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08 Jan 2020 23:03:55
Jets Hellebuyck for Blues Bennington.
Who would add?

09 Jan 2020 03:07:52
Hmm. think it's a straight 1 for 1.



Say World Cup was this year. Who is Canada's goalie?

09 Jan 2020 03:09:31
The master “baiter” back at it.

09 Jan 2020 10:20:26
Hmmm I would probably consider in this order maybe
MAF, Helly, Bennington/ Price. Maybe a little bias because I like MAF a lot, and he’s got the good experience. I think I take Helly or Benny tho.

09 Jan 2020 12:20:11
How bout Steen for mcdavid.

Good ol Stanley cup vet for a young up and commer in mcdavid.

Who adds.

09 Jan 2020 13:58:57
I think Oilers add another young kid, some German named Draisaitl. Seems like he could be a good 4th line checking center. he's big, and not to bad of a skater. will never be a star, however I think he does even have 3rd line capabilities. As for that for McDavid kid. I'm not so sure, his skating isn't all that bad. . hmm guess we will have to wsor and see. but if Edmonton could get a savvy vet like Steen for these 2 NHL maybes, that could put Edmonton over the top.

09 Jan 2020 14:02:16
Hellebuyk is ‘Mercian. I would go MAF/ Price and Binnington. I’m a price fan and I think he could be the starter and do well with good defence in front of him.

09 Jan 2020 14:17:26
Steen would be a great mentor for the Oilers.
Counter offer: Stern + 3rd for Mcdavid with $2.5M retain. Can blues fit that or should Oilers retain another $4.7923M?
Wait, they already have super star #1 center Robert Thomas, why would you want to give up Steen for center Mcdavid? Doesn’t fit at all. you're so confusing Homer. 😆.

09 Jan 2020 17:31:28
Blues would need to add Kyrou with Steen for cap reasons.

09 Jan 2020 19:10:08
Steen, Paryanko, Thomas and 1st for McDavid.

10 Jan 2020 03:32:45
That’s WAY too much VB. Thomas alone has more value than Mcdavid. He will be a legit #1 center one day 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.

10 Jan 2020 04:46:30
I'm not sure how hellybuck got binnington (a comparable trade, though a troll) turns into Steen for mcdavid. I mean at least go nurse for parayko for closer value.


Also I'd take helly over binnington, by a little bit.

10 Jan 2020 12:19:01
Would drais for a broken down zamboni be better to your liking?

10 Jan 2020 12:20:40
Bennington has a cup so got to stay with him. Maybe after Hellybuck single handedly carries his team to a cup it would be worth considering.

10 Jan 2020 18:02:02
I believe any rink would welcome spare zamboni parts Colt, there could be a deal to be made there. But I’m not sure you have the cap space to take on Draisaitls insanely bad contract. Do you have another counter offer? Think this next one through a little more.

10 Jan 2020 18:04:21
Single handedly? Like they didn’t have a really good team in front of him? I want to say Hellebuyck but Binnington has that attitude of a winner. I don’t know close one.

10 Jan 2020 18:52:54
Here is my final offer.

Bag o pucks
Broken down zamboni
Darren pang
1 week rental of drunken hull
For

Drais and nurse full retention.

10 Jan 2020 21:13:01
Binnington won that come himself? I don’t think fanatic even watches hockey.

11 Jan 2020 02:42:55
No deal, Peng is the deal breaker 😂😂.

11 Jan 2020 08:25:08
Without Binnington Blues wouldn’t have even been in the playoffs, so yes, Binnington won that cup himself. He dragged the team into the playoffs and then had a stellar playoff run. The team in front was good, but not great. The goalie made the team great.

01 Jan 2020 16:44:14
Stl: Tarasenko.
Wpg: Laine.

Who adds?

01 Jan 2020 18:16:45
Blues decline. Laine is a 1 truck pony.

01 Jan 2020 19:06:26
Redwing you must not watch any Jets games to still call Laine a one trick pony. Stick to commenting on the Wings or Leafs and leave the comments to people who actually watch games.

01 Jan 2020 19:44:54
Wth Laine>>>>>Senko talent wise and age wise.

01 Jan 2020 22:48:51
Yup, it would be a sizeable add coming from St. Louis. Although in reality there would be zero chance the Jets would even consider it.

01 Jan 2020 22:55:32
Jets add.

01 Jan 2020 22:57:07
Laine is on pace for thirty goals and sixty assists for ninety points. So what exactly is this one trick of his?

02 Jan 2020 02:13:10
It's called sitting by himself and waiting for a one timer.

02 Jan 2020 02:51:17
Redwing. Your wrong on this.

02 Jan 2020 04:45:24
Ok well laine looked like dog piss in the playoffs and tarasenko was amazing. Rather just keep my guy.

02 Jan 2020 15:17:08
Ah this didn’t disappoint. Let’s do it again sometime Homers! Good work.

02 Jan 2020 16:59:22
Yupp a dupp. You realize that nobody cares that you are a trolling or that you patted yourself on the back for it. I am glad you feel you have accomplished trolling on a make belief trade board. cheers all around. lol

#triggered.

02 Jan 2020 21:40:43
Blues add Kyrou and a conditional 2020 2nd round pick (becomes a 1st round pick when redwing1 admits he's a bandwagon Blues fan that left the Red Wings just when they got bad) .

02 Jan 2020 21:46:39
There was zero troll here. This was baiting you Homer’s into arguing with each other. Huge difference. Lol. Again, thank you sir.

03 Jan 2020 00:49:06
I didn’t realize teams made trades based on last year’s playoff performance. Tarasenko has three goals and seven points in ten games this year. That’s a pace of twenty four goals and fifty seven points. Compared to Laine on pace for thirty goals and ninety points. Are you sure you are a blues fan?

