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31 Jul 2020 14:11:11
Buffalo Trades
Ristolainen
Cozens (WHL)
2nd Round Pick 2021

Toronto Trades
Johnsson
Kerfoot
Kapanen
Dermott
1st Round Pick 2021

Thoughts ?

31 Jul 2020 16:28:07
Buffalo isn’t trading Cozens and I would rather have Dermott over Ristolainen any day.

31 Jul 2020 18:04:18
10 cups of s**t doesn’t equal a cup of gold.

31 Jul 2020 20:41:07
Ristolainen is gold? He's more like the 10 cups of sh1t. Or is Cozens the gold? Because he hasn't even played a single NHL. Or is the 1st the gold? Because that might just be the best piece in the entire deal.

31 Jul 2020 21:17:12
Cozens is the gold and at 1 point McDavid hadn’t played a game so what’s your point? Is Lafranier worthless because he hasn’t played a game? There isn’t a big gap between Byfield and Cozens imo.

01 Aug 2020 08:37:26
Awful.
Every pinball trade is the same bag of meh for names and good prospects. It’s always just spam.

03 Aug 2020 01:58:07
There is a massive difference between Byfield and Cozens. Byfield is putting up better numbers in a better league and he is two years younger. It's not even close. Cozens numbers aren't any better than guys like Steel were at that same age. How did he turn out?

25 Jul 2020 19:31:22
TOR:
Nylander
WPG:
Pionk, Perrault (cap dump)

Now before everyone jumps all over my ass with "Nylander is a winger not a Centre", Nylander did go through the leafs development system as a Centre. Keefe and Babcock both pointed out that he has strength there, and playing with Ehlers and Laine, he definitely would not disappoint.

Perrault is still a decent player I guess but he is obviously getting paid about 3 million more then he should be (comparing his contract to Pierre Engvall's contract extension as they are both good defensively and are 4th liners who can fill in on the 3rd line if need be).

Trading him and let's say trading Roslovic to rid themselves of Little (whose NMC turns into a modified NTC next season) would open up enough space to sign a guy like Krug or Pietrangelo. You may even be able to sign them both if you want, and even if you can't, signing let's say Krug and Brodie could definitely still bolster that blue line as well. I mean with the leafs out of the running for Brodie after this trade it would definitely improve your chances, especially if he wants to stay in Canada.

Okay memarcusjoe and islandjet me have it

25 Jul 2020 20:21:01
The Leafs aren't doing the Jets any favors trading a soft, way over paid winger in Nylander and expecting the Jets to give up Pionk who would be on the Leafs top pairing. Nylander would be behind Connor and Ehlers both of who know how to back check and play in their own zone which Maurice demands. The Leafs should keep their over paid winger.

25 Jul 2020 20:36:31
Hmm a 30 goal scorer who was on pace for a career high in points who makes just under 7 mill a year is overpaid? You may want to check your logic there buddy. Also I suggested Nylander as the Jets second line Centre, if you actually read the rest of the post you would have seen that. He would not be behind Ehlers and Connor, and in fact he is much better then Ehlers so even if he was on the wing he would be ahead of Ehlers. He had the one more point including 5 more goals this year in 3 less games.

25 Jul 2020 20:45:04
I don't care that he went through Toronto's development system as a center. It would only matter if the Jets scouting staff were convinced he could play center. If they were convinced he could then maybe it would be a possibility, but not for Pionk as that just makes the defense worse to improve the forwards and doesn't improve us as a team. It would have to be largely for futures which Toronto wouldn't do.

Plus the Jets wouldn't have any interest in Krug and can't afford Pietrangelo. Perreault's contract is only for one more year, so no real need to move him.

25 Jul 2020 20:48:02
Now I know islandjet just blurts out stuff without checking his facts first. He missed the entire reason the Jets do this trade. It gives them basically the best top 6 in the league with a new 2C, rids them of terrible contract, and although they do give up a good defenceman, they easily have the money to sign one and possibly even two top 4 defenceman in free agency to replace him, especially if they are able to move out Little.

25 Jul 2020 21:04:09
With Maurice as the coach Nylander would not play at center for the Jets as he is horrible in his own end. At least Ehlers who had 58 points and was a +14 this season knows how to back check and plays a 90 foot game.
Nylander who had 59 points and was a -2 because he's soft, lazy and is only seen in his own zone when he's picking the puck out of his own net. So don't try to say he's better then Ehlers, he's not. If Nylander is so great why is he always mentioned in trade posts by Leaf supporters? Answer that.

