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27 Jul 2024 04:16:20
Montreal trades with Columbus
Mtl sends :
Anderson,Harris, mesar,
Columbus sends:
Laine , Kent Johnson

If Winnipeg wants to go big for playoffs near deadline
Montreal trades with Winnipeg
Montreal sends :
Dvorak, Savard , sean farrel
Jets sends:
Rutger McGroarty
Jets only add to current roster without subtracting
And Montreal roster in 2025 would look like this
1st line
Demidov Suzuki caufield
2nd line (monsters , all 6foot4 or bigger)
Slavkosky dach laine
3rdline
McGroarty Johnson Newhook
4th line
Gallagher evans roy

27 Jul 2024 04:26:53
None of those pieces are worth moving McGroarty for.

25 Jul 2024 23:07:11
Conversation Trade
WPG
Perfetti
McGroarty
BUF
Cozens

I know there is no way Buffalo does this trade. But it would be good for WPG.

26 Jul 2024 01:29:55
It would be nice, but there's no reason for Buffalo to do that.

26 Jul 2024 18:46:50
If samuelsson is relegated to the bottom pair which is probably unlikely maybe something around Samuelsson and these 2 would make sense from a Winnipeg POV. He is a LHD but played on the right side for most of his career. If you don’t know him he’s very, very similar to Adam Larsson and would look good on the top pair with Morrisey. Passed for over 200 hits and BLKs last year and his advanced statistics put him in top 10 percentile in his own zone and top 5 percentile on the PK.

Ostlund (Projects as a 2C 16th overall in 2022 coming off a solid season in SHL) and Samuelson for Perfetti and McGority.

26 Jul 2024 20:58:13
Sorry Vbbb, there's nothing there that gets Chevy to consider it.

Perfetti isn't available.

Winnipeg has no need for another LHD. They need top 4 RHD, no other need on defense.

Best off waiting until the TDL.

27 Jul 2024 00:35:16
I have to agree with memarcusjoe on this.
This trade I just threw out there for conversation piece. I honestly do not think Perfetti will be traded. He will sign a deal. Only question is for how much and how long.
Ehlers will resign soon as well.
Also I don’t see McGroarty gets traded before TDL.
Bad thing is Jets options at 2C are
Lambert
Perfetti
Vilardi.
The defense is strong.
Morrissey Demelo
Samberg Pionk
Stanley Miller/ Heinola
There are needs. But really can’t see Chevy doing anything as of now.

27 Jul 2024 03:55:47
As i mentioned for his whole Career in Buffalo Samuelsson has played beside Dahlin and a little bit beside Power. Strictly on the right side. While he is left handed similar to TJ Brodie on Toronto he plays strictly on the right side (not sure where he played in his amateur career he could’ve played on the left side but so far in the NHL he has only played on right side. )

Being a physical shut down dman he is a natural partner for Morrisey imo. I believe if he becomes available Chevy would be all over him with the attention of pairing him with Morrisey.

21 Jul 2024 16:06:29
Read an article about possible trade scenarios of McGoarty.
One was
WPG
McGoarty
PHI
Farabee
Laughton.

This trade in my opinion doesn't really do much for WPG. With Farabee then it really forces an Ehlers trade. Laughton is not a great 2C. But I guess on a defensive team would work.

Second was
WPG
McGoarty
NYI
Romanov
Holmstrom.

This trade gives top 4D but left handed.
But he can be put on the Right side. He is better than Pionk. Holmstrom IDK anything about him except that he is a winger.

Third was
WPG
McGoarty
CLB
Kent Johnson

Johnson has offensive side and can play all three forward positions. Then possibly trade for a top 4D.


Other teams were BOS, MINN, CAR,
Personally I like to see guy go play for Tortilla! Give him a wake up call!

21 Jul 2024 17:20:42
Lol these are awful for every team not named Winnipeg.

21 Jul 2024 18:48:40
Yeah those are pretty bad scenarios done by beat writers that don't know anything about Winnipeg's needs.

