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11 Jun 2020 16:16:41
Most underated player on every team

ANA-Max Comtois

ARI-Darcy Kuemper

BOS-Matt Grzelcyk

BUF-Sam Reinhart

CAL-Noah Hanafin

CAR-Teuvo Teravainen

CHI-Dominik Kubalik

COL-Ryan Graves

CLB-Cam Atkinson

DAL-Roope Hintz

DET-uuuhhhhhh Tyler Bertuzzi maybe?

EDM-Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

FLA-Keith Yandle

LA-Calvin Petersen or Matt Roy

MIN-Jared Spurgeon or Kevin Fiala

MTL-Jeff Petry

NSH-Mattias Ekholm

NJ-Damon Severson

NYI-Jordan Eberle

NYR-Ryan Strome

OTT-Chris Teirney

PHI-Matt Niskanen

PIT-Marcus Petterson

SJ-Kevin Labanc

STL-David Perron

TBL-Mikhail Sergachev

TOR-Zach Hyman

VAN-J.T. Miller

VGK-Alex Tuch

WSH-Jakub Vrana

WNP-Neal Pionk

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11 Jun 2020 17:12:00
Some very good picks from most teams.

11 Jun 2020 18:13:47
I think for Habs you could also put Armia there. sometimes Petry can even be overrated. depends on the game. he has been really steady though during his time as a Hab, and is a solid top 4 guy.
Good list though.
I like the Hyman pick for Leafs. I like those kinda guys, gritty players. on a team full of stars, he doesn't always stand out. I felt that way about Kadri as well when he was a Leaf ( he stood out for the wrong reasons sometimes)

11 Jun 2020 21:09:07
Kuemper isn't underrated. He would have won the Vezina if he didn't get hurt. He carries that team and with him in net Arizona is a cup contender. One of the best goalies in the league. He is definitely not underrated.

11 Jun 2020 21:18:53
What definition of underrated are you using?

You got guys in here that are practically All-Stars. How is Kuemper, Reinhart, Teravainen, Kubalik, Fiala, Vrana at minimum considered underrated? Compared to who? Their teammates or the league?

Kuemper - starting goalie and Vezina candidate
Reinhart - second leading scorer on the team
Teravainen - star top line forward
Kubalik - outstanding rookie that blew past all expectations
Fiala - leads his team in scoring
Vrana - 30 goal scorer and 70 point player. He's a star

All these guys are recognized as star players. To me an underrated guy would be someone like Hyman who you have listed here. A star player on any other team but his own, he gets denounced as benefiting from who he plays with, not the other way around.

11 Jun 2020 22:34:18
Yeah I agree with the one for Detroit. Although I would suggest Hronek as Underrated simply because everyone thinks he’s worse but really it’s the team as a whole.

11 Jun 2020 23:52:55
St. Louis fan actually every player you listed I wasn’t sure who to put for that team lol. I was honestly thinking of going:
Garland for Arizona
Spurgeon for Minnesota

The other guys, I honestly just couldn’t really see any other players that would be underated. Like for example Montour in Buffalo was the next closest imo and he’s like not really understated at all.
Same with Vrana, Fiala, Kubalik and Teravainen. I had other possibilities like maybe Stein from Chicago but imo there aren’t really a lot of “underatted” who would you put for those teams?

11 Jun 2020 23:55:41
Strome* from Chicago.

12 Jun 2020 07:25:18
Cirelli for TB, imo.

12 Jun 2020 19:50:17
I don't know a lot of those teams that well, but some names that come to mind are:

Minnesota I would say Greenway. He's big and hits a lot. Power forward that. Was +2 on a team full of players with -.

For Chicago I would say Keith, believe it or not. At one point he was back in the top 50 defensemen of the league again. His numbers took a good bounce back from. last year. He had a respectable year, but everyone still thinks he is crap.

Buffalo is hard because the whole team is garbage. Vesey had a real bad year and people have turned against him. I think he still has game though.

For Carolina, Gardiner is the most underrated player. His Corsi was outstanding this year and he managed a respectable 28 points playing from the third line and with virtually no power play time.