25 Jul 2020 22:28:25
I don't care that he went through Toronto's development system as a center. It would only matter if the Jets scouting staff were convinced he could play center. If they were convinced he could then maybe it would be a possibility, but not for Pionk as that just makes the defense worse to improve the forwards and doesn't improve us as a team. It would have to be largely for futures which Toronto wouldn't do.

Plus the Jets wouldn't have any interest in Krug and can't afford Pietrangelo. Perreault's contract is only for one more year, so no real need to move him.

25 Jul 2020 23:37:35
Sigh, whatever, it’s fair value that’s my point, and islandjet +/ - is not really a good stat to go off of, especially when the leafs have Ceci on their top pairing for most of the year.

Maybe it doesn’t make sense for the Jets, so they probably don’t do it but it’s fair value like it or not.

25 Jul 2020 23:44:01
Memarcusjoe, the jets have over 15 million in cap space next year, and that’s without trading Little. Saying they can’t afford Pietrangelo is a bit odd to me, unless you think he wants a 12+ million dollar deal.

26 Jul 2020 00:24:10
Nope. Not enough for Pionk and Perreault. got to be Matthews.

26 Jul 2020 02:53:55
Mostleaf, yes the Jets have 15 some mil cap space if Little comes back, but that is with only 14 guys signed, I believe. So, if we manage to sign Demelo, a backup goalie and all our RFA's we might have 5-7 mil for a possible 2C and maybe a few mil for a vet D-man.

No room or desire to give Krug or Pietrangelo big contracts.

26 Jul 2020 03:31:14
I can’t tell if St. Louis fan is being sarcastic or not, I think he is but I’m not sure lol.

26 Jul 2020 04:23:46
Nylander to me is not as much overpaid as I thought but we need to remember that his stats are inflated since he plays with stud players and a stud center. To me on a team in mtl he’s a marginal 60 point player which they can get paid more if they get 30 goals in there. If he gets a few 60 points season and maybe 2 70 point season plus 30 goals a year or so he’ll be worth his money or clost.

26 Jul 2020 06:44:32
Please tell me why Nylander would be playing under Ehlers? Ehlers has Laine on his Line and he still doesn’t produce. I would not do this trade from a leafs POV. If Nylander is moved I expect a dman like Dobson, Seinder, Weber, Burns, Dumba, Pesce, Pulock etc. I don’t think Poink is great I just think he fits in perfectly with the Jets system.

28 Jul 2020 16:56:46
Well vbb you're have to add if you except most if not all those defenseman.

29 Jul 2020 02:26:09
Matthews and Marner
Pionk and Perrault

O'Riellu and Parayko
Little and Roslovic

Sorry about your new cap problem Winnipeg. At least you got the bestest defenseman in the whole wide world on your team now. Parayanko Gon win that cup you see now too. He's the bestest.

24 Jul 2020 14:58:39
3 Team Trade Proposal.

Buffalo Trades
Eichel (New Jersey)
Jokiharju (Toronto)

New Jersey Trades
Hughes (Buffalo)
Zacha (Toronto)
Severson (Toronto)
7th Overall Pick 2020 (Buffalo)

Toronto Trades
Hyman (New Jersey)
Kerfoot (Buffalo)
Kapanen (New Jersey)
FGauthier (New Jersey)
Dermott (Buffalo)

Trade Breakdown

Buffalo
Eichel / Jokiharju
-JHughes / Kerfoot / Dermott /
7th Overall Pick 2020

New Jersey
JHughes / Zacha / Severson
7th Overall Pick 2020
-Eichel / Hyman / Kapanen /
FGauthier

Toronto
Hyman / Kerfoot / Kapanen /
FGauthier / Dermott
-Zacha /Severson / Jokiharju

This Proposal helps in Player return, cap and a needed trade splash for all 3 Teams.


Thoughts ?

24 Jul 2020 16:10:36
I know what everyone else is going to say, but I think this is a fair deal, but simply not something that would happen. Buffalo and New Jersey are giving up the most but also getting the most in return.

Toronto in the other hand gives up some really good forwards in Hyman and Kapanen who are easily top 6 on New Jersey, a 3C, and Dermott who can step into a top 4 role on a rebuilding Buffalo team almost right away.

I’m exchange we get a 3C who is still young, Severson a top 4D that could use some work in his own end, and Jokiharju and up an coming defenceman who could play a bottom pairing role for them.

I wish the leafs could get a little more giving up Hyman as he is very valuable to any team, but I know everyone else will disagree with me so I ain’t going to even argue.

24 Jul 2020 16:15:47
Buffalo get screwed and the Leafs give up expendable 3rd/ 4th liners and a bottom pairing d-man and gets back 3 good, inexpensive, young players.

