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20 Dec 2024 17:05:07
Pittsburgh Trades
Acciari

Toronto Trades
Holmberg
Reaves


Thoughts ?

Believable4 Unbelievable18

20 Dec 2024 17:19:12
This doesn't help Pittsburgh and it barely helps the Leafs.

Hows that for thoughts? (I know, my opinion doesn't count, only yours does. )

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20 Dec 2024 20:40:06
DrwDave
Holmberg for Pittsburgh is the key and Dubas Drafted him.
Acciari gives the Leafs a more reliable 4th line RWinger/ Centre is why, Cap is basically a wash.
Yes I know any trade that involves The Leafs makes no sense to you, that's become obvious.

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20 Dec 2024 22:47:04
Smooth brain logic Pinball

Holmberg was drafted by Dubas = Pittsburgh needs him.

Did Dubas draft Reeves too or are you just hoping Pittsburgh will take him and his salary as charity for the Maple Leafs?

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21 Dec 2024 14:09:54
DrwDave
Reaves + Holmberg = 2,150.000
Acciari = 2,000.000

Difference = 150.000

Holmberg has much more upside than Acciari, Toronto needs that type of 4th liner more than Pittsburgh imo is why it makes sense for both teams.
Even a player like Acciari in your view is worth more than my package and in reality it isn't.
As for Reaves he might not be what he once was but is still great for other players to be around, The Leaf players love him on the team.

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21 Dec 2024 16:27:13
Typical Pinball trade. Toronto gets a player they need and give up players they would give away for nothing if they could in return.

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21 Dec 2024 17:08:16
So in other words, this trade doesn't help Pittsburgh and it barely helps the Maple Leafs?

Glad we agree on that Pinball šŸ‘.

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20 Dec 2024 00:24:10
Montreal trades with ny islanders
Mtl sends xhejaj and Calgary 1st round
To islanders for
Noah Dobson
With more trades from habs coming
D core would look like this
Dobson Hutson
Carrier guhle
Mailloux struble or engstrom
With reinbacher taking carriers spot in 2yrs

Believable2 Unbelievable16

20 Dec 2024 02:33:52
Dobson isn't going anywhere. He's the new generation of dmen. Montreal would have to add another top peice.

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20 Dec 2024 05:04:42
NYI hang up. Dobson is as close to untouchable as it gets.

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20 Dec 2024 18:17:15
Dobson would be nice, but it would take alot more than that to get him. Xhekai is becoming more than just a tough guy, so I'm also happy to keep him. I see him getting an A on his jersey in a couple seasons. He's a glue guy.

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18 Dec 2024 23:41:52
Philadelphia Trades
Hathaway

Toronto Trades
Kampf

Trade Breakdown.
Kampf 29 years old
Hathaway 33 years old

Regular Seasons
Kampf 495 Games Played
Hathaway 570 Games Played

Kampf 43 Goals
Hathaway 68 Goals

Kampf 90 Assists
Hathaway 82 Assists

Kampf 133 Points
Hathaway 150 Points

Kampf .26 Points Per Game
Hathaway .26 Points Per Game

Playoffs
Kampf 34 Games
Hathaway 31 Games

Kampf 7 Points
Hathaway 6 Points


Salary Cap
Kampf 2.4 Million this year
Hathaway 2,375 Million this year

Kampf 2.4 Million for 2 more years
Hathaway 2.4 Million for 2 more years (resigned this season)


Complete wash for both players in every category except Centers have more value than Wingers in The NHL.

This imo is about as fair as any trade can be when you consider everything I posted about each player.




Thoughts ?

Believable7 Unbelievable17

19 Dec 2024 03:47:08
You just can't take being wrong, eh.

There's no reason for Philadelphia to trade a useful player for a useless one.

Philly isn't obligated to bail Toronto out of a bad contract for an AHL level player.

If Kampf is as good as you're saying he is pinball, keep him.