13 Jun 2020 07:14:42
Very good list

11 Jun 2020 12:23:13
2015 Best Draft Ever?

Almost every player from the first has made it to the NHL or at least has played NHL in some capacity. And it just keeps giving. The second round gave up almost as many NHL players as a normal first round. Each round has produced at least one NHL player. Including the best player in the world right now.

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11 Jun 2020 13:40:16
2003 was also pretty good.

11 Jun 2020 21:07:43
So was 1979. But I think we still haven't even seen what 2015 will turn out to be. Some of those guys are just coming into their own now. So in another five years could be even more impressive.

09 Jun 2020 14:17:25
Due to the virus cap ain't going up... NHL should make buyout penalties from buyouts made previous years and retained salary not count against the cap for the next 2yrs. What y'all think?

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09 Jun 2020 15:24:44
So, reward teams with poor GM's and bad cap management and penalize teams with good GM's and responsible cap management?

10 Jun 2020 02:09:22
If a team doesn’t have a contract worthy of buying out, trade for one.

10 Jun 2020 02:10:34
Read that wrong. I agree with memarcus, it isn’t fair doing it that way.

11 Jun 2020 19:21:27
Buyouts and LTIR's only help rich teams that can afford to have a payroll of $95 mil. This is an unfair loophole that the NHL has to close.

08 Jun 2020 20:32:36
Dustin Wolf has been named WHL Goalie of the Year, USA Goalie of the Year, & CHL Goalie of the Year. Wow 3 major accomplishments this season from him.

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08 Jun 2020 21:00:13
CHL and WHL goalie of the year go hand in hand. Reminds me of Ian Scott last year look where he is now.

10 Jun 2020 02:49:14
Didn't Scott get hurt? That's not really a fait comparison now is it?

30 May 2020 01:15:34
Rusty is not bad, he's big right handed and his stats last year -2 is honorable if you play for a terrible team.

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30 May 2020 07:33:24
#plusminuswarrior.

01 Jun 2020 16:05:07
Risto a good player just sucks at transition.

10 Jun 2020 02:50:20
He has issues with skating too.

28 May 2020 16:49:34
Even if juniors are not eligible what team if any could get a real boost from maybe some of their all players like they way Colorado did with maker last year.

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04 Jun 2020 05:13:14
St Louis gets perunovich.

10 Jun 2020 02:52:00
Perunovich ain't going to make the team . Huge difference between Perunovich and Makar. LMFAO. If you think Perunovich is going to hop on the team and be the stud Makar was you got another thing coming.

28 May 2020 03:46:20
I have a question if someone would share the info. Can nhl clubs insert all players in their lineups For the playoffs and what about junior players that have sign their entry level deals, I don’t know the answer to this, and if they can what nhl club would this help the most?

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28 May 2020 09:03:52
Hmm that's interesting. I should know this. lol. I don't think the new signed Jrs can? . if so can Romanov play for Habs? I'm pretty sure that's a no. but maybe one of these more educated guys like Drais or Habby can fill us in.

28 May 2020 09:07:02
So I just read that Romanov can't play. I'm sure that Dman who the Leafs jus signed who won the kinda KHL Norris can't either.

28 May 2020 13:46:11
I know 2 years ago when Gusev signed with Vegas during playoffs he was eligible to play so if he is not eligible to play it is due to the virus not NHL rules.

28 May 2020 14:08:56
Vegas already had Gusevs rights though did he not? So was technically already Vegas property. I believe that makes a difference.

28 May 2020 16:22:54
Oilers can have Broberg play, although he’s playing pro in Sweden and not in juniors. But there’s a limit to the amount of players a team can hold I’m pretty sure.

28 May 2020 19:12:35
If they’re on an ELC they could play, if they haven’t signed yet they can’t play in playoffs pree sure.

29 May 2020 04:17:44
If they were not with you or signed before the trade deadline they are ineligible. I think.

29 May 2020 06:11:59
There seems to be talk that KHL signings might be treated a little different then others though.

29 May 2020 13:30:16
No any player is eligible to sign and play at any time of there rights are held by a team already. FA signings are locked at deadline I believe.

