Calgary Flames Rumours

23 Jul 2024 18:02:16
NAS - Glass, Schenn, Kemmell, 2026 1st, 2025 2nd

CGY - Kadri (1M retained)

24 Jul 2024 11:49:44
- NAS declines

- they have used their cap space effectively to add, but without sacrificing draft picks. Zero chance they use all that draft capital on Kadri.

24 Jul 2024 17:21:39
They have two of each of those picks so they’d still be picking in those rounds. I think maybe it’s a little heavy, drop the 2nd?
I think Nashville adding Stamkos, Marchessault, having Josi, O’Reilly, puts there window the next 3 ish years. Kadri fits the timeline and he’d fill a big hole for them.

25 Jul 2024 16:25:23
Hey Ebs, I think there's a few things to consider with a deal like this for Kadri:

- while still a productive player, with 29G / 75 points, while playing ALL games last year, he's 33 with 7M/ season x 4 more years. That's a lot of money for a team to take on for a player who'll be 34 when the season starts. It's a risk that will be taken into account when valuing a player for a trade.

- Kadri holds a NMC with a 13 team no trade list. (That said, I'm sure most players would see NSH in a positive light. )

- While Trotz made the most of his cap space, his July 1st News Conference heavily emphasized they didn't trade any futures to acquire these players. While he has extra picks, I don't suspect he'd consider trading any UNLESS their season warrants it. That said, I suspect he will keep all his picks and prospects to restock their system.

- If Kadri has another great season, I think a contender would consider Kadri for a 1st and a 2nd plus a prospect. His contract is far from unmovable, but it would likely require contracts going back to CGY and/ or a 3rd team to be involved. I don't see that kind of deal happening before the deadline though unless a contender has a 2C go down and can add him through LTIR.

22 Jul 2024 15:36:43
Calgary Trades
Wolf (RFA)

Nashville Trades
Glass
Lankinen

Preds looking for some Cap relief and The Flames with a ton capitalize on this proposal.
I believe you will see similar trades to this the rest of the off season of teams against the Cap ceiling trading good players for less to teams with a lot of Cap.


Thoughts ?

22 Jul 2024 16:33:30
I don't see why Calgary would be in a hurry to deal Wolf at all. He's there guy going forward and there's really no reason to deal him.

22 Jul 2024 19:04:01
Lankinen is a UFA so my mistake putting him in a trade proposal, I will change it up and Trade Glass to Calgary for a 3rd Round Pick.

Thoughts?

22 Jul 2024 20:36:45
NO NO NO. Wolf isn’t going anywhere. I believe you might be correct about cap relief trades. Wolf at this point is worth more than Glass and lankinen so how is that for cap relief.

22 Jul 2024 22:56:42
Pinball, are you serious or this is just a joke? Wolf isn't going anywhere and definitely not for that return.

24 Jul 2024 11:46:06
- why would either team consider this trade?

- Wolf is going to get meaningful games for CGY this year.

- NAS already has a great goalie prospect in Askarov, so why do they need Wolf?

- you seriously need to consider posting MUCH less. Hockey knowledge clearly isn’t your thing. This is embarrassing.

21 Jul 2024 18:52:40
Calgary: Kadri
2026 3rd.
Colorado: Landeskog barring he agreed.
High prospect
Washington sends a bad contract to Calgary in exchange for a 1st and Colorado ends up getting a young prospect in a three way deal. Just spit balling here. Landeskog is out for the season and likely may not play again.

And Washington is in cap hell. Colorado would get Kadri who is still serviceable and a young prospect to make up for what ever Calgary gets in return.

23 Jul 2024 01:32:28
“ what ever Calgary gets in return. ”
Well that’s the question isn’t it? What is Calgary getting for giving up some leadership and a serviceable player and a cap dump to boot. I hope more than the 1st. And yea, COL doesn’t come out of this with a young prospect. They get the 2nd line center they need and they pay for the dump of Landeskogs LTIR hit.
Very confusing post.

18 Jul 2024 05:50:24
Anybody see anything surrounding nazem kadri and Rutger mcgroarty do the flames have to add in this proposition maybe make it bigger by adding in Anderson?