CLB likely isn't trading Johnson.

The other two are for players that do nothing for Winnipeg.

It's not very often that a team targets players they don't need in trades.

21 Jul 2024 21:56:56
That’s what I thought after reading. These ppl writing about WPG McGoarty trade scenarios have not paid attention to WPG needs. 2C & top4 potential Right handed D.
I also Read about WPG and CAL including Kadri and prospects. Which makes absolutely no sense. Yes it gives WPG a 2C. But aged!
Another one was a trade involving Marner. Which I still think is a joke.
Personally I don’t see McGoarty trades to either at trade deadline or after the next season.
And Ehlers has rumours of staying in WPG.

21 Jul 2024 23:32:30
Totally agree. The earliest McGroarty moves now is the TDL unless someone blows Chevy away before then. Beat writers don't put a lot of thought into stuff. They just go, "well this team wants to trade this guy and that team wants to trade that guy, let's trade 'em for each other! " No thought of cap space or team needs at all.

Ehlers most likely stays a Jet. Scheifele and Helly didn't sign until late in the off season last year either.

13 Jul 2024 22:53:20
Columbus trades
Charlie Elick
3rd round pick

Winnipeg trades
Rutger McGroarty

14 Jul 2024 00:18:37
Unlikely, but maybe if the Jets really like Elick. The Jets are looking for an NHL player or NHL ready prospect. They won't want to be going backwards developmental wise.

Most likely you'll need to check back at the TDL at the earliest. Chevy has set his price and is under no pressure to rush to make a trade.

13 Jul 2024 16:52:04
Just read an article about a trade between PHI and WPG.
WPG
McGoarty
PHI
Konecny
Laughton
2025-2RD

Great trade for WPG for now. Providing they could resign Konecny.
But both player are later 20s.
But Konecny and Scheifele and think would look really good together.
But honestly I can't see this trade happening.

13 Jul 2024 19:47:17
Yeah, I definitely can't see that happening. The players are too old, have too little term left and Konecny isn't extending in Winnipeg.

It's not anything Winnipeg would be looking for in exchange for McGroarty, imo.

13 Jul 2024 22:38:53
Is this guy, not even a top 10 pick, worth that?

14 Jul 2024 05:05:22
Personally I think this is way too much for McGoarty.
So far all I’ve read so far is that really only few teams interested in McGoarty because of his demand of having a NHL roster spot. Montreal, Carolina, and I guess Philadelphia.

14 Jul 2024 17:11:38
Id like to think Chevy would take this deal. Makes the Jets better and deeper going into next season. Only have so many good years left in Helly so the time for being all in for a cup is now for the Jets.

14 Jul 2024 21:40:34
I would think Flyers add Sanheim and a top prospect, because Rutger is a superstar.

15 Jul 2024 01:53:36
superstar? seems more attitude. maybe should be in Toronto.

16 Jul 2024 11:47:38
I wasn't serious.

21 Jul 2024 06:06:49
Whoever wrote this article is a pinball Winnipeg fan. that's like a trade for a allstar, not a fairly upside prospect.

09 Jul 2024 01:56:50
Wpg Trade Ehlers ans Mcgroarty

Mtl Trade Dvorak 1 st Pick protect top 3 and Mailloux or Hutson.

09 Jul 2024 02:24:17
The Jets aren't taking back a cap dump in an Ehlers or McGroarty trade.

True North wouldn't be interested in Mailloux due to his character issues.

I can't see Montreal trading Hutson.

10 Jul 2024 14:42:47
Too much from MTL. they don't need Ehlers in their rebuild. Ehlers should be somewhere contending now at 28.

