Winnipeg Jets Rumours

09 Nov 2023 19:52:13
I know people will disagree with me but the jets should trade for Elias Lindholm

Jets
Schmidt
gustafsson
3rd-2025

Calgary
Lindhol
5th-2024

The jets get rid of some cap and assuming calgary will be sellers, it works out for both teams.

The Jets bring in some more forward depth in Lindholm while Vilardi is injured and they can put lindholm on the top line until Vilardi returns.

getting rid of schmidt can give the jets a lot of salary cap and it opens a spot for either heinola or chishom.

09 Nov 2023 20:57:02
Lindholm would be a great spot for him if he would agree to extend. I would think every team could come up with a much better offer even for just a rental though.

09 Nov 2023 21:02:49
Calgary would get a far better offer for lindholm.

09 Nov 2023 21:15:11
Camp dump, an ahl forward and a third for a top forward. Hard no from Calgary.

10 Nov 2023 04:09:01
Lindholm would fetch a way better offer than that, this really ain’t close. Also, if they trade Lindholm then they’re obviously intending on rebuilding so those pieces wouldn’t be enticing to them.

15 Oct 2023 14:38:39
To Winnipeg Jets :
RW - Conor Garland ( 4.95 @ 3 UFA )

To Vancouver Canucks :
RD - Dylan DeMelo ( 3.00 @ 1 UFA )
RW - Mason Appleton ( 2.16 @ 2 UFA )



Kyle Connor - Mark Scheifele - Gabriel Vilardi
Nikolaj Ehlers - Cole Perfetti - Nino Niederreiter
Alex Iafallo - Adam Lowry - Conor Garland
Morgan Barron - Rasmus Kupari - Vladislav Namestnikov

Josh Morrissey - Neal Pionk
Logan Stanley - Nate Schmidt
Brendan Dillon - Dylan Samberg


Andrei Kuzmenko - Elias Pettersson - Brock Boeser
Pius Suter - J.T. Miller - Anthony Beauvillier
Dakota Joshua - Teddy Blueger - Mason Appleton
Nils Hoglander - Sam Lafferty - Phil Di Giuseppe

Quinn Hughes - Filip Hronek
Carson Soucy - Tyler Myers
Ian Cole - Dylan DeMelo


(Lines based off DailyFaceoff & Capfriendly)

15 Oct 2023 15:11:51
No chance Winnipeg does that. They need DeMelo and don't need Garland or especially his contract.

Vancouver has been trying to move Garland since the TDL and no one wants him, so the insiders regard him as a free asset.

He'd need retention and an equal salary going back, so unlikely it is Winnipeg.

16 Oct 2023 21:31:35
From what I've heard vancouver wants a defenseman and less salary coming back.

15 Oct 2023 06:20:13
Winnipeg Jets trade Mason Appleton and Logan Stanley to Vancouver Canucks for Connor Garland (25% retained salary)

15 Oct 2023 14:39:57
I like it but I’d add Demelo instead of Stanley with no retention.

15 Oct 2023 15:12:49
Unlikely Winnipeg is interested with only 25% retention.

12 Oct 2023 23:38:34
Here we go again since jets resign helle, how about oilers trade for Sarros
Edmonton get Sarros
Nashville gets Campbell and or pick and prospect . Thoughts?

13 Oct 2023 01:10:38
It costs more than a pick and prospect to dump Campbell and return nothing.

13 Oct 2023 02:39:36
If the oilers tank and win the 1st overall pick or if you classify McDavid as a prospect maybe that’d justify Nashville taking one of the worst contract in the NHL and moving a top 5 goalie.

13 Oct 2023 13:42:42
- Campbell is a disastrous signing and has exceptionally negative trade value.

- it would take significant assets to trade him, making a demotion to the minors likely, and a buyout inevitable. The poor guy is simply too fragile to play goal in the NHL.

14 Oct 2023 02:02:25
Campbell i think you have to keep and hope he has a good year. He's worth nothing now but if he plays well, next season he's a lot more tradable.

10 Sep 2023 07:47:17
To Winnipeg Jets :
G - Linus Ullmark ( 5.00 @ 2 UFA )
RD - Brandon Carlo ( 4.10 @ 4 UFA )
1st Round Pick in 2026 - BOS

To Boston Bruins :
G - Connor Hellebuyck ( 6.16 @ 1 UFA )
C - Mark Scheifele ( 6.12 @ 1 UFA )


another mock trade, this would obviously be a trade that would keep the Jets competitive. Ullmark has been rumoured to be on the trading block and their biggest weakness is C. Assuming the Bruins would have no problem resigning these them, idk though. What do y’all think?


