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26 Aug 2023 22:17:21
WPG
Scheifele
Heinola
NYR
Chytil
Schneider.
NYR owner is not very patient and with NYR signing Wheeler. Why not trade for his buddy Scheifele. The reason for Schneider being included is that it's either him or a 1st RD pick.
Chytil may not be as good Offensively as Scheifele but matches size and is better defensively.
Hellebuyck is a huge question mark.
Also think the Winnipeg Jets should sign Nolan Patrick
Max Comtois
They both need new starts.
Patrick closer to home. And well Max Comtois would bring size and toughness back to the team.
Winnipeg Jets were a good team last year but played way too soft. They need toughness, grit, sandpaper type players.
As of right now the Jets fate will be a repeat of last year or a little worse.
1.) 27 Aug 2023 15:49:33
I sadly agree with MuzzaO1 view on how the Jets played last few seasons.
I think this trade is fair for both teams and I like the free agent signing of Patrick.
Scheifele needs a change and Heinola needs a fair chance which he would get in NY.
2.) 27 Aug 2023 16:10:08
Rangers didn't wanna give up Schneider for Eichel, I doubt they trade him for Scheifele.
3.) 27 Aug 2023 17:22:45
NotACasual the biggest difference between Scheifele and Eichel is that Eichel may never of played again from his neck injury and Scheifele scored 43 goals last season and is $4 mil per year cheaper. That is why the win now Rangers might do this trade.
4.) 27 Aug 2023 17:52:56
As nice as the trade looks for Winnipeg, I think there is almost no chance the Rangers trade Schneider.
16 Aug 2023 01:21:11
WPG
Scheifele
Heinola
NYR
Chytil
Schneider
WPG
Hellebuyck
Stanley
DET
Husso
Rasmussen
Walman.
Trading Hellebuyck would be hard. Especially with his demands. I'm thinking there is only a small # of teams willing to trade for him.
* Husso is a good goalie and Rasmussen I believe can be a really good two way player (Center). Walman a decent defenseman would be a great return for franchise goalie.
Detroit made improvements this summer. Hellebuyck (Michigan Born) would turn them into a playoff team. We all know anything can happen in the playoffs.
1.) 16 Aug 2023 04:45:49
I don't see any chance that the Rangers trade Schneider.
Detroit isn't a Hellebuyck away from being a playoff team and Helle wants to win, so he probably wouldn't extend there. Walman is an LHD which is the absolute last thing the Jets need and he's 27. He would hold no value to Winnipeg. Rasmussen is meh, so unlikely he would be considered a major piece by the Jets.
2.) 16 Aug 2023 18:28:34
The Jets would win both trades and would only be considered at the trade deadline.
If both NYR and Detroit were in the need to add players that would help them in the playoffs this trade would interest them.
15 Jul 2023 18:10:45
So what I'm seeing in a few articles
WPG
Scheifele
NYR
Chytil
2024-2RD
Not a bad trade!
But what if Winnipeg and TB pull off a deal.
WPG
Scheifele
Stanley
TB
Cirelli
Cernak
Or
WPG
Scheifele
TB
Cirelli
The salaries will offset each other. This year anyway. Scheifele better offensively, Cirelli better defensively and younger. But I think Cirelli could handle playing top line with right line mates.
Also seeing
WPG
Hellebuyck
BUF
Luukonen
Krebs.
Also a decent trade.
1.) 15 Jul 2023 19:49:41
The Ranger one isn't too bad, but can the Rangers afford the cap?
There's no reason for Tampa to do those two.
Luukkonen doesn't have much if any value and Krebs on his own isn't enough, so Buffalo needs to add.
2.) 16 Jul 2023 03:52:53
Rangers trade only maybe. Other 2 are weird.
3.) 17 Jul 2023 13:44:05
- Ranger trade is fair.
- TB just signed Cirelli, so trading him would be the ultimate bad-faith move. There are good reasons that doesn't happen outside of a "sign and trade" situation, which is also rare.
- BUF trade doesn't offer Helly's proper value.
