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23 Jul 2020 03:20:00
Blues
Faulk

Leafs
Johnson
Dermitt.

23 Jul 2020 11:59:13
I’d give Nylander to the Blues to keep Faulk. He’s awful the leafs need a PKing defensive dman who plays 25 min a night and as soon as the puck leaves the defensive zone he skates off. Not the exact opposite. Faulk is garbage and overpayed he is garbage now and always has been same as Tony DeAngelo.

23 Jul 2020 12:00:08
How about Lucic to the blues for Kyrou and Dunn.

23 Jul 2020 16:00:32
Leafs can’t afford that and Faulk isn’t the defensively reliable guy we need.

24 Jul 2020 03:27:28
How bout no vb. Lucic is the definition of suck.

24 Jul 2020 16:44:43
Both players suck lol.

24 Jul 2020 16:58:47
i will have to say that faulk is way more than lucic.

19 Jul 2020 15:30:19
Tor: Parayko
Stl: Kapanen Dermott 2021 2and

Leafs then dump johnson for whatever

19 Jul 2020 16:42:14
Ok. Yeah sure. That works for you Leaf fans real good. Congratulations. I'm surprised this trade didn't happen already.

19 Jul 2020 16:58:26
This is where he got the idea from

19 Jul 2020 18:13:50
Why do most of the Leaf post try to trade combinations of Dermott, Bracco, Kerfoot, Mikheyev, Johnsson, Lilly, Holl, Engvall, Brooks, Malgin, Woll, Gauthier and Kapanen for top end players when they are just over hyped and over paid spare parts? Teams don't want or need these players and won't trade a top 6 forwards or top 3 d-men for them. You wonder why people laugh at these one sided Leaf trade posts.

20 Jul 2020 00:00:23
Paryanko would be the last player the blues trade.

20 Jul 2020 00:38:57
Sorry. I didn't realize the post was unfinished. The trade from Leafs says 2nd and. So depending on what the and is it might be worth it. Sandin or Robertson. Something like that.

20 Jul 2020 11:07:34
Yeah no thanks parayko will be blue for life great dman.

20 Jul 2020 14:01:58
How many accounts are you at now Colt?

20 Jul 2020 18:12:49
turkey, this is my fourh account and i am not using the other ones. Just changed my name.

22 Jul 2020 01:20:40
To all edm and leaf fans. parayko is untouchable. thanks


Ps. Stop with the bad trade offers for him. Its z pipe dream.

23 Jul 2020 02:01:17
Why not just change your name to BluesTroll? We all know it's you anyway.

23 Jul 2020 02:01:49
It's guys like you that bring disgrace to our team. You are not a fan but a petty insolent child.

16 Jul 2020 15:27:10
Mtl- domi 3rd pick 2020

Buff- ristolanen


Mtl- byron

Stl- perron-allen


Buff get 2c

Stl relieve huge cap

Mtl get a young d to play with weber( even if he rhd)
And get a decent rw

16 Jul 2020 17:31:57
St. Louis would never make that trade. I can agree that Allen will be traded, but after his stellar season he has earned back some value. Plus Perron is probably one of the most underrated forwards in the league and is easily a top line winger.

If St. Louis wants to re-sign Pietrangelo and clear cap, they are going to trade Bozak, Steen, and Allen. They have enough young players to get rid of Steen and Bozak’s contract, while Allen’s simply isn’t that bad.

I could see Allen going to Buffalo and working a tandem with Ullmark, especially with the history between those two teams.

16 Jul 2020 17:56:50
I agree. Byron has very close to zero value with his contract, so there is no reason for the Blues to add Perron.

The Risto deal seems close for value.

16 Jul 2020 18:43:41
Byron is a leader and has worked to earn that contract. Now he’s just a veteran on the 4th line who is overpayed but brings leadership and speed he has zero value to any team besides the Canadians with his contract.

16 Jul 2020 19:09:31
Buff won't play for the Habs.

17 Jul 2020 11:57:50
Islandjet. Not sure what your post indicates. The Buff in the posts mean Buffalo.

17 Jul 2020 22:50:55
I can't believe that two more people than ij can't read a simple post and understand it. Looks like ij really is just a know nothing kid with a phone.

15 Jul 2020 19:22:06
Potential CGY offseason:

Sign Taylor Hall 8.5x5-7 years, hometown discount.