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19 Dec 2024 03:55:27
2024-25 season stats

Hathaway- 3 goals 8 assists 11 points in 31 games played

Kampf- 0 goals 3 assists 3 points in 18 games played

You said it yourself in your Patrick Kane trade proposal, "live in his value today not from the past. "

Kampf has no trade value on his own, his contact being identical to Hathaways doesn't make him worth the same as Hathaway.

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19 Dec 2024 13:58:42
memarcusjoe
Wow I just broke everything down how they are both completely comparable yet Kampf in your eyes is useless, sorry but that shows obvious bias against Toronto.
Even facts are ignored by you when it comes to The Leafs.

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19 Dec 2024 15:01:56
DrwDave
Kampf has been injured this season his numbers would be better if he wasn't, so that narrative of what you do for me today for value is when it's a Leaf Player only?
That's what you're basically saying with that response.

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19 Dec 2024 15:31:42
At the end of the day @Pinball there's no benefit for Philly to make the trade. They are still in the hunt for that last spot and Hathaway is having the better year compared to Kampf.

Yes Kampf has been injured, but he hasn't been even overly effective as a bottom 6 player for a few years now. It is what it is, but only way we unload him is for a late draft pick with little to no retention or tagging on an earlier draft pick and some retention to maybe get a mid pick back.

We need to address the bottom 6 for sure, but I don't see Philly dealing a guy who fits their style of play for a guy who does not.

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19 Dec 2024 16:56:41
MG69
Why doesn't Kampf fit The Flyers style?
4th Line Center who is good at faceoffs, responsibly defensively, and kills penalties.
Why wouldn't Philadelphia want that in your mind?

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19 Dec 2024 17:06:37
Yes, Pinball whenever anyone criticizes your always one-sided trades, they are biased against Toronto.

It couldn't possibly be your bias of the worst Toronto player being better than any other player on any other team could it?

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19 Dec 2024 17:17:47
Pinball, so now your argument to devalue Kane of "live in his value today, not in the past" only applies to players of other teams and not when you're trying to peddle Leaf garbage? That's what you're saying with your response.

Live in Kampf's value today (negative, it will cost to dump him) not his value from years past (nothing) .

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19 Dec 2024 17:24:07
memarcusjoe
No I am not devaluing Kampf you are, when it comes to Kane it's what his worth is today, Kampf and Hathaway right now imo are still equal today.

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19 Dec 2024 18:06:58
Pinball, we agree you are not devaluing Kampf, you are greatly overvaluing him.

What your are doing though is devaluing players on other teams saying "live in their value today, not in the past".

While then turning around and saying "live in their value today, not in the past" doesn't apply to Kampf or Leaf players in general. There we must value them at the highest value they were ever valued at, no matter how long in the past it was or how small the sample size for that value is.

Living in Kampf's value today, means you pay to dump him like any other team does with any other cap dump.

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19 Dec 2024 18:08:29
You won't return a player who by your own admission, is better than Kampf in every way, just older.

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19 Dec 2024 18:19:49
memarcusjoe
No Kampf and Hathaway are even in every category including Cap.
Kampf is better because of age and being a Centre as Centres have more value than Wingers, Philly if any of these teams should add not The Leafs.

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19 Dec 2024 18:34:44
When Kampf is a crappy center, it doesn't up his value. I'm sure Hathaway could be a crappy center as well.

Points wise this year, Hathaway is far better and by your own words "live in his value today, but the past".

Game, set and match.

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19 Dec 2024 19:26:13
memarcusjoe
By the end of the season I guarantee that Kampf and Hathaway will be the same or close to the same points per game.
I will repost that at season end.

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19 Dec 2024 22:16:11
I said game, set and match pinball. It's over. :)

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20 Dec 2024 00:47:33
memarcusjoe
You said?
Your word is God now as well?
Your opinion is just that, your opinion.

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20 Dec 2024 05:11:08
Game, set and match.

Pinballā€¦youā€™re so far off, and for some reason you get condescending. No one with your knowledge of hockey should ever be condescending.