Kyle Connor - Cole Perfetti - Nikolaj Ehlers
Alex Iafallo - Gabriel Vilardi - Nino Niederreiter
Rasmus Kupari - Vladislav Namestnikov - Mason Appleton
Morgan Barron - Adam Lowry - David Gustafsson

Josh Morrissey - Neal Pionk
Nate Schmidt - Brandon Carlo
Brendan Dillon - Logan Stanley

Linus Ullmark
Laurent Brossoit


Brad Marchand - Mark Scheifele - David Pastrnak
James Van Riemsdyk - Pavel Zacha - Jake Debrusk
Morgan Geekie - Charlie Coyle - Fabian Lysell
Milan Lucic - Patrick Brown - Trent Frederic

Hampus Lindholm - Charlie McAvoy
Matt Grzelcyk - Kevin Shattenkirk
Derek Forbort - Jakub Zboril

Connor Hellebuyck
Jeremy Swayman

10 Sep 2023 11:27:25
- perhap the B’s replace Carlo with a different positional player than Carlo, who would also play behind DeMelo in the D pairings.

- To get Scheifele and Helly i think BOS would need to include more assets as well.

- these teams seem well suited as trade partners to come up with a fit along these lines.

10 Sep 2023 15:34:35
It is a fair trade but the Jets waiting until 2026 for a 1st is a long uncertain time so it should be unprotected.

10 Sep 2023 17:10:56
Not enough to get both Jets. You could get one with that offer, but with the 1st being 3 drafts away, definitely not both.

Plus Ullmark says no.

09 Sep 2023 23:58:44
To Carolina Hurricanes:
LW - Nikolaj Ehlers

To Winnipeg Jets:
RW - Seth Jarvis
1st Round Pick in 2024 - CAR
RW - Cruz Lucius


To Boston Bruins:
C - Mark Scheifele

To Winnipeg Jets:
RW - Fabian Lysell
D - Matt Grzelcyk
1st Round Pick in 2026 - BOS



Kyle Connor - Cole Perfetti - Seth Jarvis
Alex Iaffalo - Gabriel Vilardi - Nino Niederreiter
Rasmus Kupari - Vladislav Namestnikov - Fabian Lysell
Morgan Barron - Adam Lowry - Mason Appleton

Josh Morrissey - Neal Pionk
Matt Grzelcyk - Nate Schmidt
Brendan Dillon - Logan Stanley / Dylan Demelo

Connor Hellebuyck
Laurent Brossoit



Just a little on the fly retool, Jets get younger and cheaper which should be the direction they take after the inevitable Helle trade.

10 Sep 2023 11:28:42
This looks good to me?.

10 Sep 2023 15:54:30
I don't like the either trade as the Jets have enough small, bottom 6 players.

10 Sep 2023 17:12:49
Carolina isn't moving Jarvis and Grzelyck as an LHD provides no value to Winnipeg.

10 Sep 2023 17:18:53
Plus a 1st 3 drafts in the future does little to help the Jets now and wouldn't carry much value.

09 Sep 2023 04:19:47
To Winnipeg Jets :
LW/RW - Andrew Mangiapane ( 5.80 @ 2 UFA )
2nd Round Pick in 2024 - CGY
C - Topi Ronni ( unsigned )

To Calgary Flames :
LW/RW - Nikolaj Ehlers ( 6.00 @ 2 UFA )



LW/RW - Nikolaj Ehlers, 27yrs old
( 6.00 @ 2 UFA )
Last 2 Seasons
62GP | 28G 27A | 55Pts | +18 +/- (21-22)
45GP | 12G 26A | 38Pts | -2 +/- (22-23)

LW/RW - Andrew Mangiapane, 27yrs old
( 5.80 @ 2 UFA )
Last 2 Seasons
82GP | 35G 20A | 55Pts | +20 +/- (21-22)
82GP | 17G 26A | 43Pts | +12 +/- (22-23)
*played through an injury all season, is 100% healthy for next season*


Ehlers’ analytics are very very good aswell, I just didn’t wanna have to make a huge post. Ronni is a solid prospect and a former 2nd rounder in 22. The reasoning for grabbing Ehlers is for Huberdeau’s wing, Jets grab some futures and a good replacement at a slightly lower cap hit.