Let rieder, Brodie, hamonic, and Gustafson walk. Use cap for Hall.

To Cgy:
Brandon Montour
To Bug:
Oliver kylington
4th round pick

To Cgy:
John Marino
To Pitt:
Mark Jankowski
Ilya Nikolaev

To Cgy:
Oscar Sundquist
To STL:
2020 2nd, B prospect

Gaudreau-Monahan-lindholm
Hall-Backlund-Tkachuk
Mangiapane-Dube-Sundquist
Bennett-Ryan-Lucic

Giordano-Andersson
Hanafin-Marino
Valimaki-Montour
Forbort

Rittich

Potential bigger shakeup is those trade except not Sundquist trade, Gaudreau + second for Point, in which case:

Hall-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Point-Mangiapane
Dube-Backlund-Bennett
Pelletier-Ryan-Lucic

15 Jul 2020 20:33:20
No chance Pittsburgh takes that

No chance Buffalo takes that

The only trade that may be close is St. Louis, depending on the prospect.

15 Jul 2020 20:41:21
yeah blues have zero interest in trading oskar sundvquist. Especially for a B prospect LOL.

15 Jul 2020 20:45:50
Gaudreau and a second does NOT get Point lmao

All those trades are a bit in Calgary’s favor.

16 Jul 2020 00:04:39
Pens aren’t trading Marino, esp not for that lol

Also brutal offer for Point.

16 Jul 2020 04:25:58
Also, don't think Hall is going to accept that contract as it's terrible for him.

Not even going to spend time talking about how he is worth more than 8.5 now, every season as the salary cap rises his deal will become worse and worse for him.

Personally, I see him signing for 10M+.

16 Jul 2020 14:02:00
TysonBarrie you do realize the cap is locked for 3 years right?

17 Jul 2020 01:19:15
@vb
What? I've never heard that. I have heard about the salary cap being the same for 2020-2021 season but nothing beyond that. Also, how can a salary cap be locked? Isn't it based off a % of total revenue?

17 Jul 2020 06:05:32
No the salary cap isn’t determined that easily. But yes it’s locked to prevent a dramatic salary cap drop due to lost revenue.

15 Jul 2020 17:18:30
Mtl- byron-mete-poehling-2nd pick

Stl- Perron-allen-dunn

15 Jul 2020 17:29:55
no thanks.

15 Jul 2020 17:44:41
Holy, Vince Dunn prolly gets more than that alone.

15 Jul 2020 17:46:30
No thanks from MTL. Dunn would be nice but his contract is over and he is a RFA. Allen is too expensive for a BUG and is only on contract for 1 more year. Perron might waive his NTC to move home but is in his 30s and we don't need to be getting older and trading away our youth.

15 Jul 2020 20:43:00
its ok turkey blues wouldn't do this so no need to worry.

16 Jul 2020 00:05:25
Really bad for STL lol.

17 Jul 2020 22:59:25
St. Louis would gladly accept this. The loss of Dunn hurts, but the cap savings give us the ability to sign Petrol and we bring in some youth. Poehling is going to be great. He might be able to replace Tarasenko one day.

14 Jul 2020 18:30:28
NSH:
Jarnkrok, 3rd 2020
TOR:
Kerfoot, Engvall, Hollowell

Leafs get a more rounded 3C and clear a bit of cap.

Nashville seems to need a few more depth players up front and they probably need to get a little younger sooner rather than later with guys like Turris and Bonino on their roster.
Kerfoot and Engvall provide both of these things. They are also good defensively which would allow guys like to play a bigger offensive role.
Hollowell is simply there to make the value even, and honestly Nashville needs more young defence, and although Hollowell doesn't have a very high ceiling, he could play a great bottom pairing role for them in the future.

16 Jul 2020 00:08:13
Jarnrok plays wing not C.

16 Jul 2020 11:33:13
I thought he could play both.

27 Jun 2020 13:22:04
Say Leafs get 1st overall and draft Laf

Tor: Parayko
Stl: Nylander Dermott

27 Jun 2020 13:46:54
Fair trade but it would depend on if Pietrangelo walks or not. If we walks St. Louis keeps Parayko. If he remains on the Blues St. Louis would probably do it.

