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07 Sep 2018 17:56:26
Training Camp is right around the corner some rfa's still available.
Here's a deal towards the end of pre-season. If Reinhart hasn't signed with Buffalo

Van: sends Goldobin and Gaunce and one goalie likely Nilsson and a conditional pick

Buf: send Reinhart and Ullman

Buf upgrade in net, add a possible top six forward and add size to bottom six.

Van: Can afford to pay Reinhart 4 or 5 million a year.

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07 Sep 2018 18:13:36
If Reinhart only wants $4 mill, he would be signed in buffalo first off. Secondly, sabres are really high on Ulmark. He wouldn’t be a throw in. They left William Carrier exposed which they didn’t have to, and added a draft pick to Vegas just for McPhee’s word that he wouldn’t select Ullmark in the expansion draft. If you think they will now, a year later, add him to the best player in the deal to get an average at best goalie, a decent prospect, and a bottom 6 forward you’re wrong. Lol.

07 Sep 2018 18:19:14
Lol can Buffalo not afford 4-5 mil a year and I’m just going to say no from Buffalo.

07 Sep 2018 18:52:11
I think ya need more than that for Reinhart.

07 Sep 2018 20:21:15
There just isn’t a deal to be made between these 2 teams.

07 Sep 2018 20:34:58
Also Nilsson had a 3.44 GAA and .901 sv% in 27 games. I understand the Canucks weren’t a good team in front of him, but he is far from a proven upgrade on anyone’s goaltending. Also I’m sure buffalo is watching the leafs closely as they would have first grab at Sparks/ Pickard on waivers who both have as much potential as Nilsson without giving up Ullmark and Reinhart.

07 Sep 2018 23:10:51
Lol easy pass from Buffalo.

07 Sep 2018 13:21:35
Oiler nurse yam


Cans faulk bean

Kelfbob larson
Russel faulk
Bean Benning

Slavin peske
Nurse hamilton
Flury tvr

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07 Sep 2018 13:53:02
Lol. No.

07 Sep 2018 18:19:40
No from oil bruh.

07 Sep 2018 21:53:12
I could barely read this but I don't think either team benefits. plus I think letting nurse develop might work better for klefbob.

08 Sep 2018 01:16:04
Could be good trade for Oilers, faulk could replace nurse for now and bean could turn out to be better than nurse but that's an if and a couple years away. They do need de more than forwards. Bean was ppg player in whl and also good defensively. Rather have nurse than faulk but risking bean not developing like he should.

08 Sep 2018 04:38:42
Lol. No.

06 Sep 2018 17:51:32
Mtl: Brodin, Parise

Min: Patches, 2rd 2018

That is only if Patches agreed to extension of 6 million for 8 years. Mtl takes a bad contract and actually gives a not terrible one when u think about it because JVR got 7 million but yes it was for 5 years. Pacioretty gets more long term security at a still good salary imo for both sides. That is only if Patches starts the season old and values goes up. But if so is this good???

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06 Sep 2018 21:07:55
Brodin> Patch.

07 Sep 2018 00:47:16
You say Brodin > Patch but the whole point of it is for minny to shed some cap.

07 Sep 2018 01:31:52
Nothing> Parise and Brodin.

07 Sep 2018 02:58:12
How is Brodin better than Pacioretty?

07 Sep 2018 13:22:52
I know Brodin is worth more then Patches by a big amount since he's 4 years younger, signed for another 3 years at 4.1 million not UFA and D>wingers. That's why mtl takes on a bad contract straight up and throws in a second pick. Taking 8 million for another 6 years and only getting in average probably 35-40 points per season is very valuable imo for mynny. Anyways I think is fair for both teams and I apreaciate the comments even KeyHabs ahah.

07 Sep 2018 13:23:28
Praise dosnt bring down Brodin as much as ure making it sounds Vb. Yes he's way overpaid for another 6 years but he is still a good secondary scorer on any team in the nhl. He would still be a top 6 player in mtl wich is why I still think my l needs to add to Patches to get him and Brodin. I don't thknk they have to add a warm and a leg but a second is a god price imo.