30 May 2020 01:03:00
@vbb What?

04 Jun 2020 05:20:19
He's right. Exactly what I said. As long as the team has their rights it doesn't matter when they sign because they are already team property. FA are locked to the team they are playing for after the deadline is what he means. Not sure why he threw that in at the end unannounced off topic but ok. He is right. The khl guys are signed for next season, so they can't play this season. I read something about them putting date to be determined on the contract, but that won't fly. I have a hard time believing Barabanov or Lehtonen will be playing for the Maple Leafs for example. Or Sorokin in New York.

04 Jun 2020 19:40:43
I wasn’t disagreeing with him I just couldn’t understand what he was trying to say. You explained it better but it still sounds like what I said earlier to me.

24 May 2020 07:04:50
I know jamie drysdale is the popular choice as this years draft top dman but it wouldn't surprise me at all if jake Sanderson is picked higher. I think I would take Sanderson if I had the choice it's close though

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24 May 2020 07:58:57
I'll take the Canadian kid.

24 May 2020 17:28:39
the American is the better skater and bigger though and his dad was Canadian.

24 May 2020 18:50:15
Oh is it Geoff Sandersons kid? . man I hate that, all these Canadians going down there, staying there, then there kids are Americans.
Ya, I guess if he's the better player. I don't know enough about either. your usually a pretty good judge.
I guess its jus time for me to admit the Americans are eventually going to take over the number one spot.

24 May 2020 20:10:41
I’ll take drysdale all day. Drysdale looked awesome in the world juniors. 2010 Olympics people thought doughty was too young but he ended up being arguably the best Canadian defencemen. Watching drysdale st the juniors reminded me of 2010. Drysdale is projected top 5, Sanderson is 15-20 from most mock drafts I’ve seen. I think you gone it’s the guy you know is better now, not to
mention drysdale is 16 early 17. He still has lots of time to gain muscle and size. Only thing Sanderson has on him is height.

25 May 2020 07:52:38
Do a bit more research mertle and come back again.

25 May 2020 16:29:47
I would take Drysdale but Sanderson will probably be just as good if not better.

26 May 2020 16:56:57
My bad habby, he just turned 18. everything else I said stands. I guess ill find out in 5 years or so if I have to eat my words or not but I like drsydale more, maybe it’s cause I’ve seen more of him. I just really like his game. Or did you want me to come back when I agree with you habby?

26 May 2020 18:50:25
I honestly couldn’t care less if you agree with me or not mertle. But that doesn’t mean I have to agree with you when I know your wrong. First off Sanderson has at least 15lbs on drysdale and is 6 foot 2, I don’t care what some websites may say that haven’t been updated since last year so don’t bring them up as sources to continue arguing please. Also there are a lot of mock draft and draft rankings that have Sanderson in the top 10 now and he has been climbing the rankings all season, q.

26 May 2020 22:45:37
Wow, got a little excited there eh. We’ll have to agree to disagree. Guess we’ll find out in a few years but you already know I’m wrong so it really doesn’t matter. We’ll leave it at that. If you don’t want people to disagree with you or have a opposite opinion maybe you shouldn’t post anything. just saying
Have a good day!

27 May 2020 18:07:55
Again disagree by all means but back it up with facts.

27 May 2020 18:33:56
Habby I think you’re the only one who doesn’t think Drysdale is the best dman in draft. I see a future Drew Doughty in him besides Dahlin I don’t think I’ve seen a dman impress me more then Drysdale at the world juniors. As per Sanderson judging by reports he projects to be more of 2/ 3 guy but I have never seen him play or recall.

27 May 2020 22:11:51
I don’t have facts to prove that drysdale is better, nor do you have facts that Sanderson is better. We just have opinion. He’s 3” taller and 15 lbs heavier, but that doesn’t mean he’s better. By that logic Tyler Myers should have been drafted higher than doughty. Size isn’t everything and from what I’ve seen drysdale is LOADED with high end skill.