27 Jun 2020 14:34:32
Saint Louis laughs. Paryanko for Mathews is a fair swap but before Colt comes in I know Saint Louis wouldn’t do that because they’re already losing Pietrangelo.

27 Jun 2020 15:11:42
Vb stop trolling man lol.

27 Jun 2020 16:01:31
With that response we now know vbbbvvbb under values all Leafs Players, no way the Leafs even consider that proposal.

27 Jun 2020 16:28:29
I’m not trolling a lot of people just look at offensive production but Paryanko and Slavin are 2 top 5 dman but just because they aren’t offensive a lot of people overlook them.

27 Jun 2020 17:06:37
Vb you also said Roy is a top 5 dman in the league.

27 Jun 2020 18:26:01
Makar, Hughes, Dahlin, Hedman, Karlsson, Carlson, Jones, Josi, Doughty, Burns, Weber, and Pietrangelo are all WAY BETTER then Parayko imo. So to say Parayko is a top 5 d in the league is a big exaggeration.

And those are just the guys that are way better. My list doesn’t even include those that are slightly better.

27 Jun 2020 18:43:45
I said Roy was top 5 in 1 specific stat which is a fact I think it was least amount of goals per 60 min compared to team average. He’s not even a top 60 dman. Dahlin, Hughes, Makar, Karlsson, Carlson etc are 1 dimensional dman not even close to Paryanko ( Dahlin will be better but not yet ) . Obviously I know you clearly don’t know positions in hockey because Dman play defence their roles isn’t to put up points it’s to defend and that’s what Paryanko does best he’s a shut down dman who logs huge minutes.

27 Jun 2020 19:19:39
Lol just because guys like Carlson put up really good offensive numbers doesn’t mean they are rubbish at defence. It’s possible to be good at both.

27 Jun 2020 20:18:16
Of that list Carlson and Dahlin are the best defensively but still not close to Paryanko he shut down the Bruins top line with ease in the playoffs.

28 Jun 2020 07:35:27
Hey if he isn't that good why does everyone want him. I agree with vb defense men who score points generally are not the greatest shut down. Parayko gets 30+ points and is one of the best shutdown. D in the league.

28 Jun 2020 19:55:04
Vb, you’ve said some stupid sh*t before, and I know you'll continue to do so, but Hughes is so far from a ‘one dimensional d-man’ that it isn’t even funny.

I know you don’t like to because you’d see how wrong you are 95% of the time, but please, please do some research before opening your mouth.

28 Jun 2020 23:15:07
I like Hughes but he is as 1 dimensional as it gets. I’m sorry : ( he’s a great player but he’ll never be a Brad Park. Hopefully you’ll be okay with that : (.

29 Jun 2020 15:25:16
It’s alright, it just proves how clueless you are. Offensively, defensively, the guy is amazing in every aspect of the game, if you actually watched him you would know that. I understand your hatred is born from jealously though, so I won’t say much more on it (:

15 Jun 2020 16:30:28
Potential Eichel trade to HABS:

What is the one thing SABRES have needed for years? Goaltending.

HABS TRADE:

Price
Kotkaniemi
Domi
1st round pick 2020 (unprotected)
2nd round pick 2020 (STL)

SABRES TRADE

Eichel
Montour

Salary wise, this trade is fine for both teams.

Buffalo finally gets a goalie, a top center prospect and a top 10 pick to build for futur.

Habs finally get a true number 1 center and help on D.

There are interesting goalie UFA's this offseason for Habs to look at.

15 Jun 2020 17:26:59
I'm pretty sure Price has a no movement clause? He wouldn't waive for Buffalo.

15 Jun 2020 17:29:38
Sabres decline easily.

15 Jun 2020 18:16:50
Goalies aren't worth much in a trade especially when they have a high dollar, long contract going through their declining years and the rest won't get you Eichel.

15 Jun 2020 18:38:58
Price has no value, 10 mil for an above average goalie is an anchor of a contract no team would want.

16 Jun 2020 00:10:26
Buffalo declines? LMFAO wow.

There would be a riot in Montreal if all this was offered for Eichel lol he's a great player yeah but no way he's worth one of if not the best goalie in the last 20 years, 2 young top end players like kotkoniemi and Domi, plus a 2nd and a very likely top 10 pick possible lottery pick 1st. Are you insane? I know Montreal needs a center but auctioning their future to get it. Nah man.