07 Sep 2018 14:53:18
If anyone declines it Montreal Parise is a definition of an Anchor all tho I still like him as a player.

07 Sep 2018 15:48:09
Colt, you can be 100% right that Parise is still a decent player and can chip in for secendary scoring. And yet VBB is also 100% right that he’s an anchor of a contract. He’s 34, owed $7.5mill till he’s 40. That’s a brutal deal right now.

07 Sep 2018 16:36:51
He’s owed the same cap hit, till about the same age as Weber. A lot of people think Weber’s deal is an anchor to his value. However Weber is still (when healthy) a very very good top pair Dman on almost any team. Parise isn’t a top line player on any team I can think of right now. That’s the difference.

08 Sep 2018 01:20:18
I think you'd need to add more to take Parise, up there with the most regrettable contracts in the league.

08 Sep 2018 18:02:54
if everyone’s trades are so bad why don’t you post a trade him? You are so easy to criticize but you don’t back it up. Be a man make a reasonable Toronto trade.

06 Sep 2018 17:21:09
Ok I've been gone a while but I just saw some of the recent posts on here and couldn't help but laugh at how bad they are and how you people actually think they are anywhere near solid offers lol if you want a true gage on Karlsson value here's a real rumor that has been circulating from a far more reliable source.

Ott : Karlsson

Van : Hughes, 2 x 1st round picks 2019 and 2020

Or

Ott : Karlsson

Van : Hughes, boeser, 2019 1st

THAT is true Erik Karlsson value, not 3/ 4 of the garbage you people post.

A possible high pick and 2 top prospects or a top prospect and 2 possible high picks any less is laughable at best.

And duchene and stone value are pretty much what sakic got for duchene no less. get over yourselves with the outrageous offers you keep posting or leave the site.

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06 Sep 2018 18:06:16
A 2019 4th, Markus Granlund and Derrick Pouliot for EK is more likely than this trash.

06 Sep 2018 18:09:30
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! That second one is so funny.

06 Sep 2018 19:51:24
The second one is horrible.
As well the Canucks are in same position my Habs are in. they have a shot at number one overall. I wouldn't try and get Karlsson if I were Van. jus stay the course. they have some really good young peices. I see Horvat as a potential top leader in the game. when these guys are all un mid to late 20's. the Boesers. ect. they could be q really good team. however. by that time, Karlsson will be aging and taking up to much payroll IMO.

06 Sep 2018 19:59:27
Boeser straight up for Karlsson is probably fair, but risky for Vancouver because of age and injury history. The rest is garbage lol.

06 Sep 2018 20:04:03
NO LOL. Why would the Canucks ever do this?! Especially that second one, Jesus Christ.

06 Sep 2018 20:19:20
I’m sorry but I have to reply again. I just can’t belive that you had the nerve to laugh about ‘how bad some of the recent posts have been’ and then you post this?! LIKE WHAT?!

First of, we get it, Karlsson is one of the best in the game, great. Hughes is 8 years younger. For that reason alone I wouldn’t even trade him straight up for Karlsson, and you want to add two potential lottery picks as well?! Get real.

The second one is even worse. Again, a top 2 potential d-man in Hughes who is 8 years younger than Karlsson, Boeser who is a potential 40 goal guy (I don’t know where all the hate comes from with other fans but Boeser is seriously good. ) AND you want to put a potential lottery pick in there too.

Like just no.

06 Sep 2018 20:29:56
Boeser>> Karlsson.

06 Sep 2018 22:39:58
Hughes should be like 10 years younger wouldn’t he? Karlsson is a 2008 pick, and a 1990 birthday I believe. Hughes should be a 2000 or maybe a late ‘99. Rambos just being Rambo tho lol.

06 Sep 2018 22:44:36
Just the fact he thinks Duchene, coming off a very underwhelming season, with 1 year left before UFA is worth the same as he was a year ago with 2 years term left says all you need to know. Kyle Turris, Andrew Hammond, 2 1sts and a 3rd haha Sens would kiss any GMs ass to give them half of that now. And that’s not even taking into account there’s a decent chance that the 2019 1st rounder could be a 1st overall.