18 Jul 2024 13:20:12
It wasn't from a credible source. Andersson would make sense for Winnipeg, Kadri doesn't.

I can't see the Jets moving their top prospect for a 34YO.

18 Jul 2024 16:31:12
If the Penguins offered a 35 year old Crosby for McGority the jets would shoot him out of a cannonball to Pittsburgh.

18 Jul 2024 18:11:38
Lol vbbb, so Kadri and Crosby are the same level to you? That's good to know.

18 Jul 2024 18:14:08
And Crosby will be 37.

19 Jul 2024 18:49:17
Everyone acting like this kid is gonna be elite………. hasn’t even played a game yet. Would advise against that as seems to have an me, me attitude.

21 Jul 2024 05:54:26
If calgary sends a Anderson, it would be mcgroaty, 1st, and a prospect. If kadri wants to waive id see him for mcgroaty and a mid prospect.

15 Jul 2024 21:38:56
Another option for same trade with leafs and flames

Tor - Minten

Robertson

Jarnkrok

2025 2nd

Calvary - Huberdeau - 50%

15 Jul 2024 22:51:42
Calgary isn’t retaining 5.25 million for 7 years.

15 Jul 2024 21:36:16
Calgary is in rebuild mode and might as well try and off load some assets for picks and prospects.

Tor Minten

Topi Nemela

Jankrok/kampf - cap
Going back

2025 second

Calgary Huberdeau - 50%
Retained

16 Jul 2024 17:02:11
I dont think this work for either team.

06 Jul 2024 00:01:13
Parayko, Neighbours & conditional 1st for Marner.

Kulak to Flames for a late pick & mid prospect.

06 Jul 2024 03:13:20
No from flames. Let a kid play
To much for marner 2 high quality muckers and a first for a fringe player. I would say nope from a St. Louis perspective.

06 Jul 2024 21:43:48
I actually like the St. Louis one. Parayko would be a perfect get and neighbours looks like he’s going to be a stud.

03 Jul 2024 23:59:16
Montreal trades with jets 2 scenarios
1:
Montreal sends
Harris, Barron, beck , Dvorak , Anderson
To Winnipeg for
Ehlers and McGroarty
2:
Mtl sends Harris or Barron, Anderson and Calgary/Florida 1st round (top 10 protected)
To Winnipeg for McGroarty

04 Jul 2024 03:09:50
You're not going to be able to dump Anderson and Dvorak without paying to do so and it won't be to Winnipeg.

Puck Pedia's dump calculator puts dumping Anderson at the 13 OA pick and Dvorak at 35 OA. So, keep adding you don't have enough to dump either.

04 Jul 2024 13:03:42
not sure i am sold on a guy who is already wanting out of a place he got drafted (Lindros relation? ) . plus the second trade is an overpay.

04 Jul 2024 16:41:05
The Jets have enough bottom pairing d-men and 4/ 5th line forwards of their own. The Jets would want less poor offered quantity of players and would want one top level player for Ehlers and McG.

04 Jul 2024 17:35:43
MTL declines as well.

06 Jul 2024 19:43:58
This trade in particular looks more like a MTL salary dump. With Dvorak and Anderson included.
Maybe do a Barron & Beck for McGoarty.
But I don’t See MTL doing any of this.
McGoarty’s style would look good in Habs top six tho.

03 Jul 2024 09:16:08
Flames need a defensemen, Avalanche need cap space and some cheap depth.


Calgary Flames :
- Brayden Pachal (775K @ 1 RFA)
- Kevin Rooney (1.3M @ 1 UFA)

Colorado Avalanche :
- Samuel Girard (5M @ 3 UFA)
- 2025 2nd Round Pick (NYR)


J Drouin - N MacKinnon - M Rantanen
G Landeskog - C Mittelstadt - V Nichushkin
M Wood - R Colton - N Kovalenko
P Kelly - K Rooney - L O’Connor

D Toews - C Makar
C De Haan - J Manson
E Brannstrom - B Pachal


A Kuzmenko - N Kadri - Y Sharangovich
J Huberdeau - C Zary - A Mantha
B Coleman - M Pospisil - M Coronato
J Pelletier - M Backlund - R Lomberg

M Weegar - R Andersson
K Bahl - S Girard
J Bean - D Miromanov

04 Jul 2024 16:25:59
Colorado is in cap hell going into Rantanen's contract year so I won't be surprised if they explore a deal to clear cap space like this.