4.) 17 Jul 2023 18:46:13
Man Ceranak is extremely valuable. Probably worth 3 1sts. Definitely worth way more then Cirelli. If Pesce was signed long term at same cap hit they’d be equal.
14 Jul 2023 19:53:09
WPG
Hellebuyck
Heinola
EDM
Bouchard
Campbell
Jets get Bouchard to play with Morrissey on top pairing. Campbell to play 1A and 1B with Brossoit.
Edm gets an All Star goalie that they've been lacking and Heinola, who given a chance might be a really good.
Bouchard is totally an upgrade on Heinola but
Hellebuyck is totally upgrade over Campbell.
Oilers have a better chance winning a cup than Winnipeg. As for Hellebuyck's interest.
Oilers possibility having trouble signing Bouchard for what he thinks he is worth.
This trade probably makes Oilers weaker on defence but Hellebuyck in the last few years have faced the most shots in the league. So nothing new to him.
1.) 14 Jul 2023 21:39:15
Campbell will cost a lot more than that to dump, especially if you want to return Hellebuyck.
2.) 14 Jul 2023 23:06:24
Oil wouldn’t trade a RHD with the potential Bouchard has for a UFA goalie. Also Bouchard doesn’t have arbitration rights so he signs for what the Oil offer or he sits out for a year.
3.) 15 Jul 2023 00:27:50
Bouchard is a decent start to get Helly from the Jets, but Campbell is a no go. Also adding Heinola would increase what the Oilers would have to give the Jets in return.
4.) 15 Jul 2023 19:49:13
You think Hellebuyck gets a 23 year old, 40 point offensive RHD with 60+ point potential that is likely to be reached next season? And it’s only a start?
5.) 16 Jul 2023 04:02:47
Hellybuck return is gonna be disappointing for jets fans. Oilers not trading Bouchard unless its a lot just like jets and Hellybuck and definitely would rather have Bouchard regardless. Hellybuck is old now, 3 years ago it would be anything for him. Still good but on the wrong side of 30.
6.) 17 Jul 2023 13:46:32
- EBS & JET nailed it.
- Campbell is a basket case and will require a serious asset to move. He just isn't strong enough or capable enough to be an NHL starter. (That deal made NO sense for EDM then or now. )
7.) 25 Jul 2023 14:45:29
Chickenfoot, if you read this, I'm gonna predict Campbell is gonna be in the vezina race end of next year. He's seems comfortable now.
24 Jul 2022 04:12:33
WPG
Dubois
Gustafsson
MTL
Dach
Dvorak
I don't believe WPG will get much in this trade.
Dach and Dvorak might be pushing it.
Might be Dubois for Dach straight up. I believe HABS hold all the cards on this trade.
WPG
Scheifele
NYI
Barzal
WPG
Wheeler
MIN
Duhaime
Foligno.
Connor Barzal Foligno
Ehlers Dach Perfetti
Barron Dvorak Appleton
Duhaime Lowry Toninato
Morrissey Dillon
Samberg Pionk
Stanley Demelo
Hellebuyck
Rittich
Completely changed the face of the Jets.
Size and speed.
1.) 24 Jul 2022 04:25:59
There is no chance Winnipeg does the Montreal deal. They give up the two most valuable players and get far, far less that Dubois gets on his own at the TDL in 2 years. Why world Chevy move dubious fir less than he gets as a pure rental in 2 years?
The Islanders don't do the second deal.
Minnesota can't afire the 3rd.
2.) 24 Jul 2022 05:22:28
Then come up with a counter trade!
Cause I can’t see Habs really offering that much for a guy they know they could have for nothing in 2 yrs.
JETS will want to get the best offer they can. But with
Dubois making his plans public. No other teams are going to trade anything for either. So I’d say Chevy’s hands are tied. If Dubois kept quit about his plans, just kept it in house. Then maybe Chevy would have leverage. But now he has nothing. May not get anything for Dubois. Who knows ??♂️?
3.) 24 Jul 2022 05:25:50
Minnesota can't afford the 3rd.
4.) 24 Jul 2022 05:39:11
Why would Winnipeg not be able to trade Dubois as a rental?