24 Jul 2020 16:37:43
Dude islandjet

Dermott=Jokiharju
Hyman+Gauthier=Zacha and a pick but there is no pick
Kapanen+Kerfoot=Severson

How is that an underpayment from Toronto.

24 Jul 2020 16:39:51
Yeah Toronto absolutely makes out like bandits here no surprise. I’m a leafs fan and even I am getting annoyed.

24 Jul 2020 17:06:37
Typical Pinball trade. Toronto improves significantly for minimal cost. Props to vbbb for evaluating the deal without bias. That is hard for fans to do at times.

24 Jul 2020 17:25:50
vbbbvvbb and memarcusjoe The Leafs make out as bandits?
Eichel is the best player in this proposal and he goes to The Devil's
Hyman is on the Top Line, Kerfoot right now is better than Zacha as a 3rd Line Centre, Kapanen and Dermott aren't throw in players, only FGauthier you can truly say is a 4th Line Centre, so value you wise you are both out to lunch.
I know so many on here won't accept anything coming from Toronto, I guess if Marner is exchanged for Kapanen then it's fair right?

24 Jul 2020 18:09:53
You know this trade got moved to the leafs rumours site and most people there agree that its a fair trade for the leafs, some even believe its an overpayemnt. Although you guys may not agree, its how many fans feel. Its not that we overvalue our players, we just feel that simply because they play for Toronto that many people view them as useless and not worth much.

I think Buffalo gets screwed more here then anything else, and people just resort to saying the leafs make out like bandits when really all they get is a 3C and a couple defenceman who have trouble in their own end. Yes these players are young, but so are Dermott, Kapanen and you could even make an argument for Hyman as well as he is in his prime. Of course when you trade young, valuable players like that, you expect young guys in return, it's just how it works. It feels to me that many of you are just biased against the leafs because you feel threatened by them and how good they are going to be over the next decade, so any trade that makes them better you shoot down and say it would never happen.

The value that the leafs give up in this trade is basically the exact same, or even more then the value they get in return. The problem is that Eichel is probably worth a bit more, and Buffalo could probably just make a trade straight up with New Jersey or another team and get more in return. The problem isn't the assets that are being moved by Toronto in this trade, it's just that it's too complex to ever work and its much more likely Buffalo would rather keep Eichel or try to get more elsewhere. Also think about it this way, if you take out those two guys, the leafs are still giving up Hyman and Kapanen, their top 2 wingers after Nylander and Marner.

The only thing that I would change in this trade is take out Jokihirou and Dermott as I don't really see a point in getting Jokihirou if we are getting Severson and when we already have Liljegren who seems to be ready for that bottom pairing role, and even if he isn't we also have Lehtonen and Holl who can fill out the right side. I also see Buffalo keeping Jokihirou as if they trade Eichel they will immediately go into full rebuild mode and start trading everyone who doesn;t help their rebuld (except maybe Skinner because nobody wants that contract) .

24 Jul 2020 18:37:26
No Pinball you're just too invested in the Leafs to look at things honestly.

NJ does alright on the deal, but only because they end up with Eichel, by far the best player in the deal.

So, let's look are what Toronto is giving up and what they are getting.

They give up:

Hyman- decent player, benefits from playing with high-end linemates like a Pat Maroon. However, he is 28 and 1 year away from looking for a huge UFA deal based on what he has done in the past. So, that pulls his value down quite a bit to a re-building team.

Kerfoot-slightly expensive 3rd/ 4th liner that the Leafs need to move due to bad cap management. Maybe worth a high 2nd or low 3rd at best.

Kapanen-good player, but not good enough to get a top 4D without a decent add.

Dermott-okay 3rd pairing defenseman that will be looking for a decent pay raise this summer.

Gauthier-dime a dozen player that every team has a handful of. Worth pretty much nothing.

They take in:

Zacha-a slightly worse, but younger and with a better contract C than Kerfoot. Win Toronto, on cap savings.

Jokiharju-a younger, cheaper, higher upside, already better version of Dermott. Win Toronto, on better younger player and cap savings.

Severson-a good RD defenseman, with a great contract. Definitely not worth giving up for an okay 3rd liner and a one year rental for a re-building team. Win Toronto, they get a top 4RHD that they desperately need and cap savings as well.

So, Toronto clears out at least 2 players they will lose anyways due to cap mismanagement and replace them with better and cheaper versions.

We know how you do things Pinball, the only team that ever comes out ahead in your deals is Toronto.

24 Jul 2020 18:44:10
Most of the Leaf fans are blind homers that over hype and over value their players. They them wonder why Dubas has to overpay their players to stay in Toronto and keep Leaf fans happy.