PS. Would ANYONE who upvoted Pinball on this post confirm their upvote by posting a reply to this? Itā€™s pretty obvious that Pinball upvotes the heck out of his own posts, so if anyone actually did upvote him, please reply. šŸ‘.

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20 Dec 2024 13:12:34
Easy Pinball, I was joking about game, set and match.

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20 Dec 2024 16:19:49
The beautiful thing about opinions pinball, is that they mean absolutely nothing in reality.

You don't have to convince us Kampf is worth as much as Hathaway, we already know he isn't. Kampf is in 9 out of every 10 trade proposals you come up with.

If Kampf and Hathaway are even in every category, why does Hathaway have 17 more career NHL points, and a career +/ - differential of +31? Shouldn't they be identical?

The only way you're getting rid of Kampf without adding a draft pick as compensation is by waiving him.

He has a $1.35 million signing bonus for the next 2 years, which is laughable since that's the salary he should be paid not the bonus he deserves. But the Leafs reward even their 4th liners with signing bonuses so that's why you have the ghost of David Kampf making $2.4 million.

He also has a 10 team no trade list that you rarely seem to respect. You treat Kampf like he's a castaway, he's always your scapegoat to get a better player and yet you argue that Kampf is the better player in every trade you come up with. So why is he being shopped then?

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20 Dec 2024 16:30:36
You are without a doubt the most stubborn Leafs fan I've ever heard of. Your OCD compulsion to post a different trade every single day is ridiculous.

Your evaluation of Leafs players and prospects is delusional. You argue that the players you're trading are worth more than the player you're trading for, yet you continue to try and make these trades involving them.

Robertson/ Kampf/ Jarnkrok/ Hildeby/ Dewar are your go to scapegoats. The only reason you can come up with to trade them is that you think there's a shinier player available on another team that is down on its luck and is likely willing to trade their players to Toronto for next to nothing.

You have absolutely no loyalty to any roster player that makes less than $3 million. You have absolutely no respect for any other team that isn't Toronto, you demonstrate that in every trade by having a narrow minded view on what every other NHL teams needs/ wants are.

In your backwards mind, every other team is either rebuilding or thinking about rebuilding so they're obviously only in the league to exist for trade pieces for the Leafs.

The only thing about you that makes you even remotely a Leafs fan is that you believe your opinion means something and everyone else's opinion means nothing. There are dozens of other Leafs fans on this site that have greater respect for teams and players and I know they don't claim you as one of their own.

It's so ridiculously disrespectful to compulsively trade the same rotation of 4th liners and injured players and argue that they're worth more combined than anything another team has to offer.

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20 Dec 2024 16:57:31
DrwDave
Your opinion and leave it there, it's ok if Kampf stays Berube loves the way he plays anyways.
Yet he is useless in your eyes.

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20 Dec 2024 17:48:41
How much of a spineless jellyfish do you have to be to argue this much about why Kampf is worth more than Hathaway, and then just walk it back with "it's okay if Kampf stays"?

You've been trying to come up with ways to trade Kampf for months going back to last season. To call yourself a Maple Leafs fan is so insulting and disrespectful to every Leafs fan on this site.

You have no respect for any roster players that makes less than Jake McCabe. You try and trade them every single day, while simultaneously telling us they're worth MORE than what you're asking for. You think that makes you credible?

Yesterday you tried the same Hathaway trade but for Dewar. After everyone schooled you on the lack of value going to Philadelphia, you just said "k forget about Dewar, what about Kampf for Hathaway? "

Zero respect for these players. Zero loyalty to your favorite team. Zero respect for other people here who disagree with you.

I've seen Marcus and Islandjet show blind loyalty to Winnipeg for years on this site, but the difference between them and you is that unlike you, Marcus respects the players on Winnipeg so much that he will argue why a trade doesn't make sense from the Jets perspective.

You just throw all the 4th liners on Toronto away on a daily basis and argue why a trade makes sense from the other teams perspective. As if you'd know anything about the Flyers, Red Wings, or any other team you want to take a player from.

