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10 Jun 2021 02:30:27
Leafs fantasy proposals. This will never happen mainly because Tavares will never waive and would make the leafs look terrible if he were to be moved.

Post expansion

Leafs: John Tavares

Minnesota: Marcus Foligno and Joel Ericksson EK

Minnastota gets desperate help at C and the leafs get a heart and soul player + a young 2way 3C.

Post Expansion

Leafs: Mitch Marner, B prospect, Travis Dermott and 1st 2021

Arizona: Phil Kessel, Connor Garland and Jacob Chychrun

Arizona brings in a young player who puts fans in seats + a prospect and pick for Garland who was rumoured to be on block so basically Marner for Chychrun and Kessel as a overpayed rental.

Pre expansion

Toronto: Morgan Rielly

Winnipeg: Andrew Copp and 1st 2022

The jets get a great offensive dman who can eat huge minutes and have 2 amazing potential partners in Demelo/Poink

Kerfoot gets claimed in expansion draft.

Bonino-1x2.5 million
Riemer-3x1.5 million
Hyman-7x3.8 mil





1.) 10 Jun 2021 13:35:11
You would need to definitely drop the 22 1st as the Jets aren't moving that for a rental, all offense, no defense LD. Copp would work, but only if he refuses to sign an extension. If Copp is extended at a reasonable price then Reilly would need an add.

2.) 10 Jun 2021 13:52:11
The Jet wouldn't trade a 1st for a rental in Rielly unless they plan to trade him at next years trade deadline for an improved 1st plus a good prospect.

3.) 10 Jun 2021 15:40:15
Tavares has an NTC, I don’t think hell move anywhere anytime.

The Chych trade is intriguing. I think Chych + Garland = Marner, so the rest for Kessel may be too light but its probabky close.

For Mo, Copp and a 1st may be a bit too high, Copp and 2nd maybe? Just cause Mo isn’t signed ling term and Copp is coming off a career year.

4.) 10 Jun 2021 16:43:03
That’s what I said in the 1st paragraph.

5.) 11 Jun 2021 11:56:25
Andrew Copp is really overrated on this site. Adding to Morgan Reilly to acquire a decent third line centre. Just Reilly’s right to negotiate with him at the end of next year would almost be worth Copp.

6.) 11 Jun 2021 12:27:47
Kessel sont waive to go back to Toronto, like never.



06 Jun 2021 16:20:49
Anaheim: John Gibson and Rickard Rakell ( 50% retained UFA in 2022 )

Carolina: Alex Nedeljkovic, Seth Jarvis and
1st 2021

Anaheim: the ducks bring in a young solid replacement for Gibson that fits their timeline well, a very good prospect picked 13th in 2020 and a 1st

Carolina: the canes add a top 5 goalie in the game signed to a nice deal who literally carry's a putrid ducks roster and a nice 2nd line winger.


1.) 06 Jun 2021 17:09:49
These are definitely two teams I could see making a deal because the difference between Carolina and a cup is a Goalie who can steal games and depth scoring.

Although there will be a hole on defense if Hamilton walks unless a young defenseman is ready to emerge or they can fill it through UFA.

The only question I have from Carolina is sending Ned in the deal. A Gibson- Ned tandem would be ideal so they can move on from Mrazek and Reimer.

Perhaps the Ducks would be interested in one of Canes Defenseman instead. They could aim for a Goalie in this year or next year draft to align with the draft class.

That’s just a few of my thoughts, value wise it’s pretty close overall.

2.) 06 Jun 2021 19:38:35
No from Anaheim, Gibson is worth a lot more.

3.) 07 Jun 2021 05:45:03
How much more is he worth? Has there been a goalie in NHL history traded for more?

4.) 07 Jun 2021 13:51:44
Nylander, on this one I don’t think you are that far off, but I think you value Nedel closer to Gibson then he is. If he has another solid season next year, then this trade becomes more plausible come deadline time.



02 Jun 2021 16:17:13
Toronto: Morgan Rielly

Pittsburgh: Pierre Oliver Joseph and 1st 2021

Burke will be trying to win with their current core and this helps. Leafs get a young NHL ready Dman and a pick.

