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06 May 2021 18:07:27
The 2021-22 Oilers

EDM
2021 3rd round pick (MTL)

BUF
Khaira
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EDM
2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
2021 5th round pick (OTT)

DET
Turris
Jones
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EXPANSION DRAFT;
Seattle picks James Neal.
Then Oilers also send SEA the 2022 1st round pick and Samorukov.
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Buy-out;
Koskinen

Sign;
Hamilton - 5yrs @ $8M
Oleksiak - 3yrs @ $3.5M
Danault - 3yrs @ $5M
Glendening - 2yrs @ $1M
Driedger - 3yrs @ $3M
Goodrow - 2yrs @ $1.5M

Re-Sign;
RNH - 5yrs @ $6M
Yamamoto - 3yrs @ $3M
Smith - 2yrs @ $1.5M
Shore - 2yrs @ $900K
Chiasson - 2yrs @ $900K
Haas - 2yrs @ $900K

Lines;

Draisaitl - McDavid - Yamamoto
RNH - Danault - Puljujärvi
Goodrow - McLeod - Kassian
Shore - Glendening - Archibald

Nurse - Hamilton
Oleksiak - Bear
Lagesson - Bouchard

Driedger
Smith

Scratched Players;
Haas
Chiasson
K. Russell

* Oilers would still have $4.5M in Cap Space. So that would be enough if Klefbom returns.

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06 May 2021 20:10:36
Probably going to cost upwards of 10 million to get Hamilton outside of the powerhouse hurricanes to come to Edmonton. Probably the grossest city in the NHL ( currently living there ) . The Oilers just flat out suck outside of McDavid and Drais.

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06 May 2021 23:27:12
To the Detroit trade, we’ll pass on that one. Rather keep our draft picks and chances are we’ll keep Glenndenning in free agency.

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07 May 2021 12:58:40
@nylander I’m a flames fan and it pains me to say this but give edmonton atleast 2 years and they’ll be a powerhouse. Holloway, Bouchard, Broberg, Benson, Lavoie. going to be an awesome team.

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07 May 2021 16:46:57
Holloway looks like a Hyman, Broberg looks like Esa Lindell, Bouchard looks to me like he won’t be great maybe a Number 4 which isn’t bad. . I see absolutely zero reason to believe benson will break out as a 25 year old. Lavoie could break out but he hasn’t been outstanding.

I’d bet 10 grand McDavid walks as a UFA at the end of his contract. Why would he stay with the oilers when he could go to a team surrounded by talent. I won’t even say Toronto but let’s use Ottawa for an example, close to his hometown, Will probably get atleast one of Bernard, Lambert and Writght. Assuming they get a new owner their team will be in a great position with tons of cap space and a emerging team with tons of talent. McDavid could put them over the top.

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06 May 2021 13:32:35
To Tampa Bay:
Johnny Gaudreau (25% retained)

To Calgary:
Brayden Point
...............
To Buffalo:
Sean Monahan

To Calgary:
Sam Reinhart
..............
To Detroit:
2021 second round pick, Tyler Parsons

To Calgary:
Robbi Fabbri
.......
To Nashville:
2021 fourth round pick, Oliver Kylington

To Calgary:
Calle Jarnkrok
.............

New team:

Mangiapane-Point-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Reinhart
Dube-Fabbri-Jarnkrok
Lucic-Ruzicka-Phillips


Trades take place after expansion of course

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06 May 2021 15:47:11
I’m a huge flames fan and I’ve proposed the Point for Gaudreau in the past. But I’m going to say that’s most likely a huge no from TB. The other trades aren’t bad though but I think Jarnkrok fetches way more. Jarnkrok is also cousins with Elias Lindholm so it would be really cool.

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06 May 2021 16:40:27
Tampa laughs like that is a terrible deal and so does Buffalo why would a rebuilding team want anything to do with Monahan.

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06 May 2021 17:00:50
@Nylander Monahan isn’t that old and Buffalo is rubbish so why not take a chance of someone new?

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06 May 2021 17:22:51
Ugh maybe idk keep the younger player who produces more. If they trade him it should be for picks and prospects. Think Zary, Pelletier and 2nd 2021 for Rienhart.

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06 May 2021 18:24:34
Zary, Pelletier and 2nd > Reinhart imo. I’m not super high on Zary but Pelletier is a stud.

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06 May 2021 22:02:07
Can't see Tampa going for that, though as a Flames fan I'd be happy with it.

Monahan for Reinhart. I'd like to see Reinhart in Calgary, not sure I'd trade Monahan for him though. Gaudreau though, no problem, get it done!