You're an embarrassing excuse for a hockey fan. You won't agree, but that's my opinion.

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16 Dec 2024 21:31:29
Philadelphia Trades
Hathaway

Toronto Trades
DeWar

4th line trade for both teams.



Thoughts ?

Believable11 Unbelievable20

16 Dec 2024 21:56:39
Philly would probably rather have a pick.

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16 Dec 2024 23:24:13
memarcusjoe
Curious why would Philly want a draft pick instead of DeWar?
DeWar isn't a top player same as Hathaway but does the things that a 4th liner is expected to do and is 8 years younger, a Draft Pick isn't a certain for The NHL and DeWar is.

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17 Dec 2024 13:21:04
Pinball, why do Toronto a favour and downgrade a plug for free? Philadelphia isn't going anywhere, so adding a different plug doesn't do anything for them, so they might as well take the gamble that they can get lucky and fluke a good player with the pick. It's not like DeWar has potential or is anything special, or something that every team doesn't have 3 or 4 of.

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17 Dec 2024 13:52:01
memarcusjoe
So you believe Philadelphia would rather gamble on getting lucky with a late draft pick then get an NHL Player?
That actually makes no sense from The Flyers side of it, or your comment.

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17 Dec 2024 15:51:19
Yeah it does pinball. DeWar does nothing for them plain and simple. He's nothing that they don't already have and won't be around when the start to challenge for a playoff spot.

They might as well just keep the better player now and replace him in house when the time comes as opposed to helping Toronto out and not getting anything useful in return.

Like all your trades, it makes perfect sense for Toronto, but is nonsense for the opposing team.

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17 Dec 2024 16:14:50
memarcusjoe
Again your comment makes zero sense, DeWar is a player most teams want with his compete level and at 25 years old compared to a 33 year old Hathaway that's a positive move for a team like The Flyers, just like Hathaway makes sense for Toronto.
Your logic doesn't make sense.

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17 Dec 2024 18:10:48
DeWar is a player all teams already have. Inconsequential, not a difference maker and easily replaceable by most league minimum players. Not the kind of player you need to trade for, just grab one off waivers or promote an AHL'er.

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17 Dec 2024 20:19:12
Memarcusjoe is 100% right Pinball.

They both might be 4th liners, but even with all the leafs injuries, he's only seen half the games Hathaway has.

On an expiring deal, Hathaway will be a nice add for a playoff-bound team. Dewar isn't going to do it, and Memarcus explained why. Like always you just can't deal with it.

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17 Dec 2024 21:14:09
memarcusjoe and Chickenfoot
Ok forget DeWar, David Kampf and Hathaway are pretty much the same with contract games played and points per game etc. as Hathaway has been extended 2 more years at 2.4 million the exact same as Kampf.
Are you going to again say that's not a fair trade when a Centre is more valuable than a winger?
So my revised trade is Kampf for Hathaway.

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17 Dec 2024 23:58:26
The difference is Hathaway provides value for his salary. Kampf doesn't, which is obviously why you want to dump him. If Kampf was more valuable, you wouldn't be offering him.

You kind of painted yourself into a corner with that one.

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18 Dec 2024 02:28:45
Pinballā€¦you constantly embarrass yourself with ridiculous posts that you whine about and/ or double down on.

Kampf has 2 more years at 2.4M, and Hathaway is on an expiring deal. Which player do you think is less valuable? Could it beā€¦. the one youā€™re always trying to trade?

Kampf is unable to secure more playing time despite the leafs injury situation. He has zero goals. Does he sound like a player that teams want to be on the hook for 2 more years?

Kampf, youā€™ve been told repeatedly, is a cap dump who is suffering through the worst stretch of his career. Do you not understand this? You include him in almost every trade proposal you post. If you want to dump him so badly why would another team want your contract.

Think it through Pinball. If you have any hockey sense youā€™ll realize Memarcus is correct and you are not.