11 Jul 2024 18:56:18
Winnipeg definitely takes back a cap dump if this is offered.

26 Jul 2024 12:25:57
There's a pretty significant difference in value between Hutson and Mailloux. I'm sure the jets would be interested in a 1 for 1 deal (Mcgroarty for Hutson) but I doubt MTL would agree

07 Jul 2024 15:59:43
Possibly off the wall trade proposal.
WPG
Ehlers
CAL
Sharangovich
2025-3Rd.

Sharangovich may not bring the offence that Ehlers can. But he did have a good season and he brings more grit than Ehlers and better defensively. Also he can play all three forward positions. May need work on face offs tho.
Many would see this as more of a lateral move. But I feel it brings more options.

07 Jul 2024 17:21:28
I think the Flames will stick with Sharongovic. I beleive they also just re-signed him to a new long term deal.

07 Jul 2024 19:23:47
Calgary just extended Sharangovich, they're not trading him.

08 Jul 2024 14:12:00
I agree that it doesn't look like they will trade him given the extension, but you never know. remember Dubois.

08 Jul 2024 18:25:24
He quietly had a solid season. What’s sharangovichs deal i admittedly don’t know a lot about him who is he as a player? Something like a Zacha?

09 Jul 2024 01:08:09
I had no idea that Sharangovich just signed an extension. Never checked. My bad.

07 Jul 2024 00:48:21
Just read an article about WPG Ehlers.
That 2 main teams showing interest.
Carolina and NYI.
Just talked about trade with NYI
WPG
Ehlers
NYI
Pageau
Prospect
Draft pick.

If this is the case I would go after
Dufour
Or
Eiserman
Possibly Holmstrom.

Carolina trade would be tough.
WPG
Ehlers
CAR
Necas.
I don't think would work. Be nice but it's a no.

WPG would love Jarvis. But Carolina is not trading him.
Maybe Ehlers and McGoarty for Jarvis and Drury. But IDK.

07 Jul 2024 02:37:29
Pageau obviously doesn't worth since he's a cap dump and wouldn't waive for Winnipeg anyways.

They're not trading Eiserman and Dufour and Holmstrom are throw in, low value pieces that don't give Winnipeg anything they need.

Carolina isn't trading Jarvis and Necas is a lateral move basically for a player with only 2 years to UFA that will be more expensive than Ehlers next year.

07 Jul 2024 03:28:45
Personally I didn’t like the Pageau trade. Exactly what you said. Salary dump case scenario. Pageau is good, mostly defensive, which Jets already have Lowry and Namestnikov.
The Jets needs are a 2C and more help on defence. Preferably top 4D and RD.

07 Jul 2024 04:10:19
Agree. The only piece from the Islanders that makes sense is Pulock and I don't see that happening.

08 Jul 2024 16:01:26
gotta love these guys that presume a player won't waive a no trade. what is the basis of your argument? is it because you don't like Winnipeg?

06 Jul 2024 20:21:59
WPG
Ehlers
McGoarty
Pionk
SEA
Wright
Kartye
Borgen

06 Jul 2024 20:56:31
Other than Wright, who Seattle isn't trading the other two pieces do nothing for Winnipeg or fill any needs.

06 Jul 2024 21:19:07
Hey memarcusjoe why haven’t you ever made any trade proposals on here? All you do is criticize everyone else’s proposals. Grant it that a lot of the times what you say makes sense. You are an intelligent guy, But it’s easy to criticize. But why won’t YOU make a trade proposal? Scared of being criticized yourself?
You have answers to a lot of trade proposals but no example proposals.
Like to know what you would do if you were a NHL GM.
This isn’t to criticize you or be negative in any way. Like I said earlier. I think you are pretty intelligent guy. Just would like to know what you are thinking or would do in certain situations. Like McGoarty or/ & Ehlers trade? .
As far as above trade.
Brogen gives size on Right side.
Kartye young and gritty
I agree with you on Wright but if so it would take a lot to get him.

06 Jul 2024 21:39:23
McGroarty > Wright
Pionk > Borgen
Ehlers >> Kartye.

06 Jul 2024 22:14:54
I've done them in the past, but I don't really find them all that much fun.

I prefer discussing trade ideas that are out there or might actually happen.