Fabbri. I'd rather just resign Derek Ryan 1-3 years for 1.5-2 mil per year.

Jarnkrok is ok but he's a UFA. We don't need to trade for him if we want him.

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06 May 2021 23:28:24
Value wise on the Fabbri deal is not bad, probably going to keep him.

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05 May 2021 20:36:24
Expansion Draft - Oilers

Deal is made that the Kraken pick Neal and then buy him out.

For that the Oilers send the 2022 1st round pick and Khaira/Turris to Seattle.

Then the Oilers sign Neal back at $900K

*Neal is still a solid player, but not @ $5M, and he fits very well with the Oilers.

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05 May 2021 21:16:06
Can’t do that. That glitch was patched after the Orprik to Colorado deal.

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05 May 2021 16:57:00
2 Off-season targets to help the Oilers on D

#1
Hamilton 5 yrs @ $8M

(Hamilton puts up the points like Barrie but he is much bigger and a better defender)

Right Defense;
Hamilton
Bear
Bouchard

#2
Oleksiak 3yrs @ $3.5M

(Only is Klefbom is done. Adding Oleksiak gives them a solid BIG LD to slot onto the 2nd pairing.)

Left Defense;
Nurse
Oleksiak
Lagesson / Russell

* Both Hamilton and Oleksiak add size to the D which the Oilers need !!!

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05 May 2021 18:01:09
Hamilton will resign in Carolina.

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06 May 2021 22:03:49
If for some reason Hamilton doesn't resign with Carolina he'll have plenty of offers, most of which will be better than that.

Better money, better teams, better locations.

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05 May 2021 00:00:49
side deal in expansion draft

to SEA
1st
5th

to MIN
3rd
pick Carson Soucy instead of Matt Dumba.

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04 May 2021 20:40:08
If leafs fail in playoffs

Tor:
Comtois
Manson

Ana:
Nylander


Tor:
Schneider
2nd

Nyr:
Rielly (extension in place)

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04 May 2021 21:14:23
If? :-)

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04 May 2021 21:43:09
Reilly can get more with an extension in place, I’d keep Nylander over that package honestly. Could probably get a better Dman for Nylander.

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05 May 2021 00:59:30
Nylander + kerfoot for rakell Manson and comtios.

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05 May 2021 01:21:22
A 2nd for rielly? Are you kidding me? When’s the last dman as good as Rielly was traded? Erik Karlsson?

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05 May 2021 01:32:32
Lol I was thinking of Corey Schnider lmao he’s on the Islanders. Leafs can still get more tho. The 1st trade would be alright if Manson was 50% retained but I would not take the deal without that. I also see no need for Comtouis he’s a good player and the leafs just don’t need him with Mathews, Tavares and Robertson as goal scorers. I’d rather Sam Steel.

Counter-

Toronto: William Nylander

Anaheim: Sam Steel and Josh Manson 50% retained

Toronto: Vitali Kravstov and Brayden Schnider

Rangers: Rielly

Hyman-Mathews-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Nylander
Mhykev-Steel-Kravstov
Engravil-Spazza-Simmonds

Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Manson
Dermott-Brodie

Campbell
Mystery goalie

Gives the leafs plenty of cap space. Possibly resign Foligno or pickup Schwartz? Maybe both.

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05 May 2021 04:31:48
I doubt Anaheim trades their best player for nylander to be honest.

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05 May 2021 12:28:49
I like those trade Nylander.

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05 May 2021 18:02:48
Habby nobody proposed a deal for Lindholm/ Gibson what are you talking about?

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05 May 2021 22:51:39
Ok best forward then.

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06 May 2021 23:22:10
Since Toronto still has Dubas who won't trade Nylander, who does Toronto actually give up in that anahiem deal?

Also how does every player involved on both sides of that trade end up on Leafs lineup? 😆

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07 May 2021 16:40:49
At least @Nylander got one thing right. Brodie on the 3rd pairing.

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02 May 2021 09:35:36
Calgary:Monahan

Mtl:Toffoli,2rd 2021

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02 May 2021 12:27:38
No from Montreal. Monahan is a floater, Toffoli can actually score goals.

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02 May 2021 16:55:07
Make it Gaudreau instead of Monahan.

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02 May 2021 17:50:28
Adding to that.

If the Flames were to trade Monahan they'd need to get a center in return. Backlund can go back to centering the 2nd line but they'd need another center too, preferably a young one with potential to take over as 2C in a few years.