Toronto: Mitch Marner

Columbus: Seth Jones ( extension in place ) and Oliver Bjorkstrand

The leafs get a really good replacement for Marner and a top pairing dman they have needed. Columbus gets an elite 90-100 PPG/82G player who will sell tickets while being young enough to go through rebuild while getting rid of a player who wants out.

Hyman 8 years at 3.4 mil
Bonino 1 year at 2.7 million
Spezza 1 year 700k
Ryan Murray 1 year 1 million
Jaroslav Halak 1 year 700k





1.) 02 Jun 2021 16:53:35
Might be wishful thinking to get a very solid prospect and mid 1st for Rielly. He’s a UFA and is a defenseman who can’t play défense.
The Marner trade may work if Columbus doesn’t mind you parting with Bjorgstrand.
Kinda hoping the Sens offer Spezza like 2.5 to convince him to play for us.

2.) 02 Jun 2021 17:31:17
Toronto fans have to understand the rest of the league isn't just sitting around waiting for a chance to do the Leafs huge favors by trading their own best players for Leaf castoffs and bad contracts.

Marner for Jones and Bjorkstrand is a joke. Columbus wouldn't want that contract. Maybe they'd trade Jones alone for Marner if Toronto retains $3-4 mil AND they don't get a better offer from anyone else.

Columbus' biggest need is a number 1 center.

Calgary could offer Gaudreau or Monahan + Oliver Kylington or a 2nd round pick or something along those lines.

If Bjorkstrand is on the table too, they'd add more.

3.) 02 Jun 2021 17:35:10
Websjac when he went on waivers at the beginning of year Spezza publicly said he won’t report to any team that claims him.

4.) 02 Jun 2021 18:10:31
Jones with an extension is worth more than Marner.

5.) 02 Jun 2021 19:47:14
@Nylander Ottawa isn’t any old team. If he gets offered more money to go to where it all started with a team now that is at least in playoff contention, I could see it happening.

Also @Moxnis no rebuilding team wants Gaudreau or Monahan. They have to be moved to contenders and their price is pretty low as well.
Gaudreau is about a 1st and 2 2nds.
Monahan less than that.

6.) 03 Jun 2021 01:27:24
Pittsburgh and Columbus decline.

7.) 03 Jun 2021 06:10:20

I'd be happy with a first and a pair of seconds for Gaudreau as long as they aren't very late, which they would be from a contender. Unless of course they're picks acquired from other teams.

A deal like that isn't just about the picks, it's about the cap recovered too. Particularly useful right now with the flat cap and upcoming expansion draft.

Monahan I'd rather keep anyhow. But if giving him up is what it takes to get Jones then so be it.

You may consider Columbus a rebuilding team but I'm not sure Columbus views themselves that way. If they see it as more of a retool than a rebuild then players like Gaudreau and Monahan make perfect sense.



01 Jun 2021 03:02:11
Buffalo: Jack Eichel

Toronto: Mitch Marner

Buffalo: Eichel wants out and it's hard to imagine they get a better player then Marner for him.

Toronto: They make a huge shake up that hopefully allow them to win a round in playoffs.




Bonus- Kerfoot, Lilijgren and 1st 2022 for 3c


1.) 01 Jun 2021 13:10:08
Marner is not worth that much to be honest. I actually believe that William Nylander has more value based on his contract and playoffs performances. A 11 million dollar winger who is great during the regular season but can’t work around a good physical defense comes playoffs time, has less value then you might think.

2.) 01 Jun 2021 14:10:46

Agreed. It's starting to look like Marner is a slightly larger, slightly less afraid version of little Johnny.

3.) 01 Jun 2021 17:48:15
Except Johnny is top 5 in takeaways in the NHL for forward and high up there in shot blocks.



29 May 2021 01:15:50
Oilers Washington shakeup

It sounds like Washington is fed up with Kuznetzkov and Nuge is walking as a UFA

Washington: Evgeni Kuznetzkov

Edmonton: Ethan Bear and 1st 2021

Washington signs Nuge 7 years @6.25 mil

Oilers get a very capable 2c to allow Drais to move to wing with McDavid

Washington gets rid of a dressing room problem ( I think he doesn't get along with coaches but it's known there is issues ) they replace him with a okay 2c, a solid young bottom pair dman and a 1st to replace the one lost to Detroit


1.) 29 May 2021 02:58:28
Why not find wingers to play with McDavid and Drais? IMO Drais is number 3 center in league behind McDavid and Mackinnon .