24 Jul 2020 20:41:43
What if you replaced Hughes with Hischer.

24 Jul 2020 21:08:46
There's no reason for Buffalo even be in this deal mostleaf. Other than Pinball trying to get another good player to Toronto for lower quality/ bad contract/ older players, so it doesn't matter if it it's Hischier or Hughes going to Buffalo.

NJ and Buffalo as building/ re-building teams should not be dumping young players for older, more expensive players.

24 Jul 2020 22:26:56
Okay well how about Kapanen, Engvall and Dermott for Severson and Zacha. Age is no issue there and it’s probably the closest thing your going to get to a fair trade.

25 Jul 2020 00:37:21
If I we're NJ, I'd say no. Severson is a decent top 4RHD on an excellent contract.

Engvall is another player with basically zero value as an equal player could probably be picked up off waivers.

Kapanen is an okay 3rd liner, but nothing more. He averages 37 points a season, so isn't a top 6 player and is much easier to find than a top 4RHD.

Dermott is an alright bottom pairing guy, but will be looking for a significant raise and he along with Kapanen will probably cost more than Severson and won't provide better value.

Why would Jersey consider trading Severson to Toronto for a "fair trade" value, when you are coming to them and they're a better team if they just stay with what they have?

25 Jul 2020 02:48:15
I feel like kap and dermott are the home town heroes. Kap top line winger in Toronto, however no other team sees him as such. Dermott the amazing d-man that's a5-6 at the moment. Every team has them, but we don't try to trade them away. In Calgary it's backlund and brodie.

25 Jul 2020 12:00:57
Just spare parts from Toronto like usual. Kapanen only player with actual has value.

25 Jul 2020 17:27:22
I think your seriously undervaluing Kapanen and Dermott. I’m sure if it was Roslovic, Niku, and Appleton you would say that’s an overpayment from the Jets.

25 Jul 2020 17:34:01
Also Dermott probably gets a bridge deal at around 2 mill, so that is not a huge raise, and Engvall is already a proven NHL player who just struggled during the back half of the season because he had no good linemates because of all the leafs injuries. He especially had great chemistry with Mikheyev before he got hurt.

Again a clear case of people undervaluing leafs players and overvaluing other teams players.

25 Jul 2020 18:04:05
Leafs make out like bandits as usual.

28 Jul 2020 17:04:47
Islandjet calls leafs fans over valuing there players. That's funny. Jets fans do the same thing on this site.

24 Jul 2020 00:54:05
Tor: Vic Rask 50% retained 2020 5th
Minny: Kerfoot

Rask can bounce back on a much better team in the leafs playing 3C with Kapanen as one of his wingers

Leafs get cheaper 3C whose good defensively, better at face offs and can chip in offensively

24 Jul 2020 13:26:40
Rask sucks. Even at 2 mill he still isn’t worth Kerfoot.

25 Jul 2020 02:51:01
Rask is not worse than kerfoot, if he is it's still a wash trade. Not 50% retained plus a pick.

29 Jul 2020 02:33:50
Um. How is Rask not worse than Kerfoot? This I got to hear. Unless you are thinking Boston's goalie. VICTOR RASK is a sh1tty 4th line player in Minnesota that is basically the worst player on the team. He sucks. Everyone in the league is better than him. Half the AHL is better than him. How can you seriously claim Rask and Kerfoot is a wash?

24 Jul 2020 00:47:25
Ott:
NYI 1st
2nd: highest and lowest
White
Lajoie
TOR: Nylander/ 3rd

Relieves cap space for Toronto and adds plenty of potential players: Jarvis, Quinn, mysak, Foerster.

Ott: 3rd/ 4th zaitsev, Pinto, Lassi Thompson
Van: Ericsson/ tanev

OTT: Duclair, c. Brown, Formenton #5 pick
BUF: Eichel

OTT: L. Brown Anisimov
NJ: Subban

Ottawa signs Hall for 4 years at 8.5 after getting low ball offer from ARZ

Ottawa drafts Byfield

Hall-Eichel-Nylander
Tkatchuk-Norris-Batherson
Abramov-Byfield-Ryan
Paul-Chlapik-Ericksson


Chabot-Tanev
Subban-Brannstrom
Wolanin-Boro
Reilly

Nilsson
Hogberg

I'm a little biased so I apologize
Maybe Lehner signs with sens 2? I just wish my sens were good :' (.

24 Jul 2020 07:31:34
Heck no from Buffalo and Hall. You’ll have to drastically over pay someone to go to Ottawa.

24 Jul 2020 13:27:55
Why would the leafs trade Nylander for that garbage? If you trade an Elite player you expect and Elite player or two decent players on good contracts in return.