They really need to have the conversation with Landy about his playing future, especially if he gets injured again this year. Great player and leader, but can't seem to escape the injury big.

20 Jun 2024 21:48:57
Buf 11 oa to Calgary
Cal Coleman and 28 oa to Buffalo

23 Jun 2024 16:57:43
After reaserching 10th overall and after all time I think to much value is assessed to those draft picks. It is actually very interesting.

19 Jun 2024 19:07:56
Congratulations to both CGY & LA fans.

- CGY: great haul for Markstrom.

- LAK: congrats on dumping PLD and possibly finding a goalie. Regardless if Kuemper works out, you're MUCH better off without PLD.

Nice work CGY & LAK! (Good luck NJ & WSH.you'll need it.)

19 Jun 2024 20:34:26
Chickenfoot
So for The Leafs to get Saros it would probably take Benoit and a 1st Rounder 2026 (Lottery Protected), if you were to compare the Markstrom trade.
Yet didn't you agree it would take Marner plus to get Saros?
What I am trying to get at is again teams don't trade major assets in trades like you keep trying to say, that's about right for Markstrom and and not surprised at all at the price tag, including Calgary eating part of the contract.
Today was a prime example of what I have said all along.

19 Jun 2024 21:01:18
I can't believe that LA gave up on PLD so fast. Although, I don't know why they traded for him in the first place.

19 Jun 2024 23:29:26
- Saros will be in demand.

- Markstrom “can” be good, but no one knows which version of him will show up in Jersey, so the Devils are taking more of a risk.

- Marner, if he waives, would be a 1-year asset. Why give up hard assets for that if you’re Nashville? The Preds are rebuilding.

- Also, with Marners’ almost 11M ticket, he’s a huge cap hit, so you’re trading him at pennies on the dollar. He’s of no use to a contender, and no use to a rebuilding team. Like you said, he probably won’t move, right?

I’m pretty sure you won’t be able to grasp any of this, but hockey informed hockey fans will.

19 Jun 2024 23:30:31
Pinball: Saros (29 years old) isn't Markstrom (34 years old) and Benoit (25 years old) isn't Bahl (23 years old) .

And everyone here can agree Conroy still got the worse end of that trade.

But go off on your "I was right because I said I was right" tantrum.

20 Jun 2024 01:07:02
Just curious Pinball, do you consider Markstrom and Saros to be the same calibre goalie?

20 Jun 2024 01:17:31
To say Marner has no value to a contender is dumber than anything pinball has ever said. Look at the UFA market for an example contenders overpay for stupid contracts all the time that are far worse than Marner. Also IF the leafs aren’t willing to retain after they pay his bonus the actual cash value of the contract is low meaning the team will only pay him a fraction of his cap hit. Not 100% sure but I think it’s like 3mil, so 3rd party retention to a team that needs to reach the floor like San Jose for an example wouldn’t cost all that much if that’s needed to facilitate a trade.

20 Jun 2024 10:48:03
“To say Marner has no value to a contender is dumber than anything pinball has ever said. “

Wow.

- why would a contender want a whiney player like Marner? Because of his record of outstanding achievement in the playoffs? Because he’s such a great teammate?

- Marner has nothing that contenders are looking for, and his salary precludes him from most contenders.

Stay classy VB. Looking forward to your next insulting and head-scratching post.

20 Jun 2024 13:04:35
Marner has value to a contender at the deadline, but if he gets dealt at the deadline it will be a devastatingly low return for the Leafs.

He's a good player with 50P in 57 playoff games. Not great when you look at what he makes and the level he plays at during the regular season, but not bad either. His recent playoff performance hurt his value for sure.