07 Sep 2018 00:13:12
Again, these comments are a joke. this is a real rumor unlike the garbage you people post on this site.

Karlsson is still in his mid to late 20s and still the number 1 defenseman in the world number 3 player in the world whether you like him or not. no chance he goes for less than that and yes I do realise those are possible lotto picks.

It takes talent to get talent whether you like it or not! And it don't matter what contract term a player has it never drops their value to 1/ 4 of its actual worth.

07 Sep 2018 00:19:38
And hugh will be good yeah but hell never be Erik Karlsson level.

Boeser > Karlsson comment is even more laughable than jim Carey Adam Sandler and Sean William Scott at their funniest and combined.

Newsflash folks young future stars and top draft picks are traded for current super stars all the time. those trades do actually happen while the trash you post don't unless the team is 100% desperate to move said player which Ottawa is NOT!

07 Sep 2018 00:30:18
And I'm curious as to what kind've trash you think dallas or Columbus can get for Seguin or panarin.

I bet the posts on those 2 will be better than the ones for Karlsson and duchene.

And obviously that's a joke too because if they get more respect from you guys that's pathetic considering both have gone on record already saying they want out of their respective cities with 1 year left on contract while Karlsson and duchene habs both gone on record along with stone saying Ottawa resign is their top priority. big difference guys.

And duchene did not go down in skill since trade for the record he took a little longer than expected to learn the new system and develop a chemistry which is something that does happen occassionally but he did kick it up a notch at end of year when it counted even though I wish he hadn't at that point.

07 Sep 2018 00:49:55
I’m sure that’s what Ottawa wants but that’s not what their going to get ya flamin homer.

07 Sep 2018 01:33:44
You don’t even know his age? “ mid to late 20s”.

07 Sep 2018 01:37:11
Damn, Rambo got salty real quick, he realized what a joke his post was and got embarrassed I guess. I’d like to know where these rumors came from anyways cause Benning has already come out and said that the Canucks were just kicking tired and nothing more 😂 I think you need new sources.

07 Sep 2018 02:05:46
Hahaha i can't wait for Karlsson to get traded. Going to be hilarious to see how Rambo contorts himself when the return is a third of what hey thinks it will be. The dissapointment is going to be delicious.

It's amazing how you keep setting yourself up for this. Would think you would have learned from being consistently proven wrong all the time.

But the dunce cap of ignorance is glad you're back. It's been lonely without you.

07 Sep 2018 11:17:46
I think Hoffman’s fiancé is sending Rambo trade rumors. What an angry mess this kid is. Telling people to get off this site is my favourite, bahaha!

07 Sep 2018 11:39:05
Dallas, a team in contention ain't willing to move Heisk for Rental EK.

What makes you think Vancouver will move their #2 prospect, their best player and a future top5draft pick for him then? Not everyone is Dorion buddy.

You were wrong about Hoffman, you’ll be dead wrong about EK too.

From Vancouver, I’d see EK pulling.

Juolevi + Gaudette + 1st?

Maybe?

If Melnyk forces Ryan to be attached then yiu know that that return is going to become way worse. no Gaudetta, and probably a 3rd added from Ottawa.

07 Sep 2018 13:54:02
No Rambo, The only joke here is you and what you post.

07 Sep 2018 16:15:38
@Rambo,

Seguin said he’s disappointed he doesn’t have a long term extension yet with the stars. How you took that as “I don’t want to be in Dallas” I will never know lol

Secondly, “Ottawa isn’t desperate” LOL. They don’t have a 1st rounder in 2019, their 3 best players walk to UFA the same day in July, their captain is in a legal Battle, the owner is threatening to move the team and the assistant GM had to step down to answer to sexual assault charges on a young man during a business trip! If that’s not ‘desperate’ for change then I would hate to see what you call dysfunction lol.

07 Sep 2018 18:21:59
Biasedjim that's exactly right Hoffman and his drama are "gone", former assistant FM is also "gone", all 3 stars have gone on record saying their number 1 priority is to resign with Ottawa, Anderson even recanted his trade demands saying the drama is gone and so long as it stays gone he's happy to stay as well. you're making problems where there is none and that 1st will be a playoff bubble pick at best not a lottery one.