The only player rumor wise that makes sense for Ehlers is Pulock. However, he's likely not available and wouldn't waive for Winnipeg. So until something changes there's not much to discuss.

McGroarty I think won't be moved anytime soon.

06 Jul 2024 22:31:42
Lol. Nice trade Ebsolutely!
I like it.

07 Jul 2024 16:03:28
No way McGority is better then Wright.

07 Jul 2024 17:23:53
Not better but more value. I should’ve looked at ages because I didn’t realize there the same age. Wright has done a lot at 20 so I’m wrong I’d rather Wright.

06 Jul 2024 14:43:03
WPG
McGoarty
TOR
Robertson

WPG
Ehlers
BOS
Poitras
Frederic

06 Jul 2024 14:55:24
Winnipeg isn't selling that low on McGroarty.

Boston isn't trading Poitras.

06 Jul 2024 16:20:12
Don’t you think it’s hard to properly grade someone (McGoarty) who has never played in the NHL?
What is his value?

06 Jul 2024 18:10:40
He's a top prospect that is in high demand, so he must be pretty good.

Are you contending that all of the 24 draft picks have little value because they haven't played in the NHL yet? I think NHL GM's disagree with you.

06 Jul 2024 19:04:13
That is NOT what I was implying. What I was saying is that it’s really hard to put proper value on players that never played in the NHL. That doesn’t mean they have no to little value! Think about Patrik Stefan went first overall or Yakupov or Daigle. Highly valued prospects. But didn’t amount to what was expected or thought they would.
I do think McGoarty’s game and style will translate well in the NHL. But there is no guarantee.
He is a high rated prospect. So trading him would be hard, cause value. How does he value to other teams. What are they going to give up? What are the Jets expecting to get?
I throw trades out in here for fun. That’s it.

06 Jul 2024 19:51:10
Okay. Well you asked, so I wasn't sure. He'd be evaluated just like any other prospect so it seemed like a superfluous comment to rationalize your offers.

The Jets will either look for a similar aged and skilled prospect or a young NHL ready player that fills a need.

We'll probably need to wait until at least the TDL to find out.

06 Jul 2024 20:43:18
One way to gauge a players value if you’re not overly familiar with them is Capfriendly.

McGroarty isn’t on there yet since he’s not under contract, but Robertson is, and he’s rated as a 79 / 3rd liner.

Given that McGroarty is highly sought after, you could reasonably assume you wouldn’t get him with Robertson.

06 Jul 2024 20:59:57
Thanks Chickenfoot.

07 Jul 2024 05:20:23
Have a good one Muzza?.

06 Jul 2024 14:31:38
Carolina Trades
Necas

Winnipeg Trades
Ehlers


Makes sense to me for both teams.


Thoughts ?

06 Jul 2024 14:57:19
I don't think Chevy will use his best trade chip for two years of a player that is a lateral move and will be more expensive than Ehlers next year.

06 Jul 2024 15:49:44
I think WPG would have to add. But I also think Necas next contract would be higher than Ehlers. So as a financial standpoint, I think WPG would decline.
Even tho it would be nice addition for WPG.

05 Jul 2024 23:52:36
Carolina Hurricanes :
- Martin Necas

Winnipeg Jets :
- Nikolaj Ehlers

Sounds like the Canes are aggressively pursuing Ehlers.

06 Jul 2024 00:41:18
Winnipeg adds, necas is 5 years young, and also plays center. Ehlers is LW only, which is an actual need for carolina.

06 Jul 2024 01:04:24
I can't see Winnipeg just making a lateral move when they trade Ehlers. It's only 2 years of control for Necas and his next contract will certainly be more than Ehlers contract next year.

It just doesn't make sense for Winnipeg.

03 Jul 2024 23:59:16
Montreal trades with jets 2 scenarios
1:
Montreal sends
Harris, Barron, beck , Dvorak , Anderson
To Winnipeg for
Ehlers and McGroarty
2:
Mtl sends Harris or Barron, Anderson and Calgary/Florida 1st round (top 10 protected)
To Winnipeg for McGroarty

04 Jul 2024 03:09:50
You're not going to be able to dump Anderson and Dvorak without paying to do so and it won't be to Winnipeg.