03 Jan 2020 02:34:56
He was never a wings fan lol just used the name to cover his bias @liltuzzibert.

03 Jan 2020 12:22:26
Hockey fanatic. Do everyone a favor, Quit using the, "its a pace for " bs look at Tarasenko's yearly stats. He has been solid as a rock over the past 5-6 years even with injuries when it comes to scoring. Last year Laine only had 50 points and was a pos in the playoffs. You can keep your fortnite playing one trick pony player and we will keep tank.

03 Jan 2020 19:44:48
Why shouldn’t I point out their stats? Does it hurt to see that your favourite player isn’t doing so well this year? Truth hurts doesn’t it? I’ve seen you point out players stats lots of times. It’s ok when it’s not a blues player but when it’s one of your guys you get all butt hurt and cry.

03 Jan 2020 19:46:55
Don’t get me wrong. Twenty four goals and fifty seven points is good. But that’s still a lot less than what Laine is doing this year. Past success doesn’t count in sports. It’s a show me now business. What have you done for me lately. Using your logic then Subban would be a top defenceman and worth Weber still.

30 Dec 2019 04:54:46
blues trade peitrangelo
jets trade vesalainen, 1st rounder and stanley
based on the return hall got this is a good trade for both teams and can't think of a better fit for the jets then peitrangelo and morrissey on that top pairing
thoughts?

30 Dec 2019 13:31:44
Why on earth would the first place in the West and 1 or from 1st overall blues trade their captain for junk and a 1st. Yeah I get it young ago players but in a contenders eyes junk. Beyond stupid for blues.

30 Dec 2019 13:42:13
The Jets are in no position to give up that much for a rental that will be looking for a huge raise and can't make a move like this with the Buff situation still up in the air. They'd be better of just waiting for AP to go UFA and trying to sign him then if Buff decides to retire.

30 Dec 2019 13:55:52
You explained how Winnipeg benefits from this. So how do the Blues benefit? Reigning Stanley cup champions want to trade their captain and best defender for a couple of b-prospects and a middle of the pack first? Why exactly would they make that deal?

30 Dec 2019 15:24:11
The way I'm looking at it, it just doesn't make a ton of sense for either team, but especially when it looks like they might to meet in the playoffs. Higher chance than most teams that would trade for petro anyways.

30 Dec 2019 15:26:34
They wouldn't. You put petro on that WPG and those players from WPG on he blues. Who is the better team today and for the playoffs. WPG is. Once again Beyond stupid. I would say this OP went full retarrd. Never go full retarrd.

30 Dec 2019 16:22:16
This is awesome. Post more Jets-Blues trades. Entertaining listening to these guys go back and fourth. 🍿.

30 Dec 2019 17:13:14
yupp would love to hear your hot take.

30 Dec 2019 18:21:19
Thats a great trade for the Jets if Petro had some term or was a sign and trade but as a rental it's just too much for the Jets to give up at this time. If Petro isn't in St. Louis' long term plans they would trade him at the deadline for a forward piece they would need.

30 Dec 2019 19:36:45
Once again that is stupid. If he doesn't sign then he doesn't sign. But when you have a legit shot at the cup again you take it. You don't downgrade a position to help another team get stronger lol. What a crock of sheet.

30 Dec 2019 20:54:24
Blues add Jordan Kyrou and a conditional 2020 2nd round pick (becomes a 1st if the Blues win the Stanley cup) .

31 Dec 2019 03:41:40
Veselainen, Stanley, and a first for an extended petro, is an underwhelming offer. Petro extended would be a bidding war. Those aren't prospects that other teams are dreaming to trade for islandjet.
It's basically a first and 2 players that that might make minimal minutes on the team.

31 Dec 2019 13:55:05
yep no thanks turdtuzzi

kyrou alone is a better player than any of those pieces. Blues will just play for Stanley cup again whether petro signs or doesn't.

31 Dec 2019 16:18:22
Cryou is not a better player than all those guys.

31 Dec 2019 17:12:36
Yes he is he is producing at the nhl level. While Stanley vesilinean are not.

Kyrou 21yo
Ahl
Gp 16 g9 a6 p15

Nhl
Gp 9 g2 a2 p4 playing with Schwartz and schenn first line

Vesa- 20yo
Ahl
Gp34 g6 a9 p15

Stanley 21yo

Ahl
Gp20 1g 5a 6pt

So please explain how those two are better lol. Cause they aint.

31 Dec 2019 18:37:14
ves is an A level prospect that is in his first season in north america and was ranked a top 15 prospect last year... that’s not garbage😂😂😂

31 Dec 2019 21:47:51
He is 1 year younger and hasn't performed up to kyrou's level yet. He'll yak was a 1st overall where is he now. Some people own out some don't so far kyrou has and currently is performing better at the khl level in a top line roll then ves is in the ahl

Do the math.

01 Jan 2020 01:45:44
Cryou has two goals, two assists, four points, in 9 nhl games this year. That’s a pace of 18 goals and 36 points in an eighty two game schedule. He’s a third line player at best on most teams. He is a good player but is never going to be more than a middle six player. Ever.

01 Jan 2020 18:18:20
Lol so if he is third line best then why is he on first line on Stanley cup contender and if that s the case what does it make ves who hasn't even performed that well lol.

29 Dec 2019 18:29:34
Edmonton
Koskanen & 2nd & Jones

St Louis
Allen

29 Dec 2019 18:56:34
Wouldn't Koskinen have at least the same value as Allen?

29 Dec 2019 19:28:43
no, @itookdonscherry because, FIRST, koskinen's career record is way better, and SECOND, allen has 2 good seasons and he all of a sudden has a lot more value?