I doubt he gets dealt. Likely finishes the year and heads to FA. 2025 free agency class has the potential to be scary good. I know I would rather enter that free agency with north of $20mill in cap space then bring back Marner at North of $10mill a year.

20 Jun 2024 23:35:04
Before Mathew Tkachuk was moved to the panthers he was despite being “playoff style player” was awful offensively for a player of his caliber and on top that he took stupid penalties that lost his team 2 or 3 games in the playoffs. Look at what a change of scenery did for him. I’m not sure if you’re trolling but you sound foolish. Respectfully. There isn’t even a comparable to players who consistently produce 90-100 point paces because they aren’t traded.

You rambled for years that the leafs were going to trade Mathews then once he resigned you went to Nylander now it’s Marner. Not one of your predictions have ever been accurate. I’d say you’re up there with Pinball for the worst takes on this site.

16 Jun 2024 03:45:13
Calgary Flames :
- Rasmus Andersson (4.5M @ 2 UFA)
- Andrei Kuzmenko (5.5M @ 1 UFA)

Toronto Maple Leafs :
- William Nylander (11.5M @ 8 UFA)


Leafs save 1.4M, acquire a solid RHD on a great contract and a slow skilled winger. Flames acquire an elite forward which they severely lack.

Nylander, 28
82GP | 40G 58A | 98Pts

Andersson, 27
78GP | 9G 30A | 39Pts

Kuzmenko, 28
72GP | 22G 24A | 46Pts

16 Jun 2024 14:05:07
I like the idea but it wouldn't work for many reasons. Nylander has a full no move clause and seems very happy to be playing in Toronto for the next 8 years.

Calgary already made a long term commitment to Huberdeau which turned out to be a huge mistake. If the Flames are as bad as they were this season WITH Andersson and Kuz, I dont even want to imagine how bad they'd be without those 2 and Nylander instead.

17 Jun 2024 23:00:57
That would be good to be terrible for the Flames. No team wins without top end (top 5) draft picks. Need that skill.

16 Jun 2024 03:38:05
Calgary Flames :
- Yegor Sharangovich

Carolina Hurricanes :
- Martin Necas


Necas, 25 (RFA) - C/RW
77GP | 24G 29A | 53Pts

Sharangovich, 26 (3.1M @ 1 UFA) - C/LW
82GP | 31G 28A | 59Pts

Sharangovich is the more complete player which the Canes tend to love. If you look at their lineup, Sharangovich is exactly the type of player they usually go for. I think Sharangovich’s stats are a little inflated but he can still be a 50+ point player especially on a solid team like the Canes. Necas is more offensive and if he was utilized more he’d easily put up 60+ points. Both are very similar players but Necas is better offensively while Sharangovich is better defensively. Necas is a speedy winger (okay centermen) and Sharangovich is a pk specialist with a wicked shot.

16 Jun 2024 19:12:38
I like the base idea. I'd think Calgary would add, and that's where it would fall apart.

17 Jun 2024 18:09:32
Calgary prob needs to add a pick here. Most likely a 2nd and both teams would want to work out extensions as part of the deal.

13 Jun 2024 22:57:56
Calgary Trades
Markstrom
28th Overall Pick 2024
62nd Overall Pick 2024

Ottawa Trades
Korpisalo
7th Overall Pick 2024
136th Overall Pick 2024


Thoughts ?

13 Jun 2024 21:45:31
Toronto: Rasmus Anderson
Calgary: 1st Round Pick 2024, 5th Round Pick 2024, Fraser Minten, Timothey Liljegren

11 Jun 2024 23:39:15
Habs Trade

Habs trade Reinbacher, 26th and Anderson

Calgary trades Huberdeau and 9th

Habs draft Lindstrom 5th and Sennecke 9th.

12 Jun 2024 00:13:58
This could be the worst trade I’ve ever seen on this site and that says a lot. No ones taking Huberdeau with 9th overall attached to him for free.