And slapper I want wrong about Hoffman, Dorian just took a ridiculous trade as soon as he got a chance to get rid of him instead of waiting it out and getting true value like he should have done. and that package might get duchene but not Karlsson. Hughes and a 1st yo start is a must to start and then some of significant value not just a throwaway that will never crack NHL


And vbbvbb I know his age Duffus I'm making a point that has to do with his age bracket and level of play. he's just reaching his prom with many years to go and is already too 3 player and 1 defenseman in the world. if any players league wide could ever get a massive return he's one of them! Even when his prime years are over hell still be better than 75% of the players in the league. who wouldn't want a player like that on their team?

07 Sep 2018 19:20:34
I’ll just wait out this Karlsson trades as in the past ( going with a little history here) most super star players that get traded don’t get much in return. Both parties could be right but I personally don’t see Sens getting what they should be for him. As no team is willing to give up everything for him without a sure thing signing to go along with it. I think his value is to high to get back in a trade but I think they have to trade him as Sens will probably lose him after the year.

08 Sep 2018 00:14:57
I’m willing to wait and see. I’ll be surprised if he gets half of this. You responded to everyone but skipped over where Seguin said he wants out of Dallas. Where did you hear/ read that? You say he went on record, which just seems like one of your go to terms to convince people the Bs you’re spilling is real lol.

08 Sep 2018 15:55:26
Ctc55 your comment I can actually respect. I'm not saying there's not a chance that the Karlsson possible trade could be messed up bad as with that bum Dorian in charge there's always a slight chance, just look at Hoffman deal. but givin people are already calling for him to be fired for recent deals like overpayment on duchene, hoffman deal itself, burrows trade, and even taking back gaborik in phaneuf trade and still eating contract off phaneuf when he shouldn't have needed to. with him anything is possible but one would thing he should be under the gun and held accountable for what they get and thus should know enough to hold out for top dollar.

One part I didn't agree with however is the part where you said superstars don't get much in return usually. yashin, heatley, hossa, Fisher, vermette, brassard, rundblad, and elliot were all Sens trades which turned out pretty good for Ottawa. and Nashville getting subban for Weber, or kings getting Carter for Johnson, not to mention the return Colorado got for duchene, and Tampa trading drouin for sergachev. all of those off top of my head are pretty decent trades both ways not just one sided based on what each team was getting at time of trades.

08 Sep 2018 16:00:26
And biased him I actually did respond to Seguin comment it just wasn't approved I guess I don't know. but it was stated about a month and a half ago by Seguin himself that he has no intention of re upping in dallas, that he wants to go to a Canadian hockey market or back to the Bruins. tsn, NHL, sportsfeed, ESPN, etc had all reported it. if you actually followed reality instead of your own little fantasy world here you'd know that already!

08 Sep 2018 16:32:32
The only fantasy world here is the one you're in where you think you can get Hughes, Boeser, 2019 1st for EK65.

08 Sep 2018 18:02:13
Lmao we could get mcdavid for horvat boeser hughes lmao.

09 Sep 2018 04:10:31
lol. No you probably couldn't actually.
Not to a divisional rival no matter how that value is perceived.

10 Sep 2018 06:05:28
Rambo the only ones out of those that is labeled a superstar player is hossa, Heatley and yashin but even then they aren’t in the same situation.

I agree Karlsson is probably one of the best players in the NHL but that’s why his value is so off, if you look and teams who have traded those players none got great pieces coming back to the amounted to what the player they traded is worth. It’s one of those situations that if he fully says he’s not resigning he’ll be traded at 50%-75% of his actual worth. The only way he gets full price is if another superstar is coming back with other pieces but I don’t see that happening it might but I don’t see it.

11 Sep 2018 15:55:03
Also ctc55 Karlsson never said he dindnt intend to resign, infact it's quite the opposite as he stated he fully intends to come back to Ottawa he just doesn't want another full team discount he wants to be paid and covered in case of a lockout.