29 Dec 2019 19:30:29
just rechecked, allen has more wins and better career record, so i guess allen has a better value. but a 2nd and jones too, take out 2nd and make it a 3rd and it goes through.

29 Dec 2019 20:50:30
Allen sucks per the narrative and gets paid 3 million to much no value at all right yuppy.

29 Dec 2019 20:54:03
Now blues say no for several reasons. I will give the biggest one

1 blues need to cut salary to resign players getting kosk back at same contract worse goalie and longer term does not help.

29 Dec 2019 20:55:55
Edm 3rd is likely property of Calgary when Lucic doesn't score 11 goals as a part of the trade conditions. A minor leaguer forward might work in place of the 2nd.

29 Dec 2019 23:06:50
Blues are not taking back dead salary for minor league players.

30 Dec 2019 00:36:26
Huge overpay for Allen. Blues could easily do this and then trade Koskonen in the off season. Then they get a return on their investment rather than let Allen walk for free at the end of they year. Makes more sense to me. Are you sure your a blues fan redwings?

30 Dec 2019 03:34:54
Allen has 1 year left. Kosk8nan has no value. So you day over pay I laugh. You say that blues could easily move kosk next over the off season. I laugh at you again. Lol

Blues say no.

30 Dec 2019 04:21:00
Yikes. This isn’t a good trade.

30 Dec 2019 13:32:30
How does Koskanen have no value? Please explain to me how a starting goalie, or at least a 1a/ b tandem goalie, that played 55 games last year and is on pace for at least 40 games this year, with decent numbers on a bad defense team like Edmonton has no value? This I got to year.

30 Dec 2019 13:33:46
Why isn’t it a good trade yupp? Who isn’t it a good trade for?

30 Dec 2019 15:29:09
Not a good trade for edm, if there's anything that Allen has proved over and over, he's not the goalie to lead a team. The blues have been really good for a while, but it took a goalie change for them to come from the toilet last year. Allen's numbers always look good, but he won't steal games behind a normal defense.

30 Dec 2019 15:33:33
Let me walk that back a little. Kosk has no value to the blues. If he has so much value then why is it on the blues to figure out how to flip him. He is an average goalie who nets 4.5mil per season for 3 more years. Allen had generally been above average with slumps here and there. He has only 1 year left after this year and is performing leaps and bounds better than kosk.

.931 2.19

Blues will not trade away allen for Junk and a worse goalie. If they trade allen it will be to lose cap to help resign players not bring a subpar goalie on with the same contract as allen for 3 more years,

So maybe kosk has value right now but not to the blues not when they have Winnington, Allen, Husso, Hofer ect.

30 Dec 2019 18:23:21
I agree with not wanting kosk, a more realistic trade would be Smith and a pick for Allen, it would make the blues a bit worse, so it's whether they decide a backup downgrade before playoffs is worth a2nd.

For edm they get a goalie duo, which usually Allen does well in.

30 Dec 2019 19:38:00
I could see it if they were not a contender but they are a ligit contender for the cup so picsk do not help get the cup now.

31 Dec 2019 13:23:07
^redwingsa most biased guy on here. Worse one ever. You really are a homer.

31 Dec 2019 14:13:15
The fact that you think the blus would do this in any way shape or form shows your intelligence level. They are the best team in the west and arguably the best team in the league. they are Stanley cup contenders and one of the most favored to win it again. So they should make a trade that will make them worse for sheet futures and keeping kosk for 4 more years when they need to resign petro. Sounds amazing. you want to call me a homer. fine everyone on this site is, but don't sit here and act like I am wrong in my assessment. It makes you look like a child.

31 Dec 2019 16:17:11
Actually, you look like the child trying to defend this trade and every other blues trade posted on here even when they heavily favor the blues. You put these guys on a pedestal and worship at their feet. If anyone sounds pathetic its you.

31 Dec 2019 17:16:10
Seriously hockeyfanatic if you can't realize I am not defending but opposing this trade then you are dumber than you appear. Blues are win now. Allen is apart of that. They gave binnington 3 games off to rest and Allen won all three. He is currently performing leaps and bounds better than kosk. So the blues who are Stanley cup contenders should trade him and his 1 remaining year for kosk and his 4 at same hit for Jack sheet. Sounds amazingly stupid just like you lol.

21 Dec 2019 01:09:00
To TORONTO:
Walman

To ST. LOUIS:
Bracco

Walman is doing pretty good in AHL. So is Bracco. They are the same age and neither is getting a chance on their current teams.

21 Dec 2019 23:48:39
Must be a perfect trade. Either that or no one knows these two prospects. I thought the Blues guy on here would have something to say at least.

22 Dec 2019 12:31:30
I don’t really like it. But I also really like Bracco. Don’t hate the deal tho.

20 Dec 2019 16:47:13
NY Rangers:
Chris Kreider (4.65m)
Rangers retain 50% of Kreiders salary for a cap hit of 2.325 m

St. Louis Blues:
Jordan Kyrou (758k ELC)
2022 1st round pick
conditional 2020 3rd round pick (becomes a 2nd if St.Louis makes the western conference finals, becomes a 1st if they make the finals AND Kreider resigns with the Blues.)


Similar to the trade value that Hall got from Arizona. Rangers would get at least a top prospect, a 1st and a 3rd round pick for a rental.

At best they'd get a top prospect and two 1sts

20 Dec 2019 17:23:30
This is awful. The blues are not trading kyrou who is on ELC, 1 1st round pick and a conditional pick for Kreider. The blues have Sammy blais and Tarasenko coming back and are first place in the western conference. They just showed Colorado how tough they really are. That was with missing 2 of their top 6 players.