Not too sure who says no, I just really wanted to post something different. Thoughts?

09 Sep 2023 17:11:22
It isn't that this is an interesting offer however I really don't believe that the Jets are going to trade Ehlers unless its at the trade deadline after a lousy season.
Change the 2nd to a first and replace Ronni with a better prospect or the Jets might look to trade him elsewhere.

09 Sep 2023 18:37:23
I can't see the Jets doing that. Mangiapane's contract is one that should be avoided.

09 Sep 2023 19:47:33
Ehlers is injury prone, has not played a full season in 6 years. Remove Ronni and make it a third pick.

09 Sep 2023 23:55:29
Winnipeg declines this. Mangiapane and a 1st is interesting tho if Jets decide to sell.

26 Aug 2023 22:17:21
WPG
Scheifele
Heinola
NYR
Chytil
Schneider.

NYR owner is not very patient and with NYR signing Wheeler. Why not trade for his buddy Scheifele. The reason for Schneider being included is that it's either him or a 1st RD pick.
Chytil may not be as good Offensively as Scheifele but matches size and is better defensively.
Hellebuyck is a huge question mark.

Also think the Winnipeg Jets should sign Nolan Patrick
Max Comtois
They both need new starts.
Patrick closer to home. And well Max Comtois would bring size and toughness back to the team.
Winnipeg Jets were a good team last year but played way too soft. They need toughness, grit, sandpaper type players.
As of right now the Jets fate will be a repeat of last year or a little worse.

27 Aug 2023 15:49:33
I sadly agree with MuzzaO1 view on how the Jets played last few seasons.
I think this trade is fair for both teams and I like the free agent signing of Patrick.
Scheifele needs a change and Heinola needs a fair chance which he would get in NY.

27 Aug 2023 16:10:08
Rangers didn't wanna give up Schneider for Eichel, I doubt they trade him for Scheifele.

27 Aug 2023 17:22:45
NotACasual the biggest difference between Scheifele and Eichel is that Eichel may never of played again from his neck injury and Scheifele scored 43 goals last season and is $4 mil per year cheaper. That is why the win now Rangers might do this trade.

27 Aug 2023 17:52:56
As nice as the trade looks for Winnipeg, I think there is almost no chance the Rangers trade Schneider.

17 Aug 2023 16:56:48
Leafs and Jets flip stars

Leafs

Nylander

Jets

Scheifele

Both around the same cap hit and both expiring contracts

17 Aug 2023 17:01:56
Jets would have to add.

17 Aug 2023 17:39:00
Seems like a fair exchange of value, though is WPG more likely to want a C in return?

Curious what IslandJet thinks.

17 Aug 2023 18:05:54
No reason for the Jets to downgrade from a 1C to a complimentary winger for a year. Winnipeg just keeps the better player at the much more valuable position.

17 Aug 2023 19:04:47
Nylander would want way more $ then he is worth and he wouldn't resign in Wpg so the Jets would have to say no.

18 Aug 2023 11:07:42
Makes no sense from either team. Leafs downgrade and get a player who’d switch to wing anyway and jets have no use for Nylander a UFA.

16 Aug 2023 01:21:11
WPG
Scheifele
Heinola
NYR
Chytil
Schneider

WPG
Hellebuyck
Stanley
DET
Husso
Rasmussen
Walman.

Trading Hellebuyck would be hard. Especially with his demands. I'm thinking there is only a small # of teams willing to trade for him.
* Husso is a good goalie and Rasmussen I believe can be a really good two way player (Center). Walman a decent defenseman would be a great return for franchise goalie.
Detroit made improvements this summer. Hellebuyck (Michigan Born) would turn them into a playoff team. We all know anything can happen in the playoffs.

16 Aug 2023 04:45:49
I don't see any chance that the Rangers trade Schneider.

Detroit isn't a Hellebuyck away from being a playoff team and Helle wants to win, so he probably wouldn't extend there. Walman is an LHD which is the absolute last thing the Jets need and he's 27. He would hold no value to Winnipeg. Rasmussen is meh, so unlikely he would be considered a major piece by the Jets.

16 Aug 2023 18:28:34
The Jets would win both trades and would only be considered at the trade deadline.
If both NYR and Detroit were in the need to add players that would help them in the playoffs this trade would interest them.

