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29 Jun 2025 16:30:29
So this Marner thing is now a soap opera, possible tampering charges etc. Right now Vegas has 5,600.000 in cap space and will have to clear cap to even sign Marner, so if that's the case I have a trade proposal to fix it all.
Toronto Trades
Marner
McMann
Danford (OHL)
Vegas Trades
Hertl
Barbashev
This will give Vegas 16 million in cap space to sign Marner, Vegas get's Marner, McMann plus prospect Danford, Leafs help themselves picking up 2 top 6 players in Hertl and Barbashev, any tampering is over and everyone is happy, yes I said I believe Marner still signs in Toronto but if he doesn't this is my last post until September.
Cheers.
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29 Jun 2025 23:33:09
If I was Vegas, I'd just wait and sign him for free.
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30 Jun 2025 12:44:58
The leafs have threatened to put tampering charges against Vegas if he signs with them in offseason. It sounds like if a sign and trade isn’t made Vegas if he does end up signing him as a FA they will lose their 1st round pick. Not sure if it disappears like what happened with New Jersey with the Kovy situation or if it goes to leafs.
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30 Jun 2025 13:18:04
From what I've read Toronto could end up with the draft picks or cash. It would also void the contract. I imagine Trev is asking for Roy and Barbashev in a sign and trade plus a pick of some sort. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Based on what Friedman said the league is waiting to make an example out of someone for tampering so we'll see what happens.
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30 Jun 2025 16:38:30
Most teams are negotiating with upcoming free agents at this time of the year but only the desperate Leafs will threaten tampering charges. What a classy organization.
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30 Jun 2025 17:23:47
If Vegas has talked to marner, marner would be fined 1 mil. Team could be 5mil in fines. I hope the nhl says you forfeit all of next years picks + next 1st. They do it every year.
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30 Jun 2025 18:08:53
It's a hard thing to prove. A lot of the blame would fall on Mitch's agent. I've seen the same thing @Shootsmcgee, potentially even the picks going to the offended team. There's definitely some sour grapes action going on here from the Leafs side, but I feel like this would happen with any team who is losing a top player. I think the grey area is that technically Vegas still needs permission to be negotiating a contract with Marner's agent and I don't think that's happened. I could be wrong on some of that as I didn't dive too deep into it.
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30 Jun 2025 22:12:12
Marner is officially a Golden Knight. Take the next two months off Pinball.
Clearly Vegas wants the spring off too. Welcome to the Marner era.
Treliving is a very good NHL GM, and Dubas is not. Congrats to leaf fans on the great negotiations on Tavares and Knies. Dubas would have spent much more.
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29 Jun 2025 16:01:04
Tor: knies
LA: Byfield
Yes I know knies is a great player. But so is Byfield, leafs need a long term center behind Matthews.
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30 Jun 2025 12:45:15
I’d take Byfield here.
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28 Jun 2025 00:09:35
Montréal has to call Florida and acquire Lundell!! Adding him would catapult habs into contention for years to come! That’s exactly what Hugo said they’d do!
MTL offers : matheson 50% retained, Logan Mailloux, 2nd round and 3rd
To panthers for : Lundell
Or : matheson 50% retained or Mailloux and top 5 protected 2026 1st round
For lundell
Habs would then trade price to sharks
This leaves habs with plenty of money to resign Hutson and demidov to long term extensions
2026 lineup
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Demidov lundell Laine
Newhook dach Gallagher
Anderson evans Florian or ufa corey Perry
Dcore of
Hutson reinbacher
Guhle Dobson
Xehjaj carrier
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28 Jun 2025 03:53:42
I don’t see FLA giving up a piece of their present two-time Cup winning team for Matheson + futures.
When you’re at the top you’re not thinking about building, you’re thinking about staying where you’re at.
FLA will go hard at repeating and they have an excellent shot at achieving something special IMHO.
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27 Jun 2025 13:19:19
- Kuznetsov has announced his intention to return to the NHL, and has been in contact with several teams apparently.
- Given the dearth of available 2C, and the number of teams looking for one, I say MTL sign him to a cheap 1-year deal for 1 season at 2M.
- He centered Demidov last year in the KHL at a point a game pace, and given that he obviously speaks Russian, he could help break the kid into NHL life.
- Kuznetsov even shoots left...which is on the Habs' shopping list for a 2C.
- If he can stay off the Columbian nose candy, Kuznetsov might be a great placeholder move for the Habs to get them through this season.
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27 Jun 2025 20:10:52
I imagine that's where he lands. As a Leafs fan, I'm not happy seeing the Habs making some solid moves. Dobson addition is huge. Kuz could pay dividends as well if he stays healthy, mentally and physically. If anything he helps Demidov transition to North America which is a huge plus as well.
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27 Jun 2025 20:18:20
MG: I’d still get him to pee in a cup before signing any contract with him 😁.
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27 Jun 2025 23:22:36
I don't think we have good enough coke for kuzzy.
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27 Jun 2025 13:10:16
I have said all along I still believe Marner resigns with The Leafs, but if for arguments sakes he isn't and Vegas is the team that plans on signing him this is my proposal.
Toronto Trades
Marner
McMann
Vegas Trades
Hertl
Before anyone says but Vegas can sign him after July 1 for nothing, this is about an 8 year contract over a 7 year contract, The AAV would be less for Vegas, plus Vegas will have to clear cap space to fit Marner in that's why Hertl goes to Toronto.
I truly believe when it's all said and done Marner resigns, but if he doesn't as promised by Chickenfoot I will be off this site until September.