Also the blues can not afford to trade their top picks due to lack of nhl quality players in the minors or juniors. On top of that the blues are going to be resigning petro and dunn in the off season. Their is no room for krieder on the team.

final note: in no world is Krieder getting a better or equal haul as hall. He has never broke 55 points and is on pace for 20 25 goals. The blues have that type of player in spades.

20 Dec 2019 18:41:29
Lol so you're saying Kyrou can't be included. Gotcha.
The trade would still need an NHL player to be going back to NYR because the blues have a full roster. If Kreider is not resigning and the Blues would think of him as a pure rental, I'd still think this is fair.

NYR: Kreider 50% retained (2.325 m)

STL: Zach Sanford, conditional 2020 2nd round pick (becomes their 2020 1st if they make the Western conference finals)

20 Dec 2019 19:53:05
Once again no.

Sandford isn't a big loss to the team but blues need their 1st end pick. Tarasenko and Blais are returning by playoffs tha ts all the reinforcements we need. Krieger isn't needed.

20 Dec 2019 21:13:38
It’s going to take at least Panarin %50 retained + Kaapo just for Kyrou alone.

20 Dec 2019 21:50:49
Kyrou is the next McDavid. Rangers don’t have enough to trade for him. He’s untouchable because he is going to get the Hart trophy in his first full season.

20 Dec 2019 22:26:46
I agree the 1st trade is awful for saint Louis but the 2nd trade is fair. The 1st trade is a better package then what hall got lol.

20 Dec 2019 22:46:42
No we are good got our Russian sniper healing. No need for Krieder noe any other stupid thing yupp suggest. Blues are on top and good to go.

21 Dec 2019 12:48:39
Just because you wouldn't do the trade doesn't mean the Blues wouldn't add the secondary scoring in a push for a 2nd stanley lol. But homers going to home.

I've been wondering, were you a Red Wings fan who got off the wagon and got on the Blues wagon in 2018 or does your name just mean nothing?

18 Dec 2019 15:42:29
To ST. LOUIS:
Ehlers

To WINNIPEG:
Faulk + Husso

St. Louis get a good scoring winger that makes their second line a credible threat. Winnipeg gets a top 4 defenseman signed long term to reasonable price tag.

18 Dec 2019 16:08:43
Winnipeg is not going to give up Ehlers anytime soon, Especially to a division rival.

18 Dec 2019 16:29:07
STL dreams.

18 Dec 2019 17:41:57
Stl needs elf goalie husso. The blues don't need ehlers. I would say no thanks.

18 Dec 2019 19:57:03
So bad.

21 Dec 2019 04:32:09
Colt you’re such a homer holy, not even funny anymore.

18 Dec 2019 00:55:15
To ST. LOUIS:
Ehlers

To WINNIPEG:
Faulk + Husso

St. Louis get a good scoring winger that makes their second line a credible threat. Winnipeg gets a top 4 defenseman signed long term to reasonable price tag.

18 Dec 2019 11:47:57
We're do I start with this one.

Faulk I don t mind trading. Husso is not available he is the blues future backup and possible starter in a couple years. Cheap young back up option. As for making orielly and perron line a credible threat. They already are. All four of the blues lines are a threat and contribute. Try watching a game.

18 Dec 2019 12:11:13
The Jets wouldn't make this trade as they don't need a backup goalie and Ehlers is worth much more than just Faulk.

18 Dec 2019 13:05:17
Yuck, another poorly thought out trade. An all offense, no defense defenseman with a terrible contract doesn't help the Jets at all and a backup goalie prospect doesn't hold a lot of value. You need to watch hockey a bit more HF, so you can begin to understand player values and team needs.

18 Dec 2019 14:22:52
A pretty easy no from Winnipeg. The Jets don't need a goalie prospect and a goalie prospect doesn't carry a lot of value. Nor do the Jets need an overpaid, all offense, no defense defenseman.

18 Dec 2019 16:30:34
Lmao. An overpaid Faulk and a nothing amazing right. Ow goalie doesn’t get you Ehlers.

18 Dec 2019 18:47:38
just like Larson doesn't get you hall?

18 Dec 2019 21:52:35
Ehlers is overpaid, 6 million for a 60 point guy? Who would trade for that contract?

18 Dec 2019 23:25:03
Shoots who said he was over paid?

19 Dec 2019 06:44:46
Classic delusional butt hurt, can’t argue the actual topic on hand because you’re hair a homer so you have to deflect and try and bash something totally off topic. You continue to prove you’re just a joke. Stay on topic.

19 Dec 2019 14:39:56
You sound like a pair of teenaged sisters.

16 Dec 2019 20:36:39
To WINNIPEG:
Parayko

To ST. LOUIS:
Schieffle

Winnipeg gets a top line right shot defense and St. Louis gets a good center that makes their second line a bigger threat.

16 Dec 2019 20:45:57
No thanks from Winnipeg. Poorly thought out proposal as usual. The Jets need Scheifele far more than they need Parayko.

16 Dec 2019 20:50:21
Lol really is this a joke thread. Blues already have a great set of centers.

Orielly
Schenn
Thomas
Bozak
Sundqvuist
Barbashev

So yeah let's trade the blues best defensive Dman for shiefle. This makes zero sense for blues.

16 Dec 2019 21:04:13
Memarcus. I will agree that the trade sucks but parayko is worth way more than schifle.

16 Dec 2019 21:19:49
I don't believe parayko is worth more than scheifele, I would give scheifele the advantage by a bit as he's proven to be a good#1 centre, parayko hasn't proven he's a#1d. He might prove it later, but hasn't yet.

But either way, to defend Memarcus for the first time, he said scheifele is worth more to Winnipeg right now. They do need scheifele more than parayko atm.