While a lot of these situations are different yes, a lot of them are far worst situations.

Heatley for hossa after heatley car crash.
Heatley for michalek and company after he slept with spezza wife and daddy cried for trade.
Weber for subban after in fighting with team mates and coaches on subban part.
Carter deals are my favorites as he was moved after sleeping with Richard's wife in philly then acquired by kings who already had Richard's as well for Johnson who was in middle of money issues.

And then the closest one to Karlsson situation is yashin one. only difference is yashin was being greedy while now the team just being cheap. and the return for yashin was a decent roster player, a blue chip prospect zdeno chara, and what would become the number 2 pick in that years draft in jason spezza.

Yashin was known to be 100% gone and still pulled that kind of return while Karlsson is still undecided but want to remain a sen and is a better player in a more valuable position. so who's to say he can't pull a full value return of more than what yashin got them? Its definitely not out of the question just like a trash trade isn't out of the question I mean we are talking about doron here after all, it could go either way, I'm just saying after all the trash trades he's done he's going to want to do this one right if he wants to save face in Ottawa and get back on good terms with the fan base.

05 Sep 2018 10:29:25
Semi realistic karlson trade

Edm: Bouchard,Yamamoto,Strome

Ottawa: Karlson

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06 Sep 2018 04:16:24
If Yamamoto and strome show signs of improvement this year think this would be fairly good trade for ottawa.

06 Sep 2018 05:57:40
Yamamoto has played 9 nhl games I’m sure he’s improved haha.

06 Sep 2018 12:28:42
Oh, forgot players don't improve from getting more playing time in the ahl instead of riding the bench in the nhl. That makes a lot of sense now that I think of it.

06 Sep 2018 15:18:13
Cap space? They wouldn't be able to afford him after this year.

06 Sep 2018 18:08:20
No thanks due to ages and contracts.
Sekera or Russell would have to be involved as well.

07 Sep 2018 00:50:34
Shoots are you dumb or are you joking ya lost me man.

08 Sep 2018 03:58:17
Hey mang, I'm stupid not dumb, that word offends me.

05 Sep 2018 06:17:36
Canucks hutton sven

Vegas Nicolas Hague

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05 Sep 2018 06:24:28
No no no from Vegas.

05 Sep 2018 20:23:53
No from Vancouver.

05 Sep 2018 06:15:32
Tor - D Jake Gardiner (1yr x 4.05 mill), 2019 1st, 2020 3rd, F Jeremy Bracco

Min - D Jonas Brodin (3yrsx $4.16mill)

Gardiner is the leafs 2nd LHD behind Rielly. He has this season left and is due a raise. If he would take $5.25-5.5 mill it’s possible he could fit, however he may want to cash in for more after a few good seasons and he still isn’t exactly the Defensive player we need. Brodin is much more rounded player, a bit younger and 2 more years of cost certainty which is very important going forward in Toronto.

Minnesota gets a good puck moving LHD to take Brodins spot in the lineup. They’re also Gardiners hometown team so may be able to resign him a little cheaper than other teams. They get a mid to late 1st rounder, a 3rd rounder and a small but very skilled prospect who is stuck behind a lot of talent in Toronto. The Wild have a decent team but with Suter (33) Staal (33) Parise (34) and Koivu (35), stocking some younger assets doesn’t hurt.

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05 Sep 2018 06:25:42
Interesting if wild can sign Gardiner after the year.

05 Sep 2018 07:08:28
Not saying it’s the perfect move for Minnesota because Gardiner is going to be a UFA but is Brodin worth that?

05 Sep 2018 13:43:14
@ebs, I get what you’re saying but leafs are getting a player 3 years younger with 3 years term left. I feel like the cost certainty alone is worth a premium. Also we would be asking the Wild to take a player 3 years older with only a year left on his contract at a similar cap hit. They don’t need to make this change right now and if you don’t make it worth their while, they just won’t. A late first, a 3rd and Bracco I would be willing to sacrifice to make our D stronger and be able to keep our forward group together for 2 extra years cap wise. Others may not be so willing, but I feel it’s what it could take.