2.) 29 May 2021 05:36:45
Well Kuzy is available and wouldn’t be to expensive so imo he’s the best option McDavid and Drai are unstoppable together 5v5.



There core would start to look solid they just need to get out of Neal/ Koskinen/ Russel/ Kassian/ Turris and sign some solid depth and a real starter. If I were them I’d get in on Freddy Andersen

Trade Neal and Koskinen + for a solid overpayed player like Subban then they start to look competitive.




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07 Jun 2021 02:13:39
Is the biggest playoff chocker in sports history Mathew Tkachuk?

GP-15 G-3 A-2 PIM-33

Mathew Tkachuk on a powerhouse flames roster has never made it past the 1st round and only has 3 goals + a whack of penalties that hurt his team.


1.) 07 Jun 2021 05:23:38
A leaf fan accusing someone else of being a choker lol. that’s rich man. no offense to the sensible leaf fans on here.

2.) 07 Jun 2021 05:46:48
The leafs don’t have half of the roster as the Flames tho ( apparently ) the leafs can’t win with a soft Marner and a no show Mathews so they aren’t chocking they are actually just overachieving by making playoffs.

3.) 07 Jun 2021 19:27:27
In a few months the short term memory of some leaf fans will have Nylander planning the parade again. Yes Nylander, I will still be pessimistic. Until they at least give me a round, that won’t change. Back to Nylander’s post, Kadri has to be up there for ruining your teams chances of advancing. I don’t know playoff point totals, I’m sure they’re ok, but he can’t control himself. He took stupid penalties and suspensions to hurt the leafs, now he’s doing it again.

4.) 08 Jun 2021 01:02:24
The leafs.

5.) 08 Jun 2021 03:20:56
I agree Kadris emotions hurt the team.

6.) 09 Jun 2021 09:09:55
Leafs didn’t choke, Montreal came to play hockey that's the difference.



04 Jun 2021 22:15:22
Spezza on resigning with the leafs- " Yeah, I would. I feel like there's a lot of unfinished business. I feel very invested in the group here, and I'm hopeful that I get another opportunity to do that again next year and push this team over the top,"

Looks like he won't be going anywhere else.


1.) 05 Jun 2021 03:08:57
He had a great year, I’d love Spezza back. I like Simmonds and they need at least one guy like him so I’m ok with him coming back. I love Jumbo but he’s looking like he needs to retire.

2.) 05 Jun 2021 05:18:17
I agree. I just can’t wait until John Tavares leaves. We could have Kadri, Bozak and JVR instead of him

Kadri ( 4.25 mil ), Bozak ( 4 mil discount ) and JVR ( 6 mil ) JVR openly stated he’d take a discount to stay in Toronto. Without Tavares Mathews would look at the other players on his team not making 11 mil and couldn’t say “hey I’m better then Tavares so I deserve more “ then he probably signs something like Eichels contract 8 years 10.5 mil. Term is key.

Mikheyev-Kadri-Simmonds Etc.

3.) 05 Jun 2021 06:23:11
I like that line up but who knows? Kadri is obviously a liability in the playoffs. Tavares is a very good player, yes overpaid. It’s a a lot easier for us armchair GM’s.



03 Jun 2021 04:37:12
Fans on this sites logic-

Fan x sees leafs lose in playoffs multiple years in a row.

Fan x see leafs have great players ( Ted Lindsay finalist and Rocket Richard winner + 95 point winger )

Fan x makes offer of teams outcasts and scraps for one of the top 20 players in NHL

Fan x is told how leafs logically won't trade these franchise players for their teams out casts

Fan x says well you know what I didn't want your player anyway they suck. D

Yeah the leafs won't be trading Marner or Mathews for anything short of a massive haul Marner is a top 5 winger who is a million overpaid and Mathews is being paid accordingly. ANY team in the nhl would love these 2 players. The NHLPA rated Mathews over Mackinnon and Drais. Should Dubas move Marner? If the right offer came around then sure they need depth but not for crap. The leafs will lose with Marner/Mathews until they mature. It took Ovechkin how many years to win?