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18 Dec 2024 02:39:10
memarcusjoe
Kampf and Hathaway are basically a wash in every category except Kampf is a Centre more valuable than a winger and 4 years younger.
Their values are a wash in the big picture, I know you have a hard time accepting that but that's a fact.

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18 Dec 2024 05:09:13
If Dewar is a player every NHL team wants, why trade him?

And when everyone disagrees with your assessment of Dewar, you just swap him out with LTIR 3 assist Kampf and call it the same value?

Why not just offer a Conditional 4th round pick for Hathaway instead of arguing for why Dewar is better (yet you want to trade him) and then switching him with Kampf instead (LTIR with 3 assists)?

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18 Dec 2024 13:10:14
DrwDave
Kampf is coming off LTIR and ready to play.

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18 Dec 2024 17:26:31
Chickenfoot
Again Hathaway was extended 2 more seasons after this year at 2.4 million a year, so contracts are a wash.

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14 Dec 2024 16:49:28
Mtl- savard 50% retain- 3rd round pick 2025

Van- desharnais - 1st pick 2025

mtl- mattheson half retain- evans


LA- danault- 1st pick 2025


Mtl- dach-1st pick la or van

Cgy- andersson

Slaf-suzuki-caufield
Newhook-danault-laine
Anderson-dvorak-gallagher
Heineman-beck-armia

Guhle-andersson
Xhekaj-hutson
Strubble-desharnais

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14 Dec 2024 22:59:01
Montreal is the only team that considers any of those.

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16 Dec 2024 14:21:20
- MTL only has one salary retention spot left.

- Zero chance that Danault waives to return to MTL. (He was eager to leave, and I can't see him wanting to return. He's the wrong age for a rebuilding team regardless. )

- Anderson is the wrong age for a rebuilding team too, and CGY would have to be getting a steal of a deal to consider trading any 1st round picks in the coming years.

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20 Dec 2024 13:49:39
Yeah wishful thinkingā€¦ Bergevin and Timmins have to be the worst at drafting, passed on tkatchuk, Quinn Hugues, Bouchard and Dobson for KK!! Horrible!

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13 Dec 2024 16:40:34
Detroit Trades
PKane*

Toronto Trades
Kampf
NRobertson
2nd Round Pick 2025 (FLAs Pick)


*Detroit retains 50% of PKane's expiring contract.





Thoughts ?

Believable6 Unbelievable22

13 Dec 2024 18:39:03
Detroit can do better easily.

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13 Dec 2024 19:28:42
memarcusjoe
Detroit can do easily better?
Are you sure about that, this isn't PKane from even a few years ago.
live in his value today not from the past.

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13 Dec 2024 21:04:08
Pinball, you're offering a 2nd to Detroit for taking Kampf and are offering a throw away AHL'er like Robertson and expect retention as well.

They actually come out worse because they get nothing for Kane, throw away $2.0 mil and are stuck with Kampf as a cap dump for 2 more years.

So, yes at $2.0 mil they can do better than paying someone to make Kane go away. They'd get something positive out of it.

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14 Dec 2024 01:23:24
Robertson has 2 goals in 23 NHL games. Kampf has 3 NHL assists in 18 NHL games. Kane has more points than Robertson and Kampf combined.

The irony of saying "live in his trade value today not from the past" when offering 2 players worth less than Kane in return for Kane at a 50% discount is hilarious.

You're only throwing Kampf in because without him the Leafs would be over the cap. So if he's a salary dump then thanks for the 2nd round pick (55th-64th overall) as compensation.

So now you need to add value to this trade for taking the better player in the deal, and for the salary
retention.

But Toronto has nothing on the trade block of any value to a team like the Red Wings. That's why Detroit can easily do better.

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14 Dec 2024 01:23:55
Everything on the Leafs trade block in exchange for a forward.

Rinse and repeat again tomorrow Pinball.

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14 Dec 2024 13:58:12
Detroit has zero interest in Kampf or Robertson, and would want additional sweeteners to take these 2 stiffs off of Torontos hands.