16 Jun 2020 10:00:00
Your all joking Right! Every team in the league would want Price or any other elite goalie even at 10 Mil a year on the back end of their career. Goalies do not decline like skaters, how many elite goalies have had terrible years 2 or 3 in a row then went to the cup finals either winning or losing?

Even if Price is on the decline and I personally do not think he is he is still better than half the goalies in the league. I would rather have Price in net any day of the week over Freddy Andersen, Corey Crawford, Ben Bishop, Bobrovski, Either of the Canes goalies, Grubeur, Talbot, Smith, Markstrom, Either Jersey goalie, Merzlikins, Hart (Although he is starting to come into his own right now and will be able to steal games like Price in a year or 2), any of the 6 California goalies, and either of the Sabres goalies.

Price may be over paid by 2-4 Mil depending on who's opinion your going by but almost every team in the league would give a kings ransom to get him. Cause he can flat out steal games and series that teams like the Habs have no business being in in the first place.

11 Jun 2020 13:12:36
Blues Trade
RThomas
Pietrangelo (His UFA Rights)

Leafs Trade
Kerfoot
Kapanen
Dermott
1st Round Pick 2021 (Not Lottery Protected)

Thoughts ?

11 Jun 2020 13:37:37
So stupid Petrangelos UFA rights hold close to zero value they can sign him for free.

11 Jun 2020 14:46:13
vbbbvvbb the rights give them first crack to sign Pietrangelo before he becomes a UFA. Dubas can then get a contract done before he is unrestricted. That's why you do it.

11 Jun 2020 15:40:43
Too much to hope that Dubas can get Petro to sign for $10 mil a year to play with the Leafs.

11 Jun 2020 16:13:16
No it’s non sense he would want to listen to what other teams have to offer.

11 Jun 2020 19:48:59
Lol what a dumb trade for Leafs, if Blues can’t sign him they’re not getting more than a 4th for his rights imo, any of these pieces alone is a big overpayment let alone all 4 lmao.

11 Jun 2020 21:03:42
Oh no. Can't trade Thomas. He's a future 1C. Hahahaha.

Some Leafs fan you are pinball.

12 Jun 2020 00:41:56
Petro and bozak rights for a 4th.

13 Jun 2020 12:51:46
Not trading Thomas fyi stl fan you sure do like me don't you.

11 Jun 2020 03:44:14
Divisional trade.
WPG
Laine
Appleton

STL
Thomas
Dunn
Barbashev

11 Jun 2020 06:12:38
No from Winnipeg. Big no.

11 Jun 2020 07:34:46
Solid no from this blues fan. Thomas is our future 1c. Laine also doesn't fit the blues system.

11 Jun 2020 12:26:04
Hell ya Blues take this. And any so called wannabe Blues fans that says no is a troll lying through his teeth knowing full well that this would be an amazing trade for the Blues. Tarasenko looks like he is going to be regressing from here out. We need to replace him.

11 Jun 2020 12:27:04
Thomas is future 1C. Hahahahahahaha LMFAO. That HAS got to be the BIGGEST joke I will hear all year. All life maybe. Hahahahaha.

11 Jun 2020 13:03:28
If Thomas is The Blues future #1 Centre, The Blues are in serious trouble.

11 Jun 2020 13:38:58
Not close to enough quality coming from St. Louis for Laine on his own, let alone adding Appleton. Very easy no from Winnipeg.

11 Jun 2020 15:41:50
The Jets would never do this trade.

11 Jun 2020 20:10:11
That’s a good offer, though WPG could probably take out Appleton. Laine is an overpaid one trick pony whose one trick hasn’t been as impressive the last couple years as it was supposed to be. With his nonexistent 200 foot game, and halfhearted effort on the ice, his value isn’t as high as Jets fans would like which is why I don’t see him getting traded anytime soon.

13 Jun 2020 12:52:17
That's why he doesn't fit on blues.

09 Jun 2020 02:33:28
To Blues
Strome

To Chicago
Perunovich

Strome replaces Bozo and Chicago gets a guy Blues should probably keep. But doesn't cost us anything off the roster to get us a decent middle six center.

09 Jun 2020 06:59:57
Not enough for Strome.

09 Jun 2020 07:30:38
We have orielly, schenn and Thomas. Kyrou made strides kostin made progress. I really don't see the need of trading perunovich for meh.

