023 13:33:05
Vladar = 2nd?! Wow.

03 Apr 2023 06:14:45
to Winnipeg Jets :
1st Round Selection in 2026
C - Anton Lundell ( 925k @ 1 RFA )

to Florida Panthers :
C - Mark Scheifele ( 6.12 @ 1 UFA )



to Winnipeg Jets :
FLA’s 1st Round Selection in 2023
C/LW - Christian Dvorak ( 4.45 @ 2 UFA )
D - Justin Barron ( 925k @ 1 RFA )

to Montreal Canadiens :
C/LW - Pierre-Luc Dubois ( RFA )




M Tkachuk - A Barkov - S Reinhart
C Verhaeghe - M Scheifele - A Duclair
E Luostarinen - S Bennett - C White
G Smith - N Cousins - R Lomberg


K Connor - A Lundell - B Wheeler
N Ehlers - C Perfetti - N Niederreiter
C Dvorak - C Lucius - M Appleton
M Barron - A Lowry - K Stenlund


P Dubois - N Suzuki - C Caufield
J Slafkovsky - K Dach - B Gallagher
M Hoffman - S Farrell - J Anderson
H Pinard - J Evans - J Armia

03 Apr 2023 13:36:11
I'm not sold on Lundell being anything special anymore and there's probably no chance the Jets wait 4 drafts for a 1st.

Value wise, the Montreal deal looks about right. Although with Dvorak being out with knee surgery, I would want the Jets to pass on him. Until he comes back, plays and shows he is 100%, he's just not worth taking a chance on and PLD will have been traded by then.

03 Apr 2023 18:02:43
The Jets lose big time in this trade.

04 Apr 2023 03:07:13
Lundell has about as high as of chance of being moved as Perfetti.

04 Apr 2023 21:34:50
Easy no from MTL.

MTL should make as many picks as they can, and wait a year for PLD if that’s what they want.

I’m not sold on PLD as others seem to be, but I can’t imagine some of these packages being discussed would be taken very seriously.

MTL won’t be challenging for a playoff berth, let alone a Cup next year. If PLD is of interest, wait 12 months and save your assets.

19 Feb 2023 14:42:48
Just seen Renidrag's post and i wanted to attempt my own version.


Canucks trade D Luke Schenn to CGY for a 2024 3RD RD Pick
Canucks trade F Brock Boeser (30% Retained Salary) to MIN for F Jordan Greenway and 2023 2ND RD Pick
Canucks trade F Conor Garland to NSH for D Dante Fabbro and 2023 2ND RD Pick
Canucks trade D Tyler Myers to OTT for D Nikita Zaitsev and 2023 2ND RD Pick
Canucks trade D Riley Stillman to FLA for 2024 3RD RD Pick and 2023 4TH RD Pick


IN :
2024 3RD RD Pick (CGY)
F Jordan Greenway
2023 2ND RD Pick (MIN)
D Dante Fabbro
2023 2ND RD Pick (NSH)
D Nikita Zaistev
2023 2ND RD Pick (OTT)
2024 3RD RD Pick (FLA)
2023 4TH RD Pick (FLA)

OUT :
D Luke Schenn
F Brock Boeser
F Conor Garland
D Tyler Myers
D Riley Stillman


Andrei Kuzmenko - Elias Pettersson - Nils Hoglander
Jordan Greenway - JT Miller - Ilya Mikheyev
Anthony Beauvillier - Jack Studnicka - Vasily Podkolzin
Tanner Pearson - Curtis Lazar - Dakota Joshua

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - Dante Fabbro
Quinn Hughes - Ethan Bear
Travis Dermott - Nikita Zaitsev

Thatcher Demko
Spencer Martin

19 Feb 2023 03:42:27
Eckblad =====> Edm

Florida
2023 1st,Ceci,Yamamoto.Holloway.

19 Feb 2023 11:36:39
Huge no from FLA wtf

19 Feb 2023 17:54:40
I don't see Ekblad being traded out of Florida, unless it would be a 1-for-1 with a really good player.

19 Feb 2023 20:55:14
I can see this one because with Ekblad’s concussion history, this package would go be very tempting for to switch course. How many more concussions can Ekblad possibly take? I’d give it good consideration if I was FLA.

27 Feb 2023 20:15:38
I can see Eckblad gone. He’s struggling and hesitant. I thought that the Panthers would go after Chykrun. They need more defense, someone other than Gudas. Bring back Eric Gudbranson!