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14 Dec 2024 14:13:24
memarcusjoe and DrwDave
Did Chicago come out ahead a few years ago trading PKane and using Arizona as a 3rd team for a huge retention?
Chicago got a 2nd Rounder, a 4th Rounder a career AHL Defenceman plus another Defenceman that has only played for Sweden, in exchange NYRangers got PKane, another Defenceman that will never play in The NHL and a 5th Rounder, and PKane was a point a game player back then.
How is my proposal really that much different as I am sending NHL Players back to Detroit with NRobertson having potential and Kampf's only crime is he is probably a million more than he should be getting?

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14 Dec 2024 15:16:44
Detroit says no.

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14 Dec 2024 16:18:09
The difference pinball is that then Kane would ONLY go to New York, Chicago was rewarding him for years of being a good soldier and Chicago didn't take back a cap dump.

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15 Dec 2024 04:52:10
Another difference is that Kampf has no trade value, the 2nd round pick you're offering would have to be attached to Kampf even if you were just trying to shop Kampf without Robertson.

The Red Wings biggest need is goal scoring from more than just their first line. Robertson isn't going to help solve that with 3 goals in 23 games. Whatever trade value he had as an RFA last summer is gone.

So if Patrick Kane at 50% off is what you think the Leafs need, it's going to take more assets than just a late 2nd round pick attached to an LTIR player and a fringe NHLer projected to score 6 goals by end of season.

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16 Dec 2024 14:27:32
There's as much chance that Stevie Y does this deal as there were 5 actual site visitors not named "Pinball" that upvoted this ridiculously one-sided trade.

Treliving will definitely get rid of Robertson & Kampf someday, but it won't be any of these "leave your garbage on someone's lawn" trades that get offered up regularly by Pinball.

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09 Dec 2024 15:40:53
Cgy trades Dan Vladar to Philly for Morgan Frost. Both have the same cap value and Frost fits into the age slot that Conroy is looking for,

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10 Dec 2024 00:21:03
Not sure if the trade value would benefit both but Calgary is looking for RH and Frost is LH.

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10 Dec 2024 00:55:21
Fair deal indeed, a great fit for both teamsšŸ‘.

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12 Dec 2024 18:51:20
UFA Goalie value are much much lower than 25yr old rfa.

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09 Dec 2024 01:52:29
Chicago is down a couple goalies so wonder if Buffalo would trade Devon levi for a Ryan Greene....or something in that area. Buffalo looks strong on young de but maybe could use a forward. Soderbloom only has 4 games till he's not waiver excemt. Levi could play some games till mrzek comes back. Commesso not fairing well in ahl so send him to echl. Soderblom and Levi in ahl splitting time. Buffalo gets a pretty good prospect.

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08 Dec 2024 05:45:25
Calgary trades

Nazem Kadri 50% retained
Dan Vladar

To

Colorado for

Casey Mittelstadt
Alex Georgiev

What else to make this deal happen?

Believable0 Unbelievable14

08 Dec 2024 22:30:39
Calgary would have to add I imagine, I put a similar trade for mrzek and people on here didn't like it. He's playing well but mrzek is the more competent starter but keeps getting injured. Mittelstdt is playing to well to be an add for a bad contract. I'm guessing Colorado is looking to trade a goal for another goalie but pay with draft picks.

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08 Dec 2024 23:52:57
Colorado would have to add to that. Calgary giving the better goalie and the better center with retention.

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09 Dec 2024 02:05:58
Nashan kadri is a gv away machine, 47% face off. Less points, shooting 9.1% Older and makes more. 50% retained for how many years? That's an easy 2 1sts for retention. First year vladar has ever shown capability of being a starter on a very small sample size. He could easily go back to back up mode like the goalie they already have. Calgary adds.

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09 Dec 2024 22:34:06
Kadri 7M 47.3% face off 23 giveaways
Middlestadt 5.75M 40.1% face off 38 giveaways.

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10 Dec 2024 00:58:39
NASHAN: I respect your hockey I. Q. You definitely bring informed and realistic insights every timešŸ¤œ.