Everything you've mentioned is speculation. Dubois hasn't said he'll only play for Montreal, just that he wouldn't mind playing there. But just like Gaudreau, Montreal is going to have to outbid every other team that is interested when he hits FA.
It's completely silly to think no other team would trade for dubious as a rental. Just silly.
So, you haven't answered my question. Why would Chevy trade Dubois now, for less than he would get for Dubois as a rental at the TDL in 2 years?
Something like Dach/ Dvorak, Barron and a 1st might get Chevy talking now.
5.) 24 Jul 2022 06:36:42
me marcus it seems that nobody realizes the jets still have control here. even if he only wanted to play for montreal and no other nhl team (which he's never said publicly) he can't leave the jets unless they let him leave until july 2024. so where the jets have control is they can simply keep pld until the 2023/ 24 season where they would get a great return to any contender at that time. so if montreal wants him now it's going to cost them at least the value that the jets could get 2 years from now. for me a 2023 1st is a must as is one of suzuki guhle or dach+.
6.) 24 Jul 2022 15:00:30
At the trade deadline teams might want Dubois for a 2 year cup run like the Rangers. They could trade one of Kakko, Trocheck or even Lafrenier to get a bigger, stronger and a proven very good playoff player, sorry for the bad memories Leaf fans.
LA could trade prospects and draft choices while the Habs would have to trade less as they know he will sign with them long term, but I think that they would have to include Dach, an A prospect or their #1 draft pick at the deadline to keep this hometown boy away from the bright lights of NY or LA.
7.) 24 Jul 2022 17:25:23
Exactly Verbal, that's why I'm saying these offers of less than what Dubois gets as a rental make no sense. Chevy just doesn't have a logical reason to consider them.
Could it happen? Well anything could happen. Is it likely? There's just no motivation for Chevy to sell low.
8.) 24 Jul 2022 17:59:28
The player wants MTL, and the Jets will rightfully want a healthy return for an important player.
Acquiring Dubois this season hurts the MTL draft positioning, and thus, hurts them long-term.
MTL trading for Dubois doesn’t make sense. He’s not a “must-have” player, period. Some of the assets suggested to go back in trade ignore the fact MTL is rebuilding and in no position to sent multiple pieces back. They need as many good picks and prospects they can get.
As others have suggested, WPG is better off to trade him at the deadline to a team with Cup ambitions.
Regardless, there is zero incentive to send assets to WPG for a player the Habs new mgmt may not even have interest in. They should ignore all the noise, be a lottery team, and IF they want the player sign him when he’s a free agent. I see zero benefit to the Habs to trade for this player now or ever.
9.) 24 Jul 2022 20:38:22
Totally agree with Memarcus and islandjet. Montreal is going to want Dubois by the start of next season to play with Huberdeau.
The habs should be concerned what the jets could get either this trade deadline or next.
If Dunois gets traded to the Rangers and decides he likes it he may not end up in a habs Jersey.
Copp got a first, second and Morgan Barron Dubois gets way more with a prorated 6 million cobtract.
10.) 26 Jul 2022 05:34:08
Best case scenario for the Jets is if Dubois handles it the way Tkachuk did in Calgary and gives them a list of teams he'd be willing to sign long term with.
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16 Aug 2023 01:11:10
What's your opinion on Winnipeg Jets sign a one year contract or PTO with Nolan Patrick.
Maybe him coming home might be exactly what he needs to start over. ?
1.) 16 Aug 2023 12:56:53
There is a handful of young UFA’s I’d want to give a shot on my team. Puljujarvi, Comtois, Gregor, Patrick. I think Patrick would be a good idea for Winnipeg especially if there going to be sellers.
26 Mar 2023 16:39:35
The way the Winnipeg Jets are playing right now I'm starting to think the Jets should do a complete rebuild. Do a fire sale in the off-season. The core group just not working, it's time to hit the reset button. I believe they could get a lot of prospects and draft picks to start over. New coach same results !!!
Thinking if they did just a retool, the results would be the same.
Also think Cheveldayoff has to go. He has done nothing to really improve this team.
It's like he is scared to do anything major. There are other options.