Thoughts ?
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27 Jun 2025 15:33:37
- I suppose it's possible that VGK might value an extra year enough to trade him before the deadline, but I can't see that being a "must" for them.
- Centers are tough to find this off-season, so if Hertl is moved, they could get a good return for him. He has good size, and is coming off a 32 goal/ 61 point season.
- if VGK really does value the 8th year for Marner, it takes mid-level pick.
- if the leafs want Hertl, it's going to take a package to get it, likely in picks or prospects, to help VGK clear cap space, which is the only reason they'd trade Hertl.
- the leafs are very low on both picks and prospects, and are more likely to replace departing players in Free Agency with the cap money that will be freed up from the departure of Marner. and possibly Tavares? (I still think Tavares re-signs, but is forced into a hometown discount well below what he could get if he's willing to put his new home on the market. )
- PINBALL: Marner was photographed househunting in Vegas this week, so it looks like you'll be using a burner profile till September 1st eh? (Just kidding. )
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27 Jun 2025 20:14:26
If Vegas is high on Marner and they value that additional year. I imagine a sign and trade is done and the Leafs will get a nice package in return. End of an era in TO and I'm looking forward to what Trev has planned for this team as we lose one of our regular season high end performers. The Tavares signing was a welcomed surprise to see.
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27 Jun 2025 10:55:34
Dobson (8x10m)
Vs
Reinbacher
17th overall 2025
Beck or kapanen (might take Hage)
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Hertl
Vs
Dach or Newhook
16th overall 2025
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27 Jun 2025 13:11:58
- The first trade proposal looks realistic. (Painful, but realistic. )
- For the second trade, VGK is looking to clear salary, so I'm guessing they'd prefer picks or prospects in a potential Hertl trade if it were to materialize. (VGK would only clear 5.23M if Newhook were included, or 4.78M on a Dach deal.
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27 Jun 2025 19:41:34
Turns out that the Price for Dobson was not painful!
Hopefully, and I agree with you, habs can get hertl for 2nd Pick 2025 PIT+ 2nd habs + beck!
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26 Jun 2025 19:09:59
UTH - Maccelli
EDM - Nurse, 2026 2nd, 2027 1st.
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27 Jun 2025 09:10:14
Is Nurse that bad?
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28 Jun 2025 00:36:47
Hard for me to judge exactly but I’m guessing Nurse is a 5M guy. Oil would be better off without him using 9M in cap.
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26 Jun 2025 00:30:02
Tampa:Gabriel Szturc,3rd
Calgary:Coleman
Chicago:3rd
Calgary:Backland
Dallas:Robertson,bourque
Calgary:Andersson -50%rtn,Zary,Mews,1rd via Florida,2nd
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25 Jun 2025 18:53:39
VGK: Hertl (pending waiving his limited NTC)
MTL: 2025 1st (17th overall)
2025 2nd (MTL's pick, not the PIT pick)
Joshua Roy (2026 RFA)
Jayden Struble (RFA/LD)
- Vegas is looking to clear space to sign Marner.
- MTL needs a left shot 2C
- MTL can replace Roy & Struble with picks if VGK prefers the cap space.
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26 Jun 2025 03:48:47
Its not to bad. I know I'll get flack for this, but I still haven't given up on Dach as that guy.
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26 Jun 2025 10:18:12
Dach is too young to give up on, and though I’d give him some time at C, he’s probably a 3C or a second line winger.
If it were me, he’d get this last year if his current contract to prove whether he is capable of staying healthy, and whether he is a C or a winger. He’d have a short leash if it were up to me.
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26 Jun 2025 19:11:19
Pretty good although I could see Vegas taking less.
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26 Jun 2025 23:03:42
I would give a shot to dach in the right wing, dont think center position suit him.
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25 Jun 2025 18:31:25
Three-way trade:
VAN: Demko (UFA '26) to EDM (1M ret.)
2027 3rd to MTL
MTL: Laine (UFA '26) to VAN (2.2M ret.)
EDM: Pickard (UFA '26) to MTL
2026 2nd
2026 3rd
- VAN promotes Shilovs and dumps an injury-plagued asset, while adding much-needed scoring for the same cost of Demko's outgoing cap hit.
- EDM takes a one-year chance on improving their goaltending, while saving 1M on dumping Pickard and 1M on the Demko contract. (No one's taking Skinner)
- MTL uses cap space to facilitate these moves, adding 3 picks for taking on 3.7M in cap space.
EDM has little in tradable assets, and the cap penalties for that stupid Jack Campbell contract are worst in the next 2 seasons. There are precious few ways to add when cap space and tradable assets are scarce. It will be interesting to see what they do.
Laine, Demko and Pickard being UFAs after this season create an interesting one-year experiment.
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25 Jun 2025 22:53:54
I think this is pretty solid 👍🏻.
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24 Jun 2025 15:39:15
Toronto to get the ball rolling.
TOR: Jason Robertson
FLA: Brad Marchand
VGK - Reilly Smith
DET: Patrick Kane
BUF: Bowen Byram
Robertson - Matthews - Knives
Kane - Marchand - Nylander
Domi - Laughton - Smith
Tanev - McMann - Pacioretty
Rielly - Byram
Benoit - Tanev
McCabe - Myers
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24 Jun 2025 18:51:49
I think you need to get out of the sub.
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25 Jun 2025 17:51:57
?
What are the trade, signing, or cap details? Or are you just amusing yourself by aimlessly writing random names on the page?
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