24 Jul 2020 14:56:35
Way too much for elite haha Nylander and not enough for Eichel.

24 Jul 2020 16:44:00
If that’s way to much for Nylander, Ehlers must be worth a 3rd tops.

25 Jul 2020 03:08:31
That only gets nylander if the leafs really want that pick. (Which they probably view nylander as worth more)

Also not close on eichel.

25 Jul 2020 18:06:14
Tanev is about to be UFA, if his rights is all it will take to dump Loui then I’m all for that lol . I wish.

29 Jul 2020 02:46:07
Why would Ottawa want to trade White after they just signed him to that sweet long term deal? They wanted him on the team long term. They got what they wanted didn't they?

02 Aug 2020 21:40:45
Nylander will not be moved till his contract up and Ottawa not dumb enough to overpay a rival that much

Vancouver trade is laughable, Ottawa would be nuts to do that crap

Eichel deal not half bad bud I'd sooner move batherson over Formenton

And Ottawa has no reason to go after a bum like Subban let alone give brown to get him, not a chance

You're NOT a true sens fan if you think these trades are good for sens lol Eichel one is good the rest suck and would hurt the team more than help it.

23 Jul 2020 03:20:00
Blues
Faulk

Leafs
Johnson
Dermitt.

23 Jul 2020 11:59:13
I’d give Nylander to the Blues to keep Faulk. He’s awful the leafs need a PKing defensive dman who plays 25 min a night and as soon as the puck leaves the defensive zone he skates off. Not the exact opposite. Faulk is garbage and overpayed he is garbage now and always has been same as Tony DeAngelo.

23 Jul 2020 12:00:08
How about Lucic to the blues for Kyrou and Dunn.

23 Jul 2020 16:00:32
Leafs can’t afford that and Faulk isn’t the defensively reliable guy we need.

24 Jul 2020 03:27:28
How bout no vb. Lucic is the definition of suck.

24 Jul 2020 16:44:43
Both players suck lol.

24 Jul 2020 16:58:47
i will have to say that faulk is way more than lucic.

22 Jul 2020 18:23:59
Tor:Demers 50% retained
Ari: Bracco Johnsson

22 Jul 2020 19:11:48
Wow! Jeremy Bracco? How could any team say no to that?

22 Jul 2020 19:37:29
Demers would simply play the same role that Justin Holl Is already playing. No point on wasting assets for him.

23 Jul 2020 01:51:38
Demers sucks and is UFA. He's not worth much.

23 Jul 2020 02:07:28
Bracco again. lol.

23 Jul 2020 03:15:34
Even if all Demers did was play the same roll that JT does, that's still better than what they have isn't it?

24 Jul 2020 04:25:22
Players like Babe Ruth, Wayne Gretzky, Micheal Jordan, Cristano Rinoldo, Jeramy Bracco and Lebron James don’t come along often you don’t move them.

22 Jul 2020 15:05:46
New Jersey Trades
Severson

Toronto Trades
Hyman
Duszak (AHL)

Thoughts ?

22 Jul 2020 15:31:25
Severson could get a better return imo.

22 Jul 2020 15:34:47
I don’t think New Jersey takes a pending UFA who doesn’t really help their rebuild all that much and who will likely leave after the season is over.

Also Duszak is the most underrated prospect in the leafs system imo. He had 18 points in 23 AHL games as a defenceman which basically means he was on pace to have about 30 in 40, which would be the same as Liljegren.

23 Jul 2020 01:53:05
Yeah. But isn't Liljegren a bust? Comparing him to a bus doesn't say much.

24 Jul 2020 02:20:59
Lol it is way too early to be calling Liljegren a bust. Look at how long it took Makar to enter the league. They were in the same draft class let me remind you. It normally takes defenceman longer to make the NHL. Yes you get the rare exceptions like Hieskanen, Hughes, and Dahlin, but those guys were already elite players before entering the NHL.

Liljegren is still one of the best defenceman in his draft class imo because he really is one of the only ones who has seen NHL action and who has had really good stats in the AHL, much better in fact then Cal Foote who was taken before him.

He has very similar stats to Brannstrom who was taken before him. Yes Brannstrom has seen more time in the NHL but that is because he plays for Ottawa and they have no defence other then Chabot. His stats in the NHL this season were not good.

Then you have Juuso Valimaki who was taken just before Liljegren and although he has seen more time on a very well rounded defence n the Calgary Flames, he missed the entire season, both in the AHL and NHL. Liljegren has had setbacks due to injuries, as he missed the world juniors a couple years ago because of them, but he has never missed a full season.