08 Aug 2023 16:05:45
To Winnipeg: Primeau, Petry, Dach

To Montreal: Hellebuyck, Stanley

Primeau starts as a backup to Brossoit and is groomed to be the future #1

Reasoning:

Petry adds genuine depth and support to Morrisey.

Dach is what's needed to acquire Helly

Which then allows for Scheifele to be traded, before we loose him for nothing

08 Aug 2023 16:59:46
- Helly is the wrong age for where MTL is in their rebuild.

- Helly is an excellent goalie, and a contender will want him badly.

08 Aug 2023 17:46:04
Dach is a good start but the Habs can keep Petry and Primeau.
Also the Jets shouldn't trade Stanley but Schmidt could be added.
This trade would have to include another top player off Montreal roster to happen and not some of their older, overpaid, underperforming players.

08 Aug 2023 17:51:23
Habs shouldn't consider moving Dach. Like Chickenfoot said, Helly is great and all, but not what the Habs need at this point.
Buffalo would be a good home for Hellybuck.

08 Aug 2023 20:24:35
The trade makes no sense for either team. Hellebuyck wants to win, so he'd have no interest in signing long term in Montreal.

From Winnipeg's side, Petry isn't waiving for Winnipeg and is too old to consider, whilePrimeau has zero value. AHL tweeter goalies are easy to find.

08 Aug 2023 20:36:13
I agree with JET & SOSA. Well said boys.

09 Aug 2023 00:28:35
MEMARCUS: I can’t disagree with you either. All fair points.

09 Aug 2023 23:17:19
LMAO a UFA goalie even a prime Patrick Roy isn’t worth Dach AND “another young top end player “. He’s worth a 1st and a lottery ticket prospect. Goalies don’t hold trade value even elite ones.

25 Jul 2023 23:15:44
To Boston Bruins :
C - Mark Scheifele ( 6.12 @ 1 UFA )

To Winnipeg Jets :
1st Round Pick in 2026 - BOS
RW - Fabian Lysell ( 894k @ 3 RFA )


Scheifele isn’t resigning and Boston needs a C, pretty straightforward.


Marchand - Scheifele - Pastrnak
Van Riemsdyk - Zacha - Debrusk
Lucic - Coyle - Geekie
Greer - Brown - Frederic


Connor - Vilardi - Ehlers
Iafallo - Perfetti - Niederreiter
Kupari - Namestnikov - Lysell
Barron - Lowry - Appleton

26 Jul 2023 00:07:59
That might be enough, but Boston would most likely need to wait until the TDL unless they're offering something that helps Winnipeg now.

26 Jul 2023 00:28:28
Although Boston may need to kick in more since the Jets have to wait 3 drafts for the 1st.

26 Jul 2023 00:41:48
BOS can’t wait or they’ll miss the playoffs.

26 Jul 2023 14:47:39
The Jets would want a trade that isn't about distant futures and C prospects for Scheifele.
I'm not sure that the Bruins would trade a player that the Jets would want for Scheifele.

26 Jul 2023 17:39:27
Perhaps swap Lysell with Debrusk - and move the draft pick to 2025

I think that would get it done.

26 Jul 2023 20:15:50
Nope Flyer, a one year downgrade of Scheifele to DeBrusk does nothing for the Jets. That's less than Scheifele gets as a pure rental at the TDL.

Scheifele won't be traded for a rental.

27 Jul 2023 00:50:19
To be honest, I really don't see the Bruins trading first rounders for a while. The end is in sight, so they will be looking to stockpile picks, not get rid of them.

25 Jul 2023 18:11:46
Now that Bergeron has now officially announced his retirement, perhaps now the Bruins focus on obtaining a centre who is able to play with Marchand, Pasta and JVR - - also known as Scheifele.


To Boston: Scheifele, 3 round pick

To Winnipeg: Zacha, Grzelcyk

25 Jul 2023 23:57:12
No chance Winnipeg needs to add a 3rd for a 3C and an LHD they don't need. Boston would need to come up with a much better offer to interest Winnipeg. Besides Boston isn't trading Zacha right after signing him and he wouldn't waive for Winnipeg if they wanted to.

26 Jul 2023 14:53:19
The Bruins would be interested in Scheifele but wouldn't want to give the Jets a good roster player to make it happen.

18 Jul 2023 15:45:54
Devils Trade
Mercer
Vanacek
1st Round Pick 2024
3rd Round Pick 2025

Jets Trade
Hellebuyck

Thoughts ?