1.) 27 Mar 2023 05:08:02
I think that might be a bit drastic. Maybe more retool than rebuild.? They have good core peices with Hellybuck, and Morrissey.
Scheifele, although not Superstar, is good number 1 center. PLD, Ehlers, and Perfetti all are above average forward to continue to build around.
I think some tweaks, move on from Wheeler and see what happens.
2.) 27 Mar 2023 13:18:46
I think a lot will depend on what Scheifele and Hellebuyck are thinking after this season. If neither are winning to extend after this season, then it may be time to move on from them, which would signal a rebuild.
3.) 27 Mar 2023 17:32:20
This team needs a new, younger coach from a winning organization that will bring a fresh approach to the game.
The Jets have the talent but are still lacking the leadership to get the most out of it.
02 Mar 2023 22:19:51
Watching all these trades and all the potential playoff teams improving their teams. While the Winnipeg Jets sit idle. Mind blowing. They have a the cap space, draft picks, prospects to make something happen. To really improve this team so they could make a good push in the playoffs. But all Chevy did was acquire Niederreiter. Good player but someone needs to wake Chevy up time is running out. Or it's time for him to go.
Almost all the players that I heard the Jets were linked to have traded already.
And if they keep playing the way they are. They may not even make the playoffs.
Thoughts????
1.) 07 Mar 2023 01:11:40
Who should’ve they been after?
2.) 09 Mar 2023 16:15:26
The Jets should have traded for Schenn and made a move to get Meier.
Once again the Jets didn't make a move to really improve their team for the playoffs.
I have always been a Chevy supporter but now I question why doesn't he make some big moves that not only strengthen the team on the ice but send a message to the players they are going to have an improved roster for the playoffs.
Draft and develop and don't play the kids philosophy doesn't improve the Jets, even if they make the playoffs.
What a mess.
3.) 10 Mar 2023 20:22:48
I agree with you Islandjet. Meier and Schenn would’ve been great additions. Definitely would have helped both get in the playoffs and in the playoffs.
If by chance they don’t make the playoffs or again loose out in the first round again. Chevy has to go. Possibly Bowness goes too. Sad to say maybe it’ll be time to hit the reset button. Hire another GM (Laurence Gilman) Hire a younger coach, new ideas. (Spencer Carbery) . Do a rebuild. This organization is a huge mess. Lead by someone who is scared to do anything.
26 Jun 2022 15:09:53
With the Winnipeg Jets being in a lot of trouble this off season. Possibly trading Wheeler, and maybe trading Dubois this off season or next. Scheifele's future up in the air.
Would it possibly be time to relieve Kevin Cheveldayoff of his duties. Hire someone like Chris MacFarland? And do a complete rebuild?
Hit the restart button.
1.) 26 Jun 2022 16:03:08
They still have Connor, Ehlers, Morrisey, Pionk, Hellebyuck under contract so if they can do a quick 2 year retool, all those guys should still be in there primes. Trade Scheifele, Wheeler, try to trade the older D, possibly trade Dubois.
2.) 26 Jun 2022 18:18:09
The greater problem is if they trade Scheifele and Dubois, they will be (pending on the trades) weak at Center position. Without a decent Center guys like Connor, Ehlers are going to be able to have the success they could/ should have.
Loosing Wheeler would be no big deal. He is good in ice but very poor locker room guy.
So it depends on what you want. Individualism or locker room group unity.
3.) 26 Jun 2022 19:41:25
Definitely get rid of Wheeler but i doubt any team can take him at 8M. That’s why I figure you can keep Dubois for a year and try to draft and or trade for a young one.
4.) 13 Jul 2022 16:36:21
There won't be much (if any) interest in Wheeler. Dubois will get plenty of interest but unless a team is pretty certain they'll be able to resign him long term Jets fans won't like the offers they'll get for him.
Scheifele falls somewhere in the middle. There'd be some interest in him but with his attitude and likely very high expectations for his next contract he won't fetch anything near what Jets fans think he will.
11 Jun 2022 00:18:01
Wishing the Jets would've traded Scheifele to the NYR instead of Copp. Scheifele maybe better offensively. But Copp is way better two way player. 200ft player. Really good on face offs. I'm sure they could've signed him long term for around 5-6m. Copp would make a great second line centre.