16 Dec 2019 21:28:36
Yes Redwing1, the trade is terrible. Par for the course for HockeyFanatic. However, I disagree about Parayko being worth more. Scheifele is a better center than Parayko is a defenseman. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

16 Dec 2019 21:35:57
I'm sorry Marcus I do agree with you. Just because parayko gets 30 40 points dosnr mean he has less value he actually plays defense. He is better at defence then most top rated dmen. So like I was agree to disagree.

16 Dec 2019 21:40:53
The Jets wouldn't trade their #1 amd top 5 NHL center on an unbelievable contract for a great d-man who in 2 years is an UFA when the Jets still need a #2 center.

16 Dec 2019 21:41:02
If Schieffle is more valuable than Matthews then he def isn’t worth Parayko.
I take Schieffle over Parayko all day long. Schieffle is a top 10 center ad Parayko isn’t even close to being able to bring in a top 10 C.
Top 10 C in no particular order
Mcdavid Drai McKinnon Crosby Malkin Barkov Eichel Schieffle Bergeron > Petterson Matthews Tavares Stamkos Seguin Kopitar
I would say Scheiffle is a top 8/ 9 center in the league no way Parayko gets you that.

16 Dec 2019 21:41:23
*Don't agree with you.

17 Dec 2019 00:01:40
Wow joe. You don’t like a proposal so you go on the attack? No need to get personal. That’s what makes you such a homer. Not your delusional fantasies about what you think Winnipeg players are worth or that you talk like you are a member of the organization, but the fact that you take it personal and attack anyone who posts something new or that you disagree with. Your last post was Nylander for Ristolainen. Everything you said about my post can easily be said about yours.

17 Dec 2019 01:17:59
Yupp you are still bhurt brah

#triggred.

17 Dec 2019 13:29:51
It's not personal HockeyFanatic, it's just obvious that you put very little thought and have very little knowledge of any team needs with every proposal you make. The Jets don't have the center depth to trade away their 1C, yet you propose the Jets trade Scheifele away for help on defense. Your obvious hatred for the Jets and inability to be unbiased is why everyone rips your proposals when you make them.

17 Dec 2019 13:39:46
Joe simmer down. This is a hypothetical trade site. No need to lash out at people. Especially when you like everyone else her has a bias toward their team. It's ok breath brah.

17 Dec 2019 13:49:59
i live in Winnipeg, but not a jets fan at all. i have to say though, scheifele is an unreal player. 80+ points, 200 foot game, signed for another 4-5 years at just over 6 mill a year. it would take more than parayko to get him. in my opinion.

17 Dec 2019 14:22:26
Where did I lash out at anyone Redwing1? You guys read far too much into posts.

17 Dec 2019 16:11:14
Hockey guy. Totally understandable. People need to take team needs into consideration and player value to that team. Like schifle parayko is an intrical part of the blues defense and he can not be replaced. I think ms is the same for elk.

With that said both sides turn down this offer.

17 Dec 2019 18:00:50
You’re still a homer 😂😂.
In no world does Parayko get you a top 10 C in the league. Lmao. You’re such a homer STILL :) . I’m laughing AT you not with you.

17 Dec 2019 20:05:19
Blues add Schenn and a 3rd.

17 Dec 2019 22:18:26
Yupp triggered again.

17 Dec 2019 22:27:07
Blues don't need MS.

Seriously defending cup champions. Pretty sure that road went through wpg. So pretty sure blues say no thsnks.

14 Dec 2019 17:23:43
With NJ scratching Hall last minute last night in Colorado for precautionary reasons it seems he’s played his last game as a Devil.
Reading that COL, AZ and STL are the most interested with BOS, EDM shown interest. Believed that AZ and STL are the most interested. I’ve read COL would offer something around Girard, Jost, conditional pick and maybe another prospect.
STL might be offering a deal around #1 superstar center Robert Thomas and Allen with Dominique coming back to STL from NJ with Hall.
AZ is going “all in” some are saying also.

Bidding war going on? NJ plays on AZ today and I’m sure they would like him to just stay.

14 Dec 2019 17:47:35
FLA has shown interest as well and it’s said Trocheck would be in on an offer.

Reading COL might be out on Hall and STL could be a front runner now.

14 Dec 2019 22:46:18
AZ now front runner. Making a huge push. Some reports saying they are working on finalizing a deal.

16 Dec 2019 15:51:03
Who is the front runner now?

16 Dec 2019 16:46:32
I’ve read a few times AZ basically had a deal on place. Not sure what’s going on now. Few teams going hard after him. STL, AZ, Col and Fla. I’d be surprised if they keep him out of the lineup for a long time.

16 Dec 2019 19:02:50
I hear new jersey is not willing to let teams talk extension with hall, that new jersey is shopping Arizona's offer to a third party and
because offers are low for his rental services the Oilers could be back in the picture.
Florida could still be in, but they may target krieder instead.

13 Dec 2019 18:47:52
Kings Trade
Toffoli

Blues Trade
Kyrou

Thoughts ?

13 Dec 2019 20:24:54
Not any good ones. Blues need elcs Kyrou is nhl ready fast and has looked very good for 21 year old. Rather keep kyrou.

13 Dec 2019 21:30:19
LA laughs and gangs up. Kyrou has 3 points in 18 NHL games, not sure how that is "looking very good". He might become a fourth liner in the NHL one day but Toffoli is already a top 6 player.

13 Dec 2019 22:09:39
No from the Blues.

14 Dec 2019 00:37:18
Dmantha. Evaluating young talent isn't based solely on points. Look at fabbri he was a bust to the world till he got a legit chance with Detroit. Playing top line minutes. Now he is looking to be close to ppg. So if you are going to rate some one watch them play instead of just looking at stat sheets.