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11 Dec 2024 20:21:56
Thx. I try to see things reasonably from both sides.

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06 Dec 2024 14:25:40
Buffalo Trades
Tuch
7th Round Pick 2025 (WSHs Pick)

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Benning (AHL)
Hildeby (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2026

Treliving is looking for that one trade before or at the deadline for this years playoffs, many believe it's for a Centre but adding Tuch to RWing will also help huge and what the price tag will be for a Centre imo Tuch would be a good target and help just as much, Kampf and Jarnkrok if one or both are playing before the end of the season will have to be traded away for cap reasons also.

Sabres need to do something and Tuch is probably their best trade chip, NRobertson, Hildeby and The 1st Rounder are why they would pull something like this imo.
Benning is a depth Defenceman that can still play in The NHL gives them more stability on the backend for this season.



Thoughts ?

Believable6 Unbelievable18

06 Dec 2024 18:07:11
3 ahl players and a first for Tuchā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦hangs up phone.

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07 Dec 2024 20:09:03
UPL and Levi already in the net, they have no use for goaltending depth.

Robertson has 2 NHL goals this year so far.

That 1st round pick is likely to be somewhere in the 26th-32nd overall range, which is worth using as a trade chip but there has to be more added to it than just AHL players.

Don't know anything about Benning, but should I? I'll give you credit, at least it's not Holmberg or Jarnkrok or Kampf for once.

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07 Dec 2024 20:09:59
Everything on the Leafs trade block in exchange for a forward.

Rinse and repeat again tomorrow.

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08 Dec 2024 13:27:36
- puts leafs over the cap.

-Tuch is a first line RW, so would Tuch theoretically be taking Marner or Nylanderā€™s spot?

- Robertson canā€™t make the leaf lineup, so why are other teams going to want him, or the the handful of others that you recycle daily in these one-sided trade proposals?

- Tuch is the kind of player that every team would love in their playoff roster. If he was available heā€™d draw better offers than this yard sale.

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09 Dec 2024 16:54:27
Robertson isn't moving the needle on a trade at all anymore. The game for me that solidified that was against Vegas when he had the puck and essentially had Petro beat to get out of our zone. Petro turned and with one hand took the puck off od Robertson from a stand still position.

Robertson has a wicked shot, but lacks the foot speed to break away and use it on teams. He works hard, but he's still getting knocked off the puck 90% of the time.

It is what it is at this point, but he's not going to be a piece most teams want and he definitely won't be a piece included for a player like Tuch. Would love to add him, but the conversation for him likely starts with Cowan and a 1st and goes from there.

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10 Dec 2024 16:08:52
@MG69 IF Tuch was on the block which the home town boy is not, Cowan and a 1st would be a hard offer to beat.

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10 Dec 2024 21:21:09
@vbbbvvbb definitely would be, but team like Buffalo may put more value on more draft capital which we don't have. Team could offer a lesser prospect and tag on more draft capital to make a competitive deal as well.

Imagine a line of:

Knies-Matthews-Tuch

Be a tough line to match up against, but it's a pipe dream at this point šŸ˜‚.

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06 Dec 2024 03:05:43
Montreal trade with Columbus
Mtl sends reinbacher
To Columbus for Kent Johnson
This would be a trade I would do at the draft, depending on where Montreal picks,
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Demidov Johnson laine
Newhook beck dach
Anderson evans Gallagher
In this case if Mathew Schafer is available thatā€™s my pick

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06 Dec 2024 20:08:40
I still wanna see what the Habs have in Reinbacher. I like Johnson, but I'm just so curious as to Reinbacher. People alot smarter in hockey than me, must have a reason why he was chosen before such players as Leonard and Michkov.

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08 Dec 2024 13:30:43
Reinbacher is dealing with a serious injury. Not sure why CLB would be so generous.

Like Sosa, I want to see the kid develop. I like his first pass out of the zone, and I see some things that may well make him worthy of his draft position. Till then thereā€™s lots of work ahead for the kid.

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