18 Jul 2023 16:22:22
I think WPG would do that in a heartbeat, though I doubt NJ would.

PINBALL: you're much more generous with your trade proposals when your not selecting assets from your beloved leafs.

18 Jul 2023 16:40:16
The Jets certainly take that, but there is almost no chance Mercer would be available.

18 Jul 2023 17:05:14
If Mercer is off the table how about swapping Mercer for Holtz?
Revised Proposal.

Devils Trade
Vanacek
Holtz (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2024
3rd Round Pick 2025

Jets Trade
Hellebuyck


Thoughts?

18 Jul 2023 19:41:21
I believe that the Jets would prefer 1 good player over a bunch of pieces and picks.
It will be hard for the Jets to get fair value for Helly unless 2 teams from the same conference are out to try and get him and start a bidding war.
However I think that the Jets will have to settle for a trade proposal like this one.

18 Jul 2023 21:06:37
I would imagine the Holtz deal works as well Pinball.

19 Jul 2023 15:18:28
I think you could get the 1st or Holtz but not both.

23 Jul 2023 06:42:32
Well word on the street is they're trying to sign hellybuck long term because there's not enough out there but he's probable at the least starting the year in Winnipeg.

15 Jul 2023 18:10:45
So what I'm seeing in a few articles
WPG
Scheifele
NYR
Chytil
2024-2RD

Not a bad trade!

But what if Winnipeg and TB pull off a deal.

WPG
Scheifele
Stanley
TB
Cirelli
Cernak

Or

WPG
Scheifele
TB
Cirelli

The salaries will offset each other. This year anyway. Scheifele better offensively, Cirelli better defensively and younger. But I think Cirelli could handle playing top line with right line mates.

Also seeing
WPG
Hellebuyck
BUF
Luukonen
Krebs.

Also a decent trade.

15 Jul 2023 19:49:41
The Ranger one isn't too bad, but can the Rangers afford the cap?

There's no reason for Tampa to do those two.

Luukkonen doesn't have much if any value and Krebs on his own isn't enough, so Buffalo needs to add.

16 Jul 2023 03:52:53
Rangers trade only maybe. Other 2 are weird.

17 Jul 2023 13:44:05
- Ranger trade is fair.

- TB just signed Cirelli, so trading him would be the ultimate bad-faith move. There are good reasons that doesn't happen outside of a "sign and trade" situation, which is also rare.

- BUF trade doesn't offer Helly's proper value.

17 Jul 2023 18:46:13
Man Ceranak is extremely valuable. Probably worth 3 1sts. Definitely worth way more then Cirelli. If Pesce was signed long term at same cap hit they’d be equal.

14 Jul 2023 19:53:09
WPG
Hellebuyck
Heinola
EDM
Bouchard
Campbell

Jets get Bouchard to play with Morrissey on top pairing. Campbell to play 1A and 1B with Brossoit.
Edm gets an All Star goalie that they've been lacking and Heinola, who given a chance might be a really good.
Bouchard is totally an upgrade on Heinola but
Hellebuyck is totally upgrade over Campbell.
Oilers have a better chance winning a cup than Winnipeg. As for Hellebuyck's interest.
Oilers possibility having trouble signing Bouchard for what he thinks he is worth.
This trade probably makes Oilers weaker on defence but Hellebuyck in the last few years have faced the most shots in the league. So nothing new to him.

14 Jul 2023 21:39:15
Campbell will cost a lot more than that to dump, especially if you want to return Hellebuyck.

14 Jul 2023 23:06:24
Oil wouldn’t trade a RHD with the potential Bouchard has for a UFA goalie. Also Bouchard doesn’t have arbitration rights so he signs for what the Oil offer or he sits out for a year.

15 Jul 2023 00:27:50
Bouchard is a decent start to get Helly from the Jets, but Campbell is a no go. Also adding Heinola would increase what the Oilers would have to give the Jets in return.

15 Jul 2023 19:49:13
You think Hellebuyck gets a 23 year old, 40 point offensive RHD with 60+ point potential that is likely to be reached next season? And it’s only a start?

16 Jul 2023 04:02:47
Hellybuck return is gonna be disappointing for jets fans. Oilers not trading Bouchard unless its a lot just like jets and Hellybuck and definitely would rather have Bouchard regardless. Hellybuck is old now, 3 years ago it would be anything for him. Still good but on the wrong side of 30.