14 Dec 2019 03:11:36
Kyrou is a future heart trophy winner. Blues laugh. Nothing in the Kings organization is worth him.

14 Dec 2019 09:39:20
Toffoli is a free agent that can be had for probably a 2nd+. Not sure what Kyrou’s value is but probably a no from the Blues.

14 Dec 2019 11:08:53
Yupp your so freaking funny lol.

Kyrou is young and on elf. He has bee ooh in stl and is looking pretty good. Blues will develop him and kostin. Cause after that the forward prospect pool is not good.

14 Dec 2019 12:38:57
"Look at fabbri he was a bust to the world till he got a legit chance with Detroit. "

Actually to the world Fabbri was considered a future key piece of the Blues until 2 knee surgeries set his career back.

Kyrou might pan out and be a top 9 forward in 3 years, but if St. Louis is serious about being back to back champions I'd consider Kyrou on the trading block and Toffoli as a legit option for the Blues to upgrade their forward depth.

14 Dec 2019 15:25:57
Kyrou has “bee oh” all right.

14 Dec 2019 17:23:26
Sorry but kyrou just isn't getting traded. Blues won their cup last year and with kyrou kostin they will be able to keep the window open for a while.

Blues just got sunny back. They will get Steen back soon. Then you have Blais and tarasenko. No need to get a 27 yr old that is 45pt pave player.

Sorry but army won't make that trade.

14 Dec 2019 17:27:10
You’re* as in “I am” so funny. Thanks. So many mistakes there. Not even sure what you’re talking about there really.

Also pretty crazy Blues are offering up #1 center Robert Thomas in a deal for UFA Hall. Crazy.

14 Dec 2019 17:27:36
I mean #3 center, or winger*.

14 Dec 2019 17:49:22
With all those amazing assets and wingers you’re listing there, why would Army by in on Hall? You’re not on the same page.

14 Dec 2019 22:13:42
Ves is the same age as Kyrou and Thomas. You say they suck with bottom six potential but Ves is a ton of potential waiting to explode on nhl scene. No sense of irony there eh?

15 Dec 2019 15:49:10
Yup where does it say army offered Robert thomas. If that's the case wouldn't he have been a scratch last night. Your doing nothing more than regurgitating speculation from in trust worthy sources. Why would blues go all in on a player they can not resign and lose a player of Thomas ability. It doesn't make sense. But hey you know every thing yupp a dupp.

09 Dec 2019 20:02:34
Habs: Dunn

BLUES: Leikonnen and Brook.

10 Dec 2019 00:00:26
Blues can not afford to trade any young lhd assets.

07 Dec 2019 19:55:47
Leafs interested in Pietrangelo.

Chatter surrounded the Blues that Pietrangelo was not happy when the team acquired Faulk and then signed him to an extension immediately, meanwhile the team hasn’t made any legit offers to him.

The Leafs are willing to include Nylander in the deal if they are allowed to work on contract extension during trade negotiations.

If no extension talks are included in the trade, the Leafs prefer to include Kapanen, In case Petro walks after the season. The deal also included Liljigren and a 2nd.

Petro currently holds a no trade clause but the the feeling is Toronto is a no brainer for the King City Ontario native.
Blues don’t want to risk losing him for nothing at end of the season.

Article/ rumor out there now.

I myself think he will stay and sign an extension in STL.

08 Dec 2019 00:22:43
If Pietrangelo feels threatened by Faulk then that’s Pietrangelo’s ego complex problem. If it’s true m, what does that tell you about his character? Pietrangelo threatened by Faulk. Lol.

08 Dec 2019 02:35:52
OMG NO. Alex is NOT coming to Toronto. Your rumor is a joke . Not even in the realm of being legit.

08 Dec 2019 02:46:49
Only way he leaves St Louis is if St Louis doesn’t want to sign him. More so, if Leafs want to top blue-liner than one of their big three need to go, I mean unless they think Rielly and Petro can carry their blue-line by themselves, because no way they’d be able to sign any other defensemen.

08 Dec 2019 11:18:10
Not saying I am going for this but if tor did sign for 10 it's only 3 more than nylander. You will just have to keep elc s coming in. I think he will resign with blues.

08 Dec 2019 12:32:14
Clarkson and Horton come off the books at the end of the season, and I doubt Ceci will be offered another contract, so that's $14 million in spending money to work with.

When people mention the cap issues with Toronto I feel like they're overlooking the fact that Dubas is already thinking further ahead than the fans are.

08 Dec 2019 13:20:26
Hall and Mark Stone will be good comparables to what St. Louis will potentially get in a trade. Don’t think he’s moved imo I know one thing tho if he’s moved everyone will be shocked on here because people are to stupid to realize UFAs aren’t worth a lot.

08 Dec 2019 13:52:49
I agree with you on all points vb. Well said.

08 Dec 2019 15:59:35
He wasn’t threatened by Faulk, it’s suggesting he was kissed off with the organization because he felt it was a lack of respect not even being talked to about a contract. It’s principle. You probably don’t understand. Lol
And ya, Dubas is really thinking ahead. Like he did with the 3 year +35 contract he gave out when he knew Marner and Matthews deals would kick in on that third year and he’d be screwed. Or was his plan always to have to give away valuable assets (1st) just to get rid of that “mistake”. Now that’s thinking ahead. 😂.

09 Dec 2019 11:12:30
Marleau wasnt signing anywhere else without that 3 year cushion. I'm not Dubas but I imagine what he was thinking was that the 2017-2018 team would have been able to contend much better and that 3 year contract was their window to try and win a cup before the kids got their big contracts?

06 Dec 2019 01:01:56
To Blues:
Kreider

To Rangers:
Bouwmeester + Kyrou + 1st

Kreider is worth a prospect + 1st to a contender. JayBo is a cap dump. Do Blues pull the trigger on this deal?