05 Sep 2018 15:47:42
And @mcjesus, minny could sign him the day the trade is made. They could have a 5 x $6mill extension ready to maximize their return.

05 Sep 2018 17:15:48
as a leafs fan I would rather trade gardiner for a better dman than brodin if he is traded at all. and personally I'm not sure brodin is worth a 1st,3rd and bracco in the first place. he has a career, 0.247 ppg and a career high of 25 points with 21 points last year. is he a good dman? Sure, but i'd rather put our pieces into a better dman. I understand the value of him being 3 yrs younger and 3 years term (nice good contract i will admit) but I definitely would rather have one year of gardiner+1st+3rd+bracco than brodin.

hope that wasn't too biased haha.

05 Sep 2018 19:38:38
@Big Z. That’s fair. I wasn’t worried at all about his career points per game or his pt total last year for 2 reasons. 1 is that no one on minny (forwards included) ever put up big numbers, I think mid 60s leads their team every year. Secondly, we will get plenty of offense from our forwards (arguably the best top 9 in the league), Rielly and Dermott and hopefully zaitsev again on the backend. I’m more concerned with the other half of the game that has plagued us for years.

06 Sep 2018 04:22:43
Think brodin and Gardiner would be a very nice pair but got to give one up for the other, its trading offensive de for defensive de which I'd agree Toronto would be better off for.

05 Sep 2018 03:48:57
Now that WPG signed Wheeler and will have to sign Laine and Connor to big contracts next year they'll need to shed some cap space. Probably either Little, Perrault or both most likely after this season. The players still have value so here's some proposals:

WPG: Little
MON: Juulsen

or

WPG: Perrault
BOS: 2nd Round Pick 2019

Thoughts? Or comment some suggestions

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05 Sep 2018 04:39:24
No on the first one, yes on the 2nd.

05 Sep 2018 05:57:29
Little would be Montreal’s best centre, but by default. Not nearly good enough to change anything there and therefore they should stick to a plan and keep the younger, cheap asset with good potential.

Don’t know if Boston needs Perrault. They have their veteran forwards under contract (Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, krejci, backes) and had a good crop of youth (deBrusk, Henien, Donato etc) take steps last year that should fill up most of the top 9. But the price is good. Someone would add him for a 2nd rounder.

05 Sep 2018 15:21:15
The Jets would jump on these deals if Roslovic has chemistry centering Laine and Ehlers and one of Petan, Dano, Lemieux or Appleton are ready to replace Perreault in the bottom 6. The Jets save $ and the Habs get a #1 center, for them, as he would be a #3 with the Jets. I could see Perreault being traded to Columbus or Vegas as they both would want him more than Boston.

05 Sep 2018 16:49:35
Yes, both of these would be good deals for the Jets. But, Montreal needs to stick with going young. Little won't lift them to a playoff spot, so they need to stay the course.

07 Sep 2018 01:46:14
I think I'd rather go with daneult as a number 1 center then trade assets for bryan little.

05 Sep 2018 01:29:13
to Montreal
Duchene

to Ottawa
Kotkaniemi

Montreal, despite their poor moves and poor season last year, still has a lot of nice pieces. I think they could really rebound with a healthier lineup, and allowing Drouin to play with less pressure.

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05 Sep 2018 04:34:13
Think again lol.

05 Sep 2018 06:01:14
Duchene has a year left before he walks. Just because ottawa still owes a 1st rounder (probably top 3) doesn’t mean he’s worth a top C prospect who just went 3rd Overall.

If you have a 2005 Chevy Cavalier and still owe the bank $10,000 on it, doesn’t mean it’s worth $10,000 lol.

09 Sep 2018 19:02:27
Ottawa says no.

04 Sep 2018 21:46:37
Mtl: pacioretty


Dal: hanzal-lindell

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05 Sep 2018 04:34:31
Can it just be Lindell?

05 Sep 2018 04:50:26
Lindel is extremely underrated the cap dump is definitely called for in that situation doubt the Stars part with him. He’s pretty much locked beside Klingburg.

 


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