Puck Pedia's dump calculator puts dumping Anderson at the 13 OA pick and Dvorak at 35 OA. So, keep adding you don't have enough to dump either.

04 Jul 2024 13:03:42
not sure i am sold on a guy who is already wanting out of a place he got drafted (Lindros relation? ) . plus the second trade is an overpay.

04 Jul 2024 16:41:05
The Jets have enough bottom pairing d-men and 4/ 5th line forwards of their own. The Jets would want less poor offered quantity of players and would want one top level player for Ehlers and McG.

04 Jul 2024 17:35:43
MTL declines as well.

06 Jul 2024 19:43:58
This trade in particular looks more like a MTL salary dump. With Dvorak and Anderson included.
Maybe do a Barron & Beck for McGoarty.
But I don’t See MTL doing any of this.
McGoarty’s style would look good in Habs top six tho.

01 Jul 2024 23:16:35
WPG
McGoarty
BUF
Krebs
2025-1Rd

WPG needs a second line. I think Krebs gives them more offensive option than Lowry. Lambert I don't think is ready for full time NHL duties yet.

02 Jul 2024 13:50:01
It would depend on what the Jets scouts thought of Krebs, he doesn't look too promising right now, so is imagine that would be a no.

02 Jul 2024 16:46:18
This is not a trade the Jets should do.

01 Jul 2024 17:06:19
WPG
McGoarty
Heinola
MTL
Guhle
Barron
Gives Jets young D (LD & RD) who could help now.

Or

WPG
McGoarty
Perfetti
CLB
Marchenko
Chinakhov
Jets give up a lot but also receive 2 good players. But would have to find a 2C to play between them.
Jets giving up a little more youth but CLB players give Jets little older and ready to play playoff hockey.
WPG may have to add here.
Perfetti becomes a casualty to Princess McGoarty demands.

01 Jul 2024 18:39:12
Montreal isn't trading Guhle and the Jets don't need LHD

Barron does nothing for Winnipeg.

Neither Columbus player starts a conversation for either Jet. Perfetti isn't available and average bottom sixers with arb rights aren't desirable.

If Chevy hasn't taken a lowball offer for McGroarty yet, he has no incentive to do it now.

01 Jul 2024 20:22:32
Guhle isn't going anywhere.

02 Jul 2024 14:42:40
I imagine Chevy is looking to make a move for a RHD with some term and McGroaty is gonna be a piece involved in that trade if it comes to fruition.

02 Jul 2024 16:55:01
I will be surprised if the Jets make any big trades now. The Jets did nothing at the draft and free agents signings. I expect they will be the same soft team that hopes Helly will bail them out every game.
They will continue to be a draft, develop and don't promote team. No wonder the Jets fans are staying away.

27 Jun 2024 06:12:41
I read wrong, it said 1st or 2nd and 3rd. So Winnipeg: mcgroaty, chicago:18th and 6th Or Winnipeg: mcgroaty, chicago: chicago 2024 2nd, chicago 2024 3rd.

27 Jun 2024 13:15:05
I doubt those are enticing enough to get Chevy to pull the trigger.

27 Jun 2024 15:01:31
I feel like he would have to be a huge problem within the organization to be dealt for a package like that. Pretty sure he's heading back to school anyways so trading him doesn't need to happen anytime soon.

27 Jun 2024 04:08:03
Winnipeg: mcgroaty. Chicago: 18th, earliest 2025 2nd. Read today that the price for mcgroaty is a 1st+ 2nd or 3rd. So should be plenty. Chicago gives a pick 4 spots later the next draft , plus a probably 34-40 next year. Big chance on a prospect but could put them a year ahead on a top prospect.

27 Jun 2024 04:23:35
That might work. But the Jets would more than likely lean to an an offer with the picks being in 24, if the 1st so late.