27 May 2020 22:53:53
Time will tell you guys. after doing my own lil research, I still will take Drysdale ( due mainly to my Canadian bias. ) However, this Yankee kid sounds like he could, in the long run have more upside. who knows. I honestly don't think either are going to be Norris winners, or even number 1 Guys, but I think a number 2 which is really good. number 1 by default, kinda thing.

28 May 2020 03:06:12
So mertle since I told you to do some more research you now know at least that Sanderson is 15lbs heavier then drysdale and is actually younger which you didn’t think was the case before. I don’t care if you would rather drysdale. before the draft gets here I could change my mind. I just think it’s closer then a lot of people think and I know a lot of scouts were really impressed by Sanderson 2nd half this year and I watched him enough myself to say imo he’s better defensively then drysdale and when given more offensive opportunities in the 2nd half of the year he showed he is probably just as effective as drysdale in that part of the game as well. if I was picking 5th or lower in this years draft I’d take him right now even if drysdale was still there.

28 May 2020 03:06:41
Also if Anton Lundell doesn’t go in the top 20 I wouldn’t be suprised.

28 May 2020 08:53:02
Habby. other than the obvious. I who do you hope Habs get. is there a certain guy out there? I feel Habs will be in that 8 to 12 position.?
And if you were GM. would you consider being a lil rediculous to get Lafrennier?

28 May 2020 08:56:13
And I'm thinking Caufield, this years 1st. and 2nd. Another prospect and next years 2nd.

28 May 2020 23:03:26
Actually habby drysdale is 5’11 165 pounds and Sanderson is 6’2” and 170 pounds. huge difference eh. We’re aren’t talking chara to Ryan Ellis difference here, so that means size and height is damn near a wash, so I’d you really think Sanderson is more skilled then yeah he should be picked before drysdale. I just don’t think he is. That is all.

28 May 2020 23:07:38
If the habs could pull off trading for the #1, would be crazy. Think it’s take more than that package tho. I would think it’d start with kotkaneimi, ‘20 first and more from there. Caufield and kotkaneimi are both real good prospects but neither are potential franchise altering like
Lafrenière is projected to be.

28 May 2020 23:11:59
I do agree with you tho habby on the Lundell prediction. Also sorry for being argumentative, I just miss hockey.

29 May 2020 04:20:47
8 to 12 there could still be a couple high profile guys left. Rossi Perfetti Holtz Sanderson that being said all four of them could be gone by 8th too. One way or the other though there will still be a few real good prospects left.

29 May 2020 04:28:09
Not saying this mertle to keep it going but if Jake Sanderson is not at least 185lbs right now I would be shocked. Plenty of sites have him listed around there and I think he’s closer to 190 now.

29 May 2020 04:30:58
With regards to lefrenniere I think it’s just a pipe dream. Bergevin right now would have to offer Caufield Romanov this years 1st and next years 1st just to keep Yzerman from hanging up immediately then he would say ok you got my attention now keep adding.

04 Jun 2020 05:21:49
Throw in Price would get it done maybe? Detroit can afford him.

04 Jun 2020 05:26:11
As for Sanderson vs Drysdale it is way too early. None of us are watching the prospects enough to have any clue. Admit it. Your guess is as good as mine based in the same stats, scouting reports, few games I might have watched on YouTube. But really I have no clue who is going to be better. They will both be drafted in a spot that would indicate that at least one, if not both, will be very good to elite level defensemen. But unless one of them is a complete bust from the get go, then that's a debate that will be years away before the results are known. People are still comparing Ovechkin and Crosby.

08 Jun 2020 17:37:04
I actually feel like I do watch enough of prospects that I can give my personal opinion on some and maybe most of them, if I didn’t watch them and only went by stats and scouting reports I probably wouldn’t give my opinion.

10 Jun 2020 03:07:39
So you're telling me you have a subscription to watch USHL? I find that a little hard to believe. I'm very sorry, I'm sure you watch a lot of prospects games. But I am struggling to believe you've seen enough junior league games over the last few seasons to be able to judge these guys accurately compared to their peers. Especially the guys from outside Canada.

 


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