10 Jun 2020 02:28:53
Hey Blues troll guy. Welcome back. I knew you were going to come crawling out again eventually.

Bozak is gone. We ain't keeping him. Hell be traded for scrps. Switch Schenn to the wing. Or Thomas. I like Strome's physical play. It suits Blues style. Perunovich is a nobody right now. He contributes nothing. Go for it all again. Blues get the three-peat. Strome is better than Thomas and Kyrou combined. Thomas couldn't lace Strome's shoelaces and Kyrou isn't worth a jock strap.

We all know you are the Blues troll that overvalued our players. Big time. Calling Strome meh says it all. You obviously don't know what you are talking about. You are a st Louis Blues propaganda poser.

10 Jun 2020 06:23:59
So you think a single college player is worth a top 6 C? I highly doubt Chicago does this trade.

10 Jun 2020 14:44:20
Fake stl fan

I get you want to legitimize yourself by attacking me. Good for you. Strome is an good player at this point he was on pace for 60ish points.

What you don't seem to grasp is t gis thing called the salary cap. You say perunovich is a nobody yet he had 40 points in 34 games in college. He is a puck moving Dman on out PhD side which is aging.

We do not need strike. We have schenn Thomas and orielly. So you are going to slot strome on 3c and give up a player from a weak area. Also your trade props are awful.

Oh yeah who is trolling bud. Seems to be you.

10 Jun 2020 15:09:39
Also take stl

5 people agreed with me to your 1 disagree. I know it hurts but let's keep this civil.

We have a lot of good players due contracts and could possibly lose Dunn. We have kyrou kostin improving and will be low cost elc players. We also have mikola and perunovich on the left side defense coming up. Gunner can't really compete any more jaybo is done due to heart, Dunn is due for a good raise and we signed scandella. So unless we move faulk we are going to have cap issues. Adding another center we don't need will not only hurt the cap but will hurt our depth at lhd

But hey easier to attack me then perform critical thinking.

04 Jun 2020 05:10:10
To St Louis
Eichel
Ristolainen

To Buffalo
Schenn
Kostin
Kyrou
Perunovich

Schenn has to be included so salaries balance. Buffalo finally gets rid of Risto and gets another crack at a rebuild centered around Dahlin and the guys brought in with and after him. Eichel goes to a contender along with the self admittedly soon to be traded Ristolainen.

04 Jun 2020 14:08:09
Take out Eichel and it’s closer. Risto=Schenn and the other 3 players hold minimal value to a top 10 player In The NHL.

05 Jun 2020 03:51:32
I wouldn't call Eichel a top 10 player on the NHL and Risto has no value compared to Schenn. You are very much in the wrong there.

26 May 2020 17:50:55
Pit:
Jaden Schwartz

Stl:
2021 2nd
2021 3rd
Kasper Bjorkvist

27 May 2020 01:48:34
Obvious cap dump. Given what guys like Pageau and others brought at the deadline this year, I have to wonder if this is enough return for an extremely consistent goal scorer and core part of the team the last half decade.

It's probably close enough, and if we decide we need to dump salary, this isn't a bad return. Still, without that 1st round it seems like it's a bit short.

26 May 2020 16:30:44
Honestly I think if the penguins can clear up some cap space they could make a somewhat big splash in Free agency.

To LA:
Bjugstad, Johnson, Murray
To Pitt:
Roy, Moore, 2nd round pick 2020 (Vegas)

Pittsburg signs Tyler Toffoli 6 years 6 mill per

Guentzle-Crosby-Toffoli
Zucker-Malking-Rust
Tanev-Mccann-Horqvist
Moore-Blueger-Simon
*Aston-Reese, Lafferty

Dumoulin-Letang
Petterson-Mario
Rikola-Roy
*FA signing

Jarry
DeSmith

I'm not sure how people value Bjugstad and Johnson, which is why I threw in Murray. Let me know your thoughts on that trade because I'm really not sure how to interpret their contracts.

I just felt LA could use some older players to help with their youth as Brown and Carter are declining very fast. Johnson also brings a physical element that I think they lost when they traded Clifford.

26 May 2020 19:06:48
No way from LA. Murray doesn’t have a lot of value and Bjustad/ Johnsson have negative value.

26 May 2020 19:11:14
So vb what would be more fair, like if Pittsburgh added the second round pick instead of LA? Like I just want to know what you guys would view as fair.