On the Canadians that'd be Kotkaniemi. Danault is a decent 3C but he's never going to be a 2C and he's a UFA this summer anyhow. Whichever team is willing to pay him the most likely winds up with him next year.

The Flames would probably consider Toffoli + Kotkaniemi for Monahan but the Habs have such high hopes for him they'd almost certainly balk at trading him.

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02 May 2021 19:13:21
Kotekneimi was drafted 3rd overall 2 years ago. The habs aren’t trading him for anyone on the flames outside of Tkachuk and MAYBE Lindholm.

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03 May 2021 00:17:32
I think I said this on the last post, but trading an emerging player who has great chemistry with your young players (specifically Suzuki who has looked amazing) is exactly how you lose your job as a GM. Toffoli will 100% be a Hab next year no matter how tempting it may be to sell high.

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03 May 2021 17:01:15
@Websjac Who said anything about Suzuki?

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04 May 2021 02:19:59
MoxNix, Suzuki has had a career year playing on a line with Toffoli. I’m saying Toffoli has made Suzuki a better player.

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04 May 2021 15:48:48
I got it shortly after typing that. I have to say they did look good together on that goal last night.

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04 May 2021 16:30:41
Can't read too much into it but according to Twitter Habs practice this morning had these lines:

Anderson – Danault – Caufield
Toffoli – Suzuki – Armia
Frolik – Staal – Perry
Kotkaniemi – Evans — Lehkonen

Danault centering the first line, Suzuki the second and Kotkaniemi playing wing on the fourth line.

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04 May 2021 18:11:26
MoxNix.
Id say the 4th line you have listed is actually the 3rd., but who knows.
I haven't been impressed with Staal this year, but maybe In the playoffs he will be better, he doesn't have the speed and skill anymore to keep up IMO. Perry might be slow, but he is still crafty with the puck, and his net front presence is very valuable.
And I was really liking Evans with Caufield.
Hopefully when some of the injured players come back, they keep Toffoli, Suzuki and Armia together. Armia has looked really good with those 2 .

Not sure why KK would be demoted, I thought he was playing a good physical game .

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04 May 2021 19:54:18
These are the lines that I see listed.

Anderson - Danault - Caufield
Toffoli - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Evans
Frolik - Staal - Perry

Edmundson - Petry
Kulak - Chiarot
Romanov - Merrill
Gustafsson

Allen
Primeau
Lindgren.

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04 May 2021 21:22:22
@Thunder_Turkey I saw that too in one place, but most places are listing the lineup I posted.

I'd guess they tried both lineups at different times during the practice. Like I said in the first place we can't read too much into it yet.

@sosahabs regarding which is 3rd/ 4th line I was thinking the same thing. I just cut and pasted what I found on Twitter, TSN and a couple other placese.

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01 May 2021 16:39:01
Calgary trades:
Mikeal Backlund
2nd round pick

Montreal trades:
Tyler Toffoli

Both teams would be trading a player in a position of strength for a player to shore up the team where it's weakest.

Montreal's biggest problem is inexperience at center. Their centers aren't strong defensively and lose a lot of faceoffs too. Backlund gives them an experienced two way center who's very good defensively and strong on faceoffs.

Calgary's biggest problem is lack of top 6 scoring right shot RW. Toffoli provides that. Josh Anderson would work too.

Calgary adds a second because Backlund is older. The money is close enough with Toffoli making a bit less than Backlund and Anderson making a bit more.

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01 May 2021 17:54:04
Absolutely no from Habs
I don't expect Toffoli to score at this pace next season, however, I see 25 to 30 . he's on a really good contract. i'd rather see Poehling get another chance to be a good 2 way Center than trade away Toffoli.

Also, Anderson won't be available either. Players like him don't really come around much anymore.
The only way either of those guys get moved, is in some sort of a package to bring in a true difference maker. like an Eichel or something on those lines. ( which i don't see happening)

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01 May 2021 18:26:20
Montreal doesn’t need another 2nd/ 3rd line center they have 3 of those already. they definitely are not going to trade their leading goals and points leader for another one.

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01 May 2021 18:37:49
The hab should make a pitch for Gaudreau or Monahan! They need raw talent, they have less talents then the leafs.

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01 May 2021 19:12:50
I like that idea Barrie. Gaudreau to Habs during the offseason makes perfect sense to me for both teams. I think somewhere around Poehling, a 1st and a future 2nd gets it done.

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01 May 2021 19:15:26
As for this trade, it’s not even close. Since when do you trade your best player (at least who’s playing like it) for a role player. Montreal is going to be in win-now mode next year.