1C Dubois
2C Copp
3C Stastny
4C Lowry
1.) 11 Jun 2022 15:34:11
Copp isn't close to being as good of a player as Scheifele. Copp will sign somewhere for way more money then he is worth and I hope it won't be back in Winnipeg.
24 Jul 2022 05:22:28
Then come up with a counter trade!
Cause I can’t see Habs really offering that much for a guy they know they could have for nothing in 2 yrs.
JETS will want to get the best offer they can. But with
Dubois making his plans public. No other teams are going to trade anything for either. So I’d say Chevy’s hands are tied. If Dubois kept quit about his plans, just kept it in house. Then maybe Chevy would have leverage. But now he has nothing. May not get anything for Dubois. Who knows ??♂️?
17 Jul 2022 20:48:25
I don’t mind the MINs trade except for Greenway. He seems injured a lot.
Wheeler for either Dumba Or Foligno with Jost would be a great trade for Winnipeg.
There is only one thing going for Wheeler, still good offence player. But bad contract & poor locker room guy. Not much of team guy. Personally Dumba might be a stretch. But possible.
11 Jul 2022 18:27:20
There is always a chance that Larkin would want to play with his college buddy again. Don’t think it could or would happen without Kyle Connor’s help.
But anything is possible.
19 Jun 2022 19:27:45
Then they could trade Scheifele for Karlsson and Roy.
09 Jun 2022 14:43:40
I actually like these trades.
Puljujarvi might rejuvenate his game while playing with Laine again.
I think Bean would help Oilers blue line. Especially for the offensive side. Getting the puck up the ice.
NYI are looking for left side defenceman to play with Dobson. Keith can help Dobson a lot.
Bellows I think has potential if given a chance.
Oilers signing Campbell is huge upgrade over Koskinen.
10 Mar 2023 20:22:48
I agree with you Islandjet. Meier and Schenn would’ve been great additions. Definitely would have helped both get in the playoffs and in the playoffs.
If by chance they don’t make the playoffs or again loose out in the first round again. Chevy has to go. Possibly Bowness goes too. Sad to say maybe it’ll be time to hit the reset button. Hire another GM (Laurence Gilman) Hire a younger coach, new ideas. (Spencer Carbery) . Do a rebuild. This organization is a huge mess. Lead by someone who is scared to do anything.
26 Jun 2022 18:18:09
The greater problem is if they trade Scheifele and Dubois, they will be (pending on the trades) weak at Center position. Without a decent Center guys like Connor, Ehlers are going to be able to have the success they could/ should have.
Loosing Wheeler would be no big deal. He is good in ice but very poor locker room guy.
So it depends on what you want. Individualism or locker room group unity.
30 Apr 2022 17:16:12
I agree with the coaching has to change. But Quenneville can’t coach in the NHL. Trots may be available. If not then why not his assistant Lambert?
Also agree with the defence needs to be changed and addressed. Schmidt and Dillon did not work out as hoped. Both could be traded.
Jets need to find a partner for Morrissey.
But for Wheeler! You want to pay a guy $8m to play 15m a game? I just thing that money could/ should be used differently. Like improve the defence.
26 Apr 2022 01:45:05
Extremely sad news on Guy Lafleur.
Being a Habs fan was because of Guy Lafleur.
Remember playing street hockey and pretending to be Guy Lafleur. Sadly missed.
He was also my favourite player of all time.
11 Feb 2022 12:56:52
Agreed with the coaching bilingual theme of the Habs.
If Hughes would just hire the best man for the job, regardless of he is bilingual or not.
As far as players being traded. I agree with you. No player should be untouchable. No one player really played this year with any heart or soul. Including the young guys.
Granted being in a loosing funk for so long.
But I don’t see anyone being a saviour for this club. It has to be a committee. Management, Coaches, and Players.
We now have seen Management and Coach change.
Thinking the Habs might make a few deals by the trade deadline. But will be active in the off-season.
And I also have a hard time thinking they will do a complete rebuild. Because they are the Habs. Fans more likely wouldn’t allow it.