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13 Dec 2019 18:07:30
Vesalainen, 1st

Staal, Fast

Rangers can eat 2 million. Winnipeg has almost 6 million cap space so can easily afford this.

Vesalainen at 21 and struggling in AHL is hovering around bust territory. They must be thinking about trading him by now because he’s no good and won’t make Jets team.


1.) 13 Dec 2019 21:33:33
Both players from the rangers hold negative value.

2.) 14 Dec 2019 03:12:07
Ya this is terrible. Jets laugh.

3.) 14 Dec 2019 15:30:11
Vesalainen is a bust. Staal at under 3 mill for a top 4 defenseman is a good deal. And Fast is a very good player as well. Ves is the bust. He is worthless.

4.) 14 Dec 2019 15:59:31
Ves is 20 years old and in his 1st year playing for the Moose where he is just learning to play an NHL style of game. This trade is absolute garbage for the Jets.



12 Dec 2019 05:42:01
To Col:

To Nyr:
Morrison + 3rd

Fast gives Col secondary scoring and doesn’t cost anything of value. Nyr gets more futures and a return on free agent Fast.




08 Dec 2019 22:25:30

To NY Rangers
Khaira + Puljujarvi + 1st

Edmonton must at least think they can make playoffs at this point. They bring in secondary’s scoring without disrupting the roster in any meaningful way and get something for Puljarvi.


1.) 09 Dec 2019 00:17:43
Edm. Can but the good playoff teams will shut down edm 1 line.

2.) 09 Dec 2019 03:44:30
There’s a rumor that they probably won’t want to give up as much as what some teams will offer NJ for Hall so they might be talking to LAK about Toffoli. Article suggests possibly Toffoli/ Lewis for Gagner/ prospect. A prospect not named Bouchard, Broberg or Benson. Possibly Yamamoto or Puljujärvi. Gagner included for cap reasons obviously.
I wouldn’t mind Krieder tho, but he’s not worth the 1st++ those two is he? That’s an overpayment. He would fit as well, him or Toffoli.

3.) 09 Dec 2019 05:43:16
Kreider is a UFA. That is too much for him.
I can’t imagine him wanting to sign here in Canada.

4.) 09 Dec 2019 06:56:19
This is unreasonable from a cap stand point.
I would add:

×Gagner to NYR
×Fast too Edmonton
×$750k retained of Kreider by NYR

*Both added players are UFAs
*Gagner is the only cap dump that fits

I would take out the pick seeing that Kreiders an 2020 UFA

*Make it conditional based on playoff appearance. Although maybe a lesser pick.

5.) 09 Dec 2019 12:57:22
I based it on the Hayes trade. Very similar return.

6.) 10 Dec 2019 13:29:23
Rental rate applies 2nd rounder for non elite player

Gagner, Haas + 2nd = Kreider.



06 Dec 2019 01:01:56
To Blues:

To Rangers:
Bouwmeester + Kyrou + 1st

Kreider is worth a prospect + 1st to a contender. JayBo is a cap dump. Do Blues pull the trigger on this deal?


1.) 06 Dec 2019 08:46:32
I think they accept

2.) 06 Dec 2019 12:59:04
Several reasons why blues do not pull the trigger.

1) Jaybo is currently their best LHD they have. You say he is a cap dump when he is worth every penny he is getting and is ufa at end of year. He was part of the best shut down pairing in the Stanley cup champion blues.

2) Kyrou is the blues best forward prospect and is recovering from off season surgery that had him miss the entire training camp. he is ppg in the AHL and is the much needed skill and speed the blues need on ELC. he will be on nhl roster here real soon.

3) Blues can not afford to give away first round picks anymore. They are severally depleted on their farm system. They need to draft to replenish the cupboard.

Blues say no to this deal.

3.) 06 Dec 2019 15:13:29
Bouwmeester is done. Talk him up any way you want, he is not a top 4 nhl defenseman anymore. Kyrou is an okay prospect but isn’t nearly living up to the hype when drafted. And the 1st is going to be like 30th overall considering how good Blues playing this year. Contending teams trade their picks/ prospects in attempt to enter the playoffs with the strongest team possible. It’s just the nature of the business.

4.) 06 Dec 2019 16:14:49
Parayko is playing 1LD isn’t he? I noticed that the other night and dailyfacoff shows him LD with Petro RD.

5.) 06 Dec 2019 19:52:44
Yes yupp is correct. He has been placed with petro but it is being changed as the game goes on. When I said top lhd I was speaking of handedness and natural position.

The lines have been starting like this.

Parayko petro
Jaybo faulk
Dunn borts

There has been chatter that when gunner returns it will be changed back to

Gunner petro
Jaybo parayko
Dunn faulk

It's been an evolving line shuffle.

6.) 06 Dec 2019 19:57:19
Also on a side note blues are missing Blais Steen, sunny and tarasenko. Once they are healthy again it will be like getting a deadline acquisition on its own. Blues are good to go need to maintain their defense tgatscwhen won them the cup last year.

7.) 07 Dec 2019 00:43:43
Kyrou and a 1st seems like a lot. Maybe one of them and a lesser prospect.

Not sure Jbow is part of the deal, Blues need to be adding not subtracting really.



04 Dec 2019 06:29:16
Rangers: Kreider
Boston: Heinen + Vaakanainen + 1st

Kreider is worth a depth roster player, a b-prospect, and a 1st to a contender. Heinen is still young and suits rangers rebuild and Vaakanainen and 1st give them more futures. Kreider suits Boston’s style of play and gives them another real nice offensive weapon heading into the playoffs.





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15 Nov 2019 23:16:13
Dallas can trade HEISKENAN (got it right this time. Stupid spellcheck) for Kakko. Rangers need a star defenceman before they need a star forward.


1.) 16 Nov 2019 02:44:48
Stars say No, they need Heiskanen more than Kakko.

2.) 16 Nov 2019 02:53:52
Dallas can do it but why? Kakko is looking like he could be a superstar forward but Heiskanen is already a superstar defensemen and I think he has the potential to become one of the best finish defensemen ever.

3.) 16 Nov 2019 06:29:24
You didn't lol. Heiskanen it is.

4.) 20 Nov 2019 00:47:19
wtf? I’m just going to copy and paste his name from now on.

5.) 20 Nov 2019 00:51:12
I don’t think Heiskanen is superstar yet. He will be one day very soon, but right now he’s not. Dallas needs forwards more than defense. They just drafted Harley who could be just as good as Heiskanen.




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14 Dec 2019 22:13:42
Ves is the same age as Kyrou and Thomas. You say they suck with bottom six potential but Ves is a ton of potential waiting to explode on nhl scene. No sense of irony there eh?




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14 Dec 2019 15:30:11
Vesalainen is a bust. Staal at under 3 mill for a top 4 defenseman is a good deal. And Fast is a very good player as well. Ves is the bust. He is worthless.




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14 Dec 2019 15:25:57
Kyrou has “bee oh” all right.




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13 Dec 2019 19:53:59
So grateful @Vertius for clearing all that up. Putting the word “not” in all caps so must be right. Matthews night not be top 10 in the league, but he is most definitely ranked top 10 for his position. Leafs would bunch rather retain Matthews over Dubois any day. Jones is great, no doubt about it, but saying he’s better than Matthews or worth more than Matthews has got to be the dumbest thing you e said yet.




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13 Dec 2019 18:32:57
I don’t see how this helps Chicago either. They want to compete now and Fleury + Cousins doesn’t help them get any better for the immediate future. Fleury does look good though, so I can’t see Mtl trade him either.





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