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01 May 2021 20:12:31
I think Barrie is Montreal’s finnest he was very familiar with Barrie in the fantasy league and I think he decided to make this a burner account to troll on I’d bet money on it.

Also nice job completely destroying the Habs in this trade. Toffoli has been great and they already have a better 2 way centre in Danault. The Canadians laugh.

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01 May 2021 20:35:45
“Less talents than the leafs” from an oilers fan, lol. Have you ever looked at your own profile Barrie? You’re obsessed with the leafs, even when the conversation is not about them. Remind me please what your previous username was.

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01 May 2021 20:46:03
@sosahabs24

Ordinarily I'd agree with most of the responses here and your's especially. However this trade makes sense for a lot of reasons. Both teams would be trading from a position of strength to shore up their biggest weakness.


Calgary needs a right shot RW. Montreal with Gallagher, Anderson and Toffoli has an enviable surplus at RW Any of the 3 players would be in the top 6 on most teams and on the first line on many teams (including Calgary) .

Montreal has a couple very young inexperienced centers on the top two lines who aren't very good defensively and lose a lot of faceoffs. Calgary is pretty strong at center with Lindholm, Monahan and Backlund. They could really use a good two way center like Backlund who's strong defensively, very good on faceoffs and could cover those deficiencies for 2-3 years while the young guys gain experience.

I chose Toffoli because I really don't see Montreal moving Gallagher, their spark plug and best player for several years now. Considering they traded more than expected to get Anderson and then signed him to fairly big long term contract *before signing Toffoli to a short term value contract, it's obvious they valued Anderson quite a bit more than Toffoli (I think they still do now) .

Others mentioned Gaudreau or Monahan.

If it was up to me I'd trade Gaudreau straight up for any of Montreal's top 3 right wingers but I don't think Treliving would. I don't see Montreal being very interested in Gaudreau anyhow, especially not with him being a UFA after next year.

Monahan I'd keep unless I'm getting a good center back. If the center coming back is better I'd add, if Monahan is the better center, I'd want the other team to add (preferably a right shot RW) .

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01 May 2021 20:53:38
I was thinking Barrie is FairTrade4All Nylander, but you might be right. Barrie and Balsam are the two biggest trolls on this site.

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02 May 2021 05:59:52
Moxnix. I see your point, however if Montreal was going to trade one of those guys to improve the center position, I don't see Backlund being that guy they would want. he is in the wrong side of 30, I think Habby said it best, that Habs don't need another 2/ 3 line center. I personally see Backlund as a 3rd at this stage in his career.

I just don't see trading either Toffoli or Anderson to Calgary for Backlund as an improvement for Montreal . I see it as a step backwards. Sorry buddy. I got to disagree with ya in this one.

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02 May 2021 09:07:56
I agree that Montreal needs a center but not Backlund. We need production. Someone who is a lock for 50-60+ point minimum.

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02 May 2021 12:27:56
Huge no from Montreal

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02 May 2021 16:16:43
MoxNix have you never watched the Canadians?

Nick Suzuki will be 1C next year

Jesperi Kotekneimi will be 2C he needs time to develop and imo next year will be a break out for him.

Philip Danault ( if resigned ) is a far better shutdown centre then Backlunf as 3C

Backlund would be a huge overkill at 4C especially when they have a young defensively competent 4C in Pohling.

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02 May 2021 17:11:34
@Nylander Many times, have you ever watched the Flames?

Backlund is a solid 45-50 points every year (over a full year) playing as a shutdown center. He's a proven 2nd line center. This year with 27 points playing on the 3rd line he has more points than every center on the Canadians except Suzuki who has 6 more points playing on the first line.

Suziki may be a true 1C eventually but he isn't there yet. Kotkaniemi may be a true 2C eventually but he isn't there yet either.

Philip Danault is all right as 3C but he's not better than Backlund.

Poehling can't even make the Canadians in spite of how weak they are at center. He's older than both Suziki and Kotkaniemi too.

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02 May 2021 19:25:58
Okay so even if Backlund is a slight upgrade on Danault which is certainly debatable but I’m sure habs fans will disagree ( I’m almost certain Danault has received selke votes last year) . Backlands not playing 1st line C over Suzuki, he’s not taking 2nd line minutes from a 21 year old player being groomed to be a 1c. Instead of giving there top goal scorer away for a 3C when they already have a top 5 3C in the game they can just resign Danault for free. I’m teaching you this cool thing called logic and you’re welcome for that.

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