26 May 2020 23:52:24
Take out everything from LA add a conditional 7th from LA and then Pittsburgh adds to take on 2 dead weight contracts Murray really struggled this season and has little value.

27 May 2020 01:42:57
Yeah. Because Roy and Moore and a late 2nd have so much value that this deal is a fleecing is it VB? If you are getting hung up on small things like the pick that is thrown in, then you are being a wee bit nitty picky don't you think?

27 May 2020 05:28:09
A big free agent splash? toffoli?

27 May 2020 14:29:21
Habby I said a somewhat big splash.

27 May 2020 16:16:16
@Saint Louis fan I honestly didn’t know who Matt Roy was until 2 days ago but statistically he was on of the most efficient dman in the NHL this season. He holds a lot of value. I’d move Andreas Johnsson for him in a heartbeat. Probably Kasperi Kappanen too. What’s murray worth? A 2nd? Those other 2 contacts you’d have to pay to dump. Bjustad and Murray as a package is maybe worth a 7th to a team with a lot of space this season absolutely destroyed Murray’s value. Jack Johnson like Lucic, Neal, Seabrook etc is considered a toxic contract it’d take a 1st to dump him atleast.

27 May 2020 18:57:12
Vb I think your exagerating Johnsons’s contract a bit there, the differences between his contract and guys like Lucic, Erickson and Seabrook is about 3-4 million dollars. It’s not terrible it’s just not a contract most teams would sign him to. I’m not sure why Pittsburgh did it.

Another thing they could do is re-sign Sheary and trade Tanev who hasn’t really seemed to fit into their lineup.

28 May 2020 03:47:20
Did Pittsburgh sign bjugstad or was it Florida? I thought it was Florida.

24 May 2020 17:16:34
Blues buyout Bozak
Leafs sign him 2yrs 2mil
Trade Kerfoot for RHD,
Trade Johnsson for picks/prospects

25 May 2020 06:50:46
Why do blues buyout bozak? I understand they could use cap relief, but he's a really nice part of the team.

23 May 2020 15:35:35
Let's try this one out

To St. Louis 2021 1st + 2021 2nd + Kulak or Mete

To Montreal Dunn + Bozak + Sundqvist

This is for the sole purpose of St. Louis being able to resign Pietrangelo. While still improving the Habs.

This is the way I see it

Bozak + Sundqvist = 2nd + 3rd but to make room for Pietrangelo the blues only take a 2nd

Dunn = 1st + Kulak or Mete Blues Choice

Blues lineup

Schwartz-Schenn-Blais
Sanford-O'Reilly-Tarasenko
Steen-Thomas-Perron
MacEachern-Barbashev-Kyrou

Pietrangelo-Faulk
Kulak/Mete-Parayko
Scandella-Bortuzzo

Binnington
Allen

Canadiens Lineup

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Drouin-Suzuki-Domi
Lehkonen-Kotkaniemi-Sundqvist
Byron-Evans-Armia

Dunn-Weber
Romanov-Petry
Kulak/Mete-Fleury

Price
Demchenko

Both teams benefit

23 May 2020 18:51:20
As much as I like Dunn, I wouldn't give a 1st for him. and then on your Habs line up, I don't even see Bozak . as well, no way Armia is on 4th line.

23 May 2020 21:50:35
Bozak would be an extra or buyout as we would have more than enough tallented forwards besides the lines were just an example of what we could do really

23 May 2020 22:04:07
That's a huge downgrade from Dunn to Kulak/ Mete. All they need to do to clear the cap space is trade the forwards for picks to someone. Why would we need to trade Dunn? And why would we take less than market value for a trade? The stated reason that it clears up cap space to sign Petrol makes no sense.

24 May 2020 14:12:35
I never said to take less than fair value for Dunn, the Dunn portion of the trade was Dunn for a 1st + Kulak/Mete which is fair value. The reason to move Dunn is not to free up cap space for Pietrangelo but because even by moving the forwards you still cannot sign both Dunn and Pietrangelo. After trading the forwards the blues would have just about 8-10 mil if Pietrangelo gets 8 mil which in my opinion is a discount then Dunn can't be resigned unless you plan on trading another top 6 forward or Parayko. Also Mete and Kulak are not as much of a downgrade as you think they are both 2nd pairing Dmen and if you line up like I said the loss of Dunn wouldn't be as significant.