Then you have Vaakaneinen who was taken just after Liljegren who has yet to make any sort of an impact at the NHL level. His AHL stats are good, but Liljegren's are easily better.

So basically in summary, to call Liljegren a bust is to call all these guys (except Makar) a bust. Those are the facts. It takes longer for defenceman to devlope and I'm kind of tired of everyone calling Liljegren a bust when its clearly way too soon to tell and when other defenceman who are very similar to him are not considered to be busts at all.

Mic Drop.

22 Jul 2020 14:44:09
If leafs lose hope in Freddy

Tor: Georgiev
Nyr: Dermott 2021 3rd 2020 5th

22 Jul 2020 15:55:45
Do they trade Campbell or Freddy? Campbell is one of the better backups in the league.

22 Jul 2020 16:49:18
@vb
In what world is Campbell one of the best backups in the league? He had one good season almost 2 years ago and struggled as an NHL goalie this season.

22 Jul 2020 16:49:30
@vb my bad, misread your message.

22 Jul 2020 19:28:59
That’s a laughable offer for Georgiev.

22 Jul 2020 19:48:59
I’d put him as 12-8th backup he has potential to be a starter in the future.

22 Jul 2020 20:54:36
Campbell had was able to post a .928 sv % season with the LA Kings in 2018-19. His GAA was also only 2.30. That also wasn’t in a small sample size as well as he played 31 games that year.

Then this year before being traded to Toronto he was at .900 sv % and 2.85 GAA. However, you have to take into account that LA had traded Martinez and Muzzin so their defence took a hit on the left side. It didn’t help that Doughty had a down year as well. So of course his stats were lower, especially playing on a bottom 5 team in the league.

However when he came to Toronto he was able to put up a .915 sv % and 2.63 GAA in 6 games. Even I admit tho our defence is shaky at times, especially in our own end. But despite this Campbell still put up average backup numbers.

He is a good goalie and it is possible he becomes the leafs starter if they can’t re-sign Andersen. However, I could also see him working a tandem with another goalie. Georgiev would be a great pick but I doubt the Rangers give him up. I think it’s much more likely they trade the King and retain.

23 Jul 2020 01:57:08
The King has a NMC. He ain't going to waive it to go somewhere else or he would already be gone.

Georgiev is good but not THAT good. This would be by far the best offer they get.

23 Jul 2020 02:51:38
@Themostleaf- You really think a 39 year old career ranger/ fan favourite would waive to go to any other team? He loves the spot light in New York his life is there and he has no reason to leave unless a top contender wants him and even then I doubt he waives.

22 Jul 2020 00:30:11
Habs fans would u do this?

TOR:
Engvall, Dermott, Malgin
MTL:
Armia, 3rd

22 Jul 2020 14:35:26
Nope, I wouldnt.

22 Jul 2020 14:47:59
Really? Your getting get a young LHD who is ready to play top 4 minutes for you and an average 3rd line forward in Engvall.

I think your overestimating Armia’s value.

22 Jul 2020 15:13:57
I jus like Armia., on a team of soft players, he is one of the only guys who have grit. maybe it's a good deal, but I'm not sold on Dermott, I don't see him any better than Mete, I also don't know enough about Engvall.

23 Jul 2020 01:55:18
Armia spends more time in the hospital and rehab than he does on the ice.

23 Jul 2020 02:32:16
Dermott will be better than mete mark my word and i really like malgin on fla roster but don't know engvall. I like armia but we need lhd badly.

24 Jul 2020 04:23:42
What makes you say Dermott will be better than Mete? .

19 Jul 2020 15:30:19
Tor: Parayko
Stl: Kapanen Dermott 2021 2and

Leafs then dump johnson for whatever

19 Jul 2020 16:42:14
Ok. Yeah sure. That works for you Leaf fans real good. Congratulations. I'm surprised this trade didn't happen already.

19 Jul 2020 16:58:26
This is where he got the idea from

19 Jul 2020 18:13:50
Why do most of the Leaf post try to trade combinations of Dermott, Bracco, Kerfoot, Mikheyev, Johnsson, Lilly, Holl, Engvall, Brooks, Malgin, Woll, Gauthier and Kapanen for top end players when they are just over hyped and over paid spare parts? Teams don't want or need these players and won't trade a top 6 forwards or top 3 d-men for them. You wonder why people laugh at these one sided Leaf trade posts.

20 Jul 2020 00:00:23
Paryanko would be the last player the blues trade.

20 Jul 2020 00:38:57
Sorry. I didn't realize the post was unfinished. The trade from Leafs says 2nd and. So depending on what the and is it might be worth it. Sandin or Robertson. Something like that.