06 Dec 2019 08:46:32
I think they accept

06 Dec 2019 12:59:04
Several reasons why blues do not pull the trigger.


1) Jaybo is currently their best LHD they have. You say he is a cap dump when he is worth every penny he is getting and is ufa at end of year. He was part of the best shut down pairing in the Stanley cup champion blues.

2) Kyrou is the blues best forward prospect and is recovering from off season surgery that had him miss the entire training camp. he is ppg in the AHL and is the much needed skill and speed the blues need on ELC. he will be on nhl roster here real soon.

3) Blues can not afford to give away first round picks anymore. They are severally depleted on their farm system. They need to draft to replenish the cupboard.

Blues say no to this deal.

06 Dec 2019 15:13:29
Bouwmeester is done. Talk him up any way you want, he is not a top 4 nhl defenseman anymore. Kyrou is an okay prospect but isn’t nearly living up to the hype when drafted. And the 1st is going to be like 30th overall considering how good Blues playing this year. Contending teams trade their picks/ prospects in attempt to enter the playoffs with the strongest team possible. It’s just the nature of the business.

06 Dec 2019 16:14:49
Parayko is playing 1LD isn’t he? I noticed that the other night and dailyfacoff shows him LD with Petro RD.

06 Dec 2019 19:52:44
Yes yupp is correct. He has been placed with petro but it is being changed as the game goes on. When I said top lhd I was speaking of handedness and natural position.

The lines have been starting like this.

Parayko petro
Jaybo faulk
Dunn borts

There has been chatter that when gunner returns it will be changed back to

Gunner petro
Jaybo parayko
Dunn faulk

It's been an evolving line shuffle.

06 Dec 2019 19:57:19
Also on a side note blues are missing Blais Steen, sunny and tarasenko. Once they are healthy again it will be like getting a deadline acquisition on its own. Blues are good to go need to maintain their defense tgatscwhen won them the cup last year.

07 Dec 2019 00:43:43
Kyrou and a 1st seems like a lot. Maybe one of them and a lesser prospect.

Not sure Jbow is part of the deal, Blues need to be adding not subtracting really.

05 Dec 2019 16:39:15
STL- Bortuzzo and allen 50% retained

TOR- ceci and liljgren

so basically getting rid of ceci, adding allen at 2.3 and borts for rough third pairing defender on rh side for liljgren.

05 Dec 2019 19:26:25
No from leafs Ceci is the Number 1 dman currentl For them and Lili replaces Barrie next season. Would be beyond stupid.

05 Dec 2019 20:33:14
vBs comment is beyond ridiculous. Ceci is not a number 1 on any team. He is miscast as a top pairing dman and Keefe saw the light hopefully as he dropped Ceci to the bottom pairing last night.

05 Dec 2019 21:34:52
Say what you want but ceci is not the problem is Toronto.

05 Dec 2019 21:39:35
He has the highest average Toi in the leafs since Keef has taken over.

05 Dec 2019 22:25:44
@redwing. What do you think if St. Louis tried to trade Husso instead of Allen? Is there a deal there to be made that would satisfy both teams?

06 Dec 2019 02:01:10
I doubt it he is the next inline. Stl will need as much cap to resign petro ect. Husso is projected to be better than binnington. Maybe a year from now if hofer continues to improve.

06 Dec 2019 03:19:09
In the last game Ceci was moved away from Reilly and onto the 3rd pair. I hope it continues as Ceci is train wreck.

06 Dec 2019 08:20:21
@redwing. Binnington is still so young though. By next in line, you mean replace Binnington? Why would Blues do that when he lead them to the cup last year and is playing so good still this year? It’s not like Binnington is old and they need to think about replacing him.

02 Dec 2019 16:26:02
Tor- Kappy

Stl- Allen 50% retained 3rdpick

kappy 3.2
allen 2.2

That saves Tor 1 mill gives them a back up goalie playing extremely well right now and they can bring up the great Jeremy Bracco to fill kappy's spot.

02 Dec 2019 18:51:32
Lol. happy for an overpaid backup. No thanks.

02 Dec 2019 19:11:44
Allen has no value, even with retention. The leafs will not be trading one of the fastest forwards in the game for a backup goalie.

02 Dec 2019 19:27:11
That’s a great idea. Leafs give up a roster player that plays every game for a backup that will play maybe 20 games the rest of the year, if that. Gee. I don’t know why Dubas hasn’t made that trade yet already.

02 Dec 2019 21:32:49
I have to agree with the Leaf fans here. Allen is pretty much worthless.

02 Dec 2019 22:17:31
Well unfortunately those 20 games that the backup goalie will play will be the difference of making the playoffs are not. Its that's fine.

02 Dec 2019 22:28:52
Ew Allen is trash.

03 Dec 2019 00:35:56
Toronto would be beyond stupid to do this. Kappy is only 23, has some of the best wheels in the game, and is a pretty decent penalty killer. They don't need a goalie who is overpaid and below average.

03 Dec 2019 01:32:36
Yeah. If he wins half of them. Which I doubt.

03 Dec 2019 12:59:34
pretty much worthless allen had a 38 save shutout last night. I am sure that's something the leafs could use. especially when hutch has only gotten 1 point and allen has gotten 12 points has a .926 sv%. But yeah pretty much worthless.

03 Dec 2019 14:17:48
You’re right he is pretty much worthless.

03 Dec 2019 15:19:55
He defiantly is the difference between blues being in first in the western conference and 3rd in the nhl overall. It is probably in the blues best interest to just keep him.