25 May 2020 14:26:34
Habs say no IMO. i don't think that we need to do any favours for other teams in cap issues for buying out players we trade for so they can sign Petro. Habs have cap space to take on a bad contract and it will cost a team nicely to do so. This would be bad asset management from the Habs.

26 May 2020 03:36:44
I guess the other option is to force the Blues hand and try trading a 1st + Kulak/Mete for Dunn's rights by threatening to sign him to an offersheet. However if the Blues say no then the Habs have to follow through with an offersheet in the 9+ range so that the Blues cannot match even with the 10% off season overage but that would also require Dunn to agree and it would hurt the Habs cap flexibility in the near future as well

23 May 2020 03:46:52
To St Louis
Dermott

To Toronto
Perunovich, HoSang

Leafs don't need Dermott. We do. Perunovich is a long term replacement. Should be ready right about same time Muzzin dies of old age.

23 May 2020 13:47:36
Underwhelming offer would rather resign Dermott and shift him to the right side beside Rielly or Muzzin.

23 May 2020 13:55:15
How does Toronto not need Dermott. He is probably one of there top 4 defensive dmen who has the ability to play both sides of the ice. No thank you.

23 May 2020 22:07:34
Dermott doesn't okay both sides of the ice. Please tell me how many games/ minutes he has played on his off side. And as far as I know Leafs have esse totally replaced Dermott with Sandin and Lehtonen, making Dermott very much available.

Perunovich won the Hoby Baker award. He might not be as good as Makar but he is a very good okayer.

19 May 2020 19:40:37
EDM:
Bozak 875K Retained
Allen half-price

STL:
Khaira
Lagesson
2021 4th
2021 3rd

Oilers then let Smith, Green, Ennis walk
trade Russell,Chiasson and Puljujarvi
buyout Neal

19 May 2020 19:58:50
Well, STL might need a bit more to do that.

19 May 2020 22:52:56
I can't see us doing this deal. It sets us back. Bozak is a decent center and having quality depth guys like him is what helped us win the cup last year. The picks are nice, but we want to compete now.

19 May 2020 16:27:04
PENS
Malkin

STL
O'Reilly
Dunn

19 May 2020 16:45:46
Why would Saint Louis do this. O’Rielly just won the con Smythe for the blues and Dunn is a beast in the top pairing.

19 May 2020 22:54:21
Blues need Dunn. Our right side is good. But left side is not nearly so good. Dunn is by far our best left shot defenceman. Without a replacement coming back, this deal is dead.

17 May 2020 03:57:37
WPG
Laine
Niku

STL
Schenn
Parayko

17 May 2020 04:30:08
You would need to start with an equally young, equally skilled 1/ 2C or top pairing RHD to generate any interest from Winnipeg if you want Laine.

17 May 2020 13:38:24
Parayko, Schenn for Laine and Niku?? How is that not enough for Laine??? That’s a fat no from Blues

17 May 2020 15:51:26
I think Schenn and Parayko could get Tavarez and Sandin instead. It would be a much more realistic trade offer as Tavarez is getting old and too expensive, Sandin is small and unproven, plus and the Leafs are desperate for a big, skilled d-man and a solid two way center that knows how to play in his own end.

17 May 2020 15:53:43
I think this illustrates how difficult it is to appease the jets fans on this site. Lol.

17 May 2020 16:12:16
Paryanko is “not a top pairing D“ are you kidding me? He has the most ice time played on the blues for the past four years he is the best shut down guy in the league and is certainly worth more then Laine. Love him as a player but Paryanko being a rare 6.6 fast physical dman with a cannon of a shot is worth more then anything the jets individually have to offer even Schifele although I think they’re close in value. As a leafs fan I would not Hesitate to give Marner + for him. Blues would not be adding to a Paryanko for Laine swap if this were offered blues take that and throw a parade.

17 May 2020 17:15:49
It's very convenient that everyone ignores the age difference. No one is going to trade an elite 22 year old winger for a 28 year old 2C heading for a horribly overpaid extension and a very good 27 year old defenseman that will want a huge raise in 2 years. Why would the Jets want to shorten their competitive years with a trade that makes them much older and more expensive?