20 Jul 2020 11:07:34
Yeah no thanks parayko will be blue for life great dman.

20 Jul 2020 14:01:58
How many accounts are you at now Colt?

20 Jul 2020 18:12:49
turkey, this is my fourh account and i am not using the other ones. Just changed my name.

22 Jul 2020 01:20:40
To all edm and leaf fans. parayko is untouchable. thanks


Ps. Stop with the bad trade offers for him. Its z pipe dream.

23 Jul 2020 02:01:17
Why not just change your name to BluesTroll? We all know it's you anyway.

23 Jul 2020 02:01:49
It's guys like you that bring disgrace to our team. You are not a fan but a petty insolent child.

14 Jul 2020 18:30:28
NSH:
Jarnkrok, 3rd 2020
TOR:
Kerfoot, Engvall, Hollowell

Leafs get a more rounded 3C and clear a bit of cap.

Nashville seems to need a few more depth players up front and they probably need to get a little younger sooner rather than later with guys like Turris and Bonino on their roster.
Kerfoot and Engvall provide both of these things. They are also good defensively which would allow guys like to play a bigger offensive role.
Hollowell is simply there to make the value even, and honestly Nashville needs more young defence, and although Hollowell doesn't have a very high ceiling, he could play a great bottom pairing role for them in the future.

16 Jul 2020 00:08:13
Jarnrok plays wing not C.

16 Jul 2020 11:33:13
I thought he could play both.

14 Jul 2020 11:52:08
Toronto ML:

Andreas Johnsson

2nd 2020

2nd 2021


Carolina Hurricanes:

Brett Pesce

Patrik Puistola.

14 Jul 2020 16:37:26
Carolina wouldn’t take that, it would have to be Kapanen.

14 Jul 2020 18:13:53
johnson has very little value think more like Liljgren and kappy.

12 Jul 2020 23:06:43
Tor: Myers
Phil: Dermott

13 Jul 2020 13:30:01
Philly removes dubas' number from contacts.

13 Jul 2020 14:05:59
Leafs have to add but I like the idea.

13 Jul 2020 14:42:31
Dermott is only a top 4 d-man in Toronto because of their horrible defense and the over-hype he receives from many Leaf supporters and the biased Toronto based media.

13 Jul 2020 16:08:46
Islandjet you’re so wrong he is a solid dman and the most underrated player on the leafs. The leafs left side is probably the most underrated in the nhl possibly top 5 Rielly is elite, Muzzin is a top 60 dman ( top pairing ), Dermott is a safe number 4, Sandin is a future stud he’ll develop into a better Josh Morrisey and they signed the KHL dman of the year. The leafs right side is the undisputed worst in the NHL tho.

With that being said Myers will be a top pairing guy soon he’ll be similar to Muzzin. Huge no from the Flyers.

13 Jul 2020 16:11:12
Islandjet Dermott was playing top 4 minutes because Muzzin and Reilly were both injured for an extended time lol. Otherwise he is a bottom pairing guy who has the potential to be top 4.

12 Jul 2020 16:51:29
Tor: Wilde
NYI: Dermott Rasanen rights Bracco

Allows NYI to trade Leddy for cap as Dermott will be cheaper than him
Lou loves Rasanen

Lads get potential 1RHD

12 Jul 2020 17:18:50
Hard pass from Toronto, why would we give up Dermott, a top 6 defenceman, for an unproven player who had 2 points in 20 AHL games this season? Bracco straight up or it’s a no go.

12 Jul 2020 19:52:55
Bracco has zero value so that’s definitely a no go from Minnesota.

12 Jul 2020 20:00:35
Veryius it’s NYI, not MIN.

12 Jul 2020 21:21:56
Yeah, saw Wilde and thought of Wild lmao, either way it’s a no.

11 Jul 2020 22:44:52
Leafs offersheet Cernak 4yrs 4mil

12 Jul 2020 01:10:07
1. Cernak will probably take a bridge deal with the cap staying flat

2. The leafs already have Holl who fills the role Cernak would, I don’t really se a point in going for him.

12 Jul 2020 06:41:06
Lol, of course it's the Leafs of all teams that go in and take Cernak away from TB because of cap struggle. Maybe, just maybe, care about your own cap situation first, we'll be fine, we've proven it multiple times. You haven't yet.

10 Jul 2020 23:37:20
Tor: Cal Foote
Tampa: Liljegren Bracco

Foote is NHL ready for next year while Liljegren is not hence why the leafs make this trade

11 Jul 2020 00:06:57
Liljgren had 30 points in 40 AHL games while Foote had 28 in 63. Their defensive stats were very similar. They are both 21. They were drafted 4 spots away from each other. I really don’t understand this trade and I don’t think either team would do it. Honestly imo Liljegren is the more underrated prospect.