1.) 03 Jun 2021 14:06:28
Your description sounds exactly like a Leaf fan's proposal for opposing players.



01 Jun 2021 21:49:15
Fun fact the "negative value" Alex Kerfoot would be leading the Habs in points in the playoffs and fun fact Kerfoot has 6 more points in this playoff then the whole flames Roster combined.


1.) 01 Jun 2021 23:12:53
Kerfoot was solid in every game but don't get down on other teams fans under valuing him you guys have put him in every trade rumour the past 2 years.

2.) 02 Jun 2021 04:39:17
I don't understand the hate Kerfoot gets. he's a pretty good player for the 3rd line IMO.

3.) 02 Jun 2021 15:45:15
Yeah he is a very good 3rd liner that any team could use he does everything well.

4.) 02 Jun 2021 20:18:42
@nylander Kerfoot is actually very good but just a little overpaid imo just like Derek Ryan.

5.) 02 Jun 2021 22:38:07
Ive always liked Kerf personally, it was just the money being an issue this season. Next season with Freds 5, Holls 2 (to Seattle) and hopefully guys like Mikheyev and Engvall gone, 3.5 becomes a lot more manageable. Not ideal, and could definitely use someone better for those dollars, but 6 points in 7 games is pretty good for how often he was thrown around in trades.



28 May 2021 18:06:27
One observation I have on the habs is they need to invest in 2 very solid bottom pair dman. Chariot, Weber, Edmonston and Petry are decent enough but a overkill bottom pair would take a lot of pressure off a aging Weber and Chariot. Dermott is a healthy scratch for the leafs but he'd help out Montreal a lot. This off-season the habs should invest in one of Ryan Murray/Dymitry Kulikov and trade for a RHD at deadliine Romanov can fill that role but a solid 7th dman would be nice. Especially if they pick up a injury prone ( but very solid) ryan Murray

They're also missing that star forward that other teams fear. Tartar should go aswell imo not worth resigning not a bad player tho


1.) 29 May 2021 00:47:29
Well they should put Romanov in and Kalak. Romanov is a future top pairing guy IMO. like a Konstantinov type, with more finesse and offensive ability
I like Tatar, but he's going to be to expensive, and your right Nylander, there hasn't been a forward on Habs that has feared opponents since maybe Stephane Richer? For a couple seasons.
Maybe Caufield with his sniping ability may fear teams. his stature sure won't lol.

2.) 29 May 2021 01:00:48
I find it hard to believe a bottom pair of Romanov and kulak isn’t at least as good as bogosian and sandin. Montreal’s defence is solid enough and I think they have the offensive ability to score at a better clip but their style of play makes it difficult. The star forward theory might help but it sure hasn’t for a lot of teams. a good puck handling/ distributor for the power play is definitely lacking though. last two good ones they had were radulov and kovalev.

3.) 29 May 2021 01:13:02
I think Tatar must be playing hurt I don’t know if it’s bad enough for him to be playing this awful or not but either way I wouldn’t be resigning him. they have cheaper options they can use internally to replace him.

4.) 01 Jun 2021 13:27:19
One thing I have noticed about the Leafs is that they need to invest in some player who are not scared of getting in front of the net being pushed around by some big defensemen. Zack Hyman is great but they need at least 2 other forwards like him. Matthews and Marner have to go if you actually want to get win a cup in the next 66 years (2067).




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14 Jun 2021 17:57:08
That offer gets easily out bid. I’m sure Winnipeg out bids that offer in a heartbeat.




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14 Jun 2021 12:19:42
If Eichel is Damaged goods what is Elias Lindholm?




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14 Jun 2021 02:01:19
I have zero interest in this and I can guarantee the leafs wouldn’t as Faska does not fit Keefs system.




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12 Jun 2021 15:21:12
Karlsson has extreme negative value. Jones also has a lot of Negative value as he isn’t a NHL player anymore.




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12 Jun 2021 15:19:52
You’re not getting hall for that. He will resign in Boston.





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