03 Dec 2019 15:52:39
Glad you see it that way too RedWing.

03 Dec 2019 16:31:25
Blues wouldn't do this. Allen has value. And berube wouldn't want a periphery player.

03 Dec 2019 16:36:36
Have to. He is 5 1 2. He has 12 points out of a possible 16. He currently just got a 38 save shutout and his sv% is .926. Signed for 2 more years.

26 Nov 2019 13:02:04
Tor:
Allen (half price)

STL:
Hutchinson
Timashov

26 Nov 2019 15:53:13
Blues are not retaining. No thanks.

26 Nov 2019 22:08:20
If you trade Allen you will be retaining. Nobody wants to pay a backup goalie $4.35M/ year.

27 Nov 2019 00:34:29
So let's do the math.

Hutch = 700k and has 4.44 GAA .897 SV%

Allen = 4.35m 2.94 GAA .904 sv%

So basically by retaining 50% tha ts 2.175m for Allen to tor and we would essentially be paying Hutchinson ( who is replacing him) 700k and 2.175m

So now we have a far less stable goalie at 2.875m wtf for finish of

Lol no thanks not retaining rather just keep him.

27 Nov 2019 14:28:47
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I wasn't referring to this trade in particular - if he is traded I can't see it happening without retaining. I see how in this scenario it doesn't work out well for the blues, however your "math" on the trade doesn't touch on the prospect you would be getting either.

27 Nov 2019 20:27:53
Leafs would be much better to peruse Casey desmith.

21 Nov 2019 21:58:05
Stl - faulk sandford

Tor sandin ceci ( cap dump) kappy.

22 Nov 2019 09:54:31
Faulk is garbage. Leafs could have had him already if they wanted. You don’t think Carolina offered them Faulk for Kapanen first already?

22 Nov 2019 13:56:07
If faulk is garbage what does that make the entire RHD corps for Toronto. cause he is by far better than any RHD that tor has. Also Tyson barrie may get more points but he is a defensive liability and faulk seems to be performing very well defensively for the blues. Once he settles in with our system he will start increasing his points.

Also last night they moved Thomas to center and his line dominated for 4 goals against Calgary. Thomas is amazing he makes sundqvuist and Sandford better.

22 Nov 2019 14:40:40
bro redwing before faulk went to the blues you called him a liability lmfao just because he's a blue doesn't make him elite. him and barrie are the same lol, we aren't giving up our best prospect for a guy who only went for bokk.

22 Nov 2019 15:46:12
What does Toronto defense corps have to do with anything here anyway? I said Faulk was garbage and Toronto didn’t want him. Whether Toronto’s defense is garbage already or not is irrelevant. They would still be garbage after making this trade.

22 Nov 2019 16:47:17
I never once mentioned faulk. Please by all means share where I did. Calling you out on that sheet toppers.

22 Nov 2019 16:51:12
Not all dmen are #1 Riley's petros ect. They put Jaybo with Parayko and they were the best defensive dman pair in the playoffs. You never know. I honestly think the best dman for TOR to pair with Riley would be Pesce. You get riley a dman like that and it will do leaps and bounds for your dcore.

16 Nov 2019 19:34:06
The New Jersey Devils and Montreal Canadians have been increasingly vocal on the basis of management (GM) talks since Friday the 8th, post Taylor Hall's agent, Darren Ferris, interview. Unlikely the talks concern of a Hall trade, a small trade may pave the way for a large trade later this season.

The question remains, what could the Devils and Canadians be discussing. I have heard two different answers from a single source inside the Devils management. Firstly, the Devils are beginning trade negotiations for Taylor Hall. Secondly, the Devils are making trade negotiations for a defender, likely Chiarot or Leskinen. The return for either of these players would likely be Miles Wood or Michael McCleod.

(Per a unanimous source, confirmed to be familiar with the day to day operations of clubs using the Prudential Center as their home arena.)

16 Nov 2019 22:38:15
Two different answers from a single source? He’s trustworthy.

16 Nov 2019 22:48:50
Obviously legit seeing that it is from a “Contributor”. Who knows what they are talking about. Why don’t you give us a hint? You’re the one with all the inside information.

16 Nov 2019 23:15:54
I doubt Leskinen gets either of those players and I don't think MTL should be trading Chiarot for either of those players. At the beginning of the season I would of taken anything to get rid of Chiarot, I thought he was going to be another but cheaper Karl Alzner. The last 8 games or so he's been are third best defensemen an arguably the best LHD overall this season. But value wise if we get a guy like Miles Wood for a guy that we just had to sign, it's good asset management. Might look bad for future possible UFA's that are debating to sign in MTL tho.

16 Nov 2019 23:17:01
Lol imagine NJ doing that.

17 Nov 2019 18:27:01
You just copied my tweet that was actually from someone in the devils management and wrote some bs.

@brandonfranks23 on Twitter was where he got the first part from.

18 Nov 2019 09:23:11
Subban for Weber?

15 Nov 2019 22:44:34
Rangers: Kreider
Blues: Kyrou

Kreider is hands down better than Kyrou. Blues want to repeat, Kreider is a huge step in the right direction.

16 Nov 2019 08:43:25
Can't afford krieder and rather watch kyrou grow and he is elc.

16 Nov 2019 11:29:16
I see Kyrou as a possible bust, nothing special they're so no from Rnagers.

16 Nov 2019 12:27:46
No from Rangers

16 Nov 2019 15:30:51
Lol how is Kyrou a possible bust. He’s doing very well in the Farm System while only being 21. I think Rangers take this for sure.

16 Nov 2019 23:19:58
@vbbbvvbb,

He’s 21 and in the farm system. Nuff said.

17 Nov 2019 08:04:16
Lol, so he is in his second year of all and that makes him a bust. Lmfao.

18 Nov 2019 09:11:02
On the Stanley cup winning team.

 
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