11 Jul 2020 01:25:12
Tampa says no unless they have to move Johnson, Gourde and Killhorn while thinking Bracco could be the 2nd line RW.

11 Jul 2020 06:48:08
2nd line RW in the AHL maybe, if he can’t crack TOR he’s not cracking TB.

11 Jul 2020 14:20:30
Just really hate how Toronto fans want to always move multiple spare parts but don't hate this one n.

11 Jul 2020 17:37:33
I don't believe that TB would want a potential holdout player in Bracco as they had that experience with Drouin, who was a much better player. Foote will not be a player TB would trade for Lilly.

11 Jul 2020 21:46:52
Foote>Lilly at the moment, and Bracco has minimal value in a trade, so he doesn't cover any difference. So, no from Tampa.

Bracco would likely only have value as a piece traded for a veteran one year rental at next years TDL. He's more than likely to just be a depth guy for whatever team he plays for.

08 Jul 2020 17:17:46
To SJ:
Dermott, Johnsson, Malgin
To TOR:
Labanc, 3rd 2021

To PIT:
Kapanen, Liljgren, Kerfoot, 2nd 2021
To TOR:
Marino, McCann

SJ gets the young defenceman they need on the left side and a winger to replace at least some of the scoring output from Labanc.

Pittsburgh gets a top 6 RW who could probably put up 60 points playing with Crosby, a young defenceman who is ready to step into a bottom pairing role, and a forward who could replace McCann at 3C or who they could move to the wing.

Guentzle-Crosby-Kapanen
Zucker-Malkin-Rust

That's an insane top 6, and rivals any other in the league.

Toronto gets a young RHD, a new 3C, and a Winger to replace the scoring output of Kapanen.

Toronto is giving the most up in these trades, a top 6 forward on any other team (except maybe Winnipeg and Washington), two middle six forwards, and two young defenceman who have lots of time to grow into top 4 defenceman.

In exchange they simply get two middle 6 forwards and a young top 4D.

09 Jul 2020 00:07:04
Pitt says NO NO NO. marino is projected to be the # 1 D man in pitt in a few years. McCann equals kap. just nothing there.

09 Jul 2020 04:00:47
McCann does not equal Kap.

09 Jul 2020 07:01:05
Agree with jerkbait. Plus hornqvist can still fill atop 6 role. They need marino more than what's coming back.

07 Jul 2020 23:59:53
Tor: murphy
Chi: Johnsson Bracco 2021 4th

08 Jul 2020 05:16:47
Murphy is decent, I would be fine with the leafs trading this package for him, but I’m not sure if Chicago would accept as they already traded Gustaffson and Keith and Seabrook just aren’t the players they used to be. They don’t really have much depth on defence is my point.

07 Jul 2020 15:12:31
As long as Arizona's 1st Round Pick still goes to NJ with the lottery protect in the Taylor Hall Trade, I have a 3way Trade that will help all 3 Teams in all ways.
My Trade Proposal is.

Buffalo Trades
Eichel (NJ)
Jokiharju (Tor)

New Jersey Trades
JHughes (Buf)
Zacha (Tor)
Severson (Tor)
(Arz's 2020 1st Round Pick) (Buf)

Toronto Trades
Hyman (NJ)
Kerfoot (Buf)
Kapanen (NJ)
FGauthier (NJ)
Dermott (Buf)


Trade Breakdown.

Eichel / Jokiharju
-JHughes / Kerfoot / Dermott /
(Arz's 1st Round Pick 2020)

JHughes / Zacha / Severson /
(Arz's 1st Round Pick 2020)
-Eichel / Hyman / Kapanen / FGauthier

Hyman / Kerfoot / Kapanen / FGauthier / Dermott
-Zacha / Severson / Jokiharju


Thoughts ?

07 Jul 2020 16:36:46
This trade makes more sense if you take out Toronto. And jokiharju.
If Hughes does well in the play in round.

07 Jul 2020 17:07:44
Monkeyful to start with to take out Jokiharju and Toronto it's not enough for Eichel of just Hughes and a mid round 1st Round Pick, plus Hughes isn't playing in the playoffs because NJ isn't in the playoffs.
How come anything Toronto on this site is looked at in a bad way, either The Leafs Players have no value or let's just take them out completely like you posted.

07 Jul 2020 17:15:07
Take Kappanen, Gauthier and Hyman and add to Buffalo and they still decline. Eichel will not be moved.

 
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