No, Jet fan said anything at all about how good the Blues players were, it was just pointed out that they are too old to be considered in return for a 22 year old.

This just illustrates how incredibly difficult it is to have a realistic conversation on this site about what teams actually may do. Ignoring age and contract value is just outright lack of hockey knowledge and how the NHL actually works.

17 May 2020 17:48:10
Memarcus
The jets would be better off trying to win now while they can afford to add a couple players and their young guys and older guys primes are overlapping. The cost of upgrading your two largest needs is probably worth it. Schenn and paryako are not exactly old and fit with the win now mentality. The jets are still strong on the wings if they make this trade. They are just considerably stronger at centre and Defense.

17 May 2020 18:56:30
Firebergevin, that's not the strategy the Jets management is interested in or that well managed teams participate in. They won't throw away 10+ years of an elite young player who is still 3+ years away from his prime for two older players getting ready to exit their primes.

Then add in that Parayko will be 29 when his contract ends and will be looking for a huge raise going into his declining years. While Schenn will be starting a contract next year that overpays him from the ages of 29-36 where he will be in decline.

Good GM's and well managed teams don't make deals like that to shorten their competitive window. That's why I said you would need to start with a YOUNG, EQUALLY SKILLED 1/ 2C or YOUNG, EQUALLY SKILLED top pairing defenseman, or there is no incentive for the Jets to do it.

Both players offered miss out on the young qualifier.

17 May 2020 20:05:26
Lol at the fact that you believe the jets have a competitive window. Forwards are top end, Helly is a solid goalie and then their defence is absolutely putrid worse then the leafs. Poink and Morrisey are good number 3 guys playing on the top Pair the leafs are considered to have an awful defence but Rielly and Muzzin would both be the number 1 guy on the jets. Paryanko makes the jets much better.

17 May 2020 20:39:32
Yet somehow vbbb with the defensemen and injuries the Jets had this year, playing in a far tougher division than Toronto, Winnipeg's defense was vastly superior to Toronto's.

The Jets are competitive on a league wide basis, the Leafs aren't even competitive in their own easy division.

17 May 2020 21:21:09
If you notice its not Jet fans that make utterly foolish trade offers for Winnipeg players, so stop thinking dumb trade offers are doing the Jets a favor. This trade is better suited for the Leafs as they can trade a soft Reilly and tiny Marner for this Blues offer instead as the Leafs need to do something in order to open up cap space and shore up their pathetic defense.

17 May 2020 21:44:15
If the jets weren’t interested in mortgaging a part of the future to try and win now. They wouldn’t have given up first round picks in exchange for Paul statsny and Kevin Hayes. Rental players at the deadline, that they couldn’t resign. They get a chance to make a couple good runs with Schenn and parayko.

17 May 2020 21:59:09
What are you smoking you’re so delusional Tampa bay is the best team in the NHL on paper and off. they are a dynasty in the making and on top of that the Bruins are also a top 3 team. The leafs are also ahead of the jets in the standings so get your facts straight the leafs rank 12th in the NHL with a fired coach who held them back at the 1st of the year. The Jets rank 16th in the NHL. Not sure where you got your education from but it seems to be nonexistent.

18 May 2020 02:17:47
They were 3rd place behind 2 teams better then anyone in the jets division.

18 May 2020 03:02:38
Winnipeg's defense wasn't vastly superior to the Leafs. Jets goaltending was vastly superior to the Leafs though.

You can tell memarcusjoe doesn't know anything about hockey or he would know that the Jets goaltending was the only reason Winnipeg had a chance at making playoffs at all and he would know that Leafs goaltending was a big reason why they struggled this year. Leafs defensemen actually had better year individually than Jets defencemen did.

18 May 2020 18:41:59
How is Schenn not a 1/ 2 c, marcusjoe? And by the way, I would say the leafs d might even be better than the jets. It's just that the jets have the best goalie in the league, that d is not as much needed.

19 May 2020 02:45:56
1st of all, the atlantic division is the best in the nhl. 2nd, the jets had less injures than the leafs. 3rd, the jets might be in win now mode. They are a good team. If this trade was offered, jets do this hands down. Blues pass. If this was leaf comparable I would say the same. "Soft" Rielly and "tiny" Marner are better than any jets of their respective position.

 
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