12 Jun 2024 00:35:17
I’m gonna say no from flames.

12 Jun 2024 00:35:57
Maybe switch 9 for 28.

12 Jun 2024 16:10:16
Take out Reinbacher.

12 Jun 2024 17:49:38
Huberdeau and 9 for Anderson and 26. That is a brutal thought. Get bent and hang up phone. Anderson lucky to be third line 20 points. How about a rebuttal trade………. Huberdeau and 28 for Reinbacher and 5.

12 Jun 2024 20:26:10
sennecke is a weird pick.

13 Jun 2024 00:26:31
Can’t tell if Nashan is trolling or he actually think Huberdeau holds value lol.

13 Jun 2024 14:12:34
Little bit of trolling. Tired of lobsided trades is all.

14 Jun 2024 01:51:27
Nathan. Hardly lopsided. You get the 5th overall pick, reinbacher was a 5th overall last year. If anything it is lopsided towards MTL.

14 Jun 2024 15:09:23
You referring to my rebuttal trade? If so that is my point.

15 Jun 2024 21:28:49
Fair. After I added Reinbacher I wasn't sure. Take out reinbacher and replace with Barron.

11 Jun 2024 14:20:21
Carolina: Calgary 5th Round Pick 2024
Chicago: Kotkaniemi

Carolina: Washington 2nd Round Pick 2024
Utah: Orlov

Resign Skjei, Chatfeild, Jarvis, Guentzel

Make the Marner trade I posted
Still have enough to sign some depth forwards and D.

11 Jun 2024 13:20:13
Something I think we might see on the draft floor on June 28th is the Calgary Flames drafting back to back in the 1st round.

With their 9th overall pick the Calgary Flames select Berkly Catton from the Spokane Chiefs.

And then... we have a trade to announce.

The New Jersey Devils trade their 10th overall pick to the Calgary Flames in exchange for Jacob Markstrom and the 62nd overall pick.

To New Jersey: Jacob Markstrom, pick #62 (2nd round)

To Calgary: Pick #10

Calgary uses this drama to announce that with the 10th overall pick, they select Tij Iginla from the Kelowna Rockets.

Calgary walks away from day 1 of the draft with 2 top 10 picks and the next generations Iginla to play for the Flames.

New Jersey walks away from day 1 of the draft with their starting goalie solidified and have a 2nd round pick to use on day 2(they currently have no 2nd round pick this year.)

11 Jun 2024 14:49:59
Done deal for both teams.

11 Jun 2024 21:00:41
I’m not sold on Markstrom returning the 10th overall pick. If a goalie is moved for 10th overall I see it being Saros/ Askarov or Sorokin. They are more comparable to Schnider due to age. Markstrom is not exactly young anymore.

09 Jun 2024 09:51:55
Calgary Flames :
- Andrew Mangiapane (5.80 @ 1 UFA)

Chicago Blackhawks :
- 2024 50th Overall Selection (TBL)

10 Jun 2024 09:05:56
Why? Small overpaid winger. There's fa's will be better values. Maybe Ottawa 3rd(72nd) and that's good value to Calgary cause not many teams paying to take that salary. Hes just not worth that.

09 Jun 2024 09:51:45
Calgary Flames :
- Jacob Markstrom (3M @ 2 UFA)
- 2024 28th Overall Selection (VAN)
- 2024 62nd Overall Selection (DAL)

New Jersey Devils :
- 2024 10th Overall Selection (NJD)


(Flames retain 50% of Markstrom’s Salary)

09 Jun 2024 21:03:24
Using something of a comparable, Cory Schneider was traded straight up for 9OA, not sure Calgary would be adding nearly what you suggest, consider Flames are retaining g.

09 Jun 2024 22:38:30
Cory Schnider was what? Something like 22 years old coming off of an elite cup run. Schnider had hype and hadn’t reached his potential. Markstrom is in his 30s and isn’t comparable at all.

The best comparable is Ben Bishop when traded from Tampa to LA.

10 Jun 2024 20:46:27
Realistic trade.

11 Jun 2024 12:24:15
Schneider was 26 making $4mill. For a team like NJ who is a goalie away from being back in the playoffs I'd say it's a good deal. Markstrom has shown to be a good goalie and with the goalie market being pretty slim NJ may be willing to part with the #10 pick.