17 Jul 2023 13:46:32
- EBS & JET nailed it.

- Campbell is a basket case and will require a serious asset to move. He just isn't strong enough or capable enough to be an NHL starter. (That deal made NO sense for EDM then or now. )

25 Jul 2023 14:45:29
Chickenfoot, if you read this, I'm gonna predict Campbell is gonna be in the vezina race end of next year. He's seems comfortable now.

11 Jul 2023 04:21:36
Bookmark this and look back on this I'll be calling out the people when Helly is traded.

Right now the market for Helly is tiny ( New Jersey and Buffalo )

I'm betting he heads to Jersey as there is mutual interest there and Buffalo is very frugal with their assets.

Goalies tend to have little value and the most a goalie has gotten were A. Schnider a young cost controlled goalie coming off a phenomenal playoff run with Vancouver B. Ryan Miller ( comparable to Helly imo )

People are going to really be surprised on the little value he brings in. I'd say 75% chance he's moved if not the Jets will ride out his contract because they are still a playoff team in there division and a playoff team trading there élite starting goalie mid season is a disservice to season ticket holders and the players on the team.

With that being said here is my vague estimate on what he returns.

New Jersey: Vanacek and a 1st 2024

Winnipeg: Hellybuck ( 50% retained )- yes If they move Helly that signals a rebuild so they will retain on him to maximize value very likely

Or

New Jersey: Vanacek, B level prospect and a 2nd 2024

Winnipeg: Hellybuck ( 50% retained )

I'm very interested to see his return. Vanacek is pretty solid and honestly in the long run maybe he's a better option then whatever Helly gets payed ( Loulongo, Price and Bob come to mind )

Dark horse team: LA kings don't think they do it with Copley and Talbot set but it's possible

11 Jul 2023 13:35:49
It's hard to say what the return will be if they trade Hellebuyck. There aren't any real comparables in recent history as elite goalies rarely get traded and Miller and Schneider just aren't the same level. However, your trade looks reasonable, you just may be a decent prospect light on it, especially with retention.

Because as you say, if goalies don't have much value, you're basically just oferring a late first for Hellebuyck, which likely doesn't do it. Chevy is a grinder and has shown he will get good returns on players when everyone else is saying he will get nothing.

11 Jul 2023 16:02:47
Although I agree that goalies don't get back a good return in trades.
Helly wanting $9+ mil a year doesn't make finding a trading partner easy for the Jets.
I believe that the Jets could do better than Vanacek and a 1st if he is traded before the season starts.
If he is moved at the trade deadline the Jets will most likely have to settle for an A prospect and a #1 draft pick but nothing better than a middle 6 forward or a 3rd pairing d-man.
Neither of those type of players would help the Jets.
Trades are hard to get a fair return in this new NHL.

11 Jul 2023 18:11:07
I dissagree on Miller. I think he’s better then Helly when he was moved. He did win a vezina on a horrid team and his numbers were among the top consistently again on a weak team also he had 2 Olympic medals at the time of the deal. He fell off a cliff after but at the time he was a top 5 goalie during the peak of goaltending in the 21st century.

11 Jul 2023 19:06:22
Well said Memarcus and Jet.

Chevy has shown himself to be a shrewd trader, so I expect him to do something worthwhile or nothing at all. He certainly exceeded expectations with the Dubois trade considering he was moving a distressed asset. Full respect?.

11 Jul 2023 23:03:56
I'm waiting for the deangelo to Carolina trade to go down before I bookmark anything by you vb, with all do respect.

12 Jul 2023 10:25:58
Sounds like nj is out. Im torn on hellybuck, hes top few goalies in the league now but a free agent at 31 and gonna want 8 mil and too many years. Only makes sense if he can win them 1 cup this year and hope he will sign for 5 years or less. I definitely can see gm's reluctance.

12 Jul 2023 13:10:05
SHOOTS: you bring an interesting perspective man. You're a well thought out cat?.

10 Jul 2023 17:53:28
Toronto Trades
Samsonov (RFA)
MMurray
Liljegren
NRobertson (IR)

Winnipeg Trades
Hellebuyck*

*The Jets retain 50% of Hellebuyck's expiring contract.


Thoughts ?

10 Jul 2023 18:57:28
Soooooo…WPG would trade an elite G (AND PAY HALF HIS SALARY) for:

- an unsigned G who may not sign

- a horrible G who is no longer a credible NHL G…BUT… (this is the best part), the leafs DO NOT retain a dime of the contract?. (Let that one sink in)

- a D who is a 5-6 at best on a below-average team

- a bust of a prospect drafted in 2019 who is currently injured, undersized, and who has played 31 NHL games in 4 seasons, registering seven NHL points?

Pinball, this is a garbage trade by any measure. This is beyond just a Homer Trade. It’s mental. It is untethered to reality.

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10 Jul 2023 19:44:25
I like the Samsonov idea - only if there was some sort of "Sign and Trade". drop all other players and include Liljegren. When dealing away Helly, Winnipeg will need another goalie to remain competitive, . as Brossoit is not a Bonafide starting goalie.


It would then look like:

To Toronto: Hellebuyck

To Winnipeg: Samsonov (sign and trade) and Liljegren.

10 Jul 2023 22:22:09
Chickenfoot summed it up Pinball. There isn't a single piece there that has any value to Winnipeg.

10 Jul 2023 22:26:51
FLYER: Samsonov + Lilly seems a little light for a top-tier G like Helly.

I consider Jet to be the authourity on all things WPG, so we’ll see what he says, but this seems generous to the leafs.

10 Jul 2023 23:44:39
Goalies don’t usually get that much in trades but with that being said NJ and Buffalo beat those offers.

11 Jul 2023 00:13:21
The Jets are looking to trade Helly and Scheifele but they won't take on foolish contracts or bottom of the barrel players just to make a trade.
This trade also expects the Jets to have the honor of paying 50% of Helly salary and cap hit so the Leafs can continue to skirt the cap.
Its not a very fair trade.
Chickenfoot said it well, this isn't a trade the Jets would ever consider.

11 Jul 2023 04:49:51
Thank you Memarcus and Jet for reminding me that there are plenty of hockey people on here and only a few morons.

03 Jul 2023 16:28:32
Hellebuyck in Winnipeg will have to be moved, and Chevy knows this. Waiting until the trade deadline is a huge gamble....so trade him now, at least the season can start fresh with assets in place.


To New Jersey: Hellebuyck, Heinola, Kuhlman, 2nd rounder

To Winnipeg: Vanecek, Mercer, Bratt, 5th rounder


No money retained, no sign and trade required

03 Jul 2023 17:55:09
There is probably no chance that Jersey trades Mercer or Bratt just days after extending him.

03 Jul 2023 20:56:42
Massive overpay

03 Jul 2023 23:11:35
Lmao yeah that’s a joke drop Mercer and Bratt then it’s closer.

27 Jun 2023 17:13:43
There is no obvious fit for an equitable Dubois "hockey trade", and my guess is that it will require a 3rd team. (It's a lot easier to make a trade for futures, which isn't what WPG is looking for.)

- WPG wants players who can play now, and who are under contract. (The central is wide open this year)

- LA is the reported frontrunner, but the rumoured package of Vilardi (RFA) & Iafallo (UFA after 2 seasons) leaves more questions than answers. (i.e. What if Vilardi won't re-sign, and you have an RFA in your dressing room who doesn't want to be there? It's Dubois all over again.)

- DET has the cap space and need, but no players under contract that help WPG next season. (WPG has plenty of D)

- SEA has too many players with a NTC

Between NYR, DET, LA, BOS & SEA there is plenty of places than can use Dubois, but it will likely require a 3-team trade to find the right fit.

Besides a 3-team trade where WPG brings back a young-ish C who can play now, I'd suggest:

LA: Kempe

WPG: Dubois

. LA probably doesn't want to trade Kempe, but he lacks trade protection, and is close enough in age to Dubois.

. WPG probably prefers a C in return, but Kempe is signed for 3 more seasons at 5.5M, has size, and puts up good numbers.

. Makes more sense for WPG to get guys under contract if they want pieces that can "play now" rather than Vilardi who is an RFA now.

27 Jun 2023 18:29:37
I think WPG is going to start to tear it down. I thought I read that Scheifele and Hellebuyck were not going to resign and are UFA after this season. Get something in return for them and start your build now.

27 Jun 2023 20:08:47
Rumored trade is Iafallo, Kupari and Vilardi for a signed PLD.

27 Jun 2023 22:00:18
I think WPG & LA each made a great trade. Hopefully WPG can sign Vilardi without any trouble. ?.

27 Jun 2023 23:22:47
Dang, I missed a good day of trade ideas!