27 Jun 2024 05:27:54
Memarcus, what about mcgroaty for nazar and a late 2nd? They were taken 13th and 14th but so far Winnipeg guy been better but an injury hobbled nazar so u don't know. Nazar us signed though.

27 Jun 2024 13:16:41
It would depend on what the Jets scouts think about Nazar and his injuries. It's probably not interesting, but.

26 Jun 2024 20:22:27
Looking at the Cutter Gauthier trade, a deal like this seems plausible.

WPG : McGroarty

MTL : Barron, 2024 1st (WPG)

MTL gets a young promising prospect, which fits their timeline, assuming he accepts to sign in MTL.

WPG get their 1st round pick back from the Monahan trade, get a young right-handed Dman with upside currently stuck in a logjam of young dmen in MTL, who's also former late first round-pick and reunite him with his brother.

Comparing this deal with the Gauthier trade :

Gauthier > McGroarty
Drysdale > Barron
2025 2nd < 2024 1st

26 Jun 2024 21:30:29
I think Winnipeg holds out for something better. A defenseman that couldn't crack Montreal's lineup consistently and needs to go through waivers this year, doesn't add much value to a late 1st.

26 Jun 2024 21:34:53
Gauthier >= McGroarty*

(Considering on the stacked team Gauthier is)

28 Jun 2024 15:31:24
- MTL adds.

- Barron & Harris are definitely the two D most likely to be traded.

- Barron would get to play with his brother, and perhaps the brother dynamic helps them both be happy playing in the NHL's most challenging climate.

- Barron is an intriguing prospect. He scored a career-high 7 goals in only 48 games last year. A 22 year-old RD with 30 points in 94 games is an attractive hockey prospect to hockey people, whether in MTL or elsewhere.

25 Jun 2024 14:15:55
Toronto:
Rutger McGroarty

Winnipeg:
Nick Robertson

25 Jun 2024 15:50:41
What a poor trade for the Jets.

25 Jun 2024 16:26:11
Winnipeg doesn't touch that.

25 Jun 2024 19:42:16
LES HABITANTS: have you ever posted a Habs trade? All I ever see are sweetheart deals for the leafs.

Why pretend to be a fan of one fanbase and only post homer deals for another? Be yourself man rather than pretending to be something else.

24 Jun 2024 05:15:54
Chicago: 18th, 4th. Winnipeg; Rutgers or chicago: chicago 2nd, islanders 2nd. rangers: kappo. Either these close? Opinions, in words please.

24 Jun 2024 11:45:17
Underpay from Chicago for McGroarty, and overpay from Chicago for Kakko.

I kind of like the Kakko trade. The Rangers would probably take two 2nds for Kakko at this point, but one of the picks might need to be a 2025 draft pick.

24 Jun 2024 13:14:00
A late first and a late round pick isn't going to interest Winnipeg. They'll get a more suitable offer.

24 Jun 2024 21:11:18
Memarcus, now i've read Winnipeg will want a top 6 ready player with contract for Rutger so draft picks wouldn't work. See if any bites but assume its not a great offer for him cause hes thinking of staying in school and be a ufa so dont know why Winnipeg would be expecting too much.

24 Jun 2024 21:55:35
Memarcus, I believe it's a mid round first and a mid round pick. 16 is exactly middle so do the math. Beginning of 4th is almost exactly half. Meaning middle, some shorten it to mid.

25 Jun 2024 01:19:14
If its the 18th and a 3rd or maybe a 2nd, i'd be ok with it. McGroarty is a really good prospect, but still a prospect. I wouldn't go more than that, but we will see.

25 Jun 2024 01:26:17
It's an interesting story to follow. I imagine the return will be similar to what the Flyers got for Gauthier.

My opinion on college players though is that it should be like the NBA and NFL where they have to declare for the draft. Once they do that they are no longer eligible to return. It would eliminate these players who expect ice time without earning it. And if they aren't ready for the NHL level then they go to the CHL team who owns their draft